Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 20:52:19 UTC No. 16451206

>>16451202
Easier to develop, though things that do develop ranged attacks like humans and archerfish have continuous advantage

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 21:04:30 UTC No. 16451228

>>16451202
There are quite a few animals that do ranged weapons.

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 21:45:17 UTC No. 16451278

Evolution developed throwing rocks and that species instantly dominated Earth

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 22:43:46 UTC No. 16451337

Why is there no bird that shits hard shits and shitbombs its prey

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 04:19:35 UTC No. 16451687

The animal autists hang out in >>>/an/

Stop guessing start learning at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 04:26:27 UTC No. 16451694

>>16451202
Because long range is asymmetrical. And mele gives balance.

Think about it long range would allow you to run circles around prey and doesn't give any animal adequate defense. And allows overpopulation of one and underpopulation of another.

Personal attacks give animals a fair or balanced fight and adds equal difficulty on both sides

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 04:28:46 UTC No. 16451699

>>16451694
You're retarded

Stop guessing start learning at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 04:33:46 UTC No. 16451705

>>16451699
How nature has population control mechanisms it also makes the predator/prey relationship a competitive Hillary.

Why do rabbits run fast? To get away from predators dumbass.

Why do lions have hard time getting gazelle? Hmmm.. geee... idk

If everything were simple there would be no balance. The challenge also gives things meaning

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 04:44:47 UTC No. 16451720

>>16451705
Nature doesn't need "prey-predator balance", it needs self perpetuation, and that can be obtained by generalizing your diet to prey on any and all things
The fact that you're posting in here is an astounding counterargument to your garbage opinion
We've hunted to extinction many many species, but have we run out of things to eat?
"Prey" means an organism I can take down, with strong enough targeted ballistics there's not a single thing that can't be shot down, the problem to develop it (which is what OP was asking) is that targeted ballistics requires an immense amount of brain power(thats why archerfish are the smartest fish by far btw, and so are we among all animals) as an upfront cost, once you got that there's no need to keep anything balanced

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 04:48:15 UTC No. 16451724

>>16451202
humans evolved to be able to throw things though.

Stop guessing start learning at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 04:48:41 UTC No. 16451725

>>16451720
>Have we run out of things to est?

Cites UN food security data.

Are you dumb or are you dumb?

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 04:50:13 UTC No. 16451726

>@
Don't know why did I even bother replying to this imbecile

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 04:54:26 UTC No. 16451730

>>16451202
There was that one species that spec'd into ranged...

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 08:07:40 UTC No. 16451881

>>16451202
Because long range requires ammunition. And biologically speaking, ammunition is way too fucking expensive.

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 08:11:16 UTC No. 16451883

>>16451202
It's a thousand times less energy expendant for me to build a machine that shoots its own projectiles than evolve a way that shoots those out of myself.

All processes, all of them not just biological life, seek the lowest most efficient and most stable energy state.

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 08:40:56 UTC No. 16451895

All examples of life that use any kind of naturally self biologically created, self propelled (as in from contractive muscle force) distance mechanism for attacking/defending are small, are generally chemical reactive substances be it snake venom or bug explosion, are rare, and are limited in use due to being exceedingly biologically expensive to produce to use and to utilize.

Male ejaculation is a prime example to reference. All of the biological processes for nearly if not all ejaculating species results in a refractory period, a limited quantity and limited replenishment rate, and generally results in hormonal responses that induce relaxation and tiredness regardless of method and energy expense to achieve ejaculation.

Stuff leaving a body is significantly more expensive than that body simply taking an external object and moving it with projectile force.

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 09:20:31 UTC No. 16451916

>>16451895
> *spider spaffs four thousand miles of web in a dead end cupboard then walks away all over your argument*

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 15:28:39 UTC No. 16452281

Some spiders can shoot solid butthairs too, and they are strong enough to kill a small mamal but they don't grow back until molting

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 15:34:05 UTC No. 16452286

>>16451895
It's not really expensive, secretions are by far the most common projectile use in animals and many do use of them, the actual rare and expensive to use are non-biological projectiles, that require an immense upfront cost in intelligence

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 15:37:56 UTC No. 16452292

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 22:36:26 UTC No. 16452892

>>16451206
>Easier to develop
prove this.

🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 10:29:40 UTC No. 16453399

Most animals have not developed long-range weapons because evolution favors traits that provide immediate benefits. For a feature to persist and evolve over generations, it must be advantageous right away, not only millions of years in the future.

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 01:20:19 UTC No. 16454273

>>16452892
the "least possible action" that constitutes melee is just ramming into another organism, a technique already present in the very first mobile life form

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 06:56:48 UTC No. 16454536

>>16451202
in order for something evolve it needs to be an improvement at every discrete step.
something like a bombardier beetle is the only avenue i could see an actual gun creature evolving, but things somewhat similar like archerfish and pistol shrimp exist

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 07:17:33 UTC No. 16454542

>>16451202
>Why did evolution choose to go meele instead of developing long range capabilities?

There are actually a bunch of organisms that either throw shit at prey/predators (like us for example) or do have some kind of natural projectile like hairs, quills, ink, venom, and mucous.

You're maybe asking why there isn't "more" of them or something to that effect and this Anon got it: >>16451881 It's expensive.
Expending energy on hunting and killing an animal with your claws, fangs, isn't 'too bad', because if you fail you can just back off and rest. A lot of organisms kill prey in a matter of seconds, one and done, so having a method you can spam on repeat with minimal cost is kind the meta. A lot of the most successful predators ambush their prey. If my only method of hunting is shooting a quill out of my body - I've limited to how many quills I have and how long it takes to grow new ones back... And to make matters worse: the more hunts I fail, the more defenseless I become against competitors and predators. A lot of predators have a success rate of like 10%.