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Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 12:12:13 UTC No. 16448783
How good are standardized tests for judging someone's ability
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 12:46:44 UTC No. 16448831
How can a test be specifically racist against black people when it was allegedly designed to favor white people only ?
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 13:02:20 UTC No. 16448857
>>16448783
Forbes and Skeptic have great article on why the SAT and standardized tests are awesome, so shut up.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/natali
https://www.skeptic.com/reading_roo
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 13:18:04 UTC No. 16448891
>>16448831
The example I've seen a lot is "chesterfield". Rich white people know that a chesterfield is a type of sofa but black people don't, so they're at a disadvantage when chesterfield is mentioned on the test. No idea if Asians know about chesterfields but I'm going to guess no white person under 60 calls a sofa, a chesterfield. Then they'll say if the test was written in Black American Vernacular, blacks would ace the test and everyone else would fail.
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 13:55:04 UTC No. 16448962
>>16448783
Thank God asians can take the heat now. They definitely earned it.
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 14:29:05 UTC No. 16449013
Dumb niggers will do everything to deny the fact that they're dumb niggers.
>oh no you did a heckin racism sweety
Do it jannies.
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 14:31:23 UTC No. 16449016
>>16449013
It only works because there are people in other groups who enable it.
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 15:15:23 UTC No. 16449048
>>16448857
im love the shermer so bad what do
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 15:19:20 UTC No. 16449053
>>16448891
Stuff like that has not been on tests for decades
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 15:25:44 UTC No. 16449066
i took 3 admission tests and was admitted all 3 times. Once i applied to some college while already enrolled, was admitted and then i changed my mind and decided not to go there. Easy to compete when 95% of the pop goes to horrible public schools
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 15:32:28 UTC No. 16449078
Ask that Berkeley admissions bitch who truly truly believes standards need to be lowered for "fairness"
Someone should ask her if she's willing to get complex medical care from a 2.5GPA doctor who was forced-passed for "fairness" if she couldn't afford a private doctor with a 3.8 and if that's fair to society as a whole.
To that end I've been to berkeley several times for out of state work.
What a rundown shit hole filling up with crime and tent ghettos, my god. A half mile from the city center you have fast food stores that lock their doors at 8PM because of the homeless and the section 8 renters.
Saying "we need to lower standards or it's racist" is suicidal behavior.
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 16:28:16 UTC No. 16449139
>>16448891
So you mean black people don't know the language they're supposed to speak ? Yeah we noticed
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 16:34:01 UTC No. 16449144
>>16448783
>judging someone's ability
Ability for what?
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 16:38:19 UTC No. 16449148
>>16449078
OMGosh, why are UC Berkeley students homeless? Why isn't the university making better civic policies?
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 16:59:16 UTC No. 16449171
>>16449144
complex thought
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 17:07:15 UTC No. 16449185
>>16449171
No, the SAT is not a good predictor of that ability.
/thread
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 17:21:55 UTC No. 16449200
>>16448783
SAT being racist or not is irrelevant, SAT tests the skills that we actually want for university level subject that are useful to others in society. If niggers can't be useful to others in society then why should we allocate any resources to them at all?
They can take up the free visa offer in Kenya and go live there where they can cry about racism all day long.
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 17:24:56 UTC No. 16449205
>>16448891
I have a simpler explanation and it involves the evolutionary fact that a race really good at sports might also be really bad at science.
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 19:11:58 UTC No. 16449365
>>16449053
Hacker News just this week had a front page story about how Louisiana once required literacy tests for voters because most blacks couldn't pass them. It's a site that claims to be about tech, not politics, but it's still running with stories of how racist everything is, using half a century old "evidence" as proof.
raphael at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 19:28:14 UTC No. 16449396
>>16448783
wonderlic
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 19:52:17 UTC No. 16449428
>>16448783
If you can't overcome a bit of "unfairness" you are never gonna make it.
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 20:12:58 UTC No. 16449445
is that the post 1995 SAT?
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 20:43:08 UTC No. 16449474
>>16449148
That doesn't address any part of what I said.
Could you post your nose for me?
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 21:22:22 UTC No. 16449503
>>16449474
You are being mocked, stupid.
Anonynous at Fri, 25 Oct 2024 21:45:53 UTC No. 16449539
>>16449078
>>16449474
16449148
16449503
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H1s @nswers h@ve n0thing t0 d0 w1th wh@t 1s s@1d t0 h1m.
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๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 01:02:24 UTC No. 16449837
>>16448891
Given that negroes were, for centuries, slaves and servants in the homes of all the whites who owned fancy furniture, they had ample time to learn the names of the various types of furniture
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 01:35:34 UTC No. 16449898
>>16448783
It's better than nothing, which is the current standard for admission.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 02:33:43 UTC No. 16449957
>>16448891
That's actually not a chesterfield thoughbeitever.
The arms should be rolled and the same height as the back.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 03:24:43 UTC No. 16450010
>>16448891
>blacks are bombing the 2024 math SAT because the 1964 english SAT mentioned a weird type of couch
ok
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 04:19:27 UTC No. 16450050
>>16450010
Generational memory of trauma.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 05:26:39 UTC No. 16450086
Do you guys actually not understand how this works? Like are you too stupid to read up on why blacks are at a disadvantage when taking standardized tests or are you purposely refusing to learn?
I don't want to have to go through 200 year history lesson but it goes like this.
In the 19th century white Europeans were preferred over other races when coming to the US, in fact white Europeans were given free land in order to settle here allowing them to earn generational wealth. Blacks were largely excluded.
After the civil war white soldiers were granted pensions and access to education that allowed them to earn generational wealth. Blacks were again excluded and Jim Crow and later redlining were built to keep them down. Black neighborhoods were also obliterated to create freeways and public facilities destroying what little generational wealth black Americans were able to build post slavery while they also had little access to good jobs and loans. Because property taxes are still the way we fund our schools, black neighborhoods have poorly funded schools and a lack of access to a good education is the number one indicator of getting into college. If you don't believe me, go ahead and enroll your child into a majority black district. Go ahead. Prove me wrong.
Asian Americans didn't face these challenges, although they had some discrimination, they didn't face Jim Crow and redlining like black Americans and many of them immigrated after these systems were dismantled in the late 1960s and since we prioritized skilled and educated laborers after the 1960s most Asians who immigrated to the US came with college degrees or were here to pursue a higher education. This is absolutely nothing like what black Americans experienced.
Meanwhile Hmong, Laotian, Cambodian and Vietnamese Americans still face discrimination and poverty and lack of access to a good education because these people came to the US not as educated skilled workers, but as refugees.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 05:29:39 UTC No. 16450088
>>16450086
So we're in a cycle of ongoing poverty. Black Americans have poor education because of their poor neighborhoods. Poor education gives them less access to colleges leaving them with less access to good paying jobs leaving their neighborhoods poor, which underfunds their schools.
So the best way we can help black Americans is to give them access to higher education. But whenever we try stupid white people always scream "BUT THAT'S REVERSE RACISM" and nothing gets fixed.
Dumbasses.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 05:31:06 UTC No. 16450091
@16450086
@16450088
this is bait but nice digits on the last one
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 08:14:24 UTC No. 16450182
>>16448831
Trust the soience, goy.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 08:15:26 UTC No. 16450183
>>16449428
True and real. They are doomed.
/thread
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 08:18:41 UTC No. 16450186
>>16448831
By focussing on material that will be taught less effectively in schools in lower income neighborhoods, which is where predominantly black people live.
This is basic Atwater strategy. You can't say "niggers shouldn't go to school", so instead you engineer a system where black people go to worse schools, forcing standardized tests to be used in university admission, which leads to lsss black people getting admitted to university and having less opportunities to move up an economic class.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 08:46:10 UTC No. 16450193
>>16450088
>So the best way we can help black Americans is to give them access to higher education.
Why not just fund their schools in the first place since that's apparently their problem, instead of forcing them through colleges they aren't prepared for?
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 09:20:44 UTC No. 16450222
>>16450193
>Why not just fund their schools in the first place
let's not get ahead of ourselves and give the blacks too much education
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 13:28:49 UTC No. 16450496
>>16450088
Baltimore is majority black, student spending is 22k per year, with abysmal results. Community colleges are already accessible and very cheap. You can learn most things online for free.
The problem is in large part due to culture. Black Americans do not value education very highly. There is the phenomenon of black nerds being harassed for 'acting white'. And of course there is probably a genetic component for lower average intelligence.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 16:38:14 UTC No. 16450908
>>16450496
>Black Americans do not value education very highly
No, America historically does not value educated Black Americans highly, especially as a collective. That's why they originally passed laws to ban them from being literate and excluded them from being able to have patents for roughly the first 100 years when the patent laws first came around.
That's why they had Black Americans go to segregated schools and colleges but invited Chinese nationals to White American schools and colleges back in the 1910's.
Their culture is weak in education because the foundation of it is weak. The foundation is weak because America wasn't properly invested in it until centuries later after they were first brought here. Only in 1954 (which was just 70 years ago) was there a "serious" effort in educating them as a collective.
What we see today is the expected outcome of it. If Black Americans were integrated into American schools in say 1852 (which was 172 years ago) when universal compulsory schooling started to become mandatory in multiple states I would imagine the outcome we see today would be different. Hell the outcome would be different today if they integrated them in the 1910's when they first invited the Chinese over to the schools.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 16:59:42 UTC No. 16450937
>>16448783
The current ones are terrible. All tests should be exclusively written and orated answering formats because they test free recall of information as opposed to recognition.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 17:05:24 UTC No. 16450942
>>16450908
Yes, leftists not loving Clarence Thomas is why black kids in Baltimore can't learn anything despite over a quarter of a million dollars being spent on them during their school years.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 17:13:04 UTC No. 16450952
>>16450908
>noooooo, they are dumb because their great great great grandparents were not included in the education system, despite you know, them being dumb is the norm EVERYWHERE and not just USA
Poor families of every and any race perform better than blacks in about every class category
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 17:20:07 UTC No. 16450969
>>16448783
The SAT is a measure of how much information you retained from highschool, which is a rough indicator of how much you will retain what you learn at college.
