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Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 07:18:01 UTC No. 16456714
why can't space bros do anything right?
https://www.iflscience.com/cosmic-d
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 07:48:49 UTC No. 16456730
>>16456714
>nips claiming the picture is wrong because the INTERPRETATION (not a concrete takeaway) they had from their own radio image (made with lesser resources) doesn't line up with EHT results
Or maybe Takeshi Miyagi Miyazaki just fucked up in their radio analysis / interpretation of it. Also wtf do they mean by saying that the accretion disc is elongated? The EHT picture doesn't show the entire accession disc anyway.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 20:30:09 UTC No. 16457362
>retard students that are not worth even bachelors in europe, just spews shit in their macbooks, uneducated people thing their image represent reality
Gee
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 20:32:30 UTC No. 16457365
She got the credit
Even he fought million lines of code
BUT HIS CODES SUCKED
WHAT NOw INCELS
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 20:57:41 UTC No. 16457382
I don't think they're saying the deconvolution algorithms were wrong (of which Katie Bouman's was one of four iirc.) They're saying the point spread function was wrong. Garbage in garbage out.
Stop guessing start learning at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 20:58:12 UTC No. 16457383
>>16456714
Bahahahahahahahaha.
I'm always arguing with science bros on here about black holes.
It's the dumbest science theory that has no value
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 21:20:52 UTC No. 16457408
Nope. There already already multiple independent reanalyses of the EHT data, all of the others found a result consistent with the published image. The most likely explanation is that Miyoshi fucked up his analysis, some of that is described here in that he forces to algorithm to recover structure on scales which aren't sampled. Does he show his result is repeatable with other codes? No. The EHT team did, with 3 different methods and it has been independently reproduced.
https://eventhorizontelescope.org/b
>>16457282
And here you are, blindly accepting a single paper because it agrees with your prejudice. It is literal confirmation bias, where you ignore all the other papers and pick the one you like. Don't lecture people about being gullible.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 21:22:56 UTC No. 16457412
>>16456714
Someone post that gif of the dancing orbs and their plasma spasms
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 21:36:05 UTC No. 16457423
>>16457408
Sounds like the science is settled and any who are not believers should be punished.
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 21:39:11 UTC No. 16457426
>>16457282
professor dave missing on this picture
Anonymous at Thu, 31 Oct 2024 22:32:39 UTC No. 16457500
>>16456730
you realize black holes can change their shape over time right?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 03:14:58 UTC No. 16459243
>>16457282
>save for a tiny minority of gullible low IQ retards
Those are the same people who thought the sausage pic was real just because some dude on Twitter said "i'm an astronomer and this is a JWST pic lol"
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Nov 2024 06:30:46 UTC No. 16459346
>>16456714
>tweak the algo
>it outputs a different PNG
/sci/ was right again
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 04:28:02 UTC No. 16460528
>>16457426
you can shoop him in
or just get AI to do it for you
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 08:11:39 UTC No. 16460672
>>16457423
this, but unironically
🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 23:39:37 UTC No. 16461550
>>16457365
Her changes to the font selections were key
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 03:00:13 UTC No. 16461709
>>16457423
this, WE NEED SOME MUSCLE OVER HERE!
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 03:58:31 UTC No. 16461768
>>16456714
>*space photo is not an accurate representation
https://odysee.com/@Realfake_Newsou
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 04:03:37 UTC No. 16461773
>>16456714
Space bros give the ick
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 04:52:35 UTC No. 16461803
>>16457408
Try learning english esl jeetskin
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Nov 2024 19:07:03 UTC No. 16462512
>>16461773
that woman is not very smart, giving away her test key like that.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 03:14:06 UTC No. 16463088
>>16457282
>Colorbarred
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 03:19:10 UTC No. 16463096
>>16459346
regardless that the soiyim goyims on this board will still keep on thinking that nasa's psychedelic colorful 'space' blob pics are real even though you can't see anything like them if you look through an actual telescope
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 11:54:16 UTC No. 16463444
probably this happened:
>attempt to collect some data of a black hole
>try putting it through 15 different math formulas and filters
>it spits out something resembling a black hole
>wow there it is, it's the black hole, publish it PUBLISH IT!
>forget to consider whether what you did even makes sense
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 14:57:37 UTC No. 16463584
>>16463096
but you can use existing tools to detect and reconstruct those images.
unlike the image of the black hole, which is radio noise filtered into a specific shape
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 17:44:53 UTC No. 16463833
I read this article thinking "man that sucks" then I realized it was like 3 japanese retards saying it and no one else.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 17:46:58 UTC No. 16463839
>>16457383
>I'm always arguing with science bros on here about black holes.
>doesn't even read the article to see how it's speculation of a couple nobodies saying it's off a little bit
You're literally retarded.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 05:25:44 UTC No. 16464465
>>16463839
>>16463833
>heh nicholas copernicus who? just some polish retard
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 13:54:19 UTC No. 16464914
>>16464465
>Jap Assistant Professor going to be huge for this
You're literally retarded.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 06:10:33 UTC No. 16465775
>>16459346
>hey this thing doesn't work right when I intentionally use it wrong!
