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Anonymous No. 16456486

scientifically speaking, what is the root cause of homosexuality?

Anonymous No. 16456494

>>16456486
This is the result of trauma and nobody helping you or calling you a retard for thinking like this

Anonymous No. 16456495

>>16456486
Too much estrogen and not enough testosterone.
Estrogen everywhere - BPA plastics , plastic plates , cups , plastic food covers etc.

>estrogeneration by anthony jay
https://www.amazon.com/Estrogeneration-Estrogenics-Infertile-Chagrin-Paperback/dp/B0842TVTCC/ref=sr_1_2?sr=8-2

Anonymous No. 16456496

>>16456486
anime

Anonymous No. 16456525

>>16456486
There are probably different factors.
I do think there exists a predisposition to sexual deviancy that is genetic, like there's a genetic predisposition to practically anything, mental illness and such. It could manifest in different forms. It could genuinely be that the person will inevitably develop a sexual deviation during puberty, it could be that the predisposition has to be "triggered" by something like molestation. If molestation was a root by itself then any boy who was molested would become gay, but obviously there are people who manage to stay straight even after such an experience because they're simply stronger genetically.
Environmental factors like estrogen exposure is also something that I agree might trigger homosexuality, and probably without even needing any genetic predisposition in person.

Anonymous No. 16456528

>>16456486
Visual exposure to BBC

Anonymous No. 16456533

>>16456528
*BWC

btfo tranny

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Anonymous No. 16456548

>>16456486
>scientifically speaking, what is the root cause of homosexuality?

Genetics.
Homosexuality is caused by a combination of something like 34-50 individual genes, carried over on 15 chromosomes inherited from your mother. The more of them you have the gayer you are. It's not actually simple, the interactions between these genes is quite complicated, but the explanation is rather "simple as".

I think you might also be asking, "what causes transgenderism".
Transgenderism, specifically gender dysphoria, is caused by brain swelling leading to discrepancies in cortical thickness. This swelling causes the brain's morphology to change and causes dysphoria - or the "feeling of being in the wrong body."

>Why doesn't anybody say this?

Because the overwhelming majority of participants in this dialogue turn into a bad-faith faggot; immediately shamelessly injecting their own personal biases and agenda into this discussion. I'm also going to "both sides" this because: right-leaning people think alphabet people are mentally ill, but then you press them on the matter, and they eventually reveal that they're using it as a vehicle for euthanasia. You talk to left-leaning people and it's just, "well, like, man, you can be whatever you want, dude." fucking useless feel-good apologetics bullshit.

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Anonymous No. 16456589

>>16456486
Judaism

Anonymous No. 16456650

>>16456486
After the female's body has pumped out a lot of children, there's just a higher chance of the genetics lining up in a way that produces something defective. The more children someone has, the more likely that one will be gay.
Along with all the other science on the subject, it seems like it's best explained as gays are genetic defects.
In previous cultures, gays would still be more likely to reproduce, because they weren't accepted as gays. Thus spreading their gay defects even more, which would sooner increase the chances of a gay child, before the natural defect point, due to having defective genes from the start.

Anonymous No. 16456664

>>16456486

Getting molested as a child. Every dyke and fag I've ever known all confessed at some point they were sexually abused.

Anonymous No. 16456667

>>16456548

Twin studies debunked genetic factors. Of course the tranime enjoyer is still pushing this debunked genetical nonsense.

Anonymous No. 16456673

>>16456667
No it doesn't.
All it does is show that it's not purely genetic factors. The twin studies show that it's 34%-39% explained by genetics, which is a lot. It just means that there's some other factors in biological development that contribute to gay/lesbian/bi children.

Anonymous No. 16456680

>>16456667
As another anon said it didn't debunk it, the takeaway ia literally that's it's just not the only factor.
I have said in my other post that I think there's a genetic predisposition to homosexuality emerging, rather than guaranteed homosexuality from a genetic factor. Basically most likely for the majority of cases there needs to be q certain trigger for homosexuality to emerge which can be something from straight up molestation, or something minor like a kid just not growing up in a very masculine environment.
One thing with molestation is that often the child gets molested because he already had some gay tendencies which he didn't understand at the time. Basically a kid or a teenager who is unraveling as a homosexual could me more vulnerable to manipulation by a male abuser, although statistical info about this is needed. As on overall reported molestation rate, it's like 35 or 40% I think. Which is a lot definitely.