It's honestly exceptionally easy. Many of us took basic calculus courses in highschool, but there was none of that on the exam. (If you wanted to show off that knowledge, there are separate subject-specific exams you would take for that, for an additional fee, of course.) Instead, the math on the main exam is primarily 4-function operations and very basic algebra. I don't believe the tests I took even went into quadratics.
The test is at the level that I assumed everyone was at when they entered highschool, not when they left it.
bodhi at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 17:33:31 UTC No. 16450987
>>16450086
"generational wealth" has nothing to do with tests you goddamn retard. This is the niggiest non-sequitur bullshit I have read in ages. Niggers and jews will never answer a direct questions because it is always about deflection. stfu
bodhi at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 17:36:02 UTC No. 16450990
>>16450088
niggers are fuckind stupid, education does not raise IQ, we know because it has been tried for 70 FUCKING YEARS. There are no more bullshit excuses to make, all your leftist niggly bullshit has been debunked CONCLUSIVELY.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 17:48:14 UTC No. 16451003
>>16450942
>>16450952
>ignoring the cultimative effects of 70 years vs 172 years
I thought we were talking about culture here? Is the post I'm responding to not about Black Americans not valuing education?
Performance on a subject is different than valuing a subject. Valuing a subject means to maintain interest in it regardless of final aptitude of it.
For instance Europeans value running and sprinting despite not being the best at it compared to the African runners. Asians value football despite Europeans and Africans being better than them.
Education can still be valued even if you're not the best at it. That's literally the situation with Indians right now for instance. Despite India's national IQ being in the lows 80's they value education so much that they are willing to put as many kids as they can through rigorous schooling, invest longer periods of time in homework and actively put down their money in extracurricular programs. Which is why you see them flooding spelling bees and science fairs. The culmative effect is them now having a strangle hold over most IT sectors despite Indians never producing a person like Von Nuemann, Alan Turing or Bill Gates who pioneered the research and enterprise of it.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 18:02:15 UTC No. 16451025
>>16450990
You're acting like 70 years is a long time. That's barely enough time to reach generational level effects of education.
China for instance has had over 1000 years of academic testing via the imperial exams. That's why they have a culture which yields students who can wipe the floor with anyone collectively in testing.
Also let's keep the conversation honest here. A lot of the "well educated" in the US are immigrants and those immigrants are typically among the top percentile of their native population. We typically don't see or interact the millions of midwits and idiots in their native countries like you do in the US with Black Americans. You're only getting a taste of that right now because of illegal immigration.
Which is why you're seeing even legal immigrants being against them coming. Because now you're getting a peak behind the curtain they keep up.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 18:08:32 UTC No. 16451030
>>16450086
>WAAAH! WAAAH!
Why should black people be allowed into White universities at all? There is absolutely no advantage to it. They should go build their own educational institutions.
Your post is jusr crying, but absolutely not a single hint of justifying why we should be handing even more free wealth and opportunities to a race which offers no value to our society.
>Asians
They shouldn't be allowed into our universities either. If we banned all Asians from our higher education then we would still be the world's leading chip manufacturer instead of Taiwan.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 18:10:12 UTC No. 16451033
>>16450088
Poverty has nothing to do with it. IQ is racial. See African vs. East Asian countries. IQ is genetic and economic prosperity flows from that, not vice versa.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 19:21:43 UTC No. 16451106
>>16451033
>IQ is genetic and economic prosperity flows from that, not vice versa.
***taps sign***
>Nigeria is projected to top Japan in 2075.
>Ethopia is projected to to South Korea in 2075.
Goldman Sacs, a German created global banking power is saying your logic is flawed.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 20:28:38 UTC No. 16451169
>>16451106
>in 50 years those shitholes will be #1
>everyone reading this article will be dead or will have forgotten so who cares
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 20:31:32 UTC No. 16451171
Why is it that simple racism is a just as accurate a way to measure intelligence as overly complicated standardized testing is. Standardized testing is a massive and horrible expensive industry and it doesn't do anything more than measure skin color in the most roundabout, indirect way possible. We could just hire a handful of racists and they could do the same job for billions of dollars less
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 20:36:32 UTC No. 16451178
>>16450088
The best way we can help black Americans is to stop babying them and lowering academic standards because the current ones are too high and it hurts their fee fees.
>bu bu but they're poor checkin minoritinos!!!
And?
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 22:51:07 UTC No. 16451342
>>16448783
IQ tests would unironically be less biased than the sat.
Some things on the sat simply arent taught in all schools.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 22:53:58 UTC No. 16451348
>>16448783
based SATs
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 01:48:22 UTC No. 16451516
>>16448783
If this were true, then why wouldn't anyone make a non racist test by now
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 01:57:48 UTC No. 16451531
>>16450908
If this is true, then you should be able to name another country on Earth where black and white students have similar IQs or test scores. Can you?
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 04:15:10 UTC No. 16451683
>>16450186
Again, if a test is supposed to FAVOR white people, then asians shouldn't be supposed to outperform them. You're a leftist brainlet who struggles with logic
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 04:16:33 UTC No. 16451684
>>16451003
Pathetic sad reddit spacing. GO BACK TO FUCKING REDDIT
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 09:23:53 UTC No. 16451921
>>16451683
What?
Who says it's upoosed to favor white people? The whole point of Atwater's ideas is hurting black people. He doesn't care about Asians, nobody really does.
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 09:53:31 UTC No. 16451930
>>16448783
Maybe it is not the test but the test takers?
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 10:05:35 UTC No. 16451944
>>16451683
Not him but you're missing one critical element here.
These tests are originally based on the Chinese Imperial Exams. Then modified for western purposes.
https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesu
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/ful
https://languagetestingasia.springe
>In the late sixteenth century, the Kฤjว came to the attention of European scholars, primarily through the work of Jesuit missionaries, and in time, it spreads to France, Germany, and the UK (Higgins & Zheng, 2002; Miyazaki, 1976) and later to the USA.
So it actually makes sense Asians outperform Whites. It also makes since the Chinese consistantly top testing lists. Since you're using THEIR own tools and ideas as a base. You're just utilizing a methodology they have worked with for a thousand years.
In this case you're actually the brainlet for either not understanding of the topic at hand or trying to pull a fast one while hoping no one calls your shit out.
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 13:13:19 UTC No. 16452091
>>16451944
You realize that all Asians aren't just Chinese right? Ffs think of the Pajeets.
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 15:38:47 UTC No. 16452294
>>16451003
This ignores the major selection effect with Indians in the West, who are disproportionately upper caste Brahmins with high average IQ.
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 15:43:15 UTC No. 16452303
>>16451944
The Chinese are intelligent though. They've had advanced civilization for thousands of years. The same cannot be said of Africa. They didn't have writing until the Arabs came and spread Islam. The have no great achievements, no great architecture. Behold what they call the "Great Mosque of Djenne".
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 15:47:22 UTC No. 16452310
>>16452303
That was rebuilt by the French btw
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 16:01:07 UTC No. 16452325
>>16452310
They couldn't even rebuild they own shitty mud mosque. Sad!
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 16:36:19 UTC No. 16452377
>>16451106
>Dumbfuck nigger hasn't figured our PER CAPITA yet.
Btw, reddit tourist, the GDP per capita of Nigeria is actually declining. The GDP per capita of most African countries have been declining or stagnant since the 70s.
Having even more low IQ mouths to feed is terrible. That's why Nigeria is a shithole and not a moon landing superpower despite having the same order of population as the US.
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:03:55 UTC No. 16452411
>>16452377
The RELATIVE GDP/capita of SSA countries has been decreasing. Reminder that in the 50s, many of these countries like South Africa and Zimbawe and had higher GDP/capita than China, Korea, Japan, and Spain.
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:40:48 UTC No. 16452451
>>16451106
Insanity.
China and India are filled with Chinese and Indians... no way their economies will surpass USA this century.
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 18:05:58 UTC No. 16452508
>>16452377
Any 'country' with a population less than 10 million is just a large city, or an island.
LA County (a single county in the State of California) has a population of 10 million.
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 18:25:21 UTC No. 16452533
>>16452303
that looks like it was built out of cow dung
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 18:55:03 UTC No. 16452567
>>16452533
>that looks like it was built out of cow dung
The fecal matter of goats may have been used as well.
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 20:06:05 UTC No. 16452675
bodhi at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 20:09:53 UTC No. 16452681
>>16451944
>It also makes since
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 21:37:13 UTC No. 16452820
>>16451944
So you mean people who already had a high IQ (asians and whites) made IQ test ? Makes perfect sense you commie retard. Black would never even have the idea of testing for IQ or even suspect IQ exists in the first place. Go back to watching bbc porn
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 23:14:29 UTC No. 16452928
>>16448783
Maybe, just maybe, it IS the students and not the teachers.
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 23:22:18 UTC No. 16452938
>>16449503
>>16449539
post your fucking nose are you a kike a chink a pajeet or an affirmative action failure
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 23:37:01 UTC No. 16452944
>>16452938
2 days later and you still have nothing.
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 05:52:27 UTC No. 16453237
>>16448783
Tests should be racist to keep blacks out of higher education.
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 11:14:21 UTC No. 16453423
>>16449365
Hacker news:
- Why you should spend 6 months learning this retarded new library
- new racial or climate study that isnโt reproducible
- AI article spam
- One funny but ultimately information less autistic blog post
Over the last 3 months, I think I read two interesting posts there
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 11:24:42 UTC No. 16453427
>>16448783
The universities already won the lawsuit involving that asian american group where it was ruled constitutional to discriminate against asians 400 points vs blacks/latinos
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 13:53:09 UTC No. 16453521
>>16448783
Ok, then show a SINGLE academic/IQ test that Black people perform as well, if not better, than non-Black peoples.
See, there isn't one ;) Not once. Not ever. Never.
There really should be at least one exception to the rule, but they don't even have that. They are well and truly and in every way "unexceptional".
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 13:56:36 UTC No. 16453525
>>16448783
Alright, lets let the Blacks design the "least racist" test they can devise, then let everyone take it and we'll examine those results too.
Of course, this will NEVER actually happen b/c they'll get BTFO even harder b/c to set the bar low enough for "some" Blacks to look good, means it's also so low that ALL other peoples can clear it with ease.
Go ahead, "Blacks". Give us your "Really Black Test" and lets see how we all do.
Then they'll just say Black Tests made by Black People are intentionally racist against Black People making Black Tests for other Black Peoples.