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 10:36:09 UTC No. 16465899
>>16457383
black holes exist, anon. even if they didn't in nature, they could be artificially created.
the wacky theories about white holes, worm holes and such don't exist.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 13:24:44 UTC No. 16465964
>>16465899
>Could be artificially created
K. Go create one then. Until then they don't exist. No one has ever seen a black hole and no one has ever made one.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 13:54:14 UTC No. 16465987
>>16465964
>No one has ever seen a black hole
What the fuck do you think is in the picture of OP? What about the picture I just posted? It's a black hole leaving a trail of young blue stars behind it as it cruises through space. There are tons of images of gravitational lensing by black holes, x-ray ejections from blackholes, and other radiation created by them. You don't see the actual black hole because you literally can't, since the light is trapped but you can see it's effects around it.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 16:26:40 UTC No. 16466140
you literally can't take pictures like this from so far away. You'd need a lens the size of the solar system. It's clear the entire thing is not real.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 16:52:14 UTC No. 16466168
>>16465987
>can never actually see the thing, only artifacts from the thing
i've heard this one before
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 17:51:28 UTC No. 16466200
>>16466140
I don't know if you have been paying attention, but all they do is push their theories right into noise territories and then start divining for confirmation.
They are planning to do this with proton decay next.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 17:51:28 UTC No. 16466201
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 22:55:16 UTC No. 16466550
>hay you stupid goys, I have a picture of a black hole
>now gibes me another billions of dollars for muh welfare science funding free money
I thought black holes were so massive that no light can escape, how can they be claiming to have a picture of something that doesn't emit light? Of course its fake
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 01:22:54 UTC No. 16466655
>>16456714
>I_fucking_love_science.com
Kek'd
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 14:00:54 UTC No. 16467155
BASEDENCE SISTERS.
HOW COULD THIS BE HAPPENING TO US????
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 17:20:05 UTC No. 16467332
>>16466140
We have photos of exoplanets now. What the fuck are you talking about? And there are other types of radiation other than visible light.
>>16466168
You should have.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 15:25:48 UTC No. 16468332
>>16467332
>We have photos of exoplanets now.
>t. I thought the JWST sausage pic was real
you don't have photos of exoplanets.
those are just as fake as the fake black hole picture, you're just too ignorant of science and too gullible to figure out when you're being lied to
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:05:34 UTC No. 16468365
>>16465987
>What the fuck do you think is in the picture of OP?
he still has a point. heavily inferred images are not pictures of the thing. unfortunately there is no clear dividing line between artificial and natural images; I, personally, would not even consider the false-color images of nearby objects like Mars as 'images of the thing'. an image is only something that shows what I would see with my own eyes. false-color and statistically constructed "images" are useful, but in this age of total distrust they should be called something else or at least clearly watermarked with "NOT A REAL IMAGE".
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:53:19 UTC No. 16468399
>>16468332
>you don't have photos of exoplanets.
You'd be wrong then.
>>16468365
>an image is only something that shows what I would see with my own eyes.
That is a shitty definition. Your computer screen is showing you an image of this board, a completely artificial construction. It's still an image though.
What you propose would be stupid, as the information in the image file is no different if it was taken with a visible light camera or an x-ray detector. Both are stored as 2D image arrays, and can be shown graphically. They are just as real as each other.
The term you are looking for is true color.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 19:42:07 UTC No. 16468603
>>16456714
I was skeptical when both black holes were donuts conveniently facing us.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 20:28:11 UTC No. 16468686
>>16468365
So if we had the right type of sensors in our eyes to see radio waves you would be fine with it? Because it's technically possible to do. Mosquitoes see in infrared, will the images be real to them?
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 20:35:02 UTC No. 16468697
>>16468603
Ring Galaxies are incredibly rare, let alone one that is facing us in just the right way to form a perfect circle. Not only does this ring galaxy do that, but inside it's ring is ANOTHER ring galaxy ALSO facing us perfectly to make a perfect circle.
What are the odds of that happening?
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 20:59:53 UTC No. 16468713
>>16468697
the universe is a big thing innit
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 21:19:52 UTC No. 16468734
>>16468713
For you
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 22:03:10 UTC No. 16468788
>>16468399
you actually think that pic is real lmao
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 22:23:28 UTC No. 16468810
>>16468788
That pic is real, and you're a pigshit moron
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 22:31:47 UTC No. 16468814
>>16468788
And how have you scientifically determined it's not real?
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 23:07:50 UTC No. 16468853
>>16468788
Prove that it's not.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 18:21:55 UTC No. 16469828
>>16468788
They need to presume it's real in order to justify their comic bookish space travel fantasy lives that were implanted in their brains by watching stupid children's cartoons and being unable to differentiate science fiction entertainment from reality.
Anyone who has passed undergrad level optics would know its fake, but that is a tiny minority of people, far less than 1% of the population. Everyone else will just 'trust the science' and presume its real just like they did with the black hole pic and the sausage pic and piltdown man and all of the other many hoaxes and lies that scientists are constantly playing on the seething masses of the uneducated general public
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 22:08:44 UTC No. 16470028
>>16469828
>Anyone who has passed undergrad level optics would know its fake
Then demonstrate your claim, lay out your calculations and argument. You're telling people to question the science, while you have said nothing of substance.
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 23:50:18 UTC No. 16470127
The Event Horizon Telescope people posted a rebuttal. However, I only found this German news site covering it.
https://www.heise.de/en/news/Allege
Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 00:30:00 UTC No. 16470161
>>16457426
KEK i hate that guy
Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:30:34 UTC No. 16471216
>>16466550
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accre
Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:44:19 UTC No. 16471231
>>16466550
How do you see the color black?
Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:38:47 UTC No. 16471340
I just put it through Siril and got totally different results. Its fake
Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 03:00:34 UTC No. 16471572
>>16469828
>Anyone who has passed undergrad level optics
fucking what?
>ts real just like they did with the black hole pic
Except it is real. Even the people questioning it are saying that it is at worst slightly elongated on one side. And their entire argument is weak as fuck.
You are a literal retard.
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 03:02:26 UTC No. 16471573
>>16471572
you have never studied physics and you have no idea what you're talking about
Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 03:08:49 UTC No. 16471578
>>16471573
The image posted of exoplanets is clearly using a coronagraph. You can literally see the star being blotted out so that the gas giants are visible.
