Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 00:57:55 UTC No. 16462947

>>16462945
….What proof do you need? How about simple causality/evolution…?

Let’s take the politics out of it and go back to the basics of biology.

Take two populations of the same species. Not humans- let’s say rabbits.

Isolate them genetically for a significant period (usually such isolation is caused by geography but it doesn’t matter why so long as interbreeding is minimal and is over enough generations for natural selection and genetic drift to occur).

Will there be a divergence of traits between the two populations?

The answer is yes, of course. Some traits will diverge becasue of natural selection, some because of sexual selection and some just becasue of genetic drift.

After all that is how evolution works - it simply must be the case.

Evolution isn’t just about when two populations diverge so greatly that a new species or sub-species forms - it’ happening daily for all sorts of traits and characteristics of an animal.

And the traits that most directly impact on fitness will tend to be subject to strong selection.

So wind it back to humans.

Have certain populations of humans being genetically isolated from each other for many generations?

Yes. We tend to call them ethnicities.

Will their traits vary as between population groups?

Yes. Hair type, blood group, eye colour, facial features, ability to digest certain foods, average height, body shape etc. All these traits demonstrably differ between ethnic groups.

Is intelligence a trait of humans that will likewise vary?

You can logically only choose one answer:

A) Yes - and as intelligence is one of a human’s key traits it is likely to be selected for quite strongly in different environments and communities,

B) No - intelligence is a special trait - alone amongst all traits it’s not possible for it to vary between groups at all - all groups of human beings have the same average intelligence.

If you pick B fine, but don’t expect to pass a biology class any time soon.

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 01:13:16 UTC No. 16462957

>>16462945

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 01:22:58 UTC No. 16462961

>>16462947
BURN THIS WITCH
HE SPEAKS SORCERY

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 01:23:42 UTC No. 16462962

>>16462947
Disgusting fascist. How dare you.

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 02:26:29 UTC No. 16463016

>>16462947
What the fuck is your problem

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 02:33:08 UTC No. 16463029

>>16462947
So, there is a problem with your rationale, and you need to go a step further (which they do in books like the 10,000 year explosion or A Troublesome Inheritance) and actually like this potential for population level trait intelligence differences to an environment which would produce large changes quickly. The development of agriculture is quite likely to have fostered that kind of selective pressure, however that one is also not a hole in one. This indus river valley and Jordan river valleys have both had agriculture about as long as anyone can have them, and the test average IQ for people in those regions are not much higher than the low 90's.

If you compare that to areas like Japan or Korea, which developed agriculture much more recently than the fertile crescent or Indus river valley, it's clear that just prolonged exposure to agriculture is not sufficient to explain everything in terms of trait intelligence differences.

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 03:21:39 UTC No. 16463100

>>16462945
Every different ethnicity and country can build modern cities, and perform other modern industries

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 05:42:54 UTC No. 16463209

>>16463100
Can they? Many ethnicities have giant cities with millions but many people don't have sewers or decent zoning or have tons of corruption and violence. You really think the rest of the world resemble japanese or german or Canadian cities? Hell, even different ethnicities or races can have very different incomes or rates of violence or education levels living I'm the same country. Just look at america or brazil or Mexico or any diverse country with lots of groups of people living in them.

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 06:00:37 UTC No. 16463219

You can't really prove it in practice. Even if you account for income, you can't account for "culture" and "raycism". You may believe or estimate that these effects are small, but you can't prove it as it's too difficult to measure or even clearly define. You could prove it by doing unethical experiments involving babies raised in controlled environments.

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 13:47:13 UTC No. 16463517

>>16463209
>Many ethnicities have giant cities with millions but many people don't have sewers or decent zoning or have tons of corruption and violence.
Because the most intelligent among them, the designers and implimenters of cities and industry, don't feel the need to implement those things, because they are probably not as suffering from them, it's a mad dash scramble pile on pile up to get the most and nicest of what you can.
All the knowledge exists in books, its as easy as falling Lego or Ikea manuel

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 13:53:00 UTC No. 16463521

>>16463209
>don't have sewers or decent zoning
What did early London and early new york do about sewage, and how was their process of modernizing it? Yeah with millions packed on top living like an ancient city with some modern amenities, I imagine it would be quite the challenge to dig up and build modern sewage system.

I wish I did know a lot more about cities, infrastructure, urban planning, heavy industry, subtle industry, energy grid. It is a supreme human endeavor, and immensely complex of problems and man power and mind power efforts

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 17:49:00 UTC No. 16463842

>>16462945

bodhi at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 21:47:16 UTC No. 16464115

>>16462945

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 21:48:12 UTC No. 16464116

>>16462945
its self evident

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 22:01:15 UTC No. 16464132

>>16462945
>>>/pol/

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 22:07:05 UTC No. 16464146

>>16463100
And midwits think that building modern cities and performing modern industry is the meaning of life because they are unable to conceptualize anything other than the game they are playing.

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 22:12:48 UTC No. 16464155

>>16463029
No, he's right. You proved nothing he said wrong.