"He dindu nuffin." Cuz he be too fucking dumb. Fr, fr no cap, aiiiiiiiiight!
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 13:58:23 UTC No. 16453527
>>16448783
Notice how the "article" starts with "Opinion", rather than "Fact".
It's tacit admission that the test is fair, but it's this June Bug's "opinion" that it isn't, for "reasons".
You'd like to think they're doing it to be malicious, but they genuinely aren't that smart. The REALLY do think "they" do be out to get "us" wit dat Whypeepo maffs. They REALLY "think" this way.
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 14:11:33 UTC No. 16453541
>>16448783
IQ is 100% genetic. You can't "do" anything to make it higher than your genome will allow, just like your body height. You can certainly lower your max potential IQ via drug use, head trauma, etc...., but there is NO WAY to "improve" it over time. On the contrary, one of the defining traits of IQ is that it is quite consistent over time, so after about 25, or so, you're as "smart" as you're ever going to be. This is also when all great artists and scientists tend to do their best work, as well. After that, age starts to set in and there is always another "genius wunderkind" coming down the pipe (they aren't as rare, or special as you think and almost never "pan out" to true Greatness).
The complete and utter lack of any sort of "achievement" by Black Peoples the World over proves that "They" are simply incapable of rising much above very, very crude Bronze/Iron Age tech, and that's only with constant influx of outside help. Without "le ebil" White Man, Blacks revert back to Infantilism within a generation. All of History proves this, as well. This is the "Whiteman's Burden" to either care for these infants, or let them run free and savage you and your family to death. There is no in between.
Funny how "race" is a "Social Construct" one minute, then an innate, defining, biological feature with ingrained, immutable characteristics the next....How convenient.
Funny how "Whiteness isn't real", until it's time to blame "Whiteness", or beg for money, or seek protection from oppression. "Whiteness" is very "real", when there's someone to blame, but very "not real", when it's time to give credit where credit is due. "Funny", isn't it?
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 14:20:51 UTC No. 16453550
>>16451106
"2 more weeks...." according to Mr. Bugersteinkowicz. LOL!
Ok Schlomo, go take a ride in a "Nigerian Submarine", or an "Ethiopian Fighter Jet". LOL!
Go ahead. I dare ya :)
2075.......so long after we're all dead and can confirm this. Gee, how """convenient""".
How many "Nigerians" are the Goldmans hiring in their Executive ranks? I'm guessing not a lot.
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 14:25:17 UTC No. 16453554
>>16448783
There are over a BILLION "Black" people on the Earth, inside and outside of Africa, as has always been the case. By sheer, dumb statistics, there "should" be millions, Top "1%" of IQ performers at any given time, just like India, China, Europe, etc...but there is literally NOTHING.....EVER. Not in the Past. Not in the Present, and nothing on the horizon for the Future.
"The silence is deafening.", and the only "excuse" is still more excuses.
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 14:32:36 UTC No. 16453565
>>16448783
"Poverty" does not cause stupidity. LOL!
Get that Marxist horseshit out of here. The overwhelming majority of the world is very, very poor and very, very non-violent and somehow able to "get up to speed" in any foreign culture they move to within 1-2 generations, as would be expected. That's why there really are no "issues" with Asians, Beaners, etc...when they move to the West. By the time the grandkids roll around, everyone is as American as apple quesadilla. Not so the Negro. No matter where it goes, it fails, regardless of time, place, or circumstance. It's statistically impossible for this to all simply be a "coincidence", or to "just happen" by means of a perpetual, never-ending persecution campaign by the entire world throughout all of History, which is their ONLY "excuse" for their ineptitude.
One of the defining traits of "intelligence" and "exceptionalism" is to be able to over come adversity by means of rational problem solving. All peoples in History have been "genocided", "enslaved", "tortured", "conquered", "plagued", "despotized", "emperorized" and "nuked" in some form or fashion. Their respective abilities to triumph over these hardships is what proves their intellect above all else. Again, no "Blacks" have ever achieved anything of note on their own, much less "over come" hardships to flourish all the more for it. Never. Not once. Not ever. Never.
"That which does not kill me, only makes me stronger." .........unless you're Black then it just makes you perpetually piss and moan like a bitch.
"Adapt and overcome."
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 14:34:41 UTC No. 16453566
>>16452675
....and DSM-IV is the most corrupt, kooky Leftist, Marxist bullshit bible ever devised by man, so this is the bleeding hearts being as generous as they possibly can be. The reality is far more grim.
No Leftists, there is nothing that can be "done" about this. It's genetic. They could've been born billionaires and they would still be dumb. It's not their "fault", but it also can't be "fixed". It's a feature, not a bug.
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 15:01:19 UTC No. 16453583
>>16448783
These racism narratives are incoherent, if the US was really a racist society there wouldn't be a reason to create all these Scooby Doo villain tier plots to oppress blacks while hiding behind some kind of plausible deniability.
A racist society just says "no niggers allowed" and that's the end of the discussion.
But blacks need this narrative that they are rising up and using power to defeat racism because they want to feel racially superior like they have conquered their oppressors, so even if whites become literally anti-racists it still isn't enough because it doesn't fundamentally satisfy their emotional need.
bodhi at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 21:39:28 UTC No. 16454029
>>16449365
imagine thinking letting people who cat read, vote, is a good thing. This is why the US is such a shit show, we put dysgenics on a pedestal because of jews
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 23:11:09 UTC No. 16454132
>>16450088
>>16450086
Why do rich blacks commit more theft and violent crime than poor whites?
Let me guess, evolution doesn't apply to humans beyond arbitrary physical appearances, right?
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 23:25:38 UTC No. 16454145
>>16453554
Not ONE in the global top 500 largest companies is Black African run.
Not ONE university in the top 100 rankings is Black African run.
Eventually you have to stop blaming 'racist' and see that the cause of Black African failure is ... Black Africans
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 23:47:14 UTC No. 16454164
>>16454029
This is the thing usually meant when talking about those literacy tests. Good luck anon.
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 23:51:41 UTC No. 16454170
>>16454029
Part 2
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 23:58:31 UTC No. 16454182
>>16454164
There is always that ONE GUY!
"Look!, Blacks were discriminated against!!"
Therefore RACISM explains all Black failure
We all know that literacy tests WERE racist and they were used many decades ago in some areas of the USA.
There you got your say... you get 15 (You)s
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 00:03:04 UTC No. 16454190
>>16454182
I see only one you. You owe me 14 more. I'm waiting.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 00:08:34 UTC No. 16454198
>>16454190
The problem is American literacy tests do not explain Black African failure.
You DREAM of world of racism holding down Black people... but that is not this present world.
WAKE UP and face reality. People ARE different and pretending that we are all the same is only hurting those who can not keep up.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 00:11:02 UTC No. 16454201
>>16448783
IQ tests are good for selecting midwits. The outliers that are on both ends of the bell curve will never be accurately measured.
bodhi at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 00:33:15 UTC No. 16454234
>>16454164
>>16454170
bitch I am talking about today, not 1950
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 12:40:00 UTC No. 16454693
>>16452411
>The RELATIVE GDP/capita of SSA countries has been decreasing.
Wrong, the total absolute gdp per capita of most SSA have declined since the 70s, by most measures it was worse in 2000 than it was in 70s. Today in 2024 the average is roughly (depending on study methodologies the average has either declined slightly, increased slightly or remained stagnant), while many individual SSA countries saw an absolute decline.
>Reminder that in the 50s, many of these countries like South Africa and Zimbawe and had higher GDP/capita than China, Korea, Japan, and Spain.
Yes? Back when those countries were mostly white or only whites active in the economy/ruler class.
IQ and racial genetic makeup is by far the best predictor of GDP per capita, far greater than university degrees per capita, warm port access, natural resources etc.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 12:43:18 UTC No. 16454695
>>16453237
Blacks should not have access to our higher education nor testing period.
Why do we keep pouring infinity resources into this black hole which hates us and provides no benefits to us? Idiotic beyond measure.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 12:53:34 UTC No. 16454699
>>16453525
This is what they actually do in South Africa. They dumbed it down so much everyone gets 100% for final year. Then universities couldn't afford to give scholarships all the retarded future dropouts scholarships so they now force everyone to pay a private company to do standardised testing separate from the state exam.
Other universities are even smarter, they just accept like all 10000 or whatever students who applied for engineering then whittle it down ~600 by second semester. They use tuition from the 10k retards to pay for better lab equipment and scholarships for the 600 who actually have the competance graduate.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 12:54:04 UTC No. 16454702
>>16454145
>Not ONE university in the top 100 rankings is Black African run.
Are you kidding? You don't remember Claudine Gay from Harvard? She might not be running it now but she was a year ago.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 12:57:25 UTC No. 16454704
>>16453527
Being an opinion piece is irrelevant if it was put into official print by the media outlet I'm sick of this excuse.
If you wrote an opinion piece espousing how good it would be for the country to gas all the Israeli lobbyists do you think it woild get published? No. So this anti-White shit should also not slide.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 12:59:36 UTC No. 16454705
>>16454702
>Maybe if we take over white insitutions and ruin them it still counts!
It doesn't. Show me an African built university built after the colonialization period that is doing well. Surely there is at least one?
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 13:07:30 UTC No. 16454708
>>16454693
Forgot picrel
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 13:46:17 UTC No. 16454734
>>16454693
We aren't disagreeing. SSA is poor mostly or even entirely because it's full of people who's collective behavior makes it poor, and they do so because of genetics, which notably causes their very low intelligence and very low impulse control.
According to pic rel at least they have improved in GDP/capita since the 2000s.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 14:03:16 UTC No. 16454751
>>16454734
Not going to lie. My AC condenser backed up in my house and I was moving out. I felt my IQ drain away, day-by-day, working in the heat.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 16:47:49 UTC No. 16454902
>>16451930
this is obviously because of redlining in detroit in the 1940s and bonald dumph's racist tweets
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 18:20:50 UTC No. 16455030
>>16448783
Remember a couple of weeks ago when the DoJ sued the Baltimore Police for discriminatory hiring because their test was too hard for some black ladies and they won several million dollars? And the questions on the test were mostly basic arithmetic? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
I am starting to believe the 'Competence Crisis' is real and the coming decades are going to be very funny.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 18:24:54 UTC No. 16455038
>>16452091
>Ffs think of the Pajeets.