You are, again, fucking literally retarded.
Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 03:48:31 UTC No. 16471606
>>16471340
Post your results. Of course software for amateur astronomy pretty pictures doesn't work for either millimeter wave VLBI or mid-infrared adaptive optics coronograpy.
Still waiting for your undergrad optics debunking of this exoplanet image. Surely you don't want people to think you're full of shit.
Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 03:48:48 UTC No. 16471607
>>16456714
Yeah I kinda figured black holes didn't look like Langoliers
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 19:29:44 UTC No. 16472263
>>16471606
>amateur astronomy pretty pictures aren't real or something because reasons and stuff
>MUH NASA PRETTY PICTURES ARE TOTALLY REAL!!!!
Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 20:27:27 UTC No. 16472332
The retards are looking at this picture and thinking "of course there’s ring are you people blind?" They are not intellectually curious enough to find out HOW these images are generated to begin with. They imagine it’s like taking a photo of the night sky, just boost contrast / saturation with time-lapse photography to get nice colors etc. These electro telescope images aren’t "images" at all, they’re electromagnetic frequency data which are color-coded using advanced models to map frequencies to colors to generate the image. To get the OP’s image a tiny sliver of data was tweezered out of a massive jumble of background signal and the model tweaked until the desired ring was generated. Basically the image creators messed with it until the resulting image showed what they wanted it to show. The problem was that not only was signal-to-noise so low as to be no different from noise ("artifact") but also that the image creators had to break established models for color-mapping. It’s super advanced esoteric radio-imaging shit under discussion but I saw a good video on it here: https://youtu.be/ZlrTe1mi5EQ
Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 22:26:58 UTC No. 16472474
>>16472263
Where did I say something wasn't real? I said it won't work, because the software is written for a totally different task. If you had the first clue what you talking about you would know that.
>>16472333
You claim to know what you're talking about but haven't even mentioned the word interferometry. You have no understanding.
>The problem was that not only was signal-to-noise so low as to be no different from noise ("artifact")
Completely false. Pick related shows the visibility amplitudes of the 2016 EHT results from 2016 as reported by Miyoshi et al., on the left is the signal to noise ratios. You can see that the different baselines have SNRs of up to a few hundred, particularly those that include ALMA. So no, it's not low.
Robitaille has no idea what he's talking about, he apparently hasn't even read the paper he's citing. He has never looked at the data, or any astronomical data, he has no idea how VLBI really works. And neither do you.
>also that the image creators had to break established models for color-mapping
Fucking lel. You don't like their colormap, stop the presses. This is proof that you are a pedestrian who has never worked in physics. Next you'll be complaining you don't like their fonts.
>Anyone who has passed undergrad level optics would know its fake
Still waiting for your big knowledge to debunk the exoplanet image.
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 19:10:41 UTC No. 16473720
>>16468399
>The image of this board is entirely artificial
Did you really think that was a good argument?
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 19:11:27 UTC No. 16473721
>>16468814
You think other solar systems are orange blobs on a blue background?
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 19:28:01 UTC No. 16473735
>>16473721
Real=/= true color. Do you even understand what a colormap is?
>>16473720
Why don't you try making a counter argument?
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 19:30:28 UTC No. 16473736
>>16473735
>Real != true color
Lol. Move on kid. Reddit will buy what you are selling.
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 19:32:42 UTC No. 16473741
>>16472332
Yep. Basically what they are doing is similar to just taking static noise on a television set, saying they expect to find a cat on this channel, and then picking and throwing out pixels until they make something cat shaped.
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 21:36:01 UTC No. 16473890
>>16473736
Lel. You started off claiming it was optically impossible, and now you've rowed back to claiming the colormap is misleading.
>>16473741
>pixels
You have no idea what you are talking about.
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 22:06:19 UTC No. 16473916
>OMG MUH PALE BLUE DOT!!!!11
>U CAN BARELY SEE EARTH FROM PLUTO!!!
>WE ARE SO INSIGNIFICANT!!!
>AND HUMBLE!!!
>I AM THE HUMBLEST OF ALL TIME!!1!
>btw here is a pic of planets in another star system a billion times further away than pluto
>you can see the planets clearly
>yes this is totally real
>trust me
why are the soiyence goyims so gullible?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 12:20:53 UTC No. 16474677
>>16473916
Do you need it explained to you that a modern 10 meter telescope is different to the dinky 18 centimeter vidicon camera on Voyager? And I thought you studied optics?
>a billion times further away than pluto
Nope.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:30:25 UTC No. 16474916
>>16473916
Next you're going to say the hubble deep field is faked as well.
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 05:02:25 UTC No. 16475720
'black holes' are the astrophysics equivalent of intellectual drivel like picrel.
the people who say black holes are real are the same nincompoops who peer reviewed the bog brother's phd thesis gibberish and found it fascinating, believable and meritorious
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 05:32:30 UTC No. 16475738
I am very pleased to learn that the consensus /sci/ position is that black holes do not exist. As ever, this place has its head on straight.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 10:47:47 UTC No. 16475906
>>16475738
They do absolutely exist. But not yet.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:08:35 UTC No. 16476627
>>16475738
We have a loud faction that is highly skeptical of any space shit that's more complicated than a planet or star. Or even stars for a while. But the Katie Bouman fracas made them latch onto black holes super hard.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 20:50:47 UTC No. 16478154
>>16476627
skepticism is the basis of the scientific method, if skepticism rustles your jimmies then you don't belong on this board
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 21:16:28 UTC No. 16478176
>>16461773
>Space? I think it's a waste of money babe, we should be like feeding the homeless and shit here first
>*unzips dick
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 23:07:08 UTC No. 16478322
>>16478154
It's very repetitive skepticism. Much like a permanent protest mob chanting the same slogans. If your endgoal is to make the board less entertaining, congrats.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:26:39 UTC No. 16478381
I think people would be SHOCKED to learn just how few actual “scientists” there are. I mean people who understand their fields from the basic theories on up to the theoretical level. The ACTUAL reason why skepticism is met with dismissal / hate instead of a response is because most people who claim to be scientists are no such thing. They have a certain baseline of knowledge but not a fundamental understanding. For example…
Skeptic claim “x”
Scientist: x has been proven wrong by experiment y where researchers tested it using the following formulation…and it also violates Whoever’s Law which was proven by z experiment in….