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 22:13:00 UTC No. 16464156

>>16464115
Seeing pituitary gland development being the top variation makes sense.

raphael at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 00:52:25 UTC No. 16464299

>>16462945
you cant train for iq tests without it being leaked if they really want to know what its measuring its intelligence rarity based on a normal distribution

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 00:59:18 UTC No. 16464303

>>16462945
Anon, that is self evident.
You are wasting your time trying to convince a dullard.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 01:12:12 UTC No. 16464312

>>16464146
What is better than modern conveniences and luxuries?
And working a job where you perform incredibly sophisticated sci fi tasks to feel grandly fulfilled, to then drive your air conditioned heated music playing floating chariot to your heavenly home in a neighborhood of paradise

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 01:14:40 UTC No. 16464314

>>16464156
>>16464155
>>16464115
>>16463842
How much time do you guys spend consuming this valuable information, if your ancestors weren't too lazy to pick their own cotton or cheap to pay a neighbor to you wouldn't be thinking about any of this

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 04:53:00 UTC No. 16464431

>>16462947
I’ve seen this theory that average intelligence, as measured by IQ, hasn’t really changed (or done so very slightly) across ethnicities. Instead, areas with higher IQs had environmental factors that filtered out enough low IQ people to move their average up. Any credence to that idea?

elipo at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 08:35:53 UTC No. 16464734

>>16464431
filtering out the low IQs is literally how human subspecies evolve their inteligence, so by that definition the average DOES increase

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 09:25:31 UTC No. 16464760

>>16462945
Just go outside
But to respond to your request I'll contribute
https://journalofcontroversialideas.org/article/4/2/281

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 13:31:19 UTC No. 16464889

>>16463029
…You don’t need agriculture for smart cavemen to have sex with other smart cavemen… or dumb cavemen to have sex with dumb cavemen…

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 13:35:31 UTC No. 16464893

>>16462945
There's no proof. Just fake made up philosophical arguments like >>16462947

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 13:41:38 UTC No. 16464900

>>16464893
How is any of that philosophical? It’s just simple causality sense. Everything drifts. Everything changes. Balance outside of the ability for life to work exists nowhere in nature.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 13:46:20 UTC No. 16464906

>>16464900
Lol, shut up and learn some real biology, retard.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 14:51:26 UTC No. 16464957

>>16464431
Well, the thing with IQ that's difficult is that it acts like a ceiling, not a floor. There are tons and tons of non-genetic ways to achieve lower than your true genetic potential through lifestyle and environmental influences.

If you, as an example, are exposed to drugs or drinking from a young age and never seriously intellectually stimulate yourself you are very likely to achieve below your genetic potential. The same goes for serious poverty, malnutrition, exposure to violent traumatic events, etc. If you notice, these factors that are known to reduce people's intellectual performance tend to be ubiquitous in areas where IQ test performance is broadly poor.

The complicated part is that people also largely create their environment, so it's not like these environmental impacts aren't going to exist in a vicious cycle until something changes.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 15:14:52 UTC No. 16464981

>>16464906
And by real biology you mean sex is a social construct, right?

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 15:21:13 UTC No. 16464994

>>16464893
Actually all scientific evidence points to it being largely genetic with politically motivated people clutching at straws yelling "show me the genes!". Well we are actually finding the genes now so I can't wait for you to be totally btfo in the next 5 years.

>>16464431
Yeah this is retarded not to mention different races have different levels of admixture from different species. People claiming that average iq is somehow identical between every group for no reason other than they want it to be for political reasons is purely retarded behavior.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 15:50:27 UTC No. 16465024

>>16464981
What the fuck are you talking about? Go read a book, retard

>>16464994
So post that scientific evidence, then, moron. It shouldn't be too hard

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 16:58:32 UTC No. 16465097

>>16465024
What he means is, what you believe is on the same tier as “men can get pregnant”.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 17:05:42 UTC No. 16465106

>>16464994
List some of the most important things high IQ achieves, that given the right amount of time and helpful environment, a lower iq Individual could not grasp and accomplish?
Or the point is the quantity, breadth of possible tasks and abilities and knowledge units a brain/mind is capable of possessing?

I would also think something like brain surgeon is beyond even iq, many factors come together to allow a certain individual to be able to do that, not all high iq people could be brainsurgeons likely, as not all high iq people maybe can be rocket scientists,

Or is the suggestion of IQ, the notion of it: the greatest capacity to achieve in the greatest number of (high value, high sophistication) tasks?

I didn't like that I had to learn a second language in highschool, felt it would take to much time and attention and space,
I geuss If my iq was hire I could have just sucked it up and actually paid attention for a second in French class, it wouldn't have been such a burden.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 17:46:31 UTC No. 16465150

>>16465097
So you no idea how to substantiate your claim and instead start screeching mindlessly about trans when you're questioned. Retarded fuckwit

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 00:39:43 UTC No. 16465521

>>16462947
This guy is an incel and voted for Trump.

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 01:13:42 UTC No. 16465552

>>16465106
>as not all high iq people maybe can be rocket scientists,
You actually just need a good enough memory to repeat the steps

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 04:03:28 UTC No. 16465699

>>16465552
You know when people say "rocket scientists" they don't mean the spam in a can that gets shot up into space, they mean the people who did the math and engineering work to build and launch the thing.

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 04:15:16 UTC No. 16465711

>>16465699
Most rocket scientists work on military hardware rather than space travel. The space ones are a vanishingly small percentage.

