Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 18:23:27 UTC No. 16441471

>>16441423
>BTC-1
Wasn't that a couple of years ago?

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 18:25:11 UTC No. 16441473

Massive nothingburger. That’s why only one agency is paying attention and even they hav’t released any information. The community widely dismissed the signal years ago. This is being pushed by a filmmaker, not a scientist. Stop falling for scams.

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 18:48:07 UTC No. 16441495

>>16441423
see >>16441473

If the signal had any chance of being legitimate, it would be written off entirely as nonsense and memoryholed out of existence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHGb02%2B14a

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 19:06:46 UTC No. 16441523

>>16441423
>nypost
>thehill
>dailymail

>>>/x/

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 20:45:51 UTC No. 16441672

>>16441423
>from alpha centauri
interesting

we can guess any civilisation we detect is older than us, because they're overrepresented at any given time
we also know any civilisation in the galaxy could put a probe around every star after a few million years
it's also cheaper to relay weak signals in short hops than to transmit strong signals over long distances
so it would not be surprising to receive a signal from a close star
in a shitty analogy, you expect a call from China to reach you from your nearest cell tower

i remember a lot of people dismissing the signal the first time because it was so close, but it actually makes it more interesting
the instant widespread dismissal was suspicious in and of itself

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 21:46:31 UTC No. 16441747

>>16441423
>dailymail
please
don't
ever
again

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 00:24:08 UTC No. 16441948

>>16441423
k…keep me posted

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 00:24:46 UTC No. 16441949

>>16441423
Two more weeks chang

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 00:46:30 UTC No. 16441973

If it turns out to be real this might be even bigger than you expect... One of the potential first contact criteria for the aliens that are already here to show themselves might be that we discover aliens ourselves first. Purely speculation but entirely possible.

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 04:09:36 UTC No. 16442146

>>16441495
iirc it was initially leaked by researchers, which would have forced breakthrough listen to announce it
it was dismissed almost immediately the first time
all the fucking reporting at the time repeated it was probably not aliens and probably interference

the argument was that the chance was too low that intelligent life would emerge in both our system and the closest system and not elsewhere
if you assume the civilisation contacting you has a network of signal relay nodes through the galaxy, then the closest system is a schelling point
now that we know it was not interference, it is very interesting

also as with anything at 1420 MHz it will not be e.g. a spy satellite, since it is an internationally protected and surveilled band

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 04:26:02 UTC No. 16442157

>>16441973
sounds messy - maybe they are waiting for a reply? sending the signal back where it came from is equivalent to "we detected your signal and we want to contact you". simply waiting for a detection, and not a reply, is a lot more effort on their part, while waiting for a reply or bounce could be automated.

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 10:11:26 UTC No. 16442358

the chances of human life existing at all are 1 in 10^40,000. Aliens dont exist. Google that number, chuds.

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:28:13 UTC No. 16442708

>>16442358
uhmmm... do you have a source for those odds? has it been peer reviewed? i don't like that source, do you have another? how many citations does it have?

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:32:14 UTC No. 16442717

>>16441423
>This numerical analysis indicates that blc1 is an intermodulation product produced by a ~2MHz clock oscillator that is mixed with some other zero-drift RFI elsewhere in the band. We also find that power at the blc1-companion lookalike frequencies from Fig. 5 is detected when the four archival signals at 982.002MHz are detected, just like blc1, and is not detected when the archival signals are not present (Supplementary Discussion 1.4).

>This interpretation provides an explanation for the appearance of the signal in a part of the spectrum reserved for aviation and navigation: the source was not intending to transmit in that frequency region, and the signal was instead generated by the interaction of electronics within the transmitter, the receiver or both. In this case, the underlying signals that intermodulate to cause the lookalikes are likely from outside Murriyang’s receiver system. Signals are digitized using three analogue-to-digital cards inside the telescope focus cabin, with further processing done in radio-frequency-tight cabinets in the telescope tower6. As the lookalikes span across all three analogue-to-digital cards, they are unlikely to be spurious signals generated within the receiver’s digital systems.