Scienceologist: you’re a science-denying crank
Notice that with an actual scientist and actual exploration of the issue is possible even if he is completely confident in his belief, and, in extension, is open to having his belief altered in light of new information. The Scientologist is more like a priest repeating canon law and is uninterested in debating it; to him, questioning the dogma is a moral failure.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:47:10 UTC No. 16478403
>>16478381
There were multiple attempts to explore this topic in this thread that met with no engagement. And I know they were not from you. Do you work for Reddit or something? Always trying to get people to go there.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 06:59:14 UTC No. 16478659
>>16478381
Look at this shit https://news.ycombinator.com/item?i
It's just one guy against 500 they don't do any critical thinking
Just blindly parrot MOND is false because the universe is relativistic
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 09:58:57 UTC No. 16478765
>>16468697
I don't really reply or make threads anymore but Images like these have helped me out with some of the worst points of my life and even get comfortable with the inevitability of my own death. In the end we are products of this reality, I could ramble on about what makes this universe special like how matter won against anti-matter or all the unique properties that keep the universe stable enough to support us and what exactly it took for you to exist but don't forget how insignificant you and I are. Remember to be humble, It is a privilege to be alive, an unbelievable amount take existence for granted, most live day to day just completely unaware of how much they owe to just being alive. if you are feeling hurt about a girl leaving you or someone dying or maybe something made you trip in life like someone abusing you, remember that you are alive, born healthy and were born in the greatest century so far to be alive. Life is fleeting and there is a very good chance consciousness is a temporary state. Whether there is an afterlife or not both are equally terrifying. If you are ever in a rough spot remember to be kind to yourself and to others, most people will not return it but so be it. Expecting a reward through kindness defeats the purpose of kindness. remember that you are a gift not only to yourself but to others.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:23:27 UTC No. 16478931
>>16478765
>Remember to be humble, It is a privilege to be alive, an unbelievable amount take existence for granted, most live day to day just completely unaware of how much they owe to just being alive
Moralistic blather.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:27:03 UTC No. 16479520
>>16478659
>Just blindly parrot MOND is false because the universe is relativistic
low IQ people will always outnumber high IQ people
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 00:08:24 UTC No. 16481471
>>16478931
don't read any posts by anyone who posts anime, you'll save yourself a lot of wasted time.
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 22:41:07 UTC No. 16484573
>>16456714
astronomy is a low IQ topic so it attracts low IQ people. thats why its so popular with women
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 20:54:00 UTC No. 16486954
>>16479520
thats what i used to not understand about the people who screech "REEEE STOP BEING DUMB!!!" on this board all the time. most people are dumb and you can't screech at them to stop being that any more than tall people can screech at manlets to stop being short.
eventually i realized that the "REEEE STOP BEING DUMB!!!" screechers must themselves be very dumb
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 13:09:03 UTC No. 16487811
>>16457282
Oh geez, now I'm starting to have doubts about that room temperature superconductor
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 02:56:08 UTC No. 16488717
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 05:17:46 UTC No. 16490203
>>16456714
thats just a defocused picture of a fish
sage at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 19:46:11 UTC No. 16490775
>>16469828
This>>16469828
You haven't actually proposed a counter point to the post you're replying to.
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 02:29:50 UTC No. 16492330
>>16469828
half the people posting on /sci/ are below 100IQ, those people all have low IQ beliefs and low IQ ideas in their low IQ heads. when a high IQ person comes along and tries to explain to them why they're wrong, they are too low IQ to understand the explanation because high IQ ideas are beyond their comprehension
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 23:38:36 UTC No. 16493470
>>16492330
Right, its easier for someone to learn physics and understand that the black holes meme isn't physically possible than it is to explain why they aren't physically possible to some drooling moron who learned their 'physics' knowledge from marvel comix movies and sci-fi TV shows
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 23:43:50 UTC No. 16493475
>>16456714
Just women things
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Nov 2024 03:33:36 UTC No. 16493654
>>16456714
Because they religiously follow the "theory" of relativity and try to twist and fudge the data as much as they can to support st. Einstein, the jewish prophet.
"Black holes" don't even exist, they are just supermassive objects who don't emit light because light is a MASS like ALL PARTICLES. Look it up, the two first experiments "proving" Einstein right were total hoaxes, even mainstream pseudoscientists now admit it, but you really believe that these relativist hacks actually found hick's bozoN or gravitational waves without fudging their data?
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Nov 2024 11:26:57 UTC No. 16493931
>>16456714
Isn't a black hole at the center of every Galaxy and that's what we're rotating around the same thing everything rotates around the Sun do we even need to see them to know they're there
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 27 Nov 2024 04:53:34 UTC No. 16494867
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 01:25:47 UTC No. 16495719
>>16493931
>I know black holes are there even though I have no conclusive evidence
I know God is there even though I have no conclusive evidence
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 19:44:22 UTC No. 16496473
>This quasar appears to be receding at several times the speed of light, yet we can still see it because the light wave just stretches, but still travels towards us at light speed.