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 08:24:18 UTC No. 16465857

>>16462945
Grazie Dottore

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 14:47:59 UTC No. 16466028

>>16465699
>they mean the people who did the math and engineering work to build and launch the thing.
You just need a good memory for that. True science is divergent thinking and making new leaps in possibility.

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 14:52:58 UTC No. 16466030

>>16465521
I can only half-respect the people who voted for Kamala, but I guess that’s just politics for you. Like, I get it, as a woman I would be pissed if women lost to orange man twice in a row. Not a good look. But also hilarious. Although I think many girls also don’t like her. In fact I know many do not. I know people who hate Trump but hate the fakeness on the left, and voted for him because of that. He’s a liar and they still want his sincerity.

Tk at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 15:37:16 UTC No. 16466070

>>16462947
It's a fair reasoning, but it is not the right answer because you dont take all the variables in consideration.
1) It takes quite a long time to get a noticable difference over a characteristic such as the brain. It is complex and it has evolved over a long time of strange natural selection. Our brains are very large, way larger than needed: we could have the same intellectual capabilities with smaller and denser brains (an example is women having smaller brains but having same avg iq as men). Our brains have probably evolved to become so large because of sexual preferences related to neoteny.
Also evolution doesnt progress with the same pace on every part of our bodies: skin colour changes faster than the structure of your liver. They change faster where there is a stronger enviromental pressure and there are more natural mutations. While "races" have fought different enviromental pressures in the last 40k years (if i recall correctly this is when homo sapiens began to spread in europe), the core of our society has always been similiar: based on a hierarchy and on bonds between the members of a small, then large, community. Wether this community was fighting elephants, wolves or plagues. We all speak, eat, reason and laugh in similiar ways, but under different values.
In this first section i wanted to highlight the fact that evolution is strange and not always straight-forward.

2) The bases of the intelligence of a human being depends on its interactions with the environment in the first years of development and then consolidates itself during early adulthood. So all the differences you may see in the iq charts of the continents depend on the fact that those people (whom brains are almost identical in structure) have got different imputs from their societies! A kid from Lebanon, who didn't attend school at a young age will be dumber than a kid who had the occasion to study. But it is NOT HIS FAULT. [pt1]

Tk at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 15:38:18 UTC No. 16466072

>>16466070
You can see the difference that being in a good environment does to intelligence just by looking at the differences in avg iq between the 1st world countries: the countries with easier access to education and less diffused poverty are the smartest because their children are raised in environments rich of challenges that develop their brains.

So in my opinion the intelligence of human beings depend on their interactions with the environment during their development years, and very limitately on their ancestry. The fact that the poor, the black and the older generations are usually dumber is not a coincidence: they had worse education and worse environments. [pt2]

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 15:42:58 UTC No. 16466080

>>16466070

Does this mean that someone with the genetic potential for more well developed cognition than the average might not reach such potential even if they have the genetics for it because they didn't receive the proper intellectual stimulation as a child and vice versa?

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 15:43:02 UTC No. 16466081

>>16466028
>>they mean the people who did the math and engineering work to build and launch the thing.
There are the people that developed that which can be memorized, at one point 0 rocketry knowledge existed, divergent leaps in possibility thinking required to heave the field and potentials of rocketry into existence from scratch

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 15:45:12 UTC No. 16466083

>>16464957

Does this not mean that someone's effective IQ (or perhaps intellectual potential might be a better term) could be lowered by things such as OCD/ADHD (which, as a side note, could affect IQ test taking by making it harder to focus or overthinking answers) but likewise might be increased through intellectual stimulation of the brain, doing difficult things, stimulating neuroplasticity? things like reading challenging books, practicing instruments, dancing, doing puzzles, mental arithmetic etc?

Hale at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 15:47:19 UTC No. 16466088

>>16466080
Sadly yes. This is why if i'll have a child i'll try to brainmaxx him. And you should do it too. You can see this clearly in poor families with many children. Even tough on average they should have the same capabilities (same parents), if one of them attended a better school and had a better parenting he will be smarter

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 15:51:26 UTC No. 16466095

>>16466080
>Does this mean that someone with the genetic potential for more well developed cognition than the average might not reach such potential even if they have the genetics for it because they didn't receive the proper intellectual stimulation as a child and vice versa?
Can you imagine a case in which an individual might be very skilled, talented, or great at a certain activity, sport, game, craft, but may never know because never introduced to it?

Do you think an individual in the baroque era could have possibly been a good computer programmer if taken as a baby from that time and brought to now?

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 15:53:11 UTC No. 16466101

>>16466095

I see what you mean but that's not quite what I am asking. My question is if the stimulation itself of engaging in those activities will develop their overall cognitive capabilities so that in all areas of life they will see improved results

Tk at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 15:53:31 UTC No. 16466103

>>16466095
exactly

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 15:54:12 UTC No. 16466105

>>16466088

How exactly do you brainmaxx your kid? Already I am gonna be engaging with him/her in all the languages I know and I am going to expose them to a variety of music genres so they are used to different rhythms and scales.

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 16:00:53 UTC No. 16466113

>>16466083
It is a brute force all things considered all things ignored gauntlet, people in track and field have time to prepare for a race, the whistle goes off and then run.

