𧡠procrastination
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 21:26:52 UTC No. 16451259
chat what's the science behind procrastination?
everyone who procrastinates understands that it's completely irrational. so then why is procrastination such a universal struggle?
do other intelligent species procrastinate as well?
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 21:47:42 UTC No. 16451279
>>16451259
See Kaczynskiβs section on surrogate activities. Thereβs no such thing as procrastination when it comes to basic needs. This also necessitates that animals donβt procrastinate as they are only concerned with survival.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 22:32:24 UTC No. 16451331
>>16451259
fear of failure. people with emotional support and a strong commitment to their community don't do this.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 23:03:29 UTC No. 16451355
>>16451259
Work and school are usually responsibilities not desires
You might want to deal with schoolwork. you might not. You need to. Will your life be over if you blow something off or call out sick? Probably not. If it becomes a consistent pattern then there are serious consequences.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 23:25:03 UTC No. 16451374
>>16451259
I was going to write a four post essay replying to this point, but my buddy just asked if I want to hop on gmod for a few hours.
I'll get around to it later.
Anonymous at Sat, 26 Oct 2024 23:45:05 UTC No. 16451388
>>16451259
Anxiety managment, surprisingly enough.
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 01:36:08 UTC No. 16451505
>>16451388
Please explain
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 02:14:21 UTC No. 16451554
>>16451505
Briefly, an anxious, stressed person will make a decision to delay work on a project that they feel will be difficult or unenjoyable in order to take on another task that they consider to be easier or more enjoyable. This temporarily lessens their stress and anxiety.
It's not a successful long term strategy and can spiral into depression.
Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 21:59:40 UTC No. 16452856
>>16451259
people usually procrastinate because they dont know how to do something.
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 02:34:28 UTC No. 16453136
>>16451279
Can you elaborate on this?
>>16451388
>>16451554
Terror management theory is retarded
>>16452856
Simply not true
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 07:42:02 UTC No. 16453316
>>16453136
Thereβs not much to elaborate. If you procrastinate on essential needs, then you just fucking die. Even something like sex leads to your species dying. But if you procrastinate on non-essential activities, youβre just fine. The only thing you donβt satisfy is your intrinsic psychological need for progress on a goal that was evolutionarily wired into you due to the essential needs above. Since our technological system has essentially eliminated the urgency for essential needs, nearly 100% of your time is spent doing surrogate activities. But deep down we realize that itβs all a trick, just bread and games, which leads to feelings of procrastination, boredom and emptiness. Ironically, the less of a hiveminded bug you are, the more you feel like being unproductive in the current system. This is why Ted makes such a big deal about leftists and their tendencies in his manifesto. He pities them for essentially getting so buckbroken by the system (oversocialized as he calls it) that they pay no attention to getting tricked and just do as told.
ποΈ Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 20:55:32 UTC No. 16455218
>>16451505
i will not do this
Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 03:14:23 UTC No. 16455540
>>16453316
There's no escaping it though.
When you procrastinate on doing boring technology stuff then you get invaded and enslaved by the next door people with their fancy industrial revolution powered by depressed, overworked ant workers.
ποΈ Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:03:30 UTC No. 16457240
>>16455540
yeah
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:10:35 UTC No. 16458116
>>16451259
evolutionary psychology channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyHe
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 08:01:23 UTC No. 16459422
>>16451279
>Thereβs no such thing as procrastination when it comes to basic needs.
Wrong. If you only knew how bad things can get.
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 04:52:17 UTC No. 16460559
>>16460039
Central limit theorem
Most characteristics of humans, especially psychological, follow a normal distribution because they're the sum of multiple factors
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 08:12:43 UTC No. 16461896
>>16460559
right. i suppose the question is moreso: is discipline (defined as the ability to just do things that are good for you) fixed in the same way that IQ is fixed?
ποΈ Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 18:40:29 UTC No. 16463902
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Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 20:08:04 UTC No. 16464024
>>16461896
If you believe in determinism, yes
Saying "IQ is fixed" is an oversimplification that groups fluid and fixed intelligence (g) into one boat
Fluid g peaks in the late teens and 20s, which is when you see e.g. Einstein publishing his best papers, and declines after
Meanwhile fixed g picks up over time as you accumulate knowledge
This considered, and seeing that IQ becomes more genetically correlated with age, it wouldn't be far-fetched to say that fixed g is genetic, and fluid g is variably affected by non-genetic factors
From that, I would personally draw that discipline is
(1) mostly not influenced by genetic factors
(2) largely influenced by the environment
(3) not at all fixed and highly variable
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 03:25:00 UTC No. 16464382
>>16460559
Are normally distributed psychometrics invalid on that basis?