I prefer not to.
EBOK at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 18:28:50 UTC No. 16455044
fags
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 18:54:46 UTC No. 16455083
>>16449078
Here in central Europe, we have doctors now who don't speak the local language well. Huge problem especially with the elderly. It's totally fucked up.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 19:02:46 UTC No. 16455089
>>16450086
That's a load of bull. My family were ultra-poor farmers before WW2, then fled the red army when they came raping all the kids in the town. My grandfather witnessed how they raped his little sister, 8 years old back then. They weren't exactly taken in with open arms by their countrymen when they managed to flee, called all sorts of derogatory terms and denied housing etc etc.
Now here I am, got a PhD in physics, wrote a book on my subject and got it published, now working as a CTO for a midsize company. Fuck this HURR DURR THEM WAS TREATED BAD IN THE PAST SO U ARE ALL RACIS N SHIT bullshit cope. They just don't want to become better because of culture. We do have examples of black people being excellent at what they do, and those are simply the ones who got their asses up and worked on becoming productive members of society instead of
>miss me with dat wypipo behavior
argument the majority of them follows.
All this
>math is racist
crap just puts oil into the fire. Fuck off.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 19:08:58 UTC No. 16455098
>>16451106
>just have 20 kids per couple bro
>that'll increase your GDP bro
>that means everybody will be rich bro
You're a consultant, aren't you? McKinsey or Deloitte?
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 19:14:29 UTC No. 16455104
>>16448783
Only for ability getting score of test.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 19:14:40 UTC No. 16455105
>>16453566
>there is nothing that can be "done" about this. It's genetic.
Now you know why race-mixing is promoted so heavily these days.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 19:23:17 UTC No. 16455111
>>16455030
The "competence crisis" doesn't exist though. The real issue is pay, all your "competent" people went into better paying fields.
Same situation that happened with teaching is showing up with policing. If a person is competent enough to be a patent lawyer or surgeon which typically pay them six figures out the gate. Why would they settle for teaching or police work?
Pic related is your salaries for Baltimore. Notice the police officer isn't getting to six figures on average until after a decade of work. You can't demand competentecy then have the lifetime salary track after ten years only be $95k. Patent lawyers after ten years average $180k while surgeons average $300-400k.
The competence crisis is just another code word for """cheap labor""".
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 19:53:54 UTC No. 16455150
>>16455111
Except there are black surgeons.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 20:16:06 UTC No. 16455171
>>16455111
I have a technical job and I can tell you that the kids we get coming in are dogshit and have no work skills. Some do not have basic mechanical or mechanical reasoning skills. This is a job that is relatively high paying (for the area and industry) with a very robust benefits offering.
We are given and are required to take in house classroom training which when I was new it was unheard of for any one to fail. Now failures are common. I don't know what these kids do growing up but it isn't reasoning through problems and applying real world solutions.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 20:17:46 UTC No. 16455172
>>16455111
You miss the point that the justice system decided that it was easier to say math was racist and award them millions of dollars than to tell these women that they are retarded. I do not think a society can function well on such premises.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 20:44:33 UTC No. 16455203
>>16455171
Same in universities btw. The noobs are super dependent and expect everyone else to do the work for them.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 20:48:42 UTC No. 16455209
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 21:00:35 UTC No. 16455229
>>16455209
Americans these days are no longer inwardsly big.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 21:08:28 UTC No. 16455246
>>16455150
And those black surgeons are smarter than the average person in the US. Which is why they desicated their efforts to completing medical school and work serving the hospitals. While the average person in the US goes into thousands of dollars in credit card debt buying fast food from door dash which sends them into the hospitals eventually to rack up tens of thousands in medical debt.
>>16455172
The justice system always pays out regardless of circumstances because they just want cheap labor.
It's cheaper to pay out for "racism" because they don't want to tell the government to spend millions adding hours to the school day so kids are on the street less, learn more and teachers get better compensation.
It's cheaper to pay out for "accidentally" killing some one instead of paying everyone at the police station more money so they can have recruits who are well trained and less trigger happy.
It's cheaper to pay out for "institutionalizing" people in jail instead of telling the private corporations to pay their non-criminals more money so the prison labor subsidization racket can stop.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 21:10:07 UTC No. 16455249
>>16455150 #
And those black surgeons are smarter than the average person in the US. Which is why they dedicated their efforts to completing medical school and work serving the hospitals. While the average person in the US goes into thousands of dollars in credit card debt buying fast food from door dash which sends them into the hospitals eventually to rack up tens of thousands in medical debt.
>>16455172 #
The justice system always pays out regardless of circumstances because they just want cheap labor.
It's cheaper to pay out for "racism" because they don't want to tell the government to spend millions adding hours to the school day so kids are on the street less, learn more and teachers get better compensation.
It's cheaper to pay out for "accidentally" killing some one instead of paying everyone at the police station more money so they can have recruits who are well trained and less trigger happy.
It's cheaper to pay out for "institutionalizing" people in jail instead of telling the private corporations to pay their non-criminals more money so the prison labor subsidization racket can stop.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 21:18:25 UTC No. 16455260
>>16455249
Endless baseless statements.
Sad, many such cases.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 21:34:37 UTC No. 16455285
>>16455260
>baseless
>US has Trillions of dollars in consumer debt
>US falls behind in education to countries like China and South Korea who are known for having extended school hours
>US has less core hours of police training compared to other developed countries
>US has an agriculture commodity exemption for prison labor
These aren't hard things to look up anon.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 21:39:25 UTC No. 16455295
>>16455249
That image tries to convey that there is a correlation between low training hours and high killings. There is no proof given for such a link. Dumb.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 01:11:18 UTC No. 16455452
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 02:09:16 UTC No. 16455480
>>16448783
It's not that my pp is too small, it's because her bagina is too big! .........sure Toby, keep telling yourself that.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 02:13:35 UTC No. 16455485
>>16454145
Yet, there are more Black millionaires and billionaire in the "Racist West" than anywhere else on Earth at any time in History. Once again, the data disproves "The Narrative".
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 02:15:54 UTC No. 16455488
>>16454699
Smart. Use the System against its self. Even the most Leftist schools in the US have come around in their STEM programs and have done away with all the DEI shit. When there's real money and lives on the line all the PC politics go out the window.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 02:19:04 UTC No. 16455492
>>16454704
It's not "Anti-White". It's "Pro-Truth". These "articles" make ALL other peoples rage and seethe at Blacks, especially Asians, who disprove all forms of the "Minority Victim Narrative".
The more the Black reveal themselves for the lying, whining, crybabies that they are, the better.
When dealing with an enemy, "Give them just enough rope to hang themselves", as the old saying goes.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 02:24:21 UTC No. 16455499
>>16455171
Most "Engineering Students" have never held a screwdriver. I'm not kidding. It's beyond insane. You might think they have simply traded "mechanical" skills from the 20th century for cool, hip, "digital" skills in the 21st, but no. They can't even use the Start Menu on a Windows Machine half the time. If it requires more than "tapping" or "swiping", they can't even do shit with computers, except for the natural autists.
The Zoomers are the first generation in History that can't "do" anything and has never "done" anything of note. No art. No theatre. No fashion. No films. No books. No bands. No babies. No nothing. Just slack jaws and blank stares.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 02:28:28 UTC No. 16455501
>>16455150
Yes, and they are EXTREME outliers in the "Black Community", like top (0.1%) that are given preferential treatment EVERY STEP OF THE WAY from the minute they apply to medical school they have virtually guaranteed acceptance, as well as in "elite" residency programs, which are desperate "diversity" hires which simply do no exist. That's the greatest lie of all. There is no "discrimination" against Black surgeons b/c there are so few to begin with. On the contrary, programs compete for their "trophy Negro" that proves their program is "totally not racist". They're basically glorified Lawn Jockeys.
bodhi at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 02:58:33 UTC No. 16455525
>>16455492
>Give them just enough rope to hang themselves
We are just about there, or decade long op is nearing completion. We will destroy the Republican party and build a new america first party
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 06:44:23 UTC No. 16455656
>>16455485
The richest person to ever have lived was a black king in Africa.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 07:54:15 UTC No. 16455676
>>16455656
gaze upon his works ye mighty and despair
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 08:57:00 UTC No. 16455694
>>16455492
>It's not "Anti-White".
It is anti-White, demanding any sort of equity in a White country is explicitly demainding wealth and resources drawn away from White children and given to non-Whites for literally no benefit to Whites.
>It's "Pro-Truth".
It's the truth of anti-White people, yes.
>These "articles" make ALL other peoples rage and seethe at Blacks, especially Asians, who disprove all forms of the "Minority Victim Narrative".
You are wrong to groups all Asians like. What you say is true of old school Asian Americans who are actually well integrated and have some benefit to White people, those are a minority within the modern Asian demographic.
It is not true of the new generation of Indians, Chinese and Arab Asians who seek to use the same narratives to exploit the system and steal wealth from the country.
>The more the Black reveal themselves for the lying, whining, crybabies that they are, the better.
This is cope, they will just keep getting more and more free shit, being spared jail for violent crimes, theft etc. just as planned.
Not even Trump would put a stop to it. Americans need an actual white interest political party if they want to keep their country.
>When dealing with an enemy, "Give them just enough rope to hang themselves", as the old saying goes.
Yes, and that enemy is Moscow, Beijing, Tel Aviv, Tehran and Dubai. Blacks are pawns to foreign agitators who fund all this instability.
The only way to get rid of this weakness created by diversity is mass denaturalization of all non-Whites.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 11:00:39 UTC No. 16455742
>>16455656
>The richest person to ever have lived was a black king in Africa.
His wealth came form slavery and mining... no great buildings, no libraries, no road system, no system of government, nothing of lasting value; all that remains is his memory.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 11:13:27 UTC No. 16455752
>>16455656
Mansu Musa was not "the richest person to have ever lived" there is actually no record of his wealth at all (they kept no records like that in the Mali Empire). This reddit myth comes from the story about how gold he distributed in Egypt caused inflation. Similar to Mali this was post Roman Egypt, meaning there were no extensive records kept, but it is etimated that Egypt's GDP per capita was around 600 usd (1990 value) at the time (based on estimates of agricultural outputs). This in a country of 6-7 million (at best, in reality we should only consider the urban population of ~100k here).
