🧵 Argentina’s researchers face catastrophe under Javier Milei
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:05:27 UTC No. 16443347
https://www.chemistryworld.com/news
>The situation facing chemists and other researchers in Argentina is continuing to worsen under the country’s hard right President Javier Milei, who assumed the country’s helm in December. The sharp cuts to higher education, science budgets and professors’ salaries persist, prompting an estimated 1000 academics to take to the streets on 2 October to protest.
>After less than six months in office, Milei had already demoted the country’s science ministry and frozen funding for the National Scientific and Technical Research Council (Conicet), which funds the work of about 12,000 scientists at 300 research institutions. He has also frozen budgets at the country’s public universities that conduct most of the research carried out in the country, at their 2023 levels. And now, less than a year after becoming president, he has drastically reduced funding at public universities, crippling the salaries of professors and staff there.
>‘Salaries have lost about 50% of buying capacity while accumulated inflation is about 144% in one year,’ Alberto Kornblihtt, a molecular biologist and emeritus professor at the University of Buenos Aires, tells Chemistry World. The country’s annual inflation rate has been estimated at nearly 300%.
>In addition, although Argentina’s Congress approved legislation to regulate the budgets of national universities with adjustments that account for inflation for current expenses, as well as salaries, Milei vetoed the measure on the evening of the 2 October demonstrations. On 9 October, Congress upheld Milei’s veto.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:15:44 UTC No. 16443354
Based. If the unis want science they should kick out the commies and useless admins and pay the scientists.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:29:47 UTC No. 16443361
>>16443347
The country’s economy is just undescribably bad, public funded higher education and research should not be a priority spending rn.
>inb4 some retard acts like all the universities in the country were closed overnight
>>16443354
Also this.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:36:50 UTC No. 16443365
One of my colleagues moved back to Santa Fe Argentina and I just saw his LinkedIn doing a public talk on behalf of a Conicet event, he seems fine. This article seems like shitty propaganda
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:48:08 UTC No. 16443372
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:48:26 UTC No. 16443373
>>16443347
GOOD. Parasite motherfuckers using public funds to research the symbolism of Batman's dilated anus. This is not a joke btw.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 00:51:26 UTC No. 16443374
>>16443347
Im from argentina and this jew is destroying my country, he ends up to be a socialist, there are more taxes now than ever
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:51:48 UTC No. 16443440
>>16443374
You were lied to.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 01:54:17 UTC No. 16443443
Oh no such a scientific powerhouse...
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 02:02:32 UTC No. 16443455
>>16443440
Anyone voting for this dangerous idiot almost deserves what they get.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:53:48 UTC No. 16443616
>>16443374
>>16443440
>>16443455
do they have to have a special team of discord troons to post on this specific board? i imagine they cherry pick the leftists with worthless PhDs to post here because a 41%er's low iq is too obvious to be effective in any capacity
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 05:26:18 UTC No. 16443655
>>16443616
>anyone I don't agree with is a discord troon
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 08:21:33 UTC No. 16443788
>>16443347
Milei cancelo todos los grants para estudiar el ano de Batman
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 08:32:00 UTC No. 16443809
>La cuestión del ano y, si quieren, incluso más en criollo los estudios en torno al culo son fundamentales en numerosas universidades del mundo. Sobre todo, y fundamentalmente en materia de género. No es una cuestión para nada menor. Muchos países destinan buena parte de sus presupuestos investigativos, no para estudiar el culo de manera proctológica como lo hacen médicos y médicas, sino para las implicaciones culturales que tiene el culo. Tanto a Facundo como a mí, y a otro montón de personas que nos escuchan, nos han dicho “culo roto” desde nuestra más tierna infancia
>The question of the anus and, if you like, even more so in Creole, studies around the ass are fundamental in many universities around the world. Above all, and fundamentally in terms of gender. It is not a minor issue at all. Many countries allocate a good part of their research budgets, not to study the ass in a proctologic way as doctors do, but to the cultural implications of the ass. Both Facundo and me, and a lot of other people who listen to us, have been called "broken ass" since our earliest childhood
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 08:41:10 UTC No. 16443820
>>16443374
>there are more taxes now than ever
Has he at least manage to deregulate industry to some extent? I know congress blocked or tried to block him. I'm not talking about taxes but regulations.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:25:47 UTC No. 16443899
>>16443347
Kick out the communist propaganda division. Now universities will be properly funded. Commie leeches needs to be rooted out entirely.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:56:13 UTC No. 16443925
Milei didnt promise things would get better for everyone, he said he would cutoff the leeches and that they had to get jobs.
