Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 21:47:42 UTC No. 16451279

>>16451259
See Kaczynski’s section on surrogate activities. There’s no such thing as procrastination when it comes to basic needs. This also necessitates that animals don’t procrastinate as they are only concerned with survival.

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 22:32:24 UTC No. 16451331

>>16451259
fear of failure. people with emotional support and a strong commitment to their community don't do this.

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 23:03:29 UTC No. 16451355

>>16451259
Work and school are usually responsibilities not desires
You might want to deal with schoolwork. you might not. You need to. Will your life be over if you blow something off or call out sick? Probably not. If it becomes a consistent pattern then there are serious consequences.

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 23:25:03 UTC No. 16451374

>>16451259
I was going to write a four post essay replying to this point, but my buddy just asked if I want to hop on gmod for a few hours.

I'll get around to it later.

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 23:45:05 UTC No. 16451388

>>16451259
Anxiety managment, surprisingly enough.

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 01:36:08 UTC No. 16451505

>>16451388
Please explain

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 02:14:21 UTC No. 16451554

>>16451505
Briefly, an anxious, stressed person will make a decision to delay work on a project that they feel will be difficult or unenjoyable in order to take on another task that they consider to be easier or more enjoyable. This temporarily lessens their stress and anxiety.
It's not a successful long term strategy and can spiral into depression.

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 21:59:40 UTC No. 16452856

>>16451259
people usually procrastinate because they dont know how to do something.

Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 02:34:28 UTC No. 16453136

>>16451279
Can you elaborate on this?
>>16451388
>>16451554
Terror management theory is retarded
>>16452856
Simply not true

Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 07:42:02 UTC No. 16453316

>>16453136
There’s not much to elaborate. If you procrastinate on essential needs, then you just fucking die. Even something like sex leads to your species dying. But if you procrastinate on non-essential activities, you’re just fine. The only thing you don’t satisfy is your intrinsic psychological need for progress on a goal that was evolutionarily wired into you due to the essential needs above. Since our technological system has essentially eliminated the urgency for essential needs, nearly 100% of your time is spent doing surrogate activities. But deep down we realize that it’s all a trick, just bread and games, which leads to feelings of procrastination, boredom and emptiness. Ironically, the less of a hiveminded bug you are, the more you feel like being unproductive in the current system. This is why Ted makes such a big deal about leftists and their tendencies in his manifesto. He pities them for essentially getting so buckbroken by the system (oversocialized as he calls it) that they pay no attention to getting tricked and just do as told.

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 20:55:32 UTC No. 16455218

>>16451505
i will not do this

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 03:14:23 UTC No. 16455540

>>16453316
There's no escaping it though.
When you procrastinate on doing boring technology stuff then you get invaded and enslaved by the next door people with their fancy industrial revolution powered by depressed, overworked ant workers.

Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:03:30 UTC No. 16457240

>>16455540
yeah

Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:10:35 UTC No. 16458116

>>16451259
evolutionary psychology channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyHeretic/videos

Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 08:01:23 UTC No. 16459422

>>16451279
>There’s no such thing as procrastination when it comes to basic needs.
Wrong. If you only knew how bad things can get.

Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 21:21:39 UTC No. 16460039

well then why do some people seemingly have more discipline than others? is discipline normally distributed, like iq?

Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 04:52:17 UTC No. 16460559

>>16460039
Central limit theorem
Most characteristics of humans, especially psychological, follow a normal distribution because they're the sum of multiple factors

Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 08:12:43 UTC No. 16461896

>>16460559
right. i suppose the question is moreso: is discipline (defined as the ability to just do things that are good for you) fixed in the same way that IQ is fixed?

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 18:40:29 UTC No. 16463902

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Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 20:08:04 UTC No. 16464024

>>16461896
If you believe in determinism, yes
Saying "IQ is fixed" is an oversimplification that groups fluid and fixed intelligence (g) into one boat
Fluid g peaks in the late teens and 20s, which is when you see e.g. Einstein publishing his best papers, and declines after
Meanwhile fixed g picks up over time as you accumulate knowledge
This considered, and seeing that IQ becomes more genetically correlated with age, it wouldn't be far-fetched to say that fixed g is genetic, and fluid g is variably affected by non-genetic factors
From that, I would personally draw that discipline is
(1) mostly not influenced by genetic factors
(2) largely influenced by the environment
(3) not at all fixed and highly variable

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 03:25:00 UTC No. 16464382

>>16460559
Are normally distributed psychometrics invalid on that basis?
That is, IQ is worse than reaction time. If the IQ test sums all these non-normal things into something normal, it would be better to unmix the non-normal things. If factor analysis is PCA what is the psychometric ICA? At the same time this normal-non-normal distinction is pretty flimsy because the best psychological time units might make the population reaction time normal.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 03:40:35 UTC No. 16464388

>>16461896
>is discipline (defined as the ability to just do things that are good for you
There are multiple yous. How does the present you care for the future you? It's good to defer a difficult task if it turns out to be useless or unnecessary, or if you expect to discover an easier way. Yelling and belittling doesn't work on other people. The wrong behavior follows from mistake in perception, not of judgment.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 04:15:27 UTC No. 16464415

>>16464382
>Are normally distributed psychometrics invalid on that basis?
No, they aren't. I was just explaining why many of them are normal.
>If the IQ test sums all these non-normal things into something normal, it would be better to unmix the non-normal things.
Nobody really knows if human psychometrics are actually normally distributed. Maybe the non-normal things balance each other out, leading it to be normal overall.

🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 11:35:52 UTC No. 16467022

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Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:01:49 UTC No. 16467207

>>16453316
>If you procrastinate on essential needs, then you just fucking die
Essential needs are Q1 in the matrix. When i'm feeling lazy and it's time to cook dinner, i will delay that task until it goes from urgent (dinner time, hungry) to appallingly dire (way past dinner time, starving).

🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 21:14:31 UTC No. 16468728

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Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 05:07:00 UTC No. 16471650

>>16464024
>From that, I would personally draw that discipline is
>(2) largely influenced by the environment
What environmental factors cultivate discipline? (In other words, what can I alter about my environment/lifestyle to help me cultivate more self-discipline?)

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 05:09:34 UTC No. 16471653

>>16451259
fear

Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 03:08:08 UTC No. 16472832

>>16471650
Bump

Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 09:03:14 UTC No. 16473153

>>16451259
>everyone who procrastinates understands that it's completely irrational.
Its not though, it is rational to be as efficient as possible doing a task which could mean waiting until just before its deadline to get it all wrapped up.

Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 18:23:37 UTC No. 16473650

>>16455540
We aren't in danger of being overpowered by a more advanced society because there isn't one yet. Culture hasn't caught up with technology. It will take many generations for this to change, as cultures that make more of technology emerge. Until then individuals can afford to be lazy, and so they do.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 09:52:15 UTC No. 16474557

>>16473650
>We aren't in danger of being overpowered by a more advanced society
Then why are so many people going to congress to give speeches about UAPs that claim otherwise?

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:19:52 UTC No. 16474974

>>16474557
It's panem et circenses.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:46:29 UTC No. 16474999

>>16451279
I procrastinate shitting if I am doing something I don't want to stop.

🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:23:10 UTC No. 16475858

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🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 04:14:41 UTC No. 16477463

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Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 14:43:42 UTC No. 16477825

>>16451259
Societal demands are bullshit. Artificial goals, artificial social pressure to achieve them. And in a society where its all rigged for you get robbed of the majority of your effort. wHy dO peOplE suBconScioUsly SAboTage wOrK?

>>16451279
FPBP

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 07:42:53 UTC No. 16478684

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Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 07:57:19 UTC No. 16478691

>>16451259
because you save energy for survival (that you don't actually need so you get fat)

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 07:58:32 UTC No. 16478693

>>16473650
>We aren't in danger of being overpowered by a more advanced society because there isn't one yet
what is China

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 12:56:13 UTC No. 16478913

what is the most common cause of procrastination

Procrastination is a complex behavior with multiple potential causes, but some of the most common reasons people procrastinate include:

## Task Aversiveness

One of the most prevalent causes of procrastination is task aversiveness - when people find a task unpleasant, boring, frustrating, or difficult[1][5]. If someone perceives a task negatively, they're more likely to put it off in favor of more enjoyable activities.

## Fear of Failure

Many people procrastinate due to fear of failure or criticism[2][4]. The anxiety about potentially not meeting expectations or performing poorly can lead to avoidance of the task altogether.

## Perfectionism

Perfectionism is another major contributor to procrastination[4][5]. People with perfectionist tendencies may delay starting or completing tasks because they're afraid they won't be able to meet their own high standards.

## Poor Time Management and Feeling Overwhelmed

Feeling overwhelmed by the size or complexity of a task, or having poor time management skills, can lead to procrastination[3][5]. When people don't know where to start or how to break down a large task, they're more likely to put it off.

## Prioritization of Short-Term Mood

Many procrastinators prioritize feeling good in the short-term over long-term benefits[1]. They choose to engage in immediately rewarding activities rather than tackling important but potentially stressful tasks.

## Low Self-Efficacy

A lack of confidence in one's ability to complete a task successfully can lead to procrastination[8]. If someone doesn't believe they have the skills or resources to succeed, they may avoid even starting.

While these are some of the most common causes, it's important to note that procrastination is often the result of a combination of factors. Understanding the underlying reasons for procrastination is a crucial step in overcoming it.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 12:57:19 UTC No. 16478915

>>16478913
Citations:
[1] Why People Procrastinate: The Psychology and Causes of ... https://solvingprocrastination.com/why-people-procrastinate/
[2] What Causes Procrastination (and 7 Real Solutions) - SoulSalt https://soulsalt.com/what-causes-procrastination/
[3] The Why Behind Procrastination | NTC Student Success https://success.tulane.edu/why-behind-procrastination
[4] The Psychology Behind Procrastination - UMSU https://umsu.unimelb.edu.au/news/article/7797/The-Psychology-Behind-Procrastination/
[5] 10 Real Causes of Procrastination (& Its Effects on Your Life) | AWSM https://awesomehealthclub.com/blogs/health-wellness/causes-of-procrastination
[6] Procrastination: Why It Happens and How to Overcome It https://www.verywellmind.com/the-psychology-of-procrastination-2795944
[7] The Science Behind Causes of Procrastination - UPMC HealthBeat https://share.upmc.com/2024/02/causes-of-procrastination/
[8] The Real Reason You're Procrastinating | McLean Hospital https://www.mcleanhospital.org/essential/procrastination

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:47:58 UTC No. 16478993

>>16478693
Latin America but yellow and more concerned with optics.