>WhAt?!?! EsCaPe VelOciTy BiggEr thAn LighT SpEEd?!?!?!
>NOOOooooo!!!! the light waves can't just stretch to compensate for their recession velocity!!!!
>They have to be trapped in the black hole or something because I saw it happen on Star Wars!!
how come astronomy is so schizo and doesn't follow a consistent set of physical laws?
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:16:42 UTC No. 16498393
>>16474916
how would you know if it was fake? you can't confirm it in any way, your trust in it isn't based in rationality, it is faith based
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Nov 2024 19:37:42 UTC No. 16498484
>>16456730
>accession disc
lol
Anonymous at Sun, 1 Dec 2024 08:04:14 UTC No. 16499004
>>16478765
This is sad cope coming from a Hell-bound heathen
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 2 Dec 2024 17:15:44 UTC No. 16500327
>>16493861
When someone is screeching profanities in all caps you pretty much know that they're wrong and have some sort of irrational emotional attachment to an issue that prevents them from seeing that they're on the wrong side of it.
Just think about how stupid the rationale "you have you agree with me because I posted profanities in all caps" is. Only someone with the mentality of a small child could fail to understand that. Unfortunately 4chan and especially /sci/ has a lot of people like that.
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 3 Dec 2024 23:43:08 UTC No. 16501608
>>16500327
4chan is SRS BIZ
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 07:26:23 UTC No. 16501901
I knew this was some bullshit. I accept the /sci/ interpretation of physics. I see no reason to believe that black holes exist or even that general relativity is in any way an accurate description of reality.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 09:13:44 UTC No. 16501925
>>16456730
Or maybe the original team just really wanted to be the first to picture a black hole. They responded to the scientific paper refuting this with a dodgy blog post basically saying "trust us bro", so personally I'm inclined to believe the Japanese team's got a point.
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 09:56:40 UTC No. 16501936
>>16501925
>They responded to the scientific paper refuting this with a dodgy blog post basically saying "trust us bro"
Then you didn't even read it at all. What they actually did was link to the 5 independent analyses. 4 of those confirm the EHT ring, only one finds something totally different. There is nothing scientific about blindly accepting the outlier, especially when it hasn't been reproduced. But what you and OP are doing is pure confirmation bias, cherrypicking the result which suit your prejudices.
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 04:48:48 UTC No. 16503232
>>16501901
>I see no reason to believe that black holes exist
meanwhile there is a plethora of reason proving that they don't exist.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 05:05:34 UTC No. 16503250
>>16457365
Now the man gets the blame. Just like the FIU bridge collapse.
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 04:09:45 UTC No. 16504515
>>16501936
black hole pictures are all fake because black holes don't exist. schwarzschild invented the black hole meme as a way of pointing out how titanically stupid general relativity is, he never meant anyone to take it seriously.
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 05:28:53 UTC No. 16504550
>>16504515
It’s actually the other way around. Black holes don’t exist BECAUSE the pictures are fake.
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Dec 2024 04:33:03 UTC No. 16505506
>>16501901
>even that general relativity is in any way an accurate description of reality.
It has been conclusively disproved several times, it is the geocentrism of physics, its clearly fake yet the orthodoxy considers it indisputable dogma and refuses to admit it is wrong
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Dec 2024 04:59:03 UTC No. 16505535
>>16505506
I just wonder how far Einstein set us back with his blunder, along with everyone who supported it. They’ve spent over 100 years handing out Nobel Prizes for this lie.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Dec 2024 01:34:18 UTC No. 16506329
I suspect black holes are real and Einstein’s theory will continue to be very accurate in this regard. I’m just guessing based on evidence I’ve seen though. I can’t say for sure.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Dec 2024 08:29:13 UTC No. 16506520
>>16505506
>It has been conclusively disproved several times
Such as?
Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 04:23:29 UTC No. 16507354
>>16506520
GR was originally conceived as a static universe theory
Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 09:40:41 UTC No. 16507494
>>16507354
No, it has static solutions. But the theory does not require this, and infact says they are unstable.
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 02:55:40 UTC No. 16508364
>>16507494
u have no idea what you're talking about lol
u never studied physics
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 05:16:04 UTC No. 16508457
>>16501901
GR is observed in drifting of satellite clocks
It's not that GR is fake its just black hoes
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 06:12:13 UTC No. 16508479
>>16508457
This is honestly really exciting. Because if black holes are fake, then what are these completely unknown extremely dense objects with extremely high mass? What could have such a strong gravitational influence yet appear so small and dark? I hope we find out what they are in my lifetime.
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 08:13:02 UTC No. 16508531
>>16508479
I think they’re stars but we can’t detect their light because the escape velocity is faster than the speed of light due to very strong gravitation.
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 10:11:57 UTC No. 16508584
>>16508531
If the surface is below the radius where light cannot escape (Schwartzchild radius, event horizon), then the star cannot support itself under GR. When you do the calculations you find that inside this radius, not only can light not escape, but nothing can stay at a fixed radius, everything must move inwards.
There is also Buchdahl's theorem, which shows that even when the star shrinks below about 1.5 Schwartzchild radii, that no finite source of pressure would keep the star from collapsing.
Under current physics there is no way for it to just be a normal object below the event horizon. It continues collapsing.