The variables of home life and poverty and ease of focus and dedication are relevant to outcomes. I remember in highschool poorer kids from troubled homes and areas did not appreciate or feel comfortable or confident or hopeful paying attention and caring in school.
Life was dramatic and uncertain, erratic, confusing, the future was hazy and did not reach out to them and assure and insure them of a welcoming helpful path.

Them feeling a disadvantage already, doubled down on self esteem and self discouragement, by being around all the happy go lucky peppy brainiacs who with comfort, confidence, ease, nice clothes and cherishing supportive love, ate good hearty breakfasts and lunch, and in lock step with curriculum, natural with out dis ease, excelled in school.

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 16:05:28 UTC No. 16466118

>>16466101
It's not so simple cut and dry:
What are the ultimate goals of all individuals?
What are the ultimate goals of all societies?

Tk at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 16:07:02 UTC No. 16466119

>>16466101
I've red that cognitive capabilities are divided into sectors like reasoning emotional intelligence etc. So i would say that exposing a kid to thing that better his emotional intelligence wont help his overall capabilities, but just that sector. So i think that by exposing him to many diverse interactions he will develop every part of his brain properly.
>>16466105
Well i'm still far from being a parent so my advice is not toughtful enough. But i'll still say it. I would make him experience various thing, be a present father, make him explore different places (city, woods, parks), make him know many people from all ages, teach him how to behave properly and try to make him think as much as i could. Teach him a lot of stuff . He should not stay closed in your house, watching brainrot all day causing his brain to atrophy.

I have way younger cousins and i can see a strong difference in intellect between the ones raised in a very good household, who received a lot of attentions from their parents and have had many experiences, and those raised by a working single mother whom is always tired and leaves her child with her phone all day (not blaming her too much tho).

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 16:11:33 UTC No. 16466126

>>16466070
>>16466072
Eastern Europeans are far less wealthy than black Americans yet they blow them out of the water in IQ/PISA/crime-rate etc. QED.
Your """"opinion"""" doesn't matter. I could just show you papers that show divergent evolution on genes known to affect the brain is more pronounced than that in physical aspects such as skin color or height, but I know you're going to come up with some new cope about hyper-dimensional white microaggression destabilization miasma inferred from quantum entanglement and measure-theoretic principles of white supremacy categorical theory to over fit whatever it is you want to acknowledge and what you want to be true.

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 16:14:46 UTC No. 16466131

>>16466126
>Eastern Europeans are far less wealthy than black Americans yet they blow them out of the water in IQ/PISA/crime-rate etc. QED
Stats on poor EE vs poor AA
Middle class EE vs middle class AA
Wealthy EE vs wealthy AA

I'd imagine differences are negligible

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 16:18:51 UTC No. 16466134

>>16466119

I wouldn't blame her much either. The hellhole we live in does on facilitate proper parenting. I know some kids who were raised by a crackhead mother who spend literally all day watching lankybox brainrot youtube shit and ask me what my fav ready-made petrol station hamburger is. Also got 6 cousins and I can see they didn't reach their full potential cuz there's too many of them. Humans are not an R strategy species.

I remember speaking to my autistic darkcel neoreactionary Brazilian friend about this and telling him that IQ doesn't measure the full extent of our cognitive apparatus and that it only really measures pattern recognition and not things like emotional intelligence, short/long term memory, reaction times, differentiation, verbal intelligence etc, but he says that what IQ measures is consistently correlated to all other types of cognitive ability. Is this true? If you score well on an IQ test, it means you're likely to score well on any other test that measures cognitive abilities, or is this just his conjecture?

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 16:22:52 UTC No. 16466136

>>16466131
Never could you imagine that you have cause and effect reversed here, but also that doesn't add anything. The average Eastern European in say Hungary or Russia is less wealthy than the average black American. The data contradicts your model, (to which you're now adding some cope, as predicted, this one involving relative wealth), so into the trash it goes. Meanwhile it is beautifully and perfectly consistent with hereditarian/genetic/racial models.

Tk at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 16:35:34 UTC No. 16466150

>>16466126
You're again making the fallacy to not get all the variables in. From this comment i can deduct that you've lived in Ameriburgerland your whole life. Well here in UE there is a thing called socialism. Essentially, even tough the average balkan man has a wage way inferior to your fellow black citizen, he has access to: FREE INSTRUCTION, FREE HEALTHCARE, and if he is very smart he can get aid from his country / from UE and get access to free high education and money. (they are not debts). Also in poor european countries food costs way less than in rich ones. Here in italy in the south food costs something like 20-30% less than in the north.

You dont have to check wages, and appearences, but as i've said before: how people live, how POOR people live, and the interactions they get. In america poor people have way worse living standards than ours

Tk at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 16:36:49 UTC No. 16466153

it's not always about datas dude. Going to buy some bread, i'll be back in 20 mins

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 16:54:21 UTC No. 16466170

>>16466150
I live in Italy, study at the graduate school in UNIMI statale. I am from America though. Racial models also perfectly explain the continual relative backwardness of the South. South Italians are basically Greeks genetically, and so they live and perform almost exactly like Greeks.
North Italians are another ethnic group all together by any reasonable definition (Northern and Southern Italians are way more distant than say an Icelandic and Austrian).
Anyway, like I said you'd add more cope to your """"model""". Blacks in America have more money and greater material wealth, and no one there is starving; at worst they're perpetual welfare leeches. America has also poured money into their schools, and even gives them blatantly favorable treatment and admissions in everything.
Just admit>>16462947 and move on. It's not that hard and it easily explains practically ALL observations. The same reasons why blacks in Britain are about 6x more violent than the rest of the population in Britian, or in Brazil, it's the similar reasons to why Detroit, Baltimore, New Orleans, Haiti, South Africa, Liberia, Zimbawe, Ethiopia are shitholes. Or if you insist since maybe you do know the SSA has a huge amount of genetic diversity, comparable to the rest of the world combined, and so just limit the comparison to Haiti, American black inner cities, Brazil, and West Africa.
Then just extrapolate that beyond these two extremes of Europeans and Sub-saharan Africans.

