EBOK at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 15:24:15 UTC No. 16452272

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 15:26:32 UTC No. 16452276

>>16452261
>>one of the greatest mathematicians of the 20th century
name one thing she's done besides Noether's theorem

EBOK at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 15:26:43 UTC No. 16452278

I struggle to maintain the fact it is what it is.

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 15:30:06 UTC No. 16452283

>>16452276
You're either trolling or haven't done any algebra further than matrix multiplication. Modern algebra as we know it is her and Artin.

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 15:34:52 UTC No. 16452287

>>16452261
My biological psychology professor suggested it was prenatal exposure to testosterone. I bet you 9/10 her ring finger : index finger ratio was very mannish

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 15:41:09 UTC No. 16452296

>>16452283
name one thing in algebra due to her

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 16:43:43 UTC No. 16452385

>>16452261
>greatest female mathematician of all times
>doesn't even rank among the top 50

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 16:56:17 UTC No. 16452398

>>16452296
Much of the theory of rings. Fundamental to algebraic geometry and algebraic number theory.

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:16:31 UTC No. 16452426

>>16452385
Name 50 20th century mathematicians whose contributions to mathematics were more substantial than hers. Go ahead, I'll wait.

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:18:18 UTC No. 16452430

>>16452287
>>16452261
what kind of cope is this? there's already only like one or two other great female mathematicians, why are you this fragile?

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:19:54 UTC No. 16452431

>>16452261
Would. She'd have to keep the bow tie on thoughbeit.

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:39:01 UTC No. 16452448

>>16452430
She is the only great mathematician

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:42:13 UTC No. 16452455

>>16452426
Von Neumann, Atiyah, Grothendieck, Cartan, Poincare, Minkowski, Singer, Kac, Ito, Weyl, Weil, Teichmüller, Hilbert, Turing, Gödel, Gentzen, Post, Skolem, Maclane, Eilenberg, Steenrod, Seiberg, Selberg, Witten, Lichnerowicz, Church, Kodaira, Wiles, Serre, Thom, Bott, Hausdorff, Klein, Erdös, Milnor, Smale, Chow, Chern, Chevalley, Dieudonne, Dynkin, Pontryagin, Gromov, Kolmogorov, Kontsevich, Nash, Conway, Deligne, Mumford, ...

Oh fuck, you're right. Without using the internet I can only come up with 49 from my memory.

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:45:59 UTC No. 16452467

>>16452455
Don't forget about artin, the real creator of abstract algebra

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:48:51 UTC No. 16452472

>>16452455
There are a number of people on your list whose work depends on Noether's work.

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:51:30 UTC No. 16452482

>>16452472
There are people whose works depend on works, that were found out by chinese, indians, mayas and greeks independently. So on whose works they are more based on?

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:53:04 UTC No. 16452486

>>16452398
those are trivial contributions

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:53:26 UTC No. 16452489

>>16452482
>>16452486
You are both morons.

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:56:18 UTC No. 16452496

>>16452455
congratulations on listing 49 mathematicians anon. Too bad you couldn't list 49 more important than Noether, though. We'll get 'em next time.

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:56:36 UTC No. 16452497

>>16452489
I just tell you that contributions made by her were almost obvious by the time when she lived. If she didn't discover it, it could be discovered independently by other people.

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:57:51 UTC No. 16452502

>>16452496
This post smells with estrogen

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 20:19:23 UTC No. 16452699

>>16452496
Hilbert alone could have been named 50 times. He contributed to virtually every field of mathematics. He even derived the Einstein-Hilbert action independently of Einstein and provided a rigorous mathematical justification for quantum mechanics parallel to leading physicists of his time. We call them Hilbert spaces for a fucking reason.

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 22:00:39 UTC No. 16452857

>>16452455
>Maybe if I list enough mathematicians it'll throw them off... Yeah, that should it.
No, anon, Atiyah, Minkowski, Singer, Kac, Ito, Weyl, Teichmüller, Turing, Gentzen, Post, Skolem, Seiberg, Selberg, Witten, Lichnerowicz, Church, Kodaira, Wiles, Thom, Bott, Klein, Erdös, Milnor, Smale, Chow, Chern, Chevalley, Dieudonne, Dynkin, Gromov, Kontsevich, Nash, Conway, Deligne, Mumford did not in fact contribute more than Noether did. And the contributions of about ~half of those would not have been possible (in the sense that they came to be) without her shaping of modern algebra.
>>16452482
The distance between her work and theirs is much smaller than that of theirs and the Greeks, her ideas are direct antecedents.
>>16452467
Artin worked with her, not by himself.
>>16452699
No one is diminishing Hilbert's contributions. He could possibly be named the greatest mathematician of the 20th century and the last universalist. But Noether did a lot too.

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 22:46:10 UTC No. 16452905

>>16452497
Agreed she's overrated as fuck. The math equivalent to Marie Curie

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 22:48:57 UTC No. 16452908

>>16452261
It is very obvious in this thread who has never read a book on commutative algebra.

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Oct 2024 23:19:19 UTC No. 16452936

>>16452908
or invariant theory or central simple algebras or algebraic number theory. Pearls before swine, anon.

Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 01:51:49 UTC No. 16453091

>>16452857
He could do it by himself or other researcher. Artin> noether

Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 09:40:29 UTC No. 16453383

>Noether over Weyl

Okay lets actually bring numbers to this. I'm going to use wikipedia because I'm lazy, and also just use namesakes, though Stigler's law may apply to some degree, lets just assume that the number of "Stigler" namesakes for Noether is equal to Weyl's "Stigler" namesakes. Lets see who actually did more here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_named_after_Emmy_Noether

Emmy Noether:

17 contributions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_named_after_Hermann_Weyl

Hermann Weyl:

73 contributions not including Weyl notation

Weyl wins by 56 contributions

If we are gonna compare mathematicians, lets do it numerically.

Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 09:41:36 UTC No. 16453384

>>16453383
Whoops, meant to reply to:
>>16452857

Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 10:26:53 UTC No. 16453398

>>16453383
While I agree that Weyl is debatable, you do realise that most of Weyl's non-physical work has been in group and representation theory, a field that Noether and her cohort (which included Weyl) shaped? It's not about how many things one has named after themselves, it's about the scope, depth, and pervasiveness of the ideas introduced. I won't go so far as to say Weyl's work wouldn't have been possible without Noether's (he was a colleague, not a student), but it's certainly of a piece and on the same continuum.

Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 11:05:05 UTC No. 16453417

>>16453398
By this retarded logic, Newton and Leibniz are better mathematicians than Cauchy and Weierstraß, which is just laughably wrong.

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 12:12:31 UTC No. 16454678

>>16452261
without her, einstein wouldnt have done shit.
and Im not putting that in his mouth, he said so.

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 13:56:31 UTC No. 16454746

>>16452296
Noether

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 14:00:57 UTC No. 16454749

>>16453383
>17
Yes? So you are wrong

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 14:51:07 UTC No. 16454800

>>16454749
I'm sorry, but are you functionally retarded?

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 15:44:49 UTC No. 16454852

>>16452261
If you're trying to say that tomboys are gay you need to leave right fucking now.

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 18:38:20 UTC No. 16455049

>>16453383
>judging quantity instead of quality
Whew lad. If you wanna go math mode define a space and its measure first. Just using positive integers isn't cutting it.

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 19:04:37 UTC No. 16455091

>>16452261
My mom had shoulder pads too, glad that is out of fashion

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 11:29:30 UTC No. 16455765

>>16455049
How do we quantify quality anon?

>Just using positive integers isn't cutting it.

You're right, I rate Noether a 83-34i+9j+97k out of 100+100i+100j+100k

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 12:11:26 UTC No. 16455787

>essentially a man in a skirt

porn has rotted your brain. women dressed conservatively back then. She looks like a completely normal woman. Or maybe you're used to trannies caked in cosmetics and forgot that women can look female without effort

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 17:15:37 UTC No. 16456013

>>16454678
>einstein owes relativity to theory to someone named "no ether"
can't make this shit up
>>16455091
did you mom also have a face like alfonse capone, because noether did

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 17:57:42 UTC No. 16456051

>>16452497
This. Women are not smart.

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 18:09:26 UTC No. 16456061

>>16452497
noether made no further contributions after max noether died. he's probably the one who came up with the theorem proofs and just passed it along to his daughterson who could scam fame and and a cushy academic position, which as a bonus subverts the hard sciences by forcing them to have a "woman" in their ranks.

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 18:17:36 UTC No. 16456071

>>16455765
Based on which metric?
>>16456013
>no ether
God dammit lol

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 18:21:45 UTC No. 16456074

>>16456051
You're right. If they were smart, they would be begging for my seed.

Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 09:01:26 UTC No. 16456762

>>16452283
Maybe that's why modern algebra makes no fucking sense