He has fixed inflation and is now building up the USD reserved at the central bank, which is required before swapping them for pesos in circulation. And he also has to pay back all peso debts before finally cancelling the currency.
Next time if you get in debt at least fund something that can bring in sone profit, like a train. Dont get in debt to fund Batman anus studies
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:06:35 UTC No. 16444070
>>16443347
I wish we could have a president like Milei in my country.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:32:42 UTC No. 16444093
>>16443925
>has to pay back all peso debts
Are those mostly internal debts?
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:35:29 UTC No. 16444094
This is funny!
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:37:04 UTC No. 16444096
>>16443809
can't understand
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 13:39:38 UTC No. 16444102
>>16443899
>>16443820
>>16443809
This is your reply
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:55:02 UTC No. 16444990
>>16443616
Milei...please...
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:13:38 UTC No. 16445018
>>16443616
Milei shut down the Argentine IRS so all the bureacrats are concern trolling on webforums now
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:31:29 UTC No. 16446304
>>16443347
Argentina has too many problems with basic services and quality of life to be wasting money funding ""molecular biologists"" and similar horse shit.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 20:35:10 UTC No. 16446309
>>16443347
>NOOOO YOU CANT DEMAND I GET A REAL JOB!!!!!
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Oct 2024 21:42:43 UTC No. 16446397
>>16446304
Yeah that money is going to X pubertarians trolls
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:00:17 UTC No. 16446536
>>16444093
Yes, the peso debts are mostly internal, dollar debts are with foreigners.
Leftists here literally argued that the ballooning peso debt (that they created) did not matter because you can just print the money, which is how we got to triple digit inflation in 2023.
Now, those debts will be honored, but not with money printing as the leftists did, but by a balanced budget which involves not funding studies on Batman's Anus so that the country does not end up like Memezuela. The budget is now balanced and inflation has been going down month after month, amazing what a bit of common sense can do.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 01:11:03 UTC No. 16446605
>>16443347
>prompting an estimated 1000 academics to take to the streets on 2 October to protest.
>some craphole on the other side of the planet elects someone that the glowniggers don't like
>large scale anti government protests that are totally organic and not instigated and planned by US intelligence in any way suddenly pop up
>fast forward to 3 years from now when the populist leader has been overthrown and executed in a coup that the State Department praises as a victory for democracy before installing a puppet in a rigged election who'll eagerly sell out his own countrymen whenever it benefits America
many such cases
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 01:16:50 UTC No. 16446611
>>16446605
Milei is lucky Argentina isn't as key to the international energy market as Ukraine is.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:14:15 UTC No. 16447040
>>16444093
>Are those mostly internal debts?
Sure but so what, he has to pay them before cancelling the currency.
The peso as a currency and all peso debts are liabilities of the argentina central bank. They must be paid back before the peso is eliminated, otherwise whats the point of being owed a currency that doesnt exist? That would be a default.
Milei of course could just print money to pay these debts, but that only increases the total amount of pesos that he has to buy back.
All the printing has to be undone, its not enough to not print more, but the govt has to collect pesos in taxes and do nothing with them, just shred them.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 15:30:41 UTC No. 16447287
>>16443347
https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/arti
>Milei’s spiritual journey continued with his trip to Israel on February 6. They had tried a few times to make the trip earlier, but Milei’s work or the rabbi’s personal challenges prevented them from doing so. With his election victory in November, Milei found an opportunity to meet his personal and public promise – his pledge that the first country he would visit would be Israel.
Reminder to divest in Israel as this is happening all around the world. The CIA are planting pro Israel leaders around the world in order to better control the situation in the middle east.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 16:01:50 UTC No. 16447338
>defending an idiot whose numbers are obviously bad
>and defending the firing of scientists
None of you are real scientists.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 16:22:58 UTC No. 16447376
>>16447338
I am an economist which is a real science.