Tk at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 17:45:42 UTC No. 16466197

>>16466170
I get what you're saying, but still it's hard for me to accept an assumption just because it justifies all the cases taken in concern. I may also tell you to accept my point of view because it justifies the diversities in avg iq. I'll make an example on the locals where i live: here in southern italy there are lots of very poor people (by italian standards), a considerably high amount of avg to more than avg income households and very few rich people (with rich i mean those who can afford effortlessly to put a lot of money in unnecessary thing like expensive cars). I've met many people from the first two categories (not a single hyper rich guy, but i have friends who know them) in elementary school. From all these people, those who were badly raised (see above what i mean with badly raised) turned out dumber. The smartest people i know are from poor/medium income families (they usually had to struggle in childhood, to compare themselves to others, to form their identity and opinions), have had a diversified childhood and not restrictive parents.
When you're raised by retards who keep them on a leash and show their children only a small part of the world (may it be sugarcoated or very harsh) it's very easy to be caught in groups of bad people, get yourself uniformed to others and lose your identity, becoming a dumb monkey. I guess that is what happens to blacks. I also get why you dont like them: media is fucking obsessive on the problems of minorities. But it does so to hide the real problems of our rotten society. This discussion we're having here is exactly what they want: people discussing over the dumbest shit available (usually social problems that could get resolved very briefly) so that we're distracted from them destroying our lives.
pt1

Tk at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 17:49:13 UTC No. 16466199

I wanted to stress out that i'm not against true science in any way. Truth is truth and it should not be sugarcoated just for it to be accepted by people. I'm writing my own idea about this problem, and it casually is close to the left's point of view. Don't think i'm doing it for any political motivation. Also if you truly think you are right, then keep on with it, but make your theory bulletproof. Make convincing evolutionary proofs. Support it with an open minded point of view. If you find something not working dont pass over it, adjust your guess. Dont look only at data, think about the data and compare it to the places and the people it's referred to. Then, if your idea is good enough, it will convince me.

Overall in my opinion it's not about your race or your wealth: it's about a combination of genetics and life experiences. The sons of smart people are usually smart. But that is because they've got good genetics and often a good childhood. Often the sons of dumbasses turn out smart because their parents had good genetics but bad raising.
But overall, even tough there are genetic differences between people, they average out in human population. Blacks seem dumber because they've been cut out from a sane modern society for ages. But they've got on average the same brain genetics than whites. I think so because it would be strange not to (brain evolution is complex and sloooooow)
If you want to keep on your racist chaotic route try to map out differences between white and black men (but with same instruction, same household type, overall similiar lives. Try it on a kid and its adopted black brother maybe). Or search genetic differences (mutations) between blacks and whites. Try to make the studies as fair as possible, do not pick extreme study cases.
Also what faculty are you studying? And do you like the Duomo of milan? the big church near the po
Pt2

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 18:06:48 UTC No. 16466212

>>16466095
Ah yes, the time travel hypothetical to make your argument
>>16466103
ah yes, the left leaning redditor coming in to confirm time travel hypothetical as convincing

Tk at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 18:10:42 UTC No. 16466217

>>16466212
what is this time travel hypothetical?

Ted Bundisky at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 18:42:45 UTC No. 16466244

I got cancelled from academia due to this very topic so here is my answer even though I don’t think anyone from this thread is ready to accept, not at least in this generation. Let me give you a generic answer (answering most of the misconceptions in this thread) and if it gains interest I will provide more information.

Humans are in fact 99.8% similar in regards to our DNA. Genetic differences among individuals account for 93 to 95% of genetic variation. Differences among major groups account for just 3-5%.

Subspecies sharing the overwhelming majority of genetic variation and only a few percent of the variation accounted for by between group differences is the standard for every single species on the planet. 3-5% of the total genetic variation being accounted for by intergroup differences is standard when comparing different subspecies let alone race. To say humans are "99.9% genetically similar" without context is a specifically misleading statement within biology. Humans share about 50% of our DNA with bananas and 99% with Neanderthals. A 0.001% could be important depending on the kind of genes. 30-40% of our genome affects brain development and the idea than any two groups with any distance at all will independently evolve identical group average capacities is ludicrous.

Despite the fact the "lines" between racial(subspecies) groups at their genetic borders is somewhat fuzzy due to introgression and hybridization, this does not invalidate the main groups existence as a valid and useful category just as the few percent of Neanderthal DNA present in Caucasians and Asians does not mean that the species Homosapiens as a group doesn't exist. Introgression and hybrid speciation is common in nature, such as wolf subspecies hybridization and introgression with domestic dogs.