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 22:19:32 UTC No. 16509173
>>16508531
>the escape velocity is faster than the speed of light
you're an idiot and you have no idea about how physics works because you've never studied it.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Dec 2024 02:00:45 UTC No. 16509396
>>16509173
Honestly I really doubt that
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 01:18:19 UTC No. 16510278
>>16509173
>quasar has superluminal recession velocity
>YOU CAN STILL SEE THEM GOY THE LIGHT JUST GETS REDSHIFTED
>black hole has superluminal escape velocity
>YOU CAN'T SEE THAT LIGHT GOY BECAUSE REASONS AND STUFF OR SOMETHING
but the real twist in that logic is that black holes don't even exist, so you can make up whatever exceptions to the laws of physics for them that you want same as you can for scifi space ships and laser swords. warp factor six gorillon, scotty, we're going to see the planet of the unicorns, it orbits a black hole
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 03:50:48 UTC No. 16511295
>>16503250
their lives were sacrificed for feminism
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:18:26 UTC No. 16512212
>left pic: everyone knows black holes don't exist, they're just a stupid sci-fi plot device
>right pic: NOOOOOO!!!! YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND!!! OK look see heres where I divided by zero and thats why comic books are real!!! muh einstein, muh schwartzchild muffugguh!!! black holes exist because i want them too, i don't need any evidence!!! i made this fake pic of a black hole in paint, that prove black holes are real!!! i don't even know what the world singularity actually means because i never studied math and i never studied physics or astronomy either, but i saw black holes in anime and that means that they're real. i'm gonna time travel in black holes to the multiverse!!! i'm gonna teleport back in time and ride dinosaurs into battle against hitler!!!!
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 04:41:38 UTC No. 16513452
>>16512212
lol
its funny because its true
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 05:37:28 UTC No. 16513497
>>16465987
I didn't take that photo and have no reason to trust that it is legitimate.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 05:53:39 UTC No. 16513503
>>16467332
>We have photos of exoplanets now.
>this is an exoplanet goys, trust us
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 13:56:37 UTC No. 16513755
>>16466201
I remember this, Melissa Click.
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Dec 2024 02:45:03 UTC No. 16514314
>>16456714
>why can't space bros do anything right?
they are low iq, getting a fixation on space from watching too many sci fi movies is something that would only happen to a very weak mind.
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Dec 2024 03:50:32 UTC No. 16515478
>>16510278
how come schwarzschild was too low IQ to understand this
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Dec 2024 04:13:31 UTC No. 16515503
>>16456714
You do realize that astronomy is not like the easiest thing to do. Specially when you have to build expensive shit, send it to space and all you get is so terribly bad as data that you would consider shoveling shit as a better job then trying to analyze and process all of that.
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Dec 2024 04:37:20 UTC No. 16515539
>>16515478
who knows but he made great episodes of the Simpsons back when that show was good
Anonymous at Wed, 18 Dec 2024 03:17:44 UTC No. 16516590
>>16515503
its a very simple science, thats why even idiots like neil tyson are able to get a phd in it. thats also why its such a low paying profession.
Anonymous at Thu, 19 Dec 2024 03:57:02 UTC No. 16517685
>>16516590
>even idiots like neil tyson are able to get a phd in it.
Anonymous at Thu, 19 Dec 2024 19:09:17 UTC No. 16518231
>>16456714
>muh spaaaaaaaace
>muh black holes
CHECK THIS BLACK HOLE HERE
*drops pants*
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 20 Dec 2024 16:23:14 UTC No. 16519199
>>16517685
Would.
Anonymous at Fri, 20 Dec 2024 22:23:44 UTC No. 16519458
>>16517685
she should've gotten a nose job when she got her tits done
Anonymous at Fri, 20 Dec 2024 23:33:54 UTC No. 16519515
>>16456714
>why can't space bros do anything right?
It's not science. It's conjecture.
Anonymous at Fri, 20 Dec 2024 23:56:29 UTC No. 16519541
Given the light speed barrier, understanding the dynamics of the interiors of black holes is entirely the domain of theory.
Anonymous at Sat, 21 Dec 2024 02:10:45 UTC No. 16519639
>>16456714
Rawr
Anonymous at Sat, 21 Dec 2024 06:44:15 UTC No. 16519823
>>16462512
>that woman is not very smart
you can tell that just by looking at her
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 02:10:28 UTC No. 16521388
>>16520564
>better
faker
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 03:44:02 UTC No. 16521428
>>16456714
>>16519639
>>16520564
it's blue
Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 04:52:45 UTC No. 16522457
>>16517685
fat & ugly
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 03:53:29 UTC No. 16523298
>>16522457
This is what a scientist looks like
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 10:12:22 UTC No. 16523469
>>16456714
>why can't space bros do anything right?
Daily reminder that everything outside our solar system are blurry shits and flickering small dots of light.
The pictures they show you are literally photoshop and made up somewhere it says that it is an ((((ARTISTS IMPRESSION)))) and we like have 12 or so real pictures of the planets in our solar system when a probe was send there the best space and earth telescopes give us crap.
>>16457383
>I'm always arguing with science bros on here about black holes.
>
> It's the dumbest science theory that has no value
This one gets it.
>Noo my made up shit (black holes) because blurry picture of flickering small thing (outside the solar system) in space!
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 17:25:42 UTC No. 16523748
>>16513503
>>We have photos of exoplanets now.
>>this is an exoplanet goys, trust us
Literally 3 minutes in photoshop
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 17:39:33 UTC No. 16523755
>>16493931
No. Galactic center is a lagrange point.
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 18:13:09 UTC No. 16523788
Stop samefaggging you dumbass fucking redditor
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 19:04:52 UTC No. 16523820
Isn't this the one that they credited a woman for?
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 19:06:05 UTC No. 16523822
>>16519639
I feel like this is probably more accurate. I imagine it's pretty chaotic
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 19:11:04 UTC No. 16523825
>>16461773
I have no desire to go to space right now as it is.
a Blue Origin or SpaceX flight would be a waste of time and money imo.