Nobody likes austerity, it's not something desirable, it's something you do when you fucked up your economy for many years and dug yourself into a hole. So yeah, printing money is not sustainable, having some of the world's highest tax rates is not sustainable, and getting into debt constantly is not sustainable because Argentina does not have the credit score of the USA and nobody wants to lend money to it anymore.
Meaning the only real option was to implement harsh austerity and balance the budget back. Not doing anything would have resulted in hyperinflation like the one that plagued Venezuela, did you know 7 million Venezuelans had to leave their country when the economy collapsed? Argentina was going down the same path with the previous admin.
Milei has some kooky ideas, he is an Austrian economist, which definitively is NOT a serious economic branch but more like a crackpot dogma. But every single economist that is not a commie, from the centre left to the centre right, agrees that Argentina desperately needed to balance its budget and stop printing money. Everything he has done so far is orthodox and not really that controversial. He has allied with a more centrist party and this has brought common sense into his policies.
So yeah I wish I could live in fantasy land where broke countries could just fund all sorts of sociology papers and studies on the pygmy ant and other outlandish blue sky research by printing money just to brag that you are supporting le science, but in the real world that doesn't work. Hopefully now they'll prioritize on researching only what's immediatly useful in terms of health, agriculture, economy and the infraestructure of the country because budgetary resources are not infinite.
If you ever get to experience the Hell that is living with 300% inflation and things increasing in price every day, that may help you understand, how people end up supporting austerity.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 16:27:40 UTC No. 16447384
>>16447040
Cancel the currency and replace it with what?
USD?
If the problem with the country was money printing why would you then fix the problem and then just adopt a new currency that is the king of money printing?
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 16:38:21 UTC No. 16447413
>>16443374
FUCK YOU, javier is God. viva la argentina
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 18:57:41 UTC No. 16447694
>>16443347
and I thought he would be a capitalist. shrug.
>ITT: /pol/ tells the story of the commie scientists.
the chinks will laugh and produce all of our future products.
which story /pol/ will come up then?
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 19:02:45 UTC No. 16447699
>>16443374
kek
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 19:50:20 UTC No. 16447765
>>16447338
>why doesn't everyone else make sacrifices instead of me?
>>16447694
China is incapable of innovation
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 19:50:50 UTC No. 16447766
>>16443347
trump should and WILL do the same
fuck the woke "science"
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 19:51:50 UTC No. 16447767
>>16447376
Milei is Argentine not Austrian
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 21:13:04 UTC No. 16447854
>>16447765
>China is incapable of innovation
you wish. better not look to close where your tech is already coming from now.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 21:36:41 UTC No. 16447883
>>16447854
All China makes are fake LV bags. If China gets uppity, all we have to do is stop buying Chinese garbage and make whatever we need to make here. On the other hand, if we stop buying Chinese garbage, China will literally implode into a pool of trash and suicidal Foxcoon window jumpers.
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 21:53:15 UTC No. 16447895
>>16447767
Not sure if you are trolling but "Austrian economist" refers to a branch or school of economics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austr
Anonymous at Thu, 24 Oct 2024 21:59:50 UTC No. 16447901
argentina status: jew'd
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 00:20:58 UTC No. 16448064
>>16447901
Milei is allah tho
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 00:56:56 UTC No. 16448124
>>16447376
>which definitively is NOT a serious economic branch but more like a crackpot dogma
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 23:40:14 UTC No. 16449717
>>16443374
>there are more taxes now than ever
that's because taxing people under a hyperinflationary environment is utterly pointless you goddamn retard.
he's solving the monetary issue, so taxes will have meaning again.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 00:04:17 UTC No. 16449747
>>16443347
Good. No more anal gaping research.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 00:11:05 UTC No. 16449763
>>16449717
Part of the plan.
