Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 17:00:04 UTC No. 16455994

>>16455990
The official policy of the government of China is that the Han are a different species from the rest of humanity so this proves nothing other than to strengthen the Chinese belief in Han differentiation from everyone else.

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 17:00:07 UTC No. 16455995

>>16455990
OYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 17:06:53 UTC No. 16456001

>>16455990
Lucy, the fossil from Ethiopia, is over 3 million years old, how does a 300.000 skull in China compare?

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 17:15:25 UTC No. 16456012

>>16456001
Lucy is an Australopithecus, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about in this topic. Why don't you at least get up to speed with what wikipedia has to say on this topic before you start spouting off and proudly displaying your total ignorance. High school kids know more about this than you do. Are you sure you're mature enough to be posting on 4chan?

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 17:16:15 UTC No. 16456016

>>16456012
>you clearly have no idea what you're talking about in this topic.
The irony.

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 18:24:38 UTC No. 16456083

>>16455990
If not all humans originate from Africa then what does that even mean? What does it mean that evolution converged to a humankind more than once in more than one place? Is that supposed to support some sort of intelligent design narrative?

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 18:28:39 UTC No. 16456089

Lucy is basically a chimpanzee

>>16456083
The best hypothesis is "assimilation" which is that Europe and Asia were filled with creatures that weren't quite human and some group may have started breeding for intellectual ability and out of them came humans.

Do the big think and wonder how "modern humans" came out of Africa if Neanderthal were intebreedable and already living in Europe for tens of thousands of years.

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 18:40:03 UTC No. 16456110

>>16456089
I took assimilation for granted. I didn't know it was a thing to believe that humans became the modern species before they migrated to other continents.

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 18:49:21 UTC No. 16456116

>>16456110
The "official story" of human evolution is that there was a first "out out Africa" 300,000 or 500,000 something years ago, of bipedal mammals traveling across Eurasia and then a second "Out of Africa" that happened maybe 70,000 years ago and THOSE were modern humans.
I don't trust the official story in part because this official explanation is apparently crafted to be misleading ("it's definitely out of Africa no matter if it was 70,000 or 700,000 years ago").
Assimilation makes more sense but of course "out of Africa" is the secular equivalent of "all men were created equal" so it's going to remain unchallenged in academia. When it comes to Africa you can't exactly rely on what makes sense genetically, or you lose your job.

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 18:57:43 UTC No. 16456121

>>16455990
>Out of Africa theory
made up shit
>China
probably made up shit
>>16455994
>Han are a different species from the rest of humanity
that i may believe

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 19:26:03 UTC No. 16456132

>>16455990
Modem humans originated about 250 years ago in America.

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 19:33:21 UTC No. 16456140

>>16456012
>Lucy is an Australopithecus,
Thats a human ancestor, proves humans come from africa.

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 19:35:53 UTC No. 16456143

>>16456116
>"all men were created equal"
This doesn't make sense even in the official story as you describe. Even in an inbred family there's genotypical and phenotypical diversity and therefore diversity in capability including making the best of your environment. Therefore, after humans spread out all over the world, even in places with similar circumstances like having some potential farm animals around to create abundance and free time to develop culture, science and technology, there's was still diversity in the rate at which humans were capable to develop. Still there have been many empires all over the world before we ended up in current declining Western hegemony. Or in less flattering words: I guess it's true that ancient niggers were a lot more civilized than modern niggers therefore it does seem more up to chance than to genes.

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 19:36:01 UTC No. 16456144

>>16456140
Multicellular life existed globally before Australopithecus.

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 20:01:55 UTC No. 16456176

>>16456143
It doesn't need to make sense.
>"everyone came from Noah's ark" oh great now we're all brothers from God
>"everyone came from Africa" oh great now we're all brother's in Africa
Science is posh and racism isn't posh therefore science can't be racist therefore black people and white people can't be inherently differences. The actual differences between races might be minor but it's basically forbidden to look into the matter. So "everyone is from Africa" so says "official science" until you dig even slightly into the matter. Mainstream science is full of false fronts like this where the official story is stupid but it's promoted because the public can understand it.
In reality what actually may have happened with humans might have been something as simple as understanding the benefit of doing something difficult like sailing. Something that conferred a benefit must have demanded intelligence, and then intelligence started getting checked for in reproduction.

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 20:07:13 UTC No. 16456186

>>16456144
Far as I know there is no "great apes originated in multiple places" hypothesis.
>>16456116
>"out of Africa" is the secular equivalent of "all men were created equal"
Depends how you look at it. Some humans did a lot of escaping from Africa (actually folded several times over) and some didn't.

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 20:30:33 UTC No. 16456214

>>16456176
The deconstruction of scientific narratives is another wave of Nietzsche's God is dead. It's interesting that you mention sailing as an example because what is intelligence other than navigation? An intelligent system utilizes perception, cognition and abstraction to create a model of its current circumstances, its desired circumstances and risk/reward simulations of different routes from current to desired.

Evolution of intelligence requires selection by and for complexity. That begs the question: what were these more complex circumstances that required more complex intelligence? Other questions are about how the ability to abstract is even possible in a physical world (which is a variant of debates about the philosophy of consciousness).