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 16:40:46 UTC No. 16442731

>>16442717
that is from the 2021 article: https://doi.org/10.1038/s41550-021-01508-8
afaik they ruled out the debunk, and i doubt they would make the same mistake twice

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:08:58 UTC No. 16442773

>>16442731
>afaik
From where? There was the deboonk I posted by the original team, and then nothing until, apparently, now. The only source for this whole story so far is that random youtube documentarian, who doesn't even say that they re-observed the signal.

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:25:22 UTC No. 16443038

>>16442773
for one, the Chinese are in the race with their FAST telescope
if they received a similar signal from the same source, they can rule out interference

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 23:27:04 UTC No. 16443310

>THE DEBOONK HAS BEEN DEBOONKED
When they suddenly start talking about aliens and it's *not* two minutes after something politically damaging just happened to the administration that they want to shove out of the headlines then maybe I'll pay attention.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:40:06 UTC No. 16443367

>>16441473
>my (((government))) would not withhold information !!!! this is a grift!!

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 02:17:01 UTC No. 16443470

>>16441423
It will be debunked, if it hasn't already.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 02:18:34 UTC No. 16443473

>>16443470
the chinks also detected it, so good luck trying to argue it's actually interference

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 02:40:17 UTC No. 16443495

>>16441423
>Literally the nearest star
>Just now being found
Doubt. jpg
I would love to see evidence of a technosignature, but this sure seems like bullshit.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 14:47:06 UTC No. 16444181

>>16441423
There was a program called setiquest like 10 years ago. They were publishing the raw data so people could try to find new ways to detect signals. It seemed they wanted people to test their algos or improve them but the most fun way was just to brute force search using your eyes. No matter what they did the algos would miss interesting signals that your brain would immediately identify. One signal was just 3 faint dots that was spread out so far that no algo would have found it and when you try to make the algo find more signals it ends up finding so much trash that it becomes useless.

Anyway once people started finding interesting signals that the automated system missed they shut the project down without ever letting the visual search happen real time. I really get the feeling they didn't want some schizo to find the signal before them in their own data. They wanted you to write an algo they could run and find the signal themselves and visually looking at the data was not something they wanted to do or even had enough staff to do.

I tried to get the visual search as fast as possible. I got it down to like 15 minutes 10 years ago. 5 for downloading and processing the data into pictures and then 10 minutes for going though the 8000 1000 pixel wide pictures as fast as you can visually that covered the 8mhz of bandwidth they collected. I am sure the data processing could be done a lot quicker now and with someone who actually knows a lot about signal processing. I guess now a days they would add more mhz which would make the visual search take longer but with enough people you could keep up with the telescope real-time and have even overlapping visual search to make sure you didn't miss anything. I made a program to map out the interesting signals over various data sets.

That was a fun project too bad the autisum levels required was off the charts. Once you got it into the visual search part though anyone could participate.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 18:48:29 UTC No. 16444497

>>16443495
Here's just the audio clip
https://x.com/DissidentMedia/status/1847905355688206820

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:56:04 UTC No. 16445083

>>16442146
>the argument was that the chance was too low that intelligent life would emerge in both our system and the closest system and not elsewhere
wouldn't that make it more likely and not less?

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:05:14 UTC No. 16445093

>>16441423
>ufo thread on fucking /sci/
mods?

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 03:00:23 UTC No. 16445221

>>16445083
remember the stars move relative to each other
if they stayed put then yes, panspermia would make it more likely

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 03:11:46 UTC No. 16445228

>>16444497
Supposing it is an artificial signal, what could be its purpose?
A radar signal they're using to map their oort cloud?

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 03:25:01 UTC No. 16445237

>>16445228
it won't be from a civilisation around that star
it will be from a probe put in that system as part of a network by a civilisation anywhere in the galaxy
multiple weak signals over short distances are cheaper than strong signals over long distances
it follows that we should listen to our closest stars for these weak signals
if you're familiar with game theory, the closest star is a focal or schelling point, like 1420 MHz

the obvious thing to do is reply with an identical signal
but replying is existentially dangerous, so we should behead all METI niggers before they doom us all

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 03:30:54 UTC No. 16445241

>>16445237
Okay, so it's a repeater...
So why is it making a chirp like that?