1. Taxes so high that can't be paid.
2. The state confiscates private property with the excuse of unpaid taxes.
3. The state sells property for cheap into the hands of his handlers, nobody else is allowed to get them for cheap or get especial tax exceptions.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 05:06:27 UTC No. 16450067
>>16449763
>>16449717
>>16443374
I don't know what you are on about, he has been criticized for lowering certain taxes. Obviously the priority is a balanced budget so the big tax cuts will have to wait, but I haven't heard of any taxes being raised.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 09:33:06 UTC No. 16450236
>>16447376
What makes you say that Austrian economics is a collection of crackpot dogmas? Genuine question.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 17:47:55 UTC No. 16451001
>>16447883
Chinas BYD electric cars are superior to anything produced in the west or Japan to the point western and japanese companies are starting to reverse engineer it
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 18:33:08 UTC No. 16451064
>>16443443
A percentage of the world papers even to bad it was just inflated thanks to the oversized budgets
In chile we wish they gave us the money they have now
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 18:41:18 UTC No. 16451072
>>16443347
Absolutely based. Now we need to get the rest of science defunded.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 21:59:35 UTC No. 16451290
WHY does he have to look like a boy band singer? apart from that and jew worship, he's ok
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 21:59:09 UTC No. 16452855
>>16451290
I wish I had his hair, fucking mirtazipine is making me bald but I need it.
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 17:36:59 UTC No. 16453777
>>16443347
if their research is so valuable why do they need welfare gibes from the government?
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 19:12:24 UTC No. 16453896
Theres one type of science thats needed in any country and that is environmental and pollution research. This doesnt advance science, its just that you need people constantly testing the soil, water, food and industrial chemicals to make sure everything is within safety bounds.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 02:43:53 UTC No. 16455516
>>16452855
what is is about successful world leaders and their epic hair? has science investigated this correlation?
does having top quality hair somehow impart intellectual superiority to the brain beneath the scalp?
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 03:06:55 UTC No. 16455531
>>16455516
Those elected by popular vote are not the most intelligent. Rather they're the best liars and often the best looking. Who in their right mind is going to vote for an ugly balding bird skulled incel? Even if he's got a 160 IQ and fantastic policies that would turn the country around, he's not getting single vote.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 03:07:41 UTC No. 16455532
>>16447766
Hopefully he will cut all funding of climate cultists. Those fuckers deserve to starve to death.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 03:23:40 UTC No. 16455551
>>16443374
Thanks for the gold
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 03:31:17 UTC No. 16455558
>>16455531
ugly balding bird skulled incel can't be intelligent because of their inevitable psychological problems. their thoughts are too dominated with jealousy of good looking guys like Trump and Milei for them to be able to form well thought out intelligent ideas.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 03:51:10 UTC No. 16455572
>>16455558
>promulgates the idea of good looking blond chad supremacy
bodhi at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 04:35:36 UTC No. 16455604
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 03:35:09 UTC No. 16456628
>>16455572
>been dead 80 years
>still causing jews to suffer fits of apoplexy from beyond the grave
epic
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 19:02:22 UTC No. 16457293
>>16456628
im a jew
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:59:00 UTC No. 16458694
>>16443347
>useless leftist eaters will lose their "jobs"
Shame he doesn't hang them.
For a "hard right libertarian" he's very compromising. Aiming for a meager 15% reduction in state spending.
Put that in perspective, the US government's deficit is 28%. So much fuss over so little, just shows what leftists are. Scum.
Leftists should be killed en-masse.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:01:19 UTC No. 16458699
>>16446605
yep. US glownigger agencies should be destroyed.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:43:48 UTC No. 16458755
>>16443347
the economy is more important than development of knowledge, goy!
>>16443443
argentina has 5 nobel prize winners, 3 of them in scientific fields.
>>16443925
>He has fixed inflation
but he left all argentinians in poverty lmao. what's even the point of that?
>is now building up the USD reserved at the central bank
as far as I know, the argentinian central bank changed its policy a while ago and while it's still getting dollars, the dollars being saved come from different sources. they had to sell when the peso went beyond 1500 peso/dollar
take a look at this data. set dates from dec. 10th of 2023 to today and see that reserves grew until april and then kept going down and back up again:
https://www.bcra.gob.ar/Publicacion
>>16446605
milei is a neolib/neocon, retard.
though all argentinian politicians are, they just pretend to be nationalists and "for the people"
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:58:15 UTC No. 16458774
>>16447376
>Nobody likes austerity, it's not something desirable,
You dont speak for everybody. You are simply a statist that thinks state=good. Theres nothing objectively bad about austerity, it just means a reduction of the size of the state.