That is, IQ is worse than reaction time. If the IQ test sums all these non-normal things into something normal, it would be better to unmix the non-normal things. If factor analysis is PCA what is the psychometric ICA? At the same time this normal-non-normal distinction is pretty flimsy because the best psychological time units might make the population reaction time normal.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 03:40:35 UTC No. 16464388
>>16461896
>is discipline (defined as the ability to just do things that are good for you
There are multiple yous. How does the present you care for the future you? It's good to defer a difficult task if it turns out to be useless or unnecessary, or if you expect to discover an easier way. Yelling and belittling doesn't work on other people. The wrong behavior follows from mistake in perception, not of judgment.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 04:15:27 UTC No. 16464415
>>16464382
>Are normally distributed psychometrics invalid on that basis?
No, they aren't. I was just explaining why many of them are normal.
>If the IQ test sums all these non-normal things into something normal, it would be better to unmix the non-normal things.
Nobody really knows if human psychometrics are actually normally distributed. Maybe the non-normal things balance each other out, leading it to be normal overall.
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Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:01:49 UTC No. 16467207
>>16453316
>If you procrastinate on essential needs, then you just fucking die
Essential needs are Q1 in the matrix. When i'm feeling lazy and it's time to cook dinner, i will delay that task until it goes from urgent (dinner time, hungry) to appallingly dire (way past dinner time, starving).
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Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 05:07:00 UTC No. 16471650
>>16464024
>From that, I would personally draw that discipline is
>(2) largely influenced by the environment
What environmental factors cultivate discipline? (In other words, what can I alter about my environment/lifestyle to help me cultivate more self-discipline?)
Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 05:09:34 UTC No. 16471653
>>16451259
fear
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 03:08:08 UTC No. 16472832
>>16471650
Bump
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 09:03:14 UTC No. 16473153
>>16451259
>everyone who procrastinates understands that it's completely irrational.
Its not though, it is rational to be as efficient as possible doing a task which could mean waiting until just before its deadline to get it all wrapped up.
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 18:23:37 UTC No. 16473650
>>16455540
We aren't in danger of being overpowered by a more advanced society because there isn't one yet. Culture hasn't caught up with technology. It will take many generations for this to change, as cultures that make more of technology emerge. Until then individuals can afford to be lazy, and so they do.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 09:52:15 UTC No. 16474557
>>16473650
>We aren't in danger of being overpowered by a more advanced society
Then why are so many people going to congress to give speeches about UAPs that claim otherwise?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:19:52 UTC No. 16474974
>>16474557
It's panem et circenses.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:46:29 UTC No. 16474999
>>16451279
I procrastinate shitting if I am doing something I don't want to stop.
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Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 14:43:42 UTC No. 16477825
>>16451259
Societal demands are bullshit. Artificial goals, artificial social pressure to achieve them. And in a society where its all rigged for you get robbed of the majority of your effort. wHy dO peOplE suBconScioUsly SAboTage wOrK?
>>16451279
FPBP
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Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 07:57:19 UTC No. 16478691
>>16451259
because you save energy for survival (that you don't actually need so you get fat)
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 07:58:32 UTC No. 16478693
>>16473650
>We aren't in danger of being overpowered by a more advanced society because there isn't one yet
what is China
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 12:56:13 UTC No. 16478913
what is the most common cause of procrastination
Procrastination is a complex behavior with multiple potential causes, but some of the most common reasons people procrastinate include:
## Task Aversiveness
One of the most prevalent causes of procrastination is task aversiveness - when people find a task unpleasant, boring, frustrating, or difficult[1][5]. If someone perceives a task negatively, they're more likely to put it off in favor of more enjoyable activities.
## Fear of Failure
Many people procrastinate due to fear of failure or criticism[2][4]. The anxiety about potentially not meeting expectations or performing poorly can lead to avoidance of the task altogether.
