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Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 01:57:23 UTC No. 16460406
What is "purpose?"
How does it emerge from unconscious matter?
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 02:01:01 UTC No. 16460415
>>16460406
entropy
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 02:05:18 UTC No. 16460419
>>16460406
terms like "conscious" and "unconscious" are part of pscyhology and not science.
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 02:11:25 UTC No. 16460428
>>16460415
purposeless entropy is everywhere though.
I like how you can look at a paramecium (a one-celled animal) and think, wow, it eats food and poops just like me
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 02:17:21 UTC No. 16460435
>>16460428
*porpoiseless
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 04:49:45 UTC No. 16460556
>>16460406
>What is "purpose?"
Good question, how is it defined, by who?
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 06:45:43 UTC No. 16460620
Think of consciousness as a two headed dragon. One head is able to detect itself. It sees another head, its body, its mass, its surroundings. It is conscious. The other head, identical in mass, shape, matter, cannot sense itself. It is conscious as a piece of wood. Both part of the same body, the conscious head of the dragon starts blowing red hot fire onto the catatonic head. It shrieks in pain. But it fears no death. The fire breathing dragon head senses pain and fears death. But it doesn't stop. It must continue and will continue to do so. The dead dragon does nothing but shrieks in pain. Eventually the two headed kills itself. One head feared death and continued towards inevitable end. The other had no say in the matter. To have purpose is to fear death.
I call this the "Two Headed Dragon Suicide Hypothesis"
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 06:58:30 UTC No. 16460625
>>16460406
What is "unconscious matter"? How does it emerge from vacuum? Do you have any proof of this "matter" being there, besides abstract notions extrapolated from subjective impressions?
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 07:03:22 UTC No. 16460630
>>16460556
>Good question, how is it defined, by who?
Imagine not knowing what basic words like "purpose" mean. Imagine also not understanding how language works and asking to see the manager of the definitions department to demand an explanation of how they circumvent the infinite regression problem with basic building-block concepts.
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 07:14:13 UTC No. 16460637
>>16460625
Matter is just patterns of energy that got stuck on certain thresholds that neither their current physical conditions nor random entropy can easily overcome.
Stars are an example of just how difficult this is, even stellar conditions only make fusion reactions happen very slowly.
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 07:16:59 UTC No. 16460639
>>16460637
>Matter is just patterns of energy
What is "energy"? How does it emerge from vacuum? Do you have any proof of this "energy" being there, besides abstract Nth order notions extrapolated from subjective impressions?
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 15:57:52 UTC No. 16461038
>>16460406
>What is "purpose?"
Possibility, and the assessment of possibility, and judgement of uses, and the judgement of benefit of uses.
Humans utilize a lot of things of nature for their benefit, apples from apple trees, grapes from grape vines, rubber from rubber trees, iron and bronze and copper from the ground.
What is the purpose of an apple, what are its possible uses, apple juice, apple pie, apple fritter, apple crisp, candy apple, throwing into a splash against a tree.
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 15:59:48 UTC No. 16461041
>>16461038
>benefit
Bene means good (Italian? Latin?)
Good fit
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 16:01:44 UTC No. 16461043
Male.
There is no purpose, other than to have your own premeditated purpose day in day out. Purpose IS purpose.
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 16:05:42 UTC No. 16461051
>>16461043
>there is no heckin' purpose except my baseless, made up, totally "premediated" purpose of being a useful golem for the technocapitalist machine.
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 16:10:29 UTC No. 16461060
Cells begin replicating, start consuming one another, develop neurological structures, pain signals, hunger, motivation, abstract thought, more complex desires, gratification for satisfying them, forms into purpose to live.
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 16:52:36 UTC No. 16461101
>>16460406
Human purpose is different than animal purpose, as humans have many more options and opportunities than animals, in this way humans take time to find out for themselves and the world what their purpose might be, they are predisposed to have certain abilities and aptitudes, but without seeking, trying, exploring, how can they possibly know what they are capable of, what their purposes might be
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 17:02:01 UTC No. 16461111
>>16460406
There is no purpose, you are just chemical scum.
Anonymous at Sun, 3 Nov 2024 18:55:29 UTC No. 16461243
>>16460406
https://sidis.net/animate.pdf