Any money that isnt spent by the state isnt just magically disappearing, it just gets spent by the private sector. The government doesnt have any money of its own anyway, besides what it can tax, borrow or print, in other words, any money that it can take first from others.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:05:18 UTC No. 16458783
>>16447384
>Cancel the currency and replace it with what?
>USD?
Yes
>>16447384
>and then just adopt a new currency that is the king of money printing?
USA is not the king of money printing. it does print, but not like thirdie central banks do.
>>16447384
>If the problem with the country was
Argentina's real problem is the capital flight, inflation is both a symptom and a contributing cause for that. Switching the currency to USD would remove at least one risk (out of several) of holding capital in Argentina so it will help reduce capital flight.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:07:04 UTC No. 16458788
>>16447765
>China is incapable of innovation
BYD electric cars are being currently reverse engineered by japanese and western companies. It comes to a point where at least in the field of electric cars its China where the innovations happen, and the rest of the world copies.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:09:52 UTC No. 16458792
>>16458755
>but he left all argentinians in poverty lmao. what's even the point of that?
Not every argentinian, just a section of theor society that lived from tax money, this includes both people on gibs but also construction companies that did public works, and many many do-nothing government workers.
That isnt all argentinians, The rest of argentinians are better if that specific part of argentinian society gets fucked.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:14:45 UTC No. 16458796
Reminder: all of the PUTOS that voted for this Jew (the kind of scum that is shitting up Miami as we speak) are cheering at Jewlei slashing the education budget while sending their kids to private schools abroad.
>b-b-b-but Jewlei has inflation under control!
And foreigner that supports this Jew should be forced to live here, then get back to me on inflation being under control.
P. S. The gold he stole is still missing.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:42:50 UTC No. 16458833
>austerity good
Everywhere where it was tried ot turned the place into a shithole.
Greece and the UK, now Argentina kek.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:50:10 UTC No. 16458843
>>16458796
>And foreigner that supports this Jew should be forced to live here, then get back to me on inflation being under control.
What is the point of writing this?
Ok you dont like Milei because he cut some budget and inflation is under control. Seems exactly like what he said he would do.
Cut budgets=Balance budget
Of course anyone on the take is going to complain. But anyone else is now benefiting from not paying the inflation tax.
As for the ministry of education, more like ministry of indoctrination, amirite? Sorry but there wont be any more money printing to fund studies on Batman's anus
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 20:53:57 UTC No. 16458845
>>16458833
>Everywhere where it was tried ot turned the place into a shithole.
Lies.
Austerity only impoverishes sectors of society that are on the take from the government. Those who take more from govt spending than pay in taxes. Typically some large construction companies and also poor people. Medium sized companies and middle class workers in private companies that dont work for the government, benefit from austerity, as they dont have to subsidize the rest of society. These are simply the people that pay more in taxes than they get back in govt programs.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 21:00:50 UTC No. 16458858
>>16458845
You are terrible at defending Milei bro. If what he is doing works, nobody will be impoverished in the long run because the economy will be booming. In the short-run the effect of austerity is bad, yes, but in the long run it's supposed to be good. You are not very good at explaining this, you come off like a sociopath that hates poor people.
t. milei supporter btw
>>16458833
The alternatives are worse, Argentina was heading for hyperinflation. (That results in 80% poor people like Venezuela). Instead now the economy is stabilizing.
This is like gravity, the money you spend has to come from somewhere.
Either it comes from...
1. Debt (Argentina couldn't get further into debt because it's credit rating is abysmal)
2. Printing money (Results in hyperinflation)
3. Taxes (Argentina already has one of the highest tax rates in the world, it couldn't raise them further)
So the only alternative was to balance the budget, which is what that evil word "austerity" means.
All of this is alien to you because rich countries have endless credit, but eventually the well runs out, which is what happened to Greece. You are confusing causes with consequences. Austerity is a consequence of overspending for too many years and maxing out your credit card.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 21:07:18 UTC No. 16458865
>>16458858
>If what he is doing works, nobody will be impoverished in the long run
Correct, in the long run. In the short, sure.>>16458858
>You are not very good at explaining this, you come off like a sociopath that hates poor people.