It does not take much money at all to cause inflation in such a small, poor country.
This is like saying Mr. Beast is the richest person on Earth because he built some water wells in SSA and this drastically increased the standard of living or the locals.
You could cause a minimum of 5% inflation by simply distributing 300 milliom in gold in a medieval Egyptian city. This is not a lot of wealth in modern terms.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 12:04:22 UTC No. 16455785
>>16454164
Am I literate?
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 12:41:44 UTC No. 16455797
>>16449185
incorrect
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 13:01:27 UTC No. 16455809
>>16449078
>To that end I've been to berkeley several times for out of state work.
>What a rundown shit hole filling up with crime and tent ghettos,
I lived in Berkeley for 4 years to work at the national lab and this is a sadly accurate description of much of the city. If you go north or up the hills it's much different, but near the center especially it's a shithole.
And now many of the stores on Shattuck are boarded up so it's gotten even worse in just the last couple years: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv8
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 14:24:08 UTC No. 16455840
>>16453525
>https://x.com/Rule3O3/status/17052
>What itโs really like to serve as a tool in the DEI
>(Reformatted / edited by Anon.)
As Iโve admitted before, despite being a confirmed thought criminal with ties to Big Frog, Iโve many times conspired to violate the 1964 Civil Right Act Title VII by intentionally discriminating *in favor of blacks*.
Iโve done this with a clear conscience, for two reasons:
Itโs inevitable anyway, & whether Iโve taken a paycheck or sworn an oath, the duty of serving an organization includes the obligation to proactively protect it against ruinous charges like โinstitutional racismโ. Reconciling morals is the easy part. Whatโs hard is rigging the system hard enough to withstand the enormous statistical headwind of black census share & underperformance, but subtle enough not to be so screamingly obvious even a white guy can land a knockout EEO suit.
Now the best way to do that is by increasing the # of elements & complexity in a selection process. What you want is something thatโd make a rural change of venue jury fall asleep.
โWe use Schmendrick-VanDeMerwe, a 17 point management competency assessment.โ Stuff like that.
What this does is allow you to sneak subjective ratings into something that sounds overall objective.
Because, key point: raters will know what to do WITHOUT BEING TOLD. No explicit conversation is required. Everyone in white collar management today knows who to overrate.
Bearing all that in mind, in 2019 I was asked to help un-stall a DEI program that on first pass had failed to deliver desired results. Catch was we couldnโt totally discard the existing process, but only modify existing features. No problem since I knew just what to do. Legacy system used a mix of test scores, superior ratings, peer ratings & simulated performance.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 14:25:08 UTC No. 16455841
>>16455840
The way to go was: reduce weight on the tests (too g loaded) & peer ratings (too honest) & put that balance into a modified set of simulations.
Fun fact: blacks like role play. They do well at it. Less likely than whites & far less likely than Asians to recoil at the artifice or flunk due to shyness. That plus the role play is scored by senior staff aware of โthe big pictureโ (i.e. quota needs). Need more black finalists? Add a role play exercise.
So far, so good, Iโm an unlikely hero of diversity, equity, & inclusion, right? WRONG. Because what comes after 2019 is 2020, the Year of All Fevers.
And here enters into the story a newly prominent black activist, who knows exactly what (& who) the real problem must be. Spoiler: itโs people like me, cleverly increasing the subjective elements of the process because that is where our implicit biases can reign free. And it follows: the way to thwart our white (and light) supremacy is by INCREASING the weight of test scores and peer ratings. For, after all, these are the objective & egalitarian parts of the process. These are the elements that canโt be gamed by white men with systemic privilege.
So written, so done. The g-loaded test is upped to 35% of total points (the most itโd ever been before was 25%) & the peer ratings are upped to 25%.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 14:26:09 UTC No. 16455846
>>16455841
So now 60% of a candidateโs score is based on how good they are at getting right answers & solving real problems, with only 40% input from manager class people who actually spend their day asking โAre there enough blacks in that picture?โ Naturally I try with every power of persuasion I can summon (which is, take my word for it, rather a lot IRL), but to no avail. The activist - not wrongly, given what you all know - senses me an enemy on sight & feels even more sure in her course knowing that I oppose it. To be fair, I canโt SAY the things I need to say, to be truly convincing. I canโt explain why an objective test is the last thing youโd want. Or why letting conscientious white & Asian grinders anonymously assess your Black hopefuls is almost as bad. I lose the argument. The reform goes through according to her requirements.
The result, born like a deformed babe 9 months later, is the most racially disparate list of promotion eligibles in the history of organizational records.
No black candidate broke the top 25, & only 2 made the top 50. This becomes known to a smaller group of insiders before it must be published. There follows a furious two weeks of meetings. The lawyers insist the list be let stand & point to what would happen in discovery. C-suite is for throwing it out & paying whatever that takes. PR & HR are surprisingly without strong opinions, perhaps because theyโre busy updating their resumes.
The activist goes from giving me dirty looks to never looking at me at all. In cramped conference rooms & late night Zoom she manages to avoid any acknowledgment I exist. Which is fine since at this point in the disaster, I have no solutions. Really itโs not clear why Iโm still involved. Though of course I did add my voice to the admit failure & settle camp. Lost that one too. Lawyers carried the day arguing โbetter to be sued by 5 than 50โ. I point out whites & Asians donโt sue, & especially that they donโt get press conferences, also to no avail.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 14:27:10 UTC No. 16455847
>>16455846
Hereโs what happens next: the list goes out as is, top sheeted with an apology & promise to do better signed by more people than the Declaration of Independenceโฆ but NOT the black activist lady, who puts out a statement of her own that mentions how tired & overworked she is at least 3 times. But interestingly & to her credit, she does not try to fob off blame for her specific mistakes. But of course she doesnโt *own them* either. The organization, no doubt acting on a portion of its lawyers advice most of us werenโt allowed to hear, then went a record breaking 18 months without making any executive promotions. This despite unusually high turnover at all levels, & some very conspicuous vacanciesโฆ But they did roll out a new โpaid as ifโ hand picked temporary apprentice system (justified as part of the covid emergency) with picturesque levels of diversity. Pretty smart actually, & they got away with it. Though only for the reason I stated earlier: whites donโt sue.
At the end of the cooling off period, they announced their new process:
Test = 15% (5 points < my original rec)
Peer ratings = 25% and no longer anonymous
Superior ratings = 25%
Simulation aka role play = 35%
Works like a charm. Frankly they should be sending residuals. But while I wait for those to roll in, I treasure this lesson as the only thing of value I took from the experience: Black people correctly sense that whites are rigging the game when theyโre not looking. They just canโt imagine the truth: that weโre rigging it for them.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 14:46:32 UTC No. 16455861
So the progressive argument is basically
> If a parent-child-grandchild chain gets poor it will stay poor, barring good luck (that is, the high end of sampling variability on individual intelligence or knowing what you want in a career and being persistently determined to get it or knowing how to work smart and hard enough to earn a lot of money, without being discriminated against persistently or falsely imprisoned for a crime due to your superficial features making you seem "dangerous")
> black families mostly got poor when white people treated them as tradeable property for hundreds of years
> in every generation after abolishing slavery, some white people in a position to be able to decide who they sell their expensive house to or to arbitrarily decide who to suspect of crime resent black people for not being their property or for making them feel like maybe they should feel unproud of something, and discriminate against black people.
> people trust the capitalist class system to have enough social mobility that effect #1 is weak and in a few generations there are no more discrimination aftershocks and people after a certain point can be blamed for not having gotten rich yet.
> white people ignore how much discrimination against black people still exists from effect #3
> in poor neighborhoods, governments don't bother investing as heavily in education, which causes poor kids to seem less intelligent because they just were taught less or less well.
polls.io/en/wksmj/vote btw
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 15:08:19 UTC No. 16455873
>>16455797
Wrong, again. The College Board admits itself in their own published studies that the SAT measures access to SAT training materials and perseverance in completing those training materials. This is why it is a great predictor of early undergraduate grades and not later stage college grades, employment, or future income.
You can see it yourself in racial disparities in scores because race is correlated with socioeconomic status and hence access to training material.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 16:06:08 UTC No. 16455946
>>16455840
>Itโs inevitable anyway
This not gonna hold up in court. It's hilarious how many traitors are breaking the law thinking that the current regime will last forever to protect them.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 16:30:52 UTC No. 16455965
>>16450086
>Jim Crow
>Segregation
>Civil war
>Slavery
All this shit only applies to the Unites States. It doesn't apply in other countries where that didn't happen. But blacks still act the same way in those countries.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 16:48:55 UTC No. 16455980
>>16448891
>Then they'll say if the test was written in Black American Vernacular, blacks would ace the test and everyone else would fail.
I accept this challenge.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 17:39:24 UTC No. 16456038
>>16455965
Refugee status, history of colonialism, systemic racism. Every country has its problematic aspects.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 18:08:59 UTC No. 16456060
I really never wanted this >>16455694 to be true, but with increasing age, I realize it just is.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 18:12:01 UTC No. 16456066
>>16455752
I wasn't serious, but I see how my tone conveyed that I was. Apologies and thanks for the explanation.
>>16455694
>literally no benefit to Whites.
The benefit is less crime. They hope. Yes, im not serious here either.
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 18:16:11 UTC No. 16456069
>>16455840
>I throw out any morals for money
ok
bodhi at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 22:26:47 UTC No. 16456342
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 03:29:17 UTC No. 16456620
>>16455847
The problem with any sort of "rigging" is that it only amplifies the disparity in the long run. Look at Med Schools where the White and Asian kids have to be off the fucking charts to even get an interview, much less accepted, but those that do are KILLERS that destroy everyone around them, which only makes the DEI candidates with MCAT and other scores several Standard Deviations below the various "Asians" look even worse when it's time for STEP, Boards, etc...
All "Asians" (Caucasian/East Asian/South Asian(Indian)) are all "bad" and never the "right minority", of course despite meeting the "minority" criteria, including White Men. Now, they're just changing the meaning of "minority" from fewer in number to "lesser in Power".