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 21:24:28 UTC No. 16456283

>>16456214
ChatGPT wrote wrote this post

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 21:48:40 UTC No. 16456297

>>16456283
Atheists are midwit NPCs, they are predictable in the same way robots are, they all have the same common modes of thought, they all try to adopt mortals as infallible gods (in this case scientists) when they try to reject the actual real God.
And they all can't resist their midwit psychological projection instincts. Literally nobody was thinking "God is dead" when they saw that the new findings contradicted the assertions based on previous less complete set of evidence, nobody except the atheists. God is eternal and immortal, it is predictable that mankind's understanding of reality is less than God's and that we will always be misreading evidence and making other mistakes. Thats why erasers were invented, God might not need them, but scientists certainly do.
The whole scientific premise is based on the idea that scientists are going to make mistakes, thats why science is required to be constructed in disprovable form

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 21:54:17 UTC No. 16456307

>>16456283
>>16456297
You have not made a single argument against anything I wrote. It's clear now that in every area where people pretend to have learned from mistakes they actually mean that they can't suppress unwanted narratives any longer that were known to have more merit al along.

Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 04:49:15 UTC No. 16456660

>>16455994
>the Chinese belief in Han differentiation from everyone else.
Its good that they recognize that they are different from and inferior to whites and its funny how they destroyed all of their native culture and architecture in an effort to remodel their country after white nations. They're even trying to make a Chinese version of Starship now too lol.

Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 10:21:55 UTC No. 16456797

>>16455994
>government of China is that the Han are a different species from the rest of humanity

Yeah, species of insects.

Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 10:25:05 UTC No. 16456799

>>16456012
I want a skull like australopithecus so I can mog all who observe me in the tradition of gigachad

Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 14:45:59 UTC No. 16456990

>>16456799

Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 00:07:17 UTC No. 16457576

>>16455990
>china
>paleontology
Same vibes.

Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 03:12:06 UTC No. 16457721

>>16456176
>science is posh
Found the philistine chav. If you weren't the descendant of perpetual illiterates, you'd compute the genetic distances with PCA maps yourself and find that Asians, Eurasians, and Africans are (surprise, suprise) orthogonal to each other. This is not controversial and only considered samizdat by /pol/tards because they don't know basic linear algebra.

Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 03:35:37 UTC No. 16457733

>>16456116
every person I've met that talks about out of Africa like this anon has also been dumb as shit

Anonymous at Fri, 1 Nov 2024 11:12:19 UTC No. 16458022

>>16456132
that the jews and their freemason golem

Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 03:27:44 UTC No. 16459255

>>16456176
yep, 'out of africa' is just another atheist rewrite of a biblical tale in godless science terminology, same as the big bang, same as evolution.

Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 18:40:29 UTC No. 16459864

>>16455994
So how do they explain how the Han Chinese can have fertile offspring with people that are not Han?

Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 20:52:30 UTC No. 16460015

>>16459864
By using their own set of definitions and seeing the offspring as an abomination.

Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 22:02:40 UTC No. 16460083

>>16456089
>some group may have started breeding for intellectual ability
What? And who?

Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 22:08:00 UTC No. 16460092

>>16459864
cia propaganda

Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 22:08:05 UTC No. 16460093

>>16455990
Who the fuck is this retard?

Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 22:15:04 UTC No. 16460102

>>16456799
For me, it is the sagittal crest.

Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 23:09:01 UTC No. 16460196

>>16456307
>That begs the question: what were these more complex circumstances that required more complex intelligence?

There's no rule in evolution that says certain traits can only arise under certain circumstances. It could be one freak mutation that gave certain individuals a huge competitive advantage.

Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 05:10:59 UTC No. 16460571

>>16456116
>evolution
i was digging recently into McCarthy stabilization theory and that make a lot more of sense

Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 05:42:29 UTC No. 16460594

>>16460093
I think that's Ryan Higa / NigaHiga some chink who was popular on YouTube like 15 years ago

Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 06:15:01 UTC No. 16460609

>>16455990
watch them use this as cause to invade their neighbors lol

Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 23:32:34 UTC No. 16461541

The out of Africa theory makes sense because who in their right mind would want to live in Africa? Even Africans are doing everything they can to leave the place.

Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 00:11:08 UTC No. 16461577

>>16461541

As usual (but to a far greater extent in this case), the problem is not the place, but the people. The black people. A civilization of whatever other racial makeup can sustain itself and continue to develop so long as the black population stays under 20% or so (although more than 5% black in any given area becomes a major drag). Once a given area is around 25% to 30% black, that's the point when Things Fall Apart (heh).

Some black people who honestly want to improve their lot in life instinctively know that they need to get away from other black people. However, I acknowledge that it's a psychic drag for anyone to be around large numbers of people who aren't like you and who don't look like you, even if this massively raises your quality of life.

Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 21:02:38 UTC No. 16462659

>>16461541
>Even Africans are doing everything they can to leave the place.
Thats the bantu expansion moving on the other continents
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantu_expansion

Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 22:00:41 UTC No. 16462745

>>16456660
Ancient Chinese philosophy is so rich and full of incredible insight, then the commies shat all over it and called it progress.

Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 22:42:34 UTC No. 16462788

>>16461577
Evolution only progresses when the top 1%, the true positive aberrations, can segregate from the base population. Migratory behavior in early hominids was probably driven by the more evolved wanting to get the fuck away from the lower intellects out of sheer frustration. Back in the day, there was all the Earth to spread into, lebensraum, but with modern global transportation technology, there are far fewer fertile regions left uninfected by the subhumans trying to tag along with their superiors.

Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 22:49:33 UTC No. 16462794

>>16462788
The original White flight took place 300,000 years ago? Holy kek!

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 01:56:34 UTC No. 16462985

>>16455990
no shit the Chinese were here first

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 01:58:30 UTC No. 16462988

>the top 1%
the British

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 18:28:36 UTC No. 16463883

>>16456016
>no u
I accept your concession.