I dont have to sugar coat anything to "come off" in any way. Im telling things like they are. Im not a bad person for not lying, and it doesnt matter who i may or not hate as it doesnt relate to anything i wrote
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 22:52:13 UTC No. 16458979
>>16458792
>Not every argentinian, just a section of theor society that lived from tax money
Milei doubled gibs as soon as he devalued the currency lmao
on the other hand, I'm sure people who actually have to work to live are all better off now that their currency devalued, prices went up overnight, taxes haven't been removed and wages haven't catched up with inflation.
your central bank had to go out and sell dollars in june and july because shit was going down FAST.
your beloved leader lied to you and you are still defending him like the NPC you are.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 23:21:42 UTC No. 16459009
>>16458979
>prices went up overnight,
Inflation is basically 10 times lower than it was when Milei started his work so you are just lying now
>doubled gibs
another lie
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 00:53:58 UTC No. 16459116
>>16456628
Based
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 01:37:31 UTC No. 16459150
>>16459009
>>prices went up overnight,
>Inflation is basically 10 times lower than it was when Milei started
are you being retarded on purpose? do you know the effects of devaluation?
>>doubled gibs
>another lie
from https://www.argentina.gob.ar/notici
>El mandatario ... destacó que “duplicamos la AUH, duplicamos la Tarjeta Alimentar, aumentamos la asistencia escolar, multiplicamos casi por cinco veces la asistencia para los útiles de los chicos, y dimos financiamiento a la clase media que va a colegios privados”.
not only that, but numbers will keep growing. from:
https://www.clarin.com/politica/ano
>El gasto en planes sociales crecerá 27,7% medido en dólares durante 2025 y alcanzará los US$ 3.857 millones, exactamente US$ 838 millones más de lo que se destinó al área en 2024.
>>16459112
Milei was supposed to be a anarcho-capitalist, right-wing "libertarian" or whatever, but ended up being the most statist one ever. also, he was supposed to dollarize your economy and tear down taxes. what happened???
you guys are fucking clows lmao
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:52:34 UTC No. 16459226
>>16455604
at first i was like
>REEEEE I HAVE A PHD IN ASTONOMY AND I "ONLY" MAKE 70K
but now i'm more like
>REEEEE I HAVE A PHD IN ASTONOMY AND I I'M UNEMPLOYED
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 03:45:24 UTC No. 16459270
>>16459150
>20 years of Kirchnerism
>leave the country on the verge of hyperinflation and with no central bank reserves
>country is bankrupt, record poverty, currency controls, all sorts of retarded economic policies to untangle
>I sleep
>10 months of Milei
>Inflation going down strongly, you no longer have to check the price of the dollar every day, budget surplus was achieved for the first time in decades, Central Bank accumulated more reserves than in the entire Alberto presidency
>REEEE WHY HASN'T HE FIXED EVERY PROBLEM OF THE COUNTRY IN 10 MONTHS
Unironically kill yourself.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 05:00:13 UTC No. 16459305
>>16459270
>>noo you liar!
>gets proven wrong
>>YOU HYPOCRITE! WHY DIDN'T YOU WORRY BEFORE!
you are desperate and mentally unstable lmao.
you seem lost. how did you find this board? have you reied learning a little of logic? when did I say I didn't care before?
Ks could have done exactly the same shit millei is doing and it would have been the same criticisms from me: they are destroying your country (and, in fact, they were, but they were not harming the future of your country as much as the jew lover in power), and your fanatism (I know it's very usual for you argentinians) is blinding you.
again, you goys are CLOWNS. no wonder you have these crises every 20 years or so.
also
>no central bank reserves
how about you stop lying and check that BCRA link? there were some reserves left. they grew like 25% with Milei...which is very little considering all the money he's been trying to save by taking from govt programs, wages and other stuff, and all the taxes he did NOT remove. odd, isn't it? where is all that money going? whatever happened with the US$50k million Macri got from the IMF?
also, have a reminder: carlos kirchner was the one that fixed argentina after the 2001 crisis.
bodhi at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 05:50:10 UTC No. 16459325
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:16:56 UTC No. 16459330
>>16459305
>>>noo you liar!