IQ is like height. It's fixed by genetics and while you can optimize it by living well, you can't really "make it go up" through effort, but you can always "make it go down" directly and relatively.
There is NOTHING a short/low IQ person can "do" to "fix" them self. It's a Fool's Errand, but they can accept it for what it is and make the best of it. Those folks genuinely do well in Life b/c they don't care what others think and they know work will overcome "genius" 90% of the time anyway.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 03:31:15 UTC No. 16456622
>>16455861
"Poor" is the Marxist/Classist buzzword. EVERYTHING is due to "poverty".....except most of the world is waaaaaaay poorer than your average "Black American" and also exponentially less violent.
You can walk safely through most "poor neighborhoods" in the Third World. You cannot walk safely through most "Black neighborhoods" in the First World.
Once again, the data proves their claims false.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 03:34:14 UTC No. 16456627
>>16455873
Wrong. "Test Prep" is scam industry. Of course the SAT is going to say their SAT Prep(tm) materials "work". LOL! You can get all of them for free online, anyway. LOL! Same for the MCAT. There is no evidence that "Test Prep" courses/books make a significant difference.
"Poor", "Poverty", "Socio-economic", etc......all Marxist buzzwords to try to skirt the issue. Virtually all "Poor Whites" do better than even the richest Blacks. IQ is genetic.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 03:59:27 UTC No. 16456638
>>16456622
All the information on how to live frugally through optimization and long term planning is 100% freely available and instantly accessible. You can tell them to their face when they complain to you about always being broke that they would have hundreds of extra dollars a month if they'd just stop ordering delivery food every fucking day and do a single day of meal prep for the week with cheap nutritious foods and they'd stop being so fucking morbidly obese too but it will go in one ear and out the other because education will not fundamentally change what their brain is capable of.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 04:14:03 UTC No. 16456643
>>16448891
>niggers don't know English
>fail English exams
How is this racist? Isn't that the expected outcome of not being proficient at something?
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 04:19:00 UTC No. 16456645
>>16456038
If every country has problematic aspects, why can the white people and asian people always manage to rise above it?
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 04:43:19 UTC No. 16456657
>>16448783
If SATs were truly a racist test then I would score incredibly high on them, because I am the most racist man alive. I can prove it too, ask me anything about any race.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 14:17:03 UTC No. 16456951
>>16456627
>There is no evidence that "Test Prep" courses/books make a significant difference.
Kek. SAT training companies literally guarantee significant increases. You probably think casinos refund losses too.
Had you taken a training course, you would have been able to get into college.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 16:56:08 UTC No. 16457172
>>16448783
Hah, thats retarded.
Claiming that blacks score lower in iq tests because tests are racist is like claiming that black population is overrepresented in jail because cops are racist... oh wait
In reality standardized tests are fairly good at jugdging specific skills in people, no matter race or sex.
>>16448891
no one mentions chesterfield sofa on standardised tests
these are composed in such a way that you should need only basic language and math skills to be able to solve it, if someone can't understand the questions there its not because of some obscure words used but because of lack of these basic language skills. In such case lower score properly asses skillset of such person.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 17:00:09 UTC No. 16457178
>>16455742
ah yes, legendary wakanda the underdog trash city
>>16455785
imagine someone getting a poor score on this test and blaming it on racist tests.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 19:41:13 UTC No. 16457320
>>16450086
But donโt you see? You are admitting it yourself that blacks are stupider. For genetic or systemic or historical reasons, it doesnโt matter, blacks are stupider than whites and Asians. The tests arenโt the issue. They arenโt racist for correctly identifying a racial discrepancy. If you want to fix the system, start by correcting the broken public education system and not by lowering all of the standards so our society is brought down to black standards
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 19:42:43 UTC No. 16457321
>>16457320
>start by correcting the broken public education system and not by lowering all of the standards so our society is brought down to black standards
This can't work because it would only improve the future generations. The current and past generations are already here and are essentially hopeless. Their standards are abysmally, infectiously low.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 03:04:53 UTC No. 16457717
>>16455656
Who ran out of money on the Mecca and crashed the global gold market for decades. Pure moron.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 03:05:32 UTC No. 16457718
>>16455846
>I point out whites & Asians donโt sue, & especially that they donโt get press conferences, also to no avail.
Mf even admits taking advantage of gentiles niceness, Jesus fuck, and these are the good guys
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 03:17:18 UTC No. 16457725
>>16456638
Even if they make an honest effort, they will be graded against their "cohort" of fellow "Black" test takers, rather than all other test takers in that batch. If they didn't to this, there would be effectively ZERO "competitive" Black candidates every year. Almost none out of tens of millions of kids.
They may be 1-2 SD below the mean for all applicants, but if they meet the school's min. req. they already have over a 50% chance of acceptance, while no "poor" Whites or Asians will ever be allowed in with such a score. Again, this really on exacerbates the divide as the Black students are bottom the barrel while all others have had to over perform.
The Indians fuck everything up because they're quite "Brown", even "Black" and come from an "oppressed, foreign minority", but crank out lots of great doctors due to sheer numbers and the fact that medicine is a deeply ancient and well-regarded practice in India. They've basically been breeding them "Guptas" for thousands of years. There is no similar tradition in the "Black Cultures" of the world.
Their own Newspeak is failing. "Minority" doesn't work anymore(see: Asian Women). "Poverty" doesn't work anymore(see: Asian Women). "Historically Oppressed"(see: Asian Women) doesn't work anymore.
The "Yellow Girl" demographic alone disproves all forms of "Black Victimhood" and they know it.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 03:19:08 UTC No. 16457726
>>16456951
Uh no, Dear. Go read up again. "Test Prep" is a scam industry from top to bottom, and guess the name of the biggest publisher in the game?
Kaplan...........Every. Single. Time.
Besides, as long as you "look right"(not White/Asian) your grades don't matter nearly as much anyway.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 15:10:01 UTC No. 16458261
>>16457726
Yes, it is a scam industry. It's a scam test feeding a scam institution. None of it measures anything other than one's gullibility and socioeconomic status.
A fool and their money, Anon. Every time.
raphael at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 15:48:52 UTC No. 16458306
>>16448783
go on cognitivemetrics.co and take old sat
raphael at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 15:50:32 UTC No. 16458307
>>16450969
take olds sat
>https://1926sat.com/
raphael at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 15:51:47 UTC No. 16458309
>>16452508
its relative
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:29:17 UTC No. 16458739
>>16455083
>Here in central Europe
No such thing. Poland is in Eastern Europe
raphael at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 02:48:04 UTC No. 16459220
>>16448783
amazing
they should publish how well it correlates with income and race
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 04:38:43 UTC No. 16459297
>>16458261
Even if you do well and meet, or exceed all of a given institutions requirements, they still "reserve the right" to accept, or deny you for "reasons" that are entirely subjective, never outlined and never explained. That's the very definition of Authoritarianism.
Quite frankly, if you need the "Test Prep", you probably aren't going to do well no matter how hard you try. Maybe a few points, but not a full SD, or anything like that. Again, not that it matters. If you "look right", you have a good shot of getting in, but if you "look wrong", you're in the bin from the start. They literally have AI bots that sort the "applications" before any human ever sees them, then they can't be held personally accountable. "The algorithm made me do it."
Digitized discrimination in the name of Equality(tm).
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 05:25:09 UTC No. 16459317
>>16459297
Persevering midwits will surpass burnout autists any day of the week. Always has been.
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 07:59:18 UTC No. 16459419
>>16448783
>IQ
>SAT
>IQ
>SAT
What the fuck is with all of these threads every day about these nonsense exams that measure nothing of actual importance? "IQ" tests do not really measure intelligence, the SAT is an exam you can pay to understand (proven multiple times), and racists/eugenicists still haven't killed themselves for not being 100% hyperaryan super-MENSA. These threads benefit nobody.
bodhi at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 01:19:12 UTC No. 16460356
>>16459419
>These threads benefit nobody
Tabula rasa is the foundation of neoliberal and communist ideology and the entire western world's identity and future hinges on the outcome of this discussion, at this point in time. You are a fucking idiot stfu
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 01:46:34 UTC No. 16460391
>>16448783
Its not that Europeans fought better then Africans (colonized all of africa in 20 years), it thats war itself is just racists against africans.
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 07:55:24 UTC No. 16460663
>>16450086
>I don't want to have to go through 200 year history lesson but it goes like this.
I feel like we could go through 10000 years of this and nothing will have changed. Descendants of billionaires can lose all their money in two or three generations but it seems like hundreds of years makes no difference for the wealth of black americans.
>>16451342
SATs are biased against people that didn't give a shit in school. At least IQ tests don't have that.
>>16451516
Tests in general seem to follow the pattern of The Sort, regardless of what the test is about.
>>16453541
>IQ is 100% genetic.
>You can certainly lower your max potential IQ via drug use, head trauma
So not 100% genetic, lol. Maybe genetic upper limit. Malnutrition can cause some huge issues too as seen in Gaza.
>>16459419
>"IQ" tests do not really measure intelligence
https://quillette.com/2024/10/30/wh
>SAT is an exam you can pay to understand (proven multiple times)
Why doesn't Bill Gates just pay black kids to understand them then?
>>16458739
In the future Poland will probably be considered within Europe and what is now considered Western Europe will be Eurabia.
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 11:09:33 UTC No. 16460788
>>16450086
Non-western immigrants/refugees came to my country between 2-3 generations ago. To this day, they are a net drain on society, even the kids who are supposedly "integrated". I went to a school that was 70% immigrant, yet the advanced classes were 90% white, with some Turkish girls and Indians. That's it. Not a single black, anywhere, though these were for the most part second-generation blacks who spoke the language "fluently" and had no mainstream reason to underperform as severely as they did.
To elaborate more, my country lies and says they are 40% more criminal. This is dismissed as a "socioeconomic problem" as the focus is on robberies in recent years. It does not explain why Congolese and Somalis rape at a rate of 14x the native population, and the second generation of the Congolese at upwards of 10x the local population (they don't even report the Somali rape rate).
But people like you will endlessly spout the "socioeconomic" lie to move more money from Whites to keep the blacks afloat, under the recurring lie that in 20 more years they'll suddenly get their act together, become tax-positive, perform just as well on all tests, and become completely equal.
