Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 06:43:34 UTC No. 16448500

>>16448491
What could go wrong? What could go
Right?

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 07:09:06 UTC No. 16448529

>he thinks that the magnetic field does the job instead of atmosphere

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 07:11:14 UTC No. 16448531

>>16448529
>he doesn't know

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 07:13:22 UTC No. 16448534

>>16448531
Even red tards know

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskScienceDiscussion/comments/1cnain5/is_it_the_magnetic_field_or_atmosphere_that/

elipo at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 07:16:24 UTC No. 16448537

>>16448491
humans know that going into the tin can will make them receave a million times the amount of radiation they'd usually receive on earth, dipshit, they just don't care since the travel time is short enough to not die

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 07:16:36 UTC No. 16448538

>>16448534
https://science.nasa.gov/science-research/earth-science/earths-magnetosphere-protecting-our-planet-from-harmful-space-energy/

however, of course both do the job
which makes a tincan even more ridiculous

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 07:17:48 UTC No. 16448541

>>16448538
>NASA keeping söyence fiction alive

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:26:11 UTC No. 16448610

>>16448531
Venus has a thicker atmosphere than Earth and has no magnetic field.

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:34:00 UTC No. 16448616

>>16448610
and what life is on venus?

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:36:18 UTC No. 16448618

>>16448616
Earth would be just as lifeless in Venus's orbit.

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 09:08:41 UTC No. 16448642

>>16448618
why did you bring up venus anyway?

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 09:14:36 UTC No. 16448646

>>16448491
why not just jack up a car battery on the tin can and create your own small magnetic protection bubble?

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 10:27:31 UTC No. 16448699

>>16448491
Unironically pure water solves many issues with deep space radiation. The water acts as a total shield for the rest of the ship usually via a dome of water at the bow in direction of travel. You can also build a sphere ala The Borg and have a complete envelope of water around the sphere. The water can also be cleaned of radiation and used for life support and recycled near infinity in a closed loop system. The issue is the weight of radiation shielding be it water or lead. The current ancient chemical rocket technology can not and will not be able to lift enough mass to create proper radiation shields. The issue, AS ALWAYS, is the bottleneck of getting raw materials in massive amounts into orbit for construction. We have everything we need and more to create the best longest lasting space craft.....we just have no way to levitate it off the surface of the Earth to counteract the Gravity Well of 9.8 m/s sucking you back down. Scientists know this and have for a long long time.

>To effectively block gamma radiation, a layer of water would need to be around 13.8 feet thick, as this is considered the necessary thickness to completely block typical gamma rays; this is due to the relatively low density of water

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 11:04:17 UTC No. 16448727

>>16448699
what propulsion would you suggest in a sphere engulfed in water?

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 12:25:58 UTC No. 16448797

>>16448727
In the near vacuum of space any propulsion is adequate for any mass really. It just effects acceleration speed not final total speed. Sphere is one of the most economical space ship shapes. Unlike planes or boats or things that must navigate a fluid medium the space ship just floats frictionless in the inky black. Interstellar propulsion isn't my main thing but Ideally some sort of nuclear powered reactor would run an ion engine of some type maybe paired with a Bussard collector to capture fuel on the go. The other ideal shape is a penis like dong ship with a semi shpere of water at the bow holding water or some other radiation/meteorite shield. Then the rest of the ship is in the shadow of the shield.

That's the other thing I forgot. Water makes an excellent self healing shield against incoming space dust and derbies which is a HUGE issue traveling at fractions of C. 1% of light speed is still very fast and space pebbles could pound through your ship like an atom bomb unless you have a shield. It's not just radiation out there to worry about.

I study deep space and the major issues of life support are often over looked or completely hand waved away. Even a trip to Mars could risk catastrophic ship explosion do to random bullshit floating around in space. The dangers and engineering problems to solve are way more than popular media lets on. Water however solves many of these issues.