>>gets proven wrong
>>>YOU HYPOCRITE! WHY DIDN'T YOU WORRY BEFORE!
I'm not the person you were arguing with, schizo.
>how did you find this board? have you reied learning a little of logic?
Logic? You sound completely unhinged.
>when did I say I didn't care before?
When you started ranting about taxes being too high and dollarization when the guy is 10 months into his new term. Nobody expects that to happen now.
>they are destroying your country (and, in fact, they were, but they were not harming the future of your country as much as the jew lover in power), and your fanatism (I know it's very usual for you argentinians) is blinding you.
No, you are being fanatic. Like, unhinged.
>how about you stop lying and check that BCRA link?
Google "net central bank reserves of Argentina". The previous government left a hole of -U$S13 billion. How can Central Bank reserves be negative, you may ask? Well the leftists were such incompetent thieves that they spent all the reserves, and then they begun spending people's savings which private commercial banks are forced to deposit at the Central Bank (what is called the private banking reserve or in Spanish encaje bancario). Spending this money should have been illegal but that never stopped the kirchnerists before.
>which is very little considering all the money he's been trying to save by taking from govt programs, wages and other stuff, and all the taxes he did NOT remove. odd, isn't it?
No, it´s not odd at all. When you are seeking to balance a budget you need to cut spending, then eventually once you get in the positive, start paying back debts, and so on, you may start cutting taxes.
>carlos kirchner was the one that fixed argentina after the 2001 crisis.
You don't even know the name of the president, lmao. He was Nestor Kirchner. You are completely clueless about the country, schizo retard, stop trying to tell people who live here what's going on.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:21:08 UTC No. 16459334
>>16459305
>>>noo you liar!
>>gets proven wrong
>>>YOU HYPOCRITE! WHY DIDN'T YOU WORRY BEFORE!
I'm not the person you were arguing with, schizo.
>how did you find this board? have you reied learning a little of logic?
Logic? You sound completely unhinged.
>when did I say I didn't care before?
When you started ranting about taxes being too high and dollarization when the guy is 10 months into his new term. Nobody expects that to happen now.
>they are destroying your country (and, in fact, they were, but they were not harming the future of your country as much as the jew lover in power), and your fanatism (I know it's very usual for you argentinians) is blinding you.
No, you are being fanatic. Like, unhinged.
>how about you stop lying and check that BCRA link?
Google "net international reserves of Argentina". The previous government left a hole of -U$S13 billion. How can Central Bank reserves be negative, you may ask? Well the leftists were such incompetent thieves that they spent all the reserves, and then they begun spending people's savings which private commercial banks are forced to deposit at the Central Bank (what is called the private banking reserve or in Spanish encaje bancario). Spending this money should have been illegal but that never stopped the kirchnerists before.
>which is very little considering all the money he's been trying to save by taking from govt programs, wages and other stuff, and all the taxes he did NOT remove. odd, isn't it?
No, it´s not odd at all. When you are seeking to balance a budget you need to cut spending, then eventually once you get in the positive, start paying back debts, and so on, you may start cutting taxes.
>carlos kirchner was the one that fixed argentina after the 2001 crisis.
You don't even know the name of the president, lmao. He was Nestor Kirchner. You are completely clueless about the country, schizo retard, stop trying to tell people who live here what's going on.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:28:21 UTC No. 16459342
>>16459305
>they grew like 25% with Milei.
Oh no only 25% of growth Milei has failed
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 04:29:39 UTC No. 16460530
>>16459270
>central bank reserves
they don't have that, central banks have a money printer and thats it
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 04:47:35 UTC No. 16460553
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 04:52:28 UTC No. 16460562
>>16447376
based
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 04:56:23 UTC No. 16460565
>>16458755
>neolib/neocon, retard.
>though all argentinian politicians are
Imagine being this disconnected from reality.
Grim.
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 14:36:22 UTC No. 16460941
>>16443347
Not to sound like an asshole but what exactly have argintinas researchers accomplished?