It's exhausting, and a blatant lie to anyone who has had the misfortune of growing up around them and being fed the equality lie their entire childhood. They are a race of children, for whom the Western world has decided to babysit and kowtow to the tantrums of.
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 11:17:21 UTC No. 16460794
>>16455785
If I recall, on the whole test there's one question that is ambiguous enough that it tripped me up. I suppose it would be thr one by which you could actively discriminate. Aside from that, it's basic shit.
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 11:59:38 UTC No. 16460821
>>16460788
Germany?
By the way a recent study came out, and Immigrants average about and 85 IQ relative to a German norm. That's including western immigrants like Greeks, Russians, Poles, Ukrainians. SSA's like Somalis were in the 70s KEK (pic rel is the raw data to the norm the test was instructed to use, but to a "recent German norm" you have to subtract about 5 points from all of these results).
But like you said, this is obvious to anyone with one eye and a functioning brain. But, we both know nothing will ever be done. The countries will continue to be flooded, and they'll start to resemble countries with 85 average IQ more and more. It won't be sudden; It will be a slow decay. Everything will get a little dirtier, more beat up, until one day you wake up and you're in Brazil.
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 12:37:17 UTC No. 16460835
>>16460821
Poorway.
We've had the same averaging issue the Germans did. Our census bureau (I guess that's the best translation) published a report claiming that immigrants are only 40% more criminal than the native population*, and that second generation immigrants are only 10% more, meaning that immigration isn't the cause in the rise of crime.
And that's true... if you average over ALL immigrants. Y'know, treating Danes, Swedes, Germans, Dutch and Americans the same as Somalis, Arabs, Haitian and Russians. The report doesn't break it down like this, but the actual, probably undoctored data is published alongside it, telling a completely different story. Africans, Arabs and North Africans commit sexual crimes, robberies and violent offenses many times more frequently than the native population. Second generation, for some ethnicities, halves the rate, but they're still, best case, 50% more likely to commit any given crime than the native population.
Bear in mind, they define the native population as "parents were born in Norway", with no further qualification. I find it more illustrative to look at the children of Swedish/Danish immigrants, as they are so close to Norwegian as it gets while still being White and a separate bracket on statistics. Doing so places the actual percentage at approximately half than of the census's defined native population.
The lies you can tell my aggressive averaging. The lie that we're all equal.
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 12:42:20 UTC No. 16460839
>>16460821
>>16460835
The thing I found equally as funny is that Norwegian politicians are pushing for sending Ukrainian refugees back to Ukraine when the war ends. Meanwhile, no such proclamation for the Syrians, or any other non-European refugees. My best guess? Ukrainians are setting a standard too high for other refugees because they, y'know, actually learn the language, do well in school, get jobs. Still likely a net drain, but we won't see the long term effects of them because they've only been here for, at most, almost 3 years now.
Meanwhile the Pakis who are 2 generation deep and still commiting disproportionately more crimes.
If the Ukies aren't sent home ASAP, people will start to notice that, hey, perhaps it shouldn't be this difficult to make the refugerinos actually function in civilized society?
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 12:55:35 UTC No. 16460850
>>16460835
>>16460839
Sorry to hear. I thought things weren't so bad in Norway.
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 13:31:52 UTC No. 16460872
>>16460850
Not as bad as in Germany or other parts of central/western Europe. But that's the great thing about this influx is that even if you stop it things still continue downwards.
I estimate we're 10-15 years behind Sweden, but getting there.
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 13:36:25 UTC No. 16460873
>>16460872
We'd need something longer than 10-15 years just to get to the bottom of what this post meant. We'd need something BIG. Hmmm? What did this post mean???...
ANSWER ME!
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 17:40:28 UTC No. 16461148
>>16456038
LOL
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 02:32:46 UTC No. 16461688
>>16459317
Yes, being a workaholic is more valuable than being a "genius". Smart, but lazy isn't of much value to anyone, but you can teach an eager beaver almost anything.
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 02:35:55 UTC No. 16461693
>>16460663
Yes, it is genetic, just like height. You can try to "maximize your genetic potential", but you can't "make" yourself taller than your genes will allow. Drugs and physical trauma can always override genetics. LOL!
It's a one way street. You can easily make your IQ go down using many "methods". There are effectively no ways to "make it go up" over and over again using ANY "method". Trust me, if there was a "trick" to "make people smarter", we'd all be doing it, the same way we'd all be doing the "get taller" exercise.
bodhi at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 04:31:24 UTC No. 16461792
>>16456038
>we come to your countries because ours are shitholes full of retards an we have problems competing with the natives so it's your fault!
lmao, go back
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 05:16:41 UTC No. 16461814
>>16461693
Try learning english before you open your jeet mouth.
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 05:18:48 UTC No. 16461816
>>16461814
>average indian male is 5'4
How do you cope Sanjay?
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 05:23:25 UTC No. 16461821
>>16461816
The only indian man here is you fuxking loser.
Literally kys.
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 05:25:57 UTC No. 16461823
>>16448783
I would genuinely love to see an entirely "Black Designed" IQ Test. It would be a fascinating insight into what they perceive to be "complex" and "logical". Either the questions would be valid, but so easy in order to make the Black test takers look good, that all others would score off the charts, or they would just be totally bizarro nonsense. Either way they loose. It's like a weak person challenging a stronger person to a weight lifting competition. There's no way they can win honestly and any attempt at cheating will be pathetically obvious.
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 05:32:38 UTC No. 16461827
>>16461823
They call it "labor contrct learning" or "contract labor" or something like that. The idea being that its not important if a Black person can awnser the question right, but whats implrtant is how much "effort/labor" he put into it. So he could be a fucking retard but if he sat there working on it as long as a asian math whiz he is therefore equally qualified.
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 06:03:44 UTC No. 16461841
>>16459419
Every day a new batch of 8 year old autists are told they are gifted and eventually end up here thinking they've found a home.
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 06:09:44 UTC No. 16461843
>>16461841
Normies hate autists.
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 06:16:43 UTC No. 16461846
>>16461843
>Normies hate autists.
Autists barely notice.
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 06:38:26 UTC No. 16461855
>>16461823
>Either the questions would be valid, but so easy in order to make the Black test takers look good, that all others would score off the charts, or they would just be totally bizarro nonsense. Either way they loose.
Not really, there's been articles that actually cover how several SAT questions had shown blacks doing better on average compared to their counterparts primarily because of terminology and how the questions are laid out. So a syntax vs semantics issue could be at play. Where arrangement of a sentence or use of lesser utilized vocabulary terms can cause misinterpreting of what the answer should be.
>It's like a weak person challenging a stronger person to a weight lifting competition.
Your analogy would actually help the argument of different but equally valid testing though. For instance there are multiple weight lifting competitions. Dead lifting and Squat lifting are two exercises that focus on similar set of upper muscles but different set of lower muscles. At the professional competition level you would need to be mindful of which muscles to train in order to reach peak form. Pic related.
There's also an issue of max strength vs max endurance which focuses on how much maximum weight you can lift in one to three successful repetitions vs how much general weight you can lift in the maxium amount of repetitions be it 10, 20, 30, etc. So a person could be "weak" in maxium strength but "strong" in how many repetitions they could perform at a lower weight level e.g. less likely to get fatigued. This also applies vice versa since a person who focuses on maxium weight lifting would have larger muscles and form which means a high amount of reps would eventually be unweidly after a while.
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 15:51:00 UTC No. 16462247
>>16461841
>and eventually end up here thinking they've found a home
Plot twist: they are right.
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 15:54:07 UTC No. 16462250
>>16455499
In order to do anything these days you need a certificate proving that you can, which often requires already knowing how to do the thing before you can even be eligible to receive certification
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 18:49:37 UTC No. 16462493
>>16448891
english is my fourth language, I was born and grew up in eastern europe and I know chesterfield is a type of sofa even though I would not be able to pick it out from a line-up. in conclusion no american of any color has any excuse.
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 19:26:17 UTC No. 16462540
>>16448783
They seem to be accurate: everybody knows nogs are useless bunch
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 23:17:24 UTC No. 16462834
>>16448783
if a test was tailored to niggers, niggers would still fail
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 02:12:20 UTC No. 16463005
>>16449205
>the evolutionary fact that a race really good at sports might also be really bad at science.
That is demonstrably false. Refer to the Greeks. The idea that there has to be a balance between intelligence and physicality is one of the most harmful, if not the most harmful notions that have plagued the human species.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 02:21:18 UTC No. 16463014
>>16455111
>the competence crisis doesn't exist.
>it does exist and this is the reason.
i think i will sarcastically dismiss you and not bother reading any more of your inane posts
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 04:06:12 UTC No. 16463140
>>16461816
I am 100% Lily Huwhite, and you're not and never will be.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 04:08:17 UTC No. 16463143
>>16461827
Ah yes, the soft bigotry of lowered expectations. Literally getting an "A for effort". LOL! Must be nice.....
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 04:08:33 UTC No. 16463145
>>16463005
Greeks didn't compete with niggers.
Brains and muscles are made of the same pluripotent cells.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 04:10:33 UTC No. 16463146
>>16461855
If everyone EXCEPT the Blacks are doing fine with the question, the it isn't a matter of "syntax", especially when the Indian or Chinese kid is taking the SAT in their 2nd or 3rd language(English) and beating "Native Speakers", like Blacks
I wonder who wrote these "articles"? Deranged Leftists who have to cover their ass and deny the data, mayhaps?
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 04:12:15 UTC No. 16463148
>>16461855
You're not able to extrapolate into the hypothetical, are you?
There is NOTHING you can do do "raise your IQ" by means of effort, willpower or intent. Absolutely NOTHING. It is fixed like your height and can only be undermined, but never extended.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 04:14:37 UTC No. 16463153
>>16462493
Correct! The Lefties truly hate Indians and East Asians because they prove your point time and time again, along with the fact that White students can/do go overseas and do just as well too.
The "issues" are ONLY ever in the "Black American Community". No where else. No matter if it's their first, or 3rd language and often coming from the Third World.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 04:48:25 UTC No. 16463183
>>16455980
Question: Mup da doo didda po mo gub bidda be dat tum muhfugen bix nood cof bin dub ho muhfugga?