## Perfectionism
Perfectionism is another major contributor to procrastination[4][5]. People with perfectionist tendencies may delay starting or completing tasks because they're afraid they won't be able to meet their own high standards.
## Poor Time Management and Feeling Overwhelmed
Feeling overwhelmed by the size or complexity of a task, or having poor time management skills, can lead to procrastination[3][5]. When people don't know where to start or how to break down a large task, they're more likely to put it off.
## Prioritization of Short-Term Mood
Many procrastinators prioritize feeling good in the short-term over long-term benefits[1]. They choose to engage in immediately rewarding activities rather than tackling important but potentially stressful tasks.
## Low Self-Efficacy
A lack of confidence in one's ability to complete a task successfully can lead to procrastination[8]. If someone doesn't believe they have the skills or resources to succeed, they may avoid even starting.
While these are some of the most common causes, it's important to note that procrastination is often the result of a combination of factors. Understanding the underlying reasons for procrastination is a crucial step in overcoming it.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 12:57:19 UTC No. 16478915
>>16478913
Citations:
[1] Why People Procrastinate: The Psychology and Causes of ... https://solvingprocrastination.com/
[2] What Causes Procrastination (and 7 Real Solutions) - SoulSalt https://soulsalt.com/what-causes-pr
[3] The Why Behind Procrastination | NTC Student Success https://success.tulane.edu/why-behi
[4] The Psychology Behind Procrastination - UMSU https://umsu.unimelb.edu.au/news/ar
[5] 10 Real Causes of Procrastination (& Its Effects on Your Life) | AWSM https://awesomehealthclub.com/blogs
[6] Procrastination: Why It Happens and How to Overcome It https://www.verywellmind.com/the-ps
[7] The Science Behind Causes of Procrastination - UPMC HealthBeat https://share.upmc.com/2024/02/caus
[8] The Real Reason You're Procrastinating | McLean Hospital https://www.mcleanhospital.org/esse
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:47:58 UTC No. 16478993
>>16478693
Latin America but yellow and more concerned with optics.
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Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 16:11:25 UTC No. 16489278
>>16477825
what makes a goal artificial and not artificial? a goal may make more sense to a person or less sense, but i don't think there is a relevant natural-artificial dimension. Social goals can be meaningful if they relate to a meaningful part of your personality or community idenitity
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 16:12:26 UTC No. 16489280
>>16478913
if i wanted an AI response I could look it up myself. Contribute something original to the discussion!
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Anonymous at Wed, 27 Nov 2024 11:35:26 UTC No. 16495023
>>16451259
There is no such things as "procrastination". Every thing gets done at its appointed time, including "procrastination", i.e. a quotient of "procrastination" is appointed (or not) between certain things.
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Anonymous at Sat, 30 Nov 2024 09:58:16 UTC No. 16498097
>>16451259
Maybe is fear thatβll you suck if you try so you subconsciously donβt try to avoid the future disappointment?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Nov 2024 10:03:48 UTC No. 16498103
>>16452856
>>16451554
This.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Nov 2024 19:20:09 UTC No. 16498471
I sometimes procrastinate because I enjoy the intensity of meeting a tighter timeline. Not sure if that's right or not.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Nov 2024 19:38:39 UTC No. 16498485
>>16451259
Nutrient deficiency. Most immediate a lack of carbohydrates but even a prolonged lack of fiber (as substrate for gut bacteria) can cause a deficiency of dopamin and search for it from other sources like provocation, screen abuse etc.
Prolonged high dopamin releasing activities is speculated to raise the "base level" and cause addiction and withdrawal but the gut flora remains unmentioned in most psychiatric research and treatment.
All serotonin and about half of the dopamin is produced in the gut according to Quanta (an advisory to the British National Health Service).
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Nov 2024 19:46:25 UTC No. 16498493
>>16498485
>Quanta
*Quadram Institute
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Anonymous at Mon, 2 Dec 2024 08:26:27 UTC No. 16500020
>>16474999
That's not procrastination
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Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 15:36:43 UTC No. 16504869
>>16451259
>so then why is procrastination such a universal struggle?
management is the problem
they had insight and the possibility to intervene but they didn't
even afterwards they didn't come to the conclusion that they did something wrong
most likely because only the students were graded and everyone else was left out
>procrastination
sounds like masturbation's ugly cousin that nobody wants to touch
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Anonymous at Sun, 8 Dec 2024 12:07:10 UTC No. 16506598
>>16495023
>>16498485
>All serotonin and about half of the dopamin is produced in the gut according to Quanta (an advisory to the British National Health Service).