Anonymous No. 16456682

>>16456548
Yeah I think genetics too, there's always that one kid that everyone knows will be gay from the moment he can speak

>>16456664
This is unfortunately another factor that is true. Not for all but certainly very common

>>16456667
>debunked
Peak retard

Anonymous No. 16456935

>>16456494
>>16456664

I also share this opinion, every rainbow person I got to know also confessed that there was such happening in their lives.

>>16456650
>>16456667
>>16456673
>>16456680

There are no known genetic factors for homosexuality, if they were we could crispr those out of our children while still in womb effectively curing a "genetic disorder" but we can't cuz we never found any gay/bi gene.

If there is evidence of latest children being gay more often than first borns it is likely due to external factors, I have a hypothesis that mothers usually spend more energy and time with their first borns while last children are usually neglected in comparison and that may be a factor for it.
Also just plain propaganda and need for human touch, I can easily imagine a lonely man struggle with finding a gf or even talking to girls, especially young men are sort of fragile when it comes to being rejected and at the same time rejection is kind of a norm for most young males, this might drive a person into conclusion that if they become gay they could find another lonely man and provide said touch and feel of belonging for each other.

Anonymous No. 16457113

>>16456486
Attention seeking and victim mentality.

Anonymous No. 16457427

Men want to have sex and feel love, alot, how much?

Men are more and less logical and rational.

Growing up throughout school and socialization, experiences with males, experiences with females.

A percentage of males are compelled to accept their satisfaction of needs with their own kind.

Anonymous No. 16457464

I'm bisexual because I'm obsessively curious and addicted to creative exploration, and to me sexuality is another medium of creative exploration.
I suspect that many straight supremacists have some sort of state of war going with their sexual imagination, and perhaps imagination in general that they project outwards on others.

Anonymous No. 16457476

Look at the average daily demands of the average woman.

Look at the average gay man.

They simply realize they are unable to be compatible.
So like some weird nature drone bee worker bee queen bee asexual hermaphrodite adaptation stuff occurs and the rest is history

Anonymous No. 16457480

>>16457427
>Men want to have sex and feel love, alot, how much?
If I had 10 wives I would want to spend on average 5 hours a day cuddling, massaging, steaming, bathing, frolicing and making love with each one

Anonymous No. 16457487

>>16456486
(You) are.

Anonymous No. 16457507

>>16457476
>Look at the average daily demands of the average woman.
>Look at the average gay man.
Occasionally you then do so a really cool really sweet woman who is dating a on the cusp potentially gay man saved by the divine feminine.

>>16457427
The reason one is compelled to think there may be something beyond physical attraction, though that is hard to deny if a male loves certain differences between body types, is out of all gay men, I must believe an amount of them are intelligent, and I must believe it would be very unintelligent for them to claim that penis in vagina feels bad

Anonymous No. 16457652

>>16456935
The incel to gay / tranny shit is a very modern and rare phenomena. Most gays just realized their dick goes up when they see shirtless men when they were like 12.
Just because we don't know specific genetic factors doesn't mean there aren't any. We still generally are shit at genetics. We currently can't even cure diseases that we know for a fact are genetic because genetic engineering is in a juvenile state.
Molestation makes sense as a trigger, but not as an underlying cause currently because statistically it's not even a half of gay people who report being molested. Yes, it's close to a half, and some of them might simply have not told, but more extensive research is needed, and it's unrealistic that literally every single person out of the 55-60% homosexuals who said they weren't molested is lying. Gay people are really open about it if it did happen, ffs one of the cliches about gay people is that a gay artist, like a filmmaker for example, will at least once make a movie that explorers this topic if they IRL have experienced it or interacted with a person who experienced it, which is not hard considering how tight knit homo communities are and the fact that 35 to 40% is still quite a lot.
Also, the molestation rates themselves don't say much, it would make more sense to conduct research into how many people report realising they're gay after molestation rather than how many adult gay people report say they were molested.
People who deny genetic factors literally just do it because they believe it contradicts an anti-homosexual position. Even tho one can just advocate for development of genetic engineering to cure people of genetic defects and include homosexuality in your list of genetic defects.