Answer:
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 07:40:26 UTC No. 16463260
>>16449205
Whites did 90%+ of science and they're also the tallest and strongest race.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 08:36:28 UTC No. 16463290
>only thing in the universe evolutionary pressure doesn't affect is human brain
>human have genetic memory for... taking tests
Ah, so this is the cutting edge of biology these days. Very interesting thread indeed.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 10:14:47 UTC No. 16463360
>>16450088
>Dumbasses
Yikes, you had me until the ableism. Peace.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 11:13:16 UTC No. 16463400
>>16463183
I just failed :(
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 11:48:25 UTC No. 16463437
>>16451106
>***taps sign***
I'm going to rape you.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 12:15:40 UTC No. 16463467
>>16451944
Are you saying that the Chinese Imperial exams were as closely correlated with g as tests today?
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 12:35:28 UTC No. 16463477
>>16453565
>All peoples in History have been
>..."nuked"
Uh... no?
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 13:13:03 UTC No. 16463490
>>16455229
Because the real Americans are no longer the demographic majority and are without real leadership.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 13:18:21 UTC No. 16463494
>>16455249
>nonwhite countries excluded from the "kills" part
You're killing me.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 13:23:20 UTC No. 16463496
>>16455676
Grim af
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 13:27:18 UTC No. 16463499
>>16463496
Your hell will run out. When it does, you will pay.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 13:35:15 UTC No. 16463506
>>16448891
I do so your guess is wrong. What else could be wrong? I have little confidence in your argument.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 13:40:17 UTC No. 16463511
>>16451106
>>16451033
>>16452303
>>16460821
Indians refute all your racist talking points. They are supposedly 70 IQ brown retards who have complex social system, are the most prosperous group in the US and Western/Northern Europe, have their own civilization with a unique architectural style and complex religion.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 14:20:23 UTC No. 16463552
>>16463499
wtf
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 14:23:20 UTC No. 16463554
>>16463511
Classic outliers denying the mean fallacy.
It is obviously a selection bias and only a vaush cummie could be so disingenuous as to larp out some bullshit about street shitting scammers.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 14:27:33 UTC No. 16463558
>>16463511
nta but, India has a caste system and the ones crushing it in the west are a part of the upper castes. Fun fact: a Indian woman named Angela Saini wrote a book against scientific racism, ironically, her intelligence is likely a product of her Saini caste heritage kek
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 15:16:19 UTC No. 16463613
>>16463511
No, no it doesn't. West Asian and North African """"""""""""'refugees""""""""""" in Europe are much less selected for, i.e. filtered, than Indians. There's 1.5 billion Indians, and generously assuming an average IQ of 90, we expect there to be about 75,000,000 with an IQ over 115, which is itself about the population of France, Germany, or Britain.
It's for a similar reason to why Hispanics in Europe are of much higher quality than Hispanics in America, or that West-Asians/North-Africans are of much higher quality in America than in Europe.
God you're so fucking stupid. I can't believe I even have to explain this. Here's your beloved India
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=386
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 17:34:21 UTC No. 16463819
>>16463554
>>16463613
>>16463558
Yes, India has caste system. But why would somebody who has a high caste, and high social position in India leave India? You are just claiming only the "highest" Indians leave India because it fits your racist viewpoint - you don't have any evidence for that.
In fact the best of any group usually don't leave - leaving means you will lose the original (high) position you have , for an uncertain position in the new place.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 17:43:21 UTC No. 16463831
>>16451025
>which yields students who can wipe the floor with anyone collectively in testing.
Then why does all their engineering absolutely fucking suck shit and their military equipment is generations behind the US? Along with with computational power and AI?
>le asians are good at math
No fucking asians have made any leaps in mathematics. It's also been bored, autistic white men, especially of german decent.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 17:45:30 UTC No. 16463834
>>16463831
> No asians have made any leaps in mathematics
> The biggest leap in mathematics since the Romans and Greeks was made by Indians
Tell me you know nothing about Math without telling me.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 17:46:52 UTC No. 16463838
>>16463831
>s
> le china bad engineering
Wigger, NVIDIA and TSMC which are arguably the most important tech company in the modern world are literally ran by Chinese people.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 17:56:34 UTC No. 16463850
>>16463834
Forming basic mathematics 3000 years ago isn't comparable what was done in europe in the last 500. There is a reason why germany became the de facto state to study engineering and mathematics before ww1. There's a reason why america went to the moon and china hasn't.
>>16463838
NVIDIA was founded by a taiwanese man and an american engineer. They are an american based company using asian labor. The first modern computer was invented by a german, and the first microtransistors were all american. Asians can't do shit americans have done for 70 years now.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 18:00:12 UTC No. 16463855
>>16463850
The fact the most advanced mathetmatics mankind knows, string theory, relativity, calculus, and quantum mechanics were all discovered/invented/whatever by fucking germans and UK and America and not asians should clue you into something.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 18:24:17 UTC No. 16463877
>>16463855
> knows nothing about mathematics
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 18:50:36 UTC No. 16463923
>>16463511
The existence of India refutes the fact that all African "refugees" are an underperforming, highly criminal tax burden in all western countries? And it refutes the general state of Africa as a whole?
O K.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 19:21:57 UTC No. 16463970
>>16463819
No one needs to explain why bumfuck streetshitting street-cleaning jeets are less likely to be able to legally more to America than professionals
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 19:22:28 UTC No. 16463973
>>16463970
>more
move
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 19:34:23 UTC No. 16463995
>>16449205
>high INT, WIS == low STR, DEX
>high STR, DEX == low INT, WIS
Anon, children's cartoons and Hollywood flicks do not feature accurate depictions of real people in the real world.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 19:45:25 UTC No. 16464007
>>16463995
Why is this allowed on sci?
Ban non scientific or mathematics content.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 20:30:12 UTC No. 16464051
>>16463923
>9
Indians are about the same IQ as Africans. 70-80. So yes, that refutes your racist viewpoints.
>>16463970
Why are you talking about the other lower end of the extreme? You haven't proven that the highest caste or the most intelligent Indians leave.
It's just how you cope so your racist viewpoint makes sense. You want there to be a great filter and only the smartest Indians to pass through it.
There is neither evidence nor proof that only the smartest leave. And you haven't shown that they are the highest caste ones either. Again, that's just your racial fantasy that you want to be true so you can shit on Blacks.
> img
Top scorers doesn't mean they are the highest caste.
These scores also have nothing to do with caste.
And that was your original argument : Indians do better because only the highest caste leaves, where are your proofs for that?
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 21:12:09 UTC No. 16464082
>>16464051
>Indians are about the same IQ as Africans. 70-80. So yes, that refutes your racist viewpoints.
Please explain how that refutes the fact that somalis are underperforming severely in my country, and near-universally buttfuck stupid and massively more criminal.
bodhi at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 21:13:30 UTC No. 16464085
>>16463838
nvidia is an american company that has ONE Asian AMEICAN engineer/founder retard
bodhi at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 21:17:13 UTC No. 16464091
>>16463850
>NVIDIA was founded by a taiwanese man and an american engineer.
Two americans and one taiwanese man. Pretty good documentary by coldfusion if you are interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVt
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 21:25:09 UTC No. 16464096
>>16464082
It means it has nothing to do with race or IQ, since Indians are practically the same as somalis when it comes to that.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 21:32:50 UTC No. 16464105
>>16464096
Right, then it's not me you're addressing. I don't care if IQ is a proper metric for intelligence, but I know by observation that them being criminal dumbasses cannot be explained by "poverty" or "lack of opportunity" or "socioeconomics" either,
raphael at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 23:04:54 UTC No. 16464216
>>16451025
retard iq is innate
im not going to argue evolutionary aspects since we dont have data. genetics research is still new
๐๏ธ raphael at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 23:05:59 UTC No. 16464218
>>16451025
show an imperial test from 1000 ad nigger
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 23:35:29 UTC No. 16464244
>>16463970
Make 10 times more money working in USA, have the possibility of moving up into a management position with another 10 times raise.
Combine this with sexually liberated women everywhere and you can see why the smartest men leave India for USA.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 23:40:55 UTC No. 16464245
>>16464244
> 10 times more money , sex, management position
That means nothing if you are rich in India, own land, own a factory, have access to the rich and hot indian women. Have a big loving family that can live like kings in India.
You are viewing this from your own standpoint, which is a post-modern Western one.
Again where is your proof other than projecting your own viewpoint?
The claim is: Only high caste indians move, only the richest and highest class indians move. That's simply not true.
The truth is that only the middle class who has basically nothing to lose but still enough money is moving.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 05:14:05 UTC No. 16464446
>>16464007
>Ban non scientific or mathematics content.
what's your problem with mathematics content?
... oh, in your native language negation has a lower precedence than disjunction. well, in english it's the other way around.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 05:31:56 UTC No. 16464475
>>16463819
>why would somebody who has a high caste, and high social position in India leave India?
Because, 1st world high places >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2nd world high places >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 06:33:58 UTC No. 16464552
>>16463877
NTA, masters maths student. It's still pretty much all Germans, French, Italians, British, Russians, and other Europeans, Jews, and in ancient times Greeks.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 05:22:07 UTC No. 16465745
>>16448783
"Ability"...to do what, aside from take the test itself?
If you're asking whether, or not, the kids that get the best scores on the MCAT, LSAT, GRE, SAT actually end up doing better work? Not even remotely, but the scores give them access to the places where cool work is being done, so you have the opportunity to be a part of it too.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 06:54:19 UTC No. 16465811
>>16464245
>The truth is that only the middle class who has basically nothing to lose but still enough money is moving.
>Only
Fucking hell.
No, plenty of rich people are moving too. Usually they send their kids to study at HPYMS or private institutions so they can mingle with a smaller other rich Indians, network with the NRIs in the US. Usually they settle down there too, daddy has good opportunities back home but why do that when you can leverage the wealth to have it nearly the same but in a much better country.
The majority? No. But it's not *only* the middle class who have "nothing to lose". This isn't the late-19th early-20th century European migration where people arrived on the boats with only 2 nickles in their pocket searching for the American dream.
t. dated a rich Indian, know how they work. Most were rich elsewhere but were at least sending their kids to the US to live, and maybe follow after later in life.
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:29:07 UTC No. 16467233
I got a 27. Am I retarded?
raphael at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 02:48:17 UTC No. 16469139
>>16449013
this