Oh, I can go up just high enough to see the curvature of the Earth? Cool
I'd rather go to Bora Bora
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Dec 2024 04:14:08 UTC No. 16524066
>>16523298
lol i understand that reference
Anonymous at Fri, 27 Dec 2024 03:50:49 UTC No. 16524818
>>16524066
merry twumsmas
and happy twumukkkah
Anonymous at Sat, 28 Dec 2024 04:23:30 UTC No. 16525969
>>16524818
In the sciences we celebrate KTWUMZA
Anonymous at Sat, 28 Dec 2024 04:26:17 UTC No. 16525972
>>16456714
Skill issue. Anyway SR is wrong because is jew soience.
Anonymous at Sun, 29 Dec 2024 04:28:47 UTC No. 16527245
>>16515478
schwarzschild developed the black hole theory as a means of illustrating how stupid a theory GR was, same reason the schrodinger cat meme was invented
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 04:29:42 UTC No. 16529347
>>16520564
have some jwst sausage meme
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 04:07:11 UTC No. 16530470
>>16503250
I remember when the Tacoma narrows bridge collapse was the most popular bridge collapse amongst scientists, but these feminist geniuses managed to out do the dead white males who built the Tacoma narrows bridge.
Take that, patriarchy
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:40:47 UTC No. 16531760
>>16467332
>have photos of exoplanets
And where is the close up of Neptune, for example? Or Ouranus? Pluto?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:21:18 UTC No. 16531985
>>16530470
KWABOTY female engineers.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 13:27:24 UTC No. 16532488
Chorizo still living rent free in peoples brains i see
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 19:46:46 UTC No. 16532994
>>16456714
Science operates over decades. News operates on seconds. If you want to get science on the news, then it better be quick, catchy and hype. Peer review be damned if need be. Remember BICEP2?
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 20:20:53 UTC No. 16533054
>>16456714
space science is a cover for black budget spending
Anonymous at Fri, 3 Jan 2025 20:17:16 UTC No. 16534283
>>16533054
NASA lies about everything here on Earth, its not a massive intellectual leap to guess that they're lying about everything in space too
Anonymous at Sun, 5 Jan 2025 01:08:40 UTC No. 16535662
>>16534283
>NASA: this dude with a penis is totally a woman, trust me
>NASA: btw we went to the moon, trust me
Anonymous at Mon, 6 Jan 2025 04:12:07 UTC No. 16536895
>>16511295
RIP
Anonymous at Mon, 6 Jan 2025 06:13:59 UTC No. 16536958
>>16456730
based on the word salad of copium you just vomited, I'm inclined to side with the Japanese, specially after the simp-show the EHT team has displayed
Anonymous at Mon, 6 Jan 2025 06:15:40 UTC No. 16536961
>>16501936
I say they're not independent, and the first actual independent analysis had completely debunked the EHT image construction
Anonymous at Mon, 6 Jan 2025 08:12:37 UTC No. 16537027
>>16536961
>I say they're not independent
Facts don’t care about your feelings
They are independent. Rejecting multiple independent replications and cherrypicking the one failure is pure bias. Stop trying to pretend this is rational or scientific.
Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 02:29:48 UTC No. 16537808
>>16537027
Fags want desperately for black holes to be real because black holes are a big part of their cringey star trek comic book time travel "i'm a science genius" chuunibyo fantasy lives, thats why they always take the bait on stupid 'artistic reconstructions' like the fake pic in OP
Anonymous at Tue, 7 Jan 2025 05:31:09 UTC No. 16537912
>>16537808
How is that a response to what he posted?
Anonymous at Fri, 10 Jan 2025 04:08:58 UTC No. 16541025
>>16456714
>why can't space bros do anything right?
Because only idiots study astronomy. You're talking about the same people who launched HST with a fucked up mirror even though it had sat in storage for 4 years before launch giving them plenty of time to double check everything.
Anonymous at Fri, 10 Jan 2025 14:22:38 UTC No. 16541338
>>16541025
and they fixed it. Why do you think the james webb took so long to make and was so overbudget? They tested everything 100x over so they didn't make any silly mistakes like last time. With the complexity of space flight, expecting everything to go right 100% of the time is retarded and absolutely unrealistic.
Why do so many fucking retards visit a science and math board? This thread is an embarrassment to humanity.
Anonymous at Fri, 10 Jan 2025 14:26:00 UTC No. 16541343
>>16533151
I like how the lines don't even match up but they are like "it's in the shadows bro". What makes people think like this? I literally have paranoid schizophrenia and see patterns in almost everything but these people just make shit up in order for their ideas to work.
Anonymous at Fri, 10 Jan 2025 14:29:52 UTC No. 16541347
>>16523469
You can get great pictures of saturn and jupiter with amateur as shit telescopes. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. the hubble deep field took nearly 2 weeks of exposure to see those galaxies and they are as real as you can get.
and even with those amateur telescopes you can see andromeda easily. It's absolutely massive in the night sky but it's very feint. You can still see it with the naked eye.
Anonymous at Sat, 11 Jan 2025 10:54:27 UTC No. 16542361
>>16523469
>The pictures they show you are literally photoshop and made up somewhere
You people are unbelievably retarded when it comes to photographs of space. Human biological eyes can only see a small section of the electromagnetic spectrum, meaning that for our biological eyes to see those waves of invisible light they have to be represented by other colors we can see with our biological eyes.
Do you get it now?
Anonymous at Sat, 11 Jan 2025 13:54:25 UTC No. 16542463
>>16508479
There's very few of those outside of galaxies to begin with. ESA launched a satellite gaia telescope to look for these but they then retconned the mission statement after it failed to find a single one.