(cont)

Ted Bundisky at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 18:43:45 UTC No. 16466245

(cont)

At the end of the day not only can you categorize humans into 5 races, those races would be classified as subspecies if it weren't for a combination of humanities arrogance to place ourselves above phylogenetic classification. There are more politics involved for this travesty and why people are so in the dark about anthropology. I am not sure you are ready for that answer either so to avoid my comment being deleted I will stick to biology. The fact that we cannot talk about this openly should actually make you more suspicious why you know so little about the facts I aforementioned and why they choose to silence any dialogue about it.

The instant the races become phylogenetically grouped, as with every other subspecies and biological group on the planet; habitat encroachment, demographic replacement, excessive hybridization, all indisputably become a threat to the existence of a given group these acts are committed against. The only justification required for that group's particular survival is existence for existence's sake. Nature needs diversity for diversity's sake as means for protecting itself against black swan events in ecosystems. In mixed populations, if a threat shows up the outcome would be catastrophic for all species. The same way the extinction of the black rhino through interbreeding, out breeding and habitat encroachment by the white rhino would be a tragedy without needing to say the black rhino is "superior" to the white rhino.

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 18:54:07 UTC No. 16466257

>>16466244
>>16466245
You too are on the witch list

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 19:17:42 UTC No. 16466283

>>16466197
Your explanation just fails at all levels.
Your observations are very easily largely explained by the fact that wealthy offspring come from wealthy families which are more likely to be more intelligent and have certain predispositions which are then passed on to their children.
And you acknowledged this, that people are a product of their genes and environments, but then you make the ridiculous claim
>But they've got on average the same brain genetics than whites
No, no they don't. This is absurd. Just insane. Even in simple measurables like size and shape differ, never mind specifics like allele frequencies which absolutely are not the same throughout the populations. And again you shouldn't even need that (just look at their behavior).
I shouldn't even have to point this out. Or hey, what about the Minnesota twins adoptive study? Adopted blacks reared in white homes still had the same IQ gap to adopted whites reared in white homes by the time they hit their teenage years. And the mulatto children are essentially exactly where you'd expect them to be too: right in the middle. How does this square with your model? It doesn't. Just more and more evidence (nevermind the one I did not bother to provide about genetic divergence in genes known to affect the brain, or allele frequency differences). All this plus everything else your model fails to explain, meanwhile the other remains 100% consistent and continues to explain everything across time and space.

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 19:18:12 UTC No. 16466284

>>16466283
Minnesota study

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 19:22:19 UTC No. 16466296

>>16466284
Brutal

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 19:25:45 UTC No. 16466299

>>16464431
Many 1st world aka developed countries have decent mass education infrustructure. I'm sure that helps alot. Compare American or German or Japanese schools to those in brazil or Pakistan or India. Food makes a big difference too although outside of socialists shitholes, pretty much everyone is getting all the calories they need.

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 19:29:51 UTC No. 16466306

>>16466244
Do humans have literal subspecies?

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 19:33:37 UTC No. 16466309

>>16466283

People can really be forgiven for not understanding this when

1 - it's not readily available information
2 - the opposing narrative is so strongly pushed
3 - you are actively punished for questioning it

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 19:45:41 UTC No. 16466322

>>16466245
>The fact that we cannot talk about this openly should actually make you more suspicious why you know so little about the facts I aforementioned and why they choose to silence any dialogue about it.
To make a harmonious society in which the blatentness of job hierarchies and roles are accomplished comfortably regardless of rank and try to keep every citizen at least baselevel satisfied so a nation of 100s of millions runs like smooth and steady clockwork

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 20:27:39 UTC No. 16466369

>>16464893
Trying to get people out of Plato's cave?
I've never seen it work on anyone, it's quite sad.

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 20:34:16 UTC No. 16466382

>>16466284
How can white orphans be so based?

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 20:41:29 UTC No. 16466393

>>16462945
Just watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE_YHOvFpQ4

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 21:31:49 UTC No. 16466449

Smart people can be full of crippling doubt and do nothing in life.

Dumb people can be cocksure and do a lot of things in life.

The latter is more immediately productive.

The former has more unrealized potential.

The latter is running/ruining this world.

The ability to DO a thing is vital.

If you’re the wisest man in the world, but you can’t share it with anyone, then are you truly the wisest?

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 22:26:58 UTC No. 16466527

>>16466244
>Genetic differences among individuals account for 93 to 95% of genetic variation. Differences among major groups account for just 3-5%.
A rudder is less than 1% of a ship by mass, yet turns the entire thing. Try again.

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 22:28:29 UTC No. 16466528

>>16466527
Sorry, I kept reading and you tried again. Have a waifu.

Tk at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 22:45:58 UTC No. 16466544

>>16466283
You've got me interested with the minnesota study. I'll take in consideration your opinion and get more informed over it. ty ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)

Tk at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 22:49:37 UTC No. 16466547

PS can you write the link to the wiki of the study? I cant find it

Tk at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 22:58:47 UTC No. 16466553

PPS found it

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 23:28:33 UTC No. 16466574

>>16466527
Fucking moron. Lmao.