Anonymous No. 16457748

>>16457464
Relevance of submissive/ dominance, a straight man likely doesn't often marry a woman who could beat him in a fight. Reasons a straight man might be adverse to gay, guys are gross, it would be demasculating/humiliating to be intimate with a man stronger than you, so greatly prefer women.

Anonymous No. 16457754

>>16457476
>Look at the average daily demands of the average woman.
>Look at the average gay man.
Funnily enough a lot of the annoying demands are emotional and interested attention, something the gay man finds great friendship, interest and attraction to them with.

Besides dogs, a straight man's best friend is straight men, straight men love straight men just not sexually. Straight women love the emotionally available gossipy gay man. Straight man loves straight woman. Everyone loves everyone and everything is ok

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Anonymous No. 16457758

>>16456486
Incomplete masculinization of certain areas of the brain as a consequence of genetic factors and natal hormone exposure.

Also the Romans were right.

Anonymous No. 16457766

>>16457754
>>16457748
I just saw a lot of cool hot girls at Halloween and yeah I take everything back I've been out of the loop, but yeah there is at least growing up until one is confident and comfortable and assured as themself, a worried performativeness for the sake of your ladies judgement. Challenge of relations in general, fear of looking weak, fear of being ugly, fear of losing your woman's love.

Relationships are beautiful, saw a lot of 20s 30s folks on the dance floor, making out, grabbing ass, dancing very well, early 20s couples in perfect love, ecstatic, glowing, vibrating, pulsating with joy and perfection, selfies, group photos, beauties beauties, babes and bros, dancing scantily with smiles, dancing dancing dancing, happy happy love

Anonymous No. 16457777

>>16457766
The girls are very intimidating though, rejection is embarrassing, I saw a few I would have liked to dance with but was too scared, on my walk home I caught my reflection and understood why. I immediately made a Facebook post: looking for a girlfriend, must be fat ugly and dumb.

Anonymous No. 16457784

>>16457766
>20s couples in perfect love, ecstatic, glowing,
Absolutely incredible girl, stunning, all black tights suit liftle cat ears au natural elegant charming sweet looking, incredible, lioness jaguaress pumaess, maybe around 23 years old, ancient Roman sculpture body but not obscene as even some ancient greek rubenesque venuses can be, fit ideal astonishing, unbelievable (never used this term) figure, ideally sporty, she was rapt in love with an absolute utter dufus dweeb. Once he arrived they kind of drifted off and then I was just dancing in front of her 2 friends, who were very good dancers, there is such a creativity to what for an hour straight every so often come up with unique moves, and an athleticism and limberness of limbs, coordination, knees, ankles, feet, joints, twists, turns, patterns, slides, grooves, bops, bounces, what to do with your arms, they looked like they could have been in music videos, or grew up dancing or something its so impressive to see the humanity so close, of another person that so knows their body, that so loves life and their body, and can so in real time animate it so expressivly and artfully, so celebratory, so in tune, so in extasy, so in command, so confident, so excersizing, oh my god they were lovely, the one I often made mutually smiling sweet legal eye contact with looked like a Roman Egyptian princess, her shorter friend a dirty beach bum blonde brooklyner

Anonymous No. 16457837

Men are okay with providing for women who arent even virgins. In fact, men are even happy that the roastie who selected them has ridden the cock carousel. This is because everybody is born female. Men have the female spirit in a male body.
This is why men keep putting women on pedestal. Men live to compete and provide for women.
The ideal life for a man is to have the life of a woman: just by existing, coasting thru life, being adorned by numerous female orbiters devoted to him. They want the female life at all cost, ie having hundreds of vaginas simping for them, but at the same time a kernel of cuckoldry remains in that men still crave for pleasing those hundreds of vaginas. A man literally wants to give lots of free orgasms to every female looking at him KEK.
Then the same beta cucks build a narrative where somehow the betacuck is not a beta but an alpha male precisely for spending his life , his time and energy and money on entertaining women. The tranny spirit is devoted to women at all times and at all cost.