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 14:38:26 UTC No. 16460945
>>16443354
Ditto for public education. We have way too many paper pushers compared to teachers. Fire them. Pay the teachers more. The bureaucracy is like cancer. It spreads everywhere and costs us tons of money while delivering nothing in value. There's no reason to have that many bureaucrats.
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 14:47:45 UTC No. 16460954
>>16458843
>literacy bad
>math bad
i know 4chan is misantropic. but i didn't know it is so misantropic it wants new generations of boys and men to forget how to read so that they can't use the internet and access this site. lmao.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 18:49:05 UTC No. 16461233
>>16460941
* The Aquarius SAC-D satellite for NASA.
* The first GMO cows that can produce Human milk as a better replacement for milk formula. (Don't know what happened with that project though)
* The CAREM miniaturized nuclear reactor, only a handful of countries managed to produce this tech. It's for nuclear medicine purposes. IIRC it's competing with American and European companies for that export market.
* 3 Nobel Prizes in Medicine and Chemistry.
Most of it is just meme research papers on social sciences and the like, which seems to be what people are chimping about ITT. Hopefully the actual useful stuff will continue.
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 18:58:39 UTC No. 16461248
>>16460941
Off the top of my head:
* The Aquarius SAC-D satellite for NASA. Also a bunch of other satellites for export.
* The first GMO cows that can produce Human milk as a better replacement for milk formula. (Don't know what happened with that project though)
* The CAREM miniaturized nuclear reactor, only a handful of countries managed to produce this tech. It's for nuclear medicine purposes. IIRC it's competing with American and European companies for that export market.
* 3 Nobel Prizes in Medicine and Chemistry. Important breakthroughs in what causes diabetes for example.
* The guy that invented the modern bypass surgery for example.
Much of it is just meme research papers on social sciences and the like, which seems to be what people are chimping about ITT. Hopefully the actual useful stuff will continue.
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 03:17:17 UTC No. 16461726
>>16460530
Pretty much. Floating currencies don't need reserves, the term "reserve banking" and the name "federal reserve" were both coined long before the dollar was floated. When it was first founded the federal reserve had massive amounts of gold and silver held in reserve to back currency with, when they stopped backing the dollar with anything other than empty promises they didn't update their name to reflect their practices.
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 11:13:31 UTC No. 16461963
>>16461726
Nonsense, all Central Banks have reserves. It's important for backing the currency. No currency is backed on a 1:1 ratio anymore but reserves still allow CBs to intervene should something happen. So currencies are still backed to a large extent.
The US has the highest gold reserves in the world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 13:27:29 UTC No. 16462074
>>16461726
non-US central banks literally have dollars as reserves.
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 20:11:14 UTC No. 16462619
>>16447883
Americans still live mentally in 2004 when it comes to china lol
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 20:54:06 UTC No. 16462649
>>16462619
China imports the majority of their food via sea. All it takes is a single blockage and tens of millions of changs starve to death.
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 21:06:30 UTC No. 16462664
>>16461963
they might claim to have reserves, but they also know that they're immune to audits
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 21:59:48 UTC No. 16464130
>>16462664
With a floating currency any 'reserves' that are needed can just be printed on demand. All they need to have in reserve is paper and ink and maybe a generator and some fuel to run the machines.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 22:05:39 UTC No. 16464142
>>16462619
he's right though
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 22:38:52 UTC No. 16464186
>>16461726
>Floating currencies don't need reserves, the term "reserve banking" and the name "federal reserve"
Third world banks have reserves of foreign money, usually USD and other prestige currencies, sometimes gold, they cant print neither gold nor USD and they need that money to pay for imports. Argentina cant pay foreign companies with pesos from their printer.
The FED in particular doesnt have any reserves of its own since its the top apex bank in the world. Other central banks use USD as reserves, while the FED doesnt stack foreign currencies (such as pesos) as its own reserves. The US has the power to be able to pay foreign suppliers with the money it can just print. It just works like that
Theres another reserve in central banks which is pesos that belong to other people (usually commercial banks) that deposit such money at the central bank. Amercian commercial banks also keep money at the FED, such reserves belong to the commercial banks, they are just stored at the central bank but dont belong to the central bank.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 23:04:41 UTC No. 16464215
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