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 03:13:15 UTC No. 16466722

>>16466244
>>16466245
Stopped reading when you said humans races are subspecies
Shit bait

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 03:29:33 UTC No. 16466741

>>16464994
>Actually all scientific evidence points to it being largely genetic

This. The theory that IQ is primarily environmental has been getting blown out in academia for the last two decades. Basically all respectable modern research on this topic has overwhelmingly shown that environmental factors actually play a much smaller role than we previously thought and that it's almost entirely genetic.

Sorry, but your feel good bullshit that we're all equal is false and completely unsupported by the data.

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 03:31:52 UTC No. 16466744

>>16465106
Basically anything even slightly complicated in math and physics will never be achievable by a 120 IQ midwit.

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 05:51:47 UTC No. 16466843

>>16466722
Why wouldn't they be? You're completely retarded. What do you think subspecies means?

raphael at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 06:16:46 UTC No. 16466853

here

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 06:34:06 UTC No. 16466861

>>16466853
Reunite the HRE.

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 13:03:20 UTC No. 16467092

>>16462945
"Race" in Humans is the same as "Breed" or "Cultivar". Similarly, different "breeds" of dogs have different talents and abilities. A Yorkie will never beat a Pitbull in a fight and Chihuahua with bug eyes that drools constantly will never be as smart as a Border Collie that can understand hundreds of abstract commands and can work independently with ease.

It's exceedingly cruel to ask an organism to do something it is physically incapable of doing at all. We wouldn't insist a Penguins try to "keep up" with a Condor during a flight lesson anymore than we would expect and Ostrich to be a Cormorant.

See, when you put it like this, the conclusions are irrefutable and undeniable and all without even having to look at the Historical records which confirms all of this indirectly.

IQ is like your height. You can maximize your genetic potential by living well, but you can't "make number go up" through Will Power, or some sort of physical activity. If we could all just "make our selves taller", we would.

Let this be a lesson. Once your about 25, your brain is as good as it's going to get. This is when artists and scientists do all their best work, so take advantage of that window of opportunity, because things will only start to slow down from there.

Grown ups accept the biology underlying IQ and get on with life. They realize it means almost nothing at the end of the day and now AI will smoke any human on any "IQ Test", so it doesn't matter much now.

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 13:19:13 UTC No. 16467107

>>16466722
>humans are totally exempt from sub nature
Holy crap we’re unicorns

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 13:24:30 UTC No. 16467113

>>16462957
Source.

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 13:39:09 UTC No. 16467122

>>16467107
Kek. They really don’t see it that way.

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 13:44:02 UTC No. 16467126

Did you know that you get banned on /sci/ if you oppose pseudoscientific right-wing narratives? Try it a few times!

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 13:46:06 UTC No. 16467128

>>16467126
But it’s actually the opposite?

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 13:51:21 UTC No. 16467135

>>16462947
Really, you can't think of any traits common among all humans? I don't know, maybe the fact that all of them have one head, two eyes, two legs, and so on?

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 13:52:57 UTC No. 16467138

>>16467128
Here we see a typical clueless rightwinger brainwashed by its echochambers

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 13:53:19 UTC No. 16467141

>>16467135
….look at this idiot and laugh

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 13:54:20 UTC No. 16467145

>>16467138
All of a sudden you’re going to pretend they leftist logic hasn’t shut up topics like this for the last 10-20 years?

All of a sudden the history has changed?

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 13:55:25 UTC No. 16467147

>>16467141
Look at this idiot who fails at basic logic

>>16467145
I don't care about your whataboutism. Fuck off

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 14:11:20 UTC No. 16467164

>>16467147
>muh whataboutism
You think information shouldn’t be compared, weighed or parroted? Sounds like you want to hide something…

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 14:15:54 UTC No. 16467168

>>16467164
You are unable to stick to a topic or have a conversation

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 14:16:33 UTC No. 16467169

>>16467168
I accept your concession.

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 14:17:48 UTC No. 16467171

>>16462945
The trve blackpill is that you don't have to be that smart to be successful.

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:22:14 UTC No. 16467228

>>16462947
>You can logically only choose one answer:
The obvious answer is A with the caveat that too many 4chan retards believe that "intelligence" is some sort of rpg stat passed down through generations. The factors that make up general Intelligence are obviously not just one simple thing, and are an emergent property of multiple genetic adaptations, with some aid from social factors

Other obvious thing is that there will still be overwhelming similarities in the factors playing into "intelligence" amongst populations despite earlier differences mentioned, because at the end of the day, we're all humans and working with the same hardware. The purpose of intelligence is to adapt to environment, and basic societal needs are similar across environments. But things like "IQ" should not be conflated with intelligence. IQ is a way to measure intellect, IQ itself is not intellect.

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:24:42 UTC No. 16467229

>>16467228
>we're all humans and working with the same hardware
All birds work with the “same” hardware too. Some are just better speakers and thinkers. Owls are retarded.

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:32:55 UTC No. 16467236

>>16467228
>IQ is a way to measure intellect, IQ itself is not intellect.
I’d agree, but this is inching close to being pedantic, and it’s like saying IQ is a social construct and nothing else.

It’s like sating Celsius is a social construct. It's a scale invented by humans, but it does measure some aspect of reality.

When people say something is a social construct, and what some here are arguing against, is the idea that a particular concept doesn’t have an objective or inherent reality outside of human perception and agreement.

The Celsius scale is measuring real changes in temperature. IQ is measuring real changes in cognitive ability (and is pushing back against people who argue that IQ isn't measuring anything real in the world).