But like I said the issue is lifting the mass off the Earth. Water weighs about 9 pounds a gallon. Some of the other major issues with living in space can be solved easily if not for gravity. Living soil could be lifted into orbit to grow crops but again the sheer mass of living soil which itself contains some water is insane. But a thriving garden on a space ship is one of the most efficient ways to recycle the air and clean toxins from it as well as provide food.

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 12:53:44 UTC No. 16448847

>>16448699
>The current ancient chemical rocket technology can not and will not be able to lift enough mass to create proper radiation shields.
i think you are wrong. I guess we'd need to figure out how much water and/or lead would be required to adequately shield a specified spacecraft or parts thereof and differing levels of protection. We could assume the use of Starship and go from there.

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 14:50:49 UTC No. 16449032

>>16448797
>The other ideal shape is a penis like dong ship
the testicles could be filled with water were the crew is immersed

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 15:18:54 UTC No. 16449052

>>16449032
crew is stored in the balls (with the water)

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 15:19:55 UTC No. 16449055

>>16449032
and upon arrival at the new world they spurt forth to impregnate it with new life. and so the cycle continues eternal.

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 16:00:54 UTC No. 16449122

>>16449052
>>16449055
alternatively we could build huge pair of boobs filled with liquid and the crew lactates out

boobs and dong ships, perfect representation for the human race

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 20:14:43 UTC No. 16449447

>>16449122
launch the boobship fleets once the initial eggcolony matures into a babycomplex as part of it's 5 year mission to boldly nourish where no boob has nourished before.

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 21:37:09 UTC No. 16449524

>>16448491
The moon landing is such hokum.
if they did go they used saucer craft instead, that are naturally shielded from external magnetic field effects

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 21:50:23 UTC No. 16449550

>>16449524
>The moon landing is such hokum.
All the reasons to deny it happened are the hokum buddy. Seriously, if you fall for them it's not a good sign for you.

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 00:03:47 UTC No. 16449745

>>16448491
Our artificial gravity generators will generate plenty. 25uT is nothing.

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 05:39:32 UTC No. 16450098

>>16448491
yes

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 06:26:06 UTC No. 16450124

>>16448642
Hes a soviet Scientist, he also doesn't believe in genetics and praxiology

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 19:14:47 UTC No. 16451100

>>16450098
Anti-teslatower trooper reporting

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 14:07:18 UTC No. 16452184

>>16450098
>the virgin seething tesla coil vs the chad faraday cage

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 14:47:53 UTC No. 16452238

>>16448491
massive=/=strong, your average chink neodymium magnet has a stronger field strength than our planet

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 15:05:06 UTC No. 16452252

>>16452184
very chad cage.

Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 17:33:38 UTC No. 16453772

>>16448610
Not for long as due to a lack of a magnetic field venus is constantly loosing it's atmosphere.

Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 17:41:17 UTC No. 16453781

>>16448491
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Matsci chads keep winning.

Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 20:32:23 UTC No. 16453958

>>16453781
And how the FUCK do metamaterials enable radiation shielding?

Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 21:02:31 UTC No. 16454000

>>16448491
if we actually want to explore and survive space we need to evolve anyway. trans humanism is the only way

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 05:08:33 UTC No. 16454470

>>16448491
Build a big tin can from asteroidal material, use the silicate slag as shielding. Simple as.

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 11:27:18 UTC No. 16454661

>>16449122
>boobs and dong ships, perfect representation for the human race
Need ass ships. Shelf asses. We can come out the pussies.

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 12:41:42 UTC No. 16454694

>>16449052
>>16449055
While I applaud your child like enthusiasm I would be remiss if I didn't point out the balls would stick out past the radiation shield of the Dong Ship. We are always going to be traveling in the direction the head points so it catches our micro meteors and radiation. I've made a simple diagram to help. It's more of a dildo ship I suppose if we are splitting hairs. Red is the danger zone of the cock and balls where radiation will likely not be blocked and you'd have no protection.