This makes 99% of the population female in mind and 50% female in body. Only very very few men manage to escape the female condition.

Anonymous No. 16458018

>>16456486

Gay men often have sex just for sex, none of the emotional drama that women have.

Anonymous No. 16458050

>>16456486
Male-to-male bonding. Its a form of submission when faced by a stronger male.

Anonymous No. 16458051

>>16456486
But I dont believe homosexuality exist. Just homosexual behaviour.

Anonymous No. 16458232

>>16457837
Truth

Anonymous No. 16458280

>>16457784
>her shorter friend a dirty beach bum blonde brooklyner
To be clear I was more compatible with her, maybe she was more my type, an organic artist, but the other gals had an awe inspiring aire of priestesslyness which I could not avoid being spellbound by

Anonymous No. 16458918

>>16457837
The soft comforting pleasures of woman are a very welcome sanctuary in the hard sharp tedious monotonous world of labors.

Woman is a warm ocean in which we dive and swim, clouds of pillows made of sunshine smiles, a harmonic chord cadence of completion, big soft round things are rare in nature, perfect stress releasing blankey.

Man roams earth as an incomplete puzzle yada yada timeless cliche tropes you complete me missing half. Such coupling is required for the history of life.
What is more enjoyable than making love, being accepted by the often intensely guarded woman, who opens her castle gates, sets the bridge across the moat, and invites you in, desires, demands you in, what in the world is better than the electronic sparkling flesh so speaking to one another, when alas all the world hushes down and there is just you 2 making timeless music on that most sacred instrument the body, how many buttons and notes there are, how many brilliant composers of luscious melodies.
When at last the hard angry mean world slips away and there is a soft divinity of blood and bone and breathing chest and beating heart in its place, and you are one with her and whole, and holistic and holy, and you are accepted, appreciated and loved by mother natures sweet daughter. Then yes I have yet to see any sticks or stones that compare.

Also besides desiring to make a woman feel good with orgasm as the prideful winning of a game, maybe instinctually one knows it will increase their odds of playing again.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16458947

>>16456486
the irresponsibility of throbbing, hard cocks

Anonymous No. 16458948

>>16456486
the irresistibility of throbbing, hard cocks

Anonymous No. 16459013

>>16458280
>her shorter friend a dirty beach bum blonde brooklyner
>To be clear I was more compatible with her, maybe she was more my type, an organic artist, but the other gals had an awe inspiring aire of priestesslyness which I could not avoid being spellbound by
To be clear, I am being silly, that blonde girl as well was out of my league and she is also preistessly, as any girl can be. Now understanding that sweet pure majesty of young women and religious rites, dressed in graceful garb, going through motions, but yes their elegance and beauty, and the sanctity of the well adorned environment, and the neglect of the grotesque outer world, how alluring and soul soothing and pep rally motivating for the pure path of uplifting spirits.

As a young boy of course maybe at times I did get this maybe at times I didn't, as less interested in the boring and more interested in the fast loud chaotic excitement, speed is a way to escape, if even the ever stillness of the present moment

Anonymous No. 16460617

>>16456486
lmao coping tranny
as a serious answer, genetic factors have been implicated in homosexuality
for trannies, one theory is that abnormal levels of estrogen/testosterone in the fetal brain lead to a strange in-between brain sexing despite how the body develops

Anonymous No. 16460643

>>16456486
Anal sex being terrific

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Anonymous No. 16461545

>>16456486

Not going to lie... WOULD

Anonymous No. 16461581

>>16456486
The queen of sci. For those who don't know, she used to post videos on yt talking about math topics like de rham cohomology, making various math jokes. I think she deleted her channel.

Anonymous No. 16461646

>>16456667
Nope, it is mostly genetic.

It is an inherited or meiotically damaged causality of human genetics.

It is not normal behavior and it is functionally an encoding error of DNA