Fascinating. Any specific flora in particular responsible for dopamine? Makes me think adhd should be treated with probiotics instead of meth
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Dec 2024 16:09:55 UTC No. 16506771
>>16464024
>Meanwhile fixed g picks up over time as you accumulate knowledge
>This considered, and seeing that IQ becomes more genetically correlated with age, it wouldn't be far-fetched to say that fixed g is genetic
How does a entity(fixed g) that is variable with the continuity of time, genetic? Do you mean it's genetic as it gets capped out at when you reach a certain point(potential cap) in time. Shouldn't it be the other way around that fixed g is non-genetic but is affected by other factors but fluid g is something that is genetic.
I don't get what you mean by this.
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Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 01:14:33 UTC No. 16508290
>>16451259
There is no such thing as procrastination. It's normal you delay doing things you don't like.
The reality is that you sometimes have to do things you don't want to.
Understand the problem and stop delaying it or learn to enjoy it.
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:10:52 UTC No. 16508821
>>16451259
Procastination is the cousin of learned helplessness.
When you start to thing that the final outcome of a series of activities is out of your control you procastinate.
So dull activities with no meaning for you could induce procastination.
But also activities that you technically enjoy but you suffered some bad experiences.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Dec 2024 17:36:45 UTC No. 16509900
>>16508821
>So dull activities with no meaning for you could induce procastination.
Excellent education system, state run schools are.
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Anonymous at Wed, 18 Dec 2024 05:54:13 UTC No. 16516727
>>16451259
>Click here
ADHD is living hell
ποΈ raphael at Thu, 19 Dec 2024 02:15:36 UTC No. 16517618
>>16451259
its cause you have a low iq nigga
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Anonymous at Sat, 4 Jan 2025 04:42:14 UTC No. 16534734
Procrastinating is a wicked man
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Anonymous at Sat, 11 Jan 2025 00:03:04 UTC No. 16542018
>>16451259
In finance there's a concept called 'time value of money', which essentially maps to time preference: whether to get a reward right away or delay gratification. It affects the price of options, and as the underlying volatility increases, this translates into higher option prices via Black-Scholes.
For a procrastinator, the trade-off is essentially whether to do the hard stuff right now or some other fun stuff. If the environment has a lot of uncertainty, (high volatility) then it is more worthwhile to have an option and not exercise it. Essentially if you're procrastinating a task, you have the option of doing it or not doing it. And if you just happen to finish it, you spend the time and effort involved but lose the option (equivalent to exercising it).
Now if this theory is correct, we would observe procrastination in people who are uncertain of the payoff of a certain action, and that ethnicities from areas in the world where uncertainty rules tend to procrastinate more (subsaharan Africa) compared to more historically stable areas (Europe and East Asia). What do you think?
In other words, if you live in a primitive, uncertain world and you're a village chief tells you to do some task you think is useless, you could just procrastinate and wait it out until the village chief somehow falls ill from dysentery or gets eaten by a tiger. It would be to your advantage to do this
Anonymous at Sat, 11 Jan 2025 02:52:01 UTC No. 16542113
>>16542018
good post except for the country stuff because a lot of my friends are asians who procrastinate on everything
Anonymous at Sun, 12 Jan 2025 08:20:15 UTC No. 16543513
>>16451279
>there's no such thing as procrastination when it comes to basic needs
There absolutely is.
Animals don't procrastinate because they don't have foresight. To think about the future, and then to think about what you will do then and what you will not do now requires brainpower that animals don't have.
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Anonymous at Mon, 13 Jan 2025 23:53:59 UTC No. 16546629
>>16471650
Easiest way? Get paid to do what you're procrastinating and depend on it.
Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 00:33:13 UTC No. 16547779
I have a project I've been working on here and there for 2+ years (a video game project to be exact) that people want me to finish but as I am the primary person working on it and I have worked many many many hours on it I feel uninspired and exhausted
I feel anxiety thinking about working on it from the moment I wake up so I just don't work on it usually. It needs to get done but it feels like a sprawling project that always has bugs to finish and things to add
I am deeply desperate for a solution. Send suggestions/help. Thank You Sci
Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 15:51:23 UTC No. 16548321
>>16547779
I got some work on it done yesterday with the help of 5 hour energy and some beer
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Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 17:27:30 UTC No. 16550644
>>16547779
Install a browser extension called leechblock, and make a custom filter that will lock away literally any distracting activity you could possibly try to do while working on your project. Block 4chan, block youtube, block ANY and ALL social media, etc. You can set it up so that it will randomly generate a 64-character code you will need to input if you want to unlock it, and you can make it non-copyable as well. You should do this.
Once your custom filter is set up, all you need to do is decide what amount of time you're going to dedicate to your work and activate it accordingly (e.g. you want to work for one hour, you go on the settings and do "block everything from Filter 1 for 60 minutes).
Do this for some specific amount of time every day and i can almost guarantee you'll get at least something done. I used to employ this method to work on a job i hated and found extremely tedious despite almost certainly having some degree of undiagnosed ADHD (or whatever kind of executive dysfunction - i can absolutely relate to what you say about "the anxiety of thinking about working") so it is pretty effective.
Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 17:53:50 UTC No. 16550679
>>16451279
I literally procrastinate on eating to the point of unintentional weight loss
>>16550644
This extension is a piece of shit, but in the sense that it's mostly fucked if you found out you forgot to whitelist something important, and its temporary block lifting feature doesn't fucking work. Overly effective. I use it too.
Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 22:59:35 UTC No. 16551920
>>16550644
>>16550679
what if we can't even get out of bed to use the computer in the first place
Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 04:18:41 UTC No. 16553124
>>16551920
Make your bed boring. Leave your phone (along with any other electronic device such as a portable game console) charging on a table that's completely out of reach when you go to sleep so that you don't get the urge to procrastinate when you wake up.
Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 06:31:26 UTC No. 16553297
>>16451259
>everyone who procrastinates understands that it's completely irrational.
its actually the complete opposite
Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jan 2025 06:23:01 UTC No. 16554837
>>16451259
Procrastination is people exploring and deciding how to use their time and effort more efficiently, then deciding it's more economical to wait, considering current conditions. Sometimes it's a good judgement call, sometimes it's not.
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Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 05:00:48 UTC No. 16560896
>>16554837
it just means you have priorities that are not yet discernible
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Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 05:01:00 UTC No. 16562094
>>16451259
procrastination exists because we can modify our own utiliy function, duh. joscha bach solved this half a decade ago, pay attention
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Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:36:01 UTC No. 16566726
>>16451259
procrastination is easier and it's not scary
simple
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Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 19:29:02 UTC No. 16571500
>>16451279
>animals donβt procrastinate
what about cats?
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Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 16:02:30 UTC No. 16573293
>>16451259
it's simple; the reasoning behind why it's "irrational" is trivially corrupt and not doing something you are supposed to want to do but don't want to do is the actual rational choice, since as per good ole schoppi, we can do what we want, but we cant want what we want.
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Feb 2025 18:06:05 UTC No. 16573386
>>16550644
I tried to use the extension, if Im too tired to work I just refuse to do it and stare at the wall in frustration. There must be a better way how to achieve balance
ποΈ Anonymous at Mon, 3 Feb 2025 18:40:46 UTC No. 16574497
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Anonymous at Tue, 4 Feb 2025 01:19:22 UTC No. 16574958
>>16451279
Hmm. Are fixing one's health, finances, and procreating not basic needs?
Anonymous at Tue, 4 Feb 2025 15:27:17 UTC No. 16575407
>>16451259
I have an interesting anecdotal experience with procrastination I always found interesting. I had an old bed frame in my room that needed to be thrown away for over a year but I never got to it. I started chatting with a woman online who wanted to see me on facetime and by the next morning I had thrown that shit outside and cleaned up my room just for this person. Take from that what you will.
Anonymous at Tue, 4 Feb 2025 15:36:57 UTC No. 16575411
It's not irrational! Your subconscious is planning and simulating the activity and so when you do it it's much faster and more efficient. Duh!
ποΈ Anonymous at Thu, 6 Feb 2025 02:21:02 UTC No. 16576977
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Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 03:59:53 UTC No. 16578130
>>16451259
I'm gonna open this thread to read later
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Feb 2025 10:45:18 UTC No. 16578305
Brain waves.
Certain brain waves need more effort to obtain (focus, drive, etc) while the deault waves need no effort (cruise control). Anxiety donΒ΄t allow to reach to the good brain waves.
Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 07:57:21 UTC No. 16580074
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Anonymous at Sun, 9 Feb 2025 11:00:03 UTC No. 16580176
>>16578305
Yes
ποΈ Anonymous at Tue, 11 Feb 2025 05:06:05 UTC No. 16582170
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Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 10:32:56 UTC No. 16587751
>>16542018
Yeah I like the analogy to time value of money. Procrastination is a yielding of long term goals to short term ones- nobody procrastinates something that will give them a reward right away. But long term goals are inherently uncertain because you might die tomorrow.
ποΈ Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:54:54 UTC No. 16589261
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Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 15:50:30 UTC No. 16589292
>>16498485
What are the best foods to eat to promote healthy gut bacteria?
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 15:52:01 UTC No. 16589296
>>16478913
>Task Aversiveness
>Prioritization of Short-Term Mood
I think these apply to me the most. What're the best ways to overcome these pernicious roadblocks?
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 01:29:41 UTC No. 16589749
>>16589296
You used up your brain making big words, and there's nothing left for big actions.
ποΈ Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 18:08:38 UTC No. 16593244
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Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 20:11:10 UTC No. 16593675
>>16571500
What are a cat's responsibilities?
ποΈ Anonymous at Sat, 22 Feb 2025 07:47:25 UTC No. 16596012
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Anonymous at Fri, 28 Feb 2025 01:06:23 UTC No. 16601538
>>16451259
I procrastinate masturbation, going to sleep, and waking up.
ποΈ Anonymous at Sat, 1 Mar 2025 09:08:57 UTC No. 16602567
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Anonymous at Sun, 2 Mar 2025 21:21:06 UTC No. 16604399
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ποΈ Anonymous at Wed, 12 Mar 2025 06:28:33 UTC No. 16616570
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ποΈ Anonymous at Wed, 12 Mar 2025 11:58:47 UTC No. 16616774
>shitfield
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Mar 2025 14:01:19 UTC No. 16616851
>>16611439
Fuck, it's so over.
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Mar 2025 10:03:11 UTC No. 16617693
>>16451259
A lot of what has been said already is true, but I think some people are missing the adrenaline and thrill that comes with elevated stakes. If I study multiple weeks in advance, then my chances of passing are high. If I start studying 3 days before the exam (or even later), now it's risky. If I don't do everything in my power in those few days, I fail. It's on. You lock in. And so you work tirelessly in that short period of time.
So procrastination is kind of like gambling. You can get addicted to the rush. And when you pass despite the "self-imposed" constraints, you feel great. Immense relief. The satisfaction is arguably much higher than seeing the fruits of your consistent labor.
In other words, you won't be able to combat procrastination by just removing distractions or trying to "think rationally about it". What you really need is to learn to get your ass moving even when the stakes aren't high.
t. chronic procrastinator who's addicted to it
ποΈ Anonymous at Sun, 16 Mar 2025 00:24:36 UTC No. 16620196
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Anonymous at Sun, 16 Mar 2025 04:14:49 UTC No. 16620367
>>16574958
They are not. The experiment is fairly simple:
>stop breathing for ten minutes
>stop thinking about how to pay bills for 10 minutes
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Anonymous at Sat, 29 Mar 2025 00:56:15 UTC No. 16631423
>>16631394
Good thinking, I'll touch grass and do some exercise tomorrow
ποΈ Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 08:50:05 UTC No. 16632339
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Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 09:08:44 UTC No. 16632345
>>16451259
Here is my recepie to prevent procrastination:
1. Medications:
methylphenidate + atomoxetine + guanfacine + amphethamine + escitalopram.
2. Life style:
first step:
create social bonds with succesful people.
second step:
study with succesful people.
third step:
learn how to study by yourself.
forth step:
stonks.
fifth step:
balance study and gaming
study and socialize morning and evening
game night
Use melatonine to not procastinate sleeping.
Wake up at morning 6 and go to school.
sixth step:
go to library to study.
stay at home for gaming.
go to lessons for socializing.
3. Foods
Eat salmon 2 times a week.
ποΈ Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:03:46 UTC No. 16633730
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