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 03:41:03 UTC No. 16445249

>>16445241
>so why is it making a chirp like that?
they forgot to replace the batteries? kek

my guess is it periodically pings our system, waiting for an identical reply
if we send a reply, it will call home that there's intelligent life here
then it will either send us actual messages, or go silent while it waits for a piece of rock to hit earth at relativistic speeds

don't reply

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 03:46:58 UTC No. 16445257

>>16445249
If they're that advanced, they can already hear us. It's not like we're being quiet.

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 03:54:42 UTC No. 16445266

>>16445257
that's nonsense pushed by METI niggers, but i don't blame you for believing it
truth is very few of our signals have a chance of being detected - you can probably count them on one hand
the arecibo message won't arrive for another 25,000 years
radio leakage from earth would be lucky to be detectable past jupiter

the cat is not out of the bag - the loudest niggers are METI niggers

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 03:57:24 UTC No. 16445267

>>16445266
Terrestrial signals are definitely visible on alpha centari.
Even if your local 4adio station isn't, our military radar is.

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:02:10 UTC No. 16445275

>>16445267
radar is probably the only unintentional thing that could be detected
have we blasted alpha centauri yet? it's in the southern hemisphere - we have no business blasting it specifically

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:05:27 UTC No. 16445279

>>16445275
Sure, no one sets out to hit that point on the sky, but ide be surprised if no military signal ever swept that spot just looking at the local sky.

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:11:08 UTC No. 16445283

>>16445279
with absolutely no data i'm going to assume a broad sweep is not going to be focused enough to be detectable
we absolutely must not reply to the ping

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:15:41 UTC No. 16445288

>>16445283
I mean, first of all, a signals strength doesn't have anything to do with it being swept or not.
Secondly, if they're there, why wouldn't they be here too?
Id wager that they already know we're here.

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:22:51 UTC No. 16445299

>>16445288
well alpha centauri hasn't always been nearby, so a probe around alpha centauri doesn't imply a probe around us - we're from different parts of the galaxy
the anthropic principle also applies: if they knew we were here and wanted to destroy us, we wouldn't be here to ask the question - they either aren't here or don't want to destroy us
in addition, most systems cannot see earth transit, and thus wouldn't know earth had life

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:26:39 UTC No. 16445307

>>16445299
Sure, but it has been for enough time for measurements to have been made, or probes sent.

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:32:04 UTC No. 16445311

>>16445307
maybe maybe not - i think we should stay quiet until we can make a more informed judgement
the possible losses are infinite, and the possible gains are finite
we should only reply if there is high expected payoff, and we need to learn our place in the universe to calculate that

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:36:04 UTC No. 16445315

>>16445311
Again, we're not being quiet.
The cat is already out of the bag.
We're not hiding.
If there's anyone to see us, we've been seen.

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:37:24 UTC No. 16445316

>>16445315
then there's no need to reply, anon
if the cat is out of the bag, then all METI niggers should retire immediately

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:42:00 UTC No. 16445321

>>16445316
What does it matter if they stop transmitting or not?
I agree that it's wasteful to send signals to there when what they're trying to signal is already here, but I don't understand your insistence on this point.

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 05:00:44 UTC No. 16445337

>>16445321
also consider that because earth is rotating, any specific radio signal will disappear from view, preventing the build up of a good signal-to-noise ratio
our tv signals are virtually indetectable after ~1 light year
as for radar, the arecibo-to-arecibo distance is ~400 light years, and you would need a bandwidth of 0.01 hertz
both transmitter and receiver would have precisely to track each other for hours