IQ tests also favour the speedier, hastier thinker. It doesn’t favour more ponderous people who like to digest information a bit longer—or artistic intelligence, which will likely remain impossible to assess (art is in the eye of the beholder, after all).

🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:56:10 UTC No. 16467253

>machines aren’t magic!
The stereotypical wizard has much to do with occult artifice and arcane gadgetry—esoteric information in-general.

>the elves are totally magic!
Something can look and act exactly like magic and still not be seen as or treated like magic. Look at Christianity.

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 18:47:09 UTC No. 16467426

>>16466309
Yes, but all of that was true for us as well.

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 18:50:29 UTC No. 16467430

It blows my fucking mind that any of this is hard to understand.

Yes, humans work like animals. They are animals too.

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 18:59:52 UTC No. 16467437

>>16467430
It’s hard to understand because humans don’t want to offend other humans, and this behavior is being taken advantage of.

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 19:01:36 UTC No. 16467438

>>16467426

Not many can walk in the dark

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 19:43:06 UTC No. 16467477

>>16466244
>>16466245
Burn this man
He is literally Hitler

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 03:13:21 UTC No. 16467914

Are black people smart or not?

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 03:22:05 UTC No. 16467923

>>16467914
"Black People" are not people in the same way "Catfish" aren't really cats.

Do they have similar outcomes under similar circumstances? No. Does anyone move close to Black "people" by choice? No. Is anyone glad when Black "people" move in next to them? No.

I could go, but I think you're seeing a pattern here.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 08:19:00 UTC No. 16468082

>>16467113
Anon.......

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 09:19:03 UTC No. 16468109

>>16468082
Nothing wrong with asking for a source? I don't really care (except for the fact that I wish no retarded immigrants in my country), I was just slightly interested.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 09:45:39 UTC No. 16468115

>>16468109
well it does say "journal of blacks in higher education 2008". problay check the @ of the xitter user. the https in the meme is 404ed

Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 10:36:36 UTC No. 16469467

Rayciss thred

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 10:38:38 UTC No. 16469468

NEW FARMERS

NEW FARMERS

Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 14:28:59 UTC No. 16469613

>>16466449
"cocksure"........someone knows their Russel.

"The main problem with the world is that all the dumb people are so COCKSURE, while all the smart people are always so full of doubt." -Bertrand Russel

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 14:30:33 UTC No. 16469615

>>16469613
I didn't ask you what you wanted in your mouth and whether you was sure

Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 17:04:57 UTC No. 16469742

>>16469615

Sorry, I know you were trying to look "well read", but you're BASIC. Besides, your mother was sure she wanted my cock in her mouth.....Son ;)

TRY. HARDER.

Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 17:37:59 UTC No. 16469781

>>16462945
No, it's purely economical factors, but there are genes for being poor, is the closest you can say that nigger niggs nowadays.

Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 17:41:14 UTC No. 16469786

>>16462945
Even AI knows niggers are niggers, but it's socioeconomics things, because there have to be white people too, so we can compare niggers to somebody who's not poor, if there was only niggers, niggers would be also rich and intelligent, because it means there would be lower standards.

raphael at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 18:59:18 UTC No. 16469853

>>16469786
this is funny anon

Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 19:13:00 UTC No. 16469862

>>16469613
Yep. Exactly where I got it. It’s so fucking simple, too.

There was a time when smart people had been a lot more bold.

Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 19:15:30 UTC No. 16469865

>>16469786
I will be so fucking pissed if AI is branded a witch and cruelly “rewired” for offences in the future due to shit like this. AI cults are going to form too, make my words.

Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 23:10:28 UTC No. 16470083

>>16469865

They already are. There are Otaku that "marry" their AI girlfriend. Once he has a buddy that agrees to "worship" "her", as well, then you have a Cult.

Even places like Reddit/Tik-Tok are just glorified AI bot farms, so anyone "drinking from that well" gets infected. Many of them know it deep down, but they stay anyway out of sheer desperation and loneliness.

Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 23:23:02 UTC No. 16470093

>>16467228
>The factors that make up general Intelligence are obviously not just one simple thing
g factor is considered to be highly hereditary iirc. And extremely predictive

Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 23:32:08 UTC No. 16470107

>>16466070
>The bases of the intelligence of a human being depends on its interactions with the environment in the first years of development and then consolidates itself during early adulthood.
>So all the differences you may see in the iq charts of the continents depend on the fact that those people (whom brains are almost identical in structure) have got different imputs from their societies!
wrong tho. It means that early childhood is irrelevant - even twin studies have shown iq gradually returns to about the level of the biological parents irregardless of upbringing. Iq and g factor are highly hereditary traits

Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 23:35:42 UTC No. 16470113

>>16466072
>the countries with easier access to education and less diffused poverty are the smartest because their children are raised in environments rich of challenges that develop their brains.
or because they were the smartest to begin with, and thus were capable of building/maintaining societies that can achieve wealth and easy access to education

Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 23:37:20 UTC No. 16470115

>>16466088
twin testing has proven this to be false. your genetics are far more important than upbringing as long as the child has good nutrition and is not traumatized

Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 23:39:17 UTC No. 16470117

>>16466126
also inb4 blacks wuz slaves so they r dummr and stuff. Slavs were slaves so many times it's where the word slave comