Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 02:15:56 UTC No. 16454325

>>16454301
P2X is probably the best way to manage inconsistent renewables. Certainly not hydrogen though

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 02:25:11 UTC No. 16454328

Pump liquid hydrogen through pipes? Do you have any idea how difficult that would be?

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 22:39:49 UTC No. 16455354

>>16454328
Not OP but you migt make syngas and pump that into the existing pipelines that were deployed for gas production.

Anonymous at Tue, 29 Oct 2024 22:45:25 UTC No. 16455360

>>16455354
Nooooooooooooooooo! Must be hydrogen, for, uh reasons.

Of course we need a metric shit ton of government grants to, uh, develop the infrastructure.

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 11:28:42 UTC No. 16455762

>>16455360
Hydrogen is a real pain, look up hydrogen embrittlement.

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 12:29:25 UTC No. 16455794

>>16454301
Why not promote and build a decentralized grid of renewable energy where by all commercial and residential roofs are solar panels and small wind turbines on all homes as well for wind capture. You could use solid state batteries to store the energy on site or just put the fire batteries in a shed in the yard for safety. This cuts 70-90% of the overheard in industrial scale wind/solar and eliminates the need for costly power lines which require extensive maintenance.

No, not sell power to the grid like current home solar works, make the power on site, store it on site, and us it on site. There is ZERO NEED to transport energy. It can all be made on site, at each home, for pennies on the dollar, with minimal maintenance, and literally no moving parts in the case of pure solar. For $10,000 most homes can install solar and a battery bank to handle 90% of all their power needs and if you get rid of stupid shit like electric cooking and hair dryers you need even less power. Most people are asleep or using minimal power after sundown.

The reason the above will never happen is huge corporations can't profit off it. If you buy $10,000 worth of gear and have no power bill for the next 15 years....well the economy will collapse. It just will. So they won't allow that. Instead they lie and make these huge industrial scale projects because they can make more money up front and afterwards via maintenance. They can create jobs to maintain these things and in Colorado where I lived they have one of the largest wind turbine factories in the world. Workers walk miles a day just walking around the factory. Thousands of people are employed making these turbines that don't really work like they are supposed to.

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 12:37:44 UTC No. 16455795

>>16455794
Did you know you can print carbon fiber infused wind turbine blades for your home on a 3D printer? All you need to capture electricity from the fluid movements in our atmosphere is a Permanent Magnet Generator and a 3D printer. No you don't need a professional to install solar either. It's literally plug and play.

You don't even need professionals to install solar/wind at your house. If you're a cry baby fake man who's afraid of working on a roof then sure, but technically speaking it's simple and straight forward. Just don't grab both ends of a charged battery or stick your dick into the MC4 connector and you'll be just fine.

When you eliminate needlessly wasteful things like electric cooking you'd be suprised how low your daily power needs are. Modern electronics run on scraps of energy compared to the past. A laptop uses 15-20 watts vs 400-1000 watts of a desktop. My 27 inch gaming monitor uses like 40-50 watts and all modern LED lights are 2-10 watts max and bright as shit. Electric heat and cooking via electricity is such a wasteful retarded thing to do on top of the fact that cooking with gas is a better way to cook food anyway. I do all my cooking with propane and it costs me next to nothing.

But you see we are consumers and if we don't spend 24/7 consuming then our masters won't be getting paid so it's not allowed. If we all reverted to decentralized power grids we become ungovernable. No smart meters, no control, no leverge over your head to comply with tyranny and so forth. They want you weak and dependant on them as much as possible so the real solution is hidden from you.

The real solution is small scale renewables at every home and every business TO INCLUDE A BATTERY BANK CAPABLE OF STORING ALL THE NEEDS OF THE BUILDING....this means no more power companies and no more raising rates, no more dividends for the elites and the unwashed masses are now free to think and speak how they desire. many such cases.

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 15:48:26 UTC No. 16455928

>>16455794
>>16455795
Welcome to California.

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 15:53:37 UTC No. 16455935

>>16455794
>>16455795
Every grid tie system should have a battery, but any size will do. That way you can still use your solar panels during outages.

Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 03:24:49 UTC No. 16456610

>>16455354
The energy density of hydrogen is 8.5MJ/L while the energy density of LNG is 23MJ/L, almost 3 times more.
You will need to triple the number of pipelines.
And they will last much less because hydrogen destroys everything it touches.

Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 03:25:51 UTC No. 16456611

>>16456610
Energy density of liquid hydrogen*

Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 03:26:53 UTC No. 16456614

How come those offshore wind farms kill so many whales?

Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 03:28:24 UTC No. 16456617

>>16455795
Start a company that installs the full package you describe. The free market will speak.

If such a company would not be allowed to succeed, the market is not free.

Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 03:19:52 UTC No. 16457727

>>16454301
Is he stupid?

Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 03:52:42 UTC No. 16457747

>>16456614
They are staffed by Norwegians

Stop guessing start learning at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 03:56:43 UTC No. 16457753

>>16454301
>they are doing it wrong

Says the keyboard genius living with his parents

Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 13:11:57 UTC No. 16458119

>>16455794
>government promoting decentralization
you are a fool

Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:57:58 UTC No. 16458251

>>16454301
>theyre doing it wrong.
Indeed.
They should taking the power they generate and beem it to the mainland with lasers.

Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 14:59:18 UTC No. 16458252

>>16455794
You need a stable frequency on the grid and with that a stable load or able to ramp up and ramp down production quickly.