Anonymous at Sat, 11 Jan 2025 14:21:21 UTC No. 16542492
>>16542463
>outside of galaxies
Outside of galxies centers
Anonymous at Sun, 12 Jan 2025 20:12:55 UTC No. 16543982
>>16542463
Europeans are increasingly impoverished and this worthless crap is what their leaders waste money on
Anonymous at Mon, 13 Jan 2025 21:08:04 UTC No. 16546436
>>16456714
Oh geez I wonder why.
Anonymous at Tue, 14 Jan 2025 23:52:52 UTC No. 16547757
>>16478765
God loves you and is waiting for you to receive him in the Eucharist,
Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 11:31:45 UTC No. 16548125
>>16542463
>ESA launched a satellite gaia telescope to look for these but they then retconned the mission statement after it failed to find a single one.
Wrong and wrong. Gaia is an all-sky astrometry mission, a successor to Hipparcos, it was never targeted at anything so specific.
And Gaia data has revealed multiple black holes in binaries, even with only a fraction of the final dataset.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_
Gaia has been a tremendous success, with more than 10 thousand papers published so far. Maybe you should do some research before posting bullshit
>>16542492
And still no alternative explanation for these objects, or the millions of known active galactic nuclei.
Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 12:07:41 UTC No. 16548154
>>16519639
but it's blue
Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 04:15:25 UTC No. 16553117
>>16548125
>a tremendous success, with more than 10 thousand papers published
publishing replication crisis articles that nobody will ever read isn't a measure of success, its a measure of futility and wastefulness. list some concrete accomplishments
Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jan 2025 04:21:02 UTC No. 16554759
>>16553117
>list some concrete accomplishments
There are none
Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 04:38:21 UTC No. 16555947
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Jan 2025 02:39:05 UTC No. 16556834
>>16542361
>they have to be represented by other colors
No.
They don't.
It's just to build hype because the reality is fucking boring.
Nobody needs the rainbow colored nebulae for actual science.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 01:43:23 UTC No. 16558192
>>16556834
They need it because it appeals to the type of retards that get excited by "omg bright colors!"
Astro fanbois are mentally on par with a female bower bird
Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 03:30:40 UTC No. 16559391
>>16558192
>"omg bright colors!"
same shit that gets cartoon watching faggots excited. imagine you're an adult and you still watch cartoons like a baby and you don't think that your mentally stunted
Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 12:08:40 UTC No. 16559843
>>16548125
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia
>The discovery team found no astrophysical scenario that could explain the observed motion of the G-type star, other than a black hole
So black holes are dark matter now. They can fit in every anomaly to balance the equation.
They didnt even tried to point JWST at it to take a closer look or anything. Just declare a black hole because of lack of all other explanation.
Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 14:51:42 UTC No. 16559982
>>16559843
>So black holes are dark matter now. They can fit in every anomaly to balance the equation.
What a moronic statement. No a point mass is not consistent with any data. For example if you have evidence of an extended mass then it cannot be a black hole.
Note the same dynamical evidence was good enough to find Neptune, and it has been used to find hundreds of exoplanets, many of which have been confirmed by other techniques. Are you gonna call Neptune "dark matter" too?
>Just declare a black hole because of lack of all other explanation.
That is how empirical science always works. Quantum mechanics is accepted because it fits the data, it is predictive, and there is is no alternative or better model.
>They didnt even tried to point JWST at it to take a closer look or anything.
They did point more than a dozen other telescopes, including Chandra, the VLA and VLT. There is more than one telescope. It continues to be followed up with more instruments.
Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 23:44:38 UTC No. 16560572
>>16559391
Dumb people have dumb thoughts because they're dumb
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 00:55:54 UTC No. 16560647
>>16456714
Because space is refuge for scam artists competing for government contracts. None of it is real. They are scammers who blow money on drugs and alcohol and generate some slop in python to have something they pretend they're working.
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 00:56:56 UTC No. 16560648
>>16560647
>Because space is refuge for scam artists competing for government contracts. None of it is real. They are scammers who blow money on drugs and alcohol and generate some slop in python to have something they can pretend they're working on.
Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 00:58:12 UTC No. 16560651
>>16456714
Because space is refuge for scam artists competing for government grants. None of it is real. They are scammers who blow grant money on drugs and alcohol and they generate some slop in python to have something they can pretend they're working on.
Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 02:41:34 UTC No. 16560751
>>16559982
There is a continuation here in the idea of bent geodesics. The central mass of all things will necessarily be some fucked up manifold in this reality-as-conception land.
Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 02:47:15 UTC No. 16560759
>>16560651
And also mathematics. G.H. Hardy justifies this by using "mathematical beauty", but more-so translates into "let me waste your grant money".
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 02:04:03 UTC No. 16561964
>>16546436
very antisemitic post
Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 02:09:39 UTC No. 16561967
>>16465987
It's a space dragon
Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 03:22:31 UTC No. 16563170
black holes are fake, they don't exist outside of scifi fairy tales
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 03:06:20 UTC No. 16564473
>>16563170
Some of those fairy tales are university textbooks. There are a lot of fairy tales which a lot of people believe in like that, but which only exist in their imagination. Herbivores are another one. All of the animals that are classified in university textbooks as herbivores can and will eat meat when they get the opportunity to.
University textbooks are no different than children's fairy tale books, some of the readers of both will erroneously believe that the contents are true.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 03:50:38 UTC No. 16565963
>>16465987
>theres a line on this pic, that means black holes are real
no it means you're desperate to read something into the picture which the picture does not display, it means you're delusional and insane and are easily taken in by your own cringey confirmation bias