400 light years is a lot more than 4 light years, but they probably have a smaller receiver than arecibo
you would have to point your radar at the system, transmit narrowband at ~0.01 hertz, track alpha centauri for hours, and hope the receiver is also tracking you the whole time
you would then need to repeat the next day, and so on, until the receiver can build up a good signal-to-noise ratio

i highly doubt this has happened

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:10:34 UTC No. 16446280

>>16445249
>aliens are space blacks
shieeet

Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 05:19:32 UTC No. 16446820

If those hypothetical aliens left a probe of some sort around Alpha Centauri, I find it likely they would package it with more than just radio equipment, including stuff like space telescopes. Now, someone correct me if I am wrong, but even if their telescope is only as good as the James Webb telescope we have, that would be enough to do some basic spectrographic analysis of the Earth's atmosphere, finding large amounts of oxygen and a sudden appearance of assorted industrial gases over the last century. And obviously it should be perfectly possible to build space telescopes much, much better than Webb, than could do even more detailed analysis. So staying quiet probably won't keep us hidden.

Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 06:36:11 UTC No. 16446856

>>16441672
>we can guess
>we also know
Oof.

Instead, assume we are the first planet to reach this level and everything else in the universe also has the same hard walls of understanding physics as we have.
:^)

Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 06:43:33 UTC No. 16446864

>>16445337
You have, zero fucking idea how radio works
inb4
>i'm ackshually a licensed ham faggot
Don't cheat the test this time.

Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 07:01:23 UTC No. 16446873

>>16446820

Imagine a civilization that wants to make contact, but doesn't want to reveal their true location.

So they set some beacons out in remote and uninhabited systems, indicating only "something's here", but no other information. To find out more we have to go visit the beacon.

So in other words, they're fishing. It's bait.

Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 15:26:16 UTC No. 16447276

>>16441473
>nothingburger
the psychology of inflation, food prices, and how it relates to inbred southern vernacular english

Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 23:07:45 UTC No. 16447970

>>16442146
it says it's ~982 MHz, bro

Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 23:32:37 UTC No. 16447994

>>16441473
This.
Alpha Centauri is about 4.2 light years away or 25 trillion miles. It has two confirmed planets: Proxima b, an Earth-sized planet in the habitable zone discovered in 2016, and Proxima d, a candidate sub-Earth which orbits very closely to the star. Even if there was an alien civilization living there, traversing such unimaginable giant distances would be as impossible for them as it is to us. It would take light, the fastest thing in the universe, roughly 4.2 years to reach Earth from the alleged source of this signal. In comparison, the fastest craft we've ever made, the Parker Solar Probe, is flying through space at around 192,227 m/s (429,999 mph), or less than 1% the speed of light. It would take the Parker Solar Probe more than 6,600 years to travel the same distance. At a maximum speed of about 17,600 mph it would have taken a Space Shuttle about 165,000 years to reach the same destination. Nothing can travel faster than light, which is capped at around 300,000 kilometres per second (671 million mph). The closer you get to light speed, the more energy you require to increase your speed further, with the energy requirement trending toward infinity as you approach light speed. Thus, nothing with mass can even reach the speed of light. We will maybe visit Mars in the future but that's it. The fighting for dwindling resources here on Earth will make any further exploration of our solar system impossible. Humanity will go extinct on this planet.

Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 23:44:07 UTC No. 16448006

>>16447994
Boomer take.
https://www.nasa.gov/general/swarming-proxima-centauri/

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 13:47:54 UTC No. 16448951

>>16447994
What if I told you that (((UFOs))) were in reality secret government programs run by the US Navy, and that there is a Naval Garrison on Proxima B affectionately known as "Planet Dirt"?

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 15:49:39 UTC No. 16449105

>>16445299
>well alpha centauri hasn't always been nearby
it's been nearby for thousands of years, you have to go back millions for it to be "out of our neighborhood"

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 21:08:44 UTC No. 16449488

>>16448951
This

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 22:53:49 UTC No. 16449647

>>16447994
read about breakthrough starshot. its feasible to get a probe there and information back in a scientists life time. interstellar distances need infrastructure. not engines.

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 22:59:01 UTC No. 16449662

>>16447994
Would this work?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion)

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 03:57:20 UTC No. 16450040

>>16449488
Checked, fellow /k/ tard

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 04:23:24 UTC No. 16450053

>>16449662
Isn't the theoretical maximum on that only like 0.42C?

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 04:00:29 UTC No. 16451673

>>16450053
So what? That's like 12 years for a trip there + the data return