Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 21:42:56 UTC No. 16454034

Since true statements require a language to be made, this is affirmed.
There's a multitude of things that were true before language was discovered, but they can all be defined by language now. Since anything true before language can be true after language, this is affirmed.

Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 21:47:57 UTC No. 16454041

>>16454034
That means we have an experience of how things ought to be though

Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 23:21:57 UTC No. 16454142

>>16454041
I am experiencing that you ought to explain

Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 23:38:03 UTC No. 16454152

>>16454041
Is it true I ought to not kiss your girlfriend?

Anonymous at Mon, 28 Oct 2024 23:44:41 UTC No. 16454159

>>16454034
For a thing to be true, it requires the possibility to be wrong. For it to be wrong, it requires the possibility of either questioning or affirming its state, which then implies a pre-existing language. Before language, a thing wasn't true or false, it merely was. The question is weird, dumb, and poorly articulated.

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 01:13:52 UTC No. 16454265

>>16454142
If a language appears at a certain time, statements in the language are true before they have been thought of. However, that also means that the language ought to have always been structured that way in order, to, not waste time, in making the new language.
>>16454152
It depends what rule you want to follow.

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 01:17:27 UTC No. 16454268

>>16454159
Before language it was true that if you ate an apple you might live if you ate lava you might not

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 01:23:56 UTC No. 16454277

>>16454265
Cool cool, ping ponging some thoughts back. Maybe the same thought said a different way: languages that have words and ideas that other languages don't.

Languages having to start somewhere, only a few words.

Yes languages starting by being a label for every unique thing found in nature: tree, hill, mountain, river, ocean, lightning, sun, moon, girl, woman, wheat, cow, milk, cheese

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 01:25:21 UTC No. 16454280

>>16454265
>It depends what rule you want to follow
I thought your thesis is there is only 1 rule, the explicitly given all encompassing truth.

Do you know if it is false for me to kiss your girlfriend or true

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 02:25:29 UTC No. 16454330

>>16454280
hmm, tell me more about this girlfriend? what if you got me a separate one that only i kissed, and we each had one?

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 02:28:11 UTC No. 16454335

>>16454277
A language that didn't introduce negation until there was a language for every negation for example.

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 02:30:36 UTC No. 16454338

>>16454268
You make no sense. Before language if a creature would attempt to eat lava it would've died. No one, no thing would have told the tale and discussed shits. There is no before language blablabla. You can write it down but it relates to nothing. It is purely imaginary.

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 02:48:08 UTC No. 16454358

>>16454330
>hmm, tell me more about this girlfriend? what if you got me a separate one that only i kissed, and we each had one?
Would the absolute timeless truth facts of language tell you it would be true or false for me to go to your house when your not home and cook your girlfriend a very nice meal and give her flowers and then give her a massage in a bubble bath and then leave before you got home and told her not to tell

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 02:49:07 UTC No. 16454361

>>16454358
If you want the fourwheeler just say so

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 02:58:27 UTC No. 16454372

>>16454338
>if a creature would attempt to eat lava it would've died.
True or false?

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 03:35:23 UTC No. 16454401

>>16454027
a language*

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 04:01:07 UTC No. 16454417

>>16454034
Depending on how you define language, statements can come before language was discovered. In fact you kinda have to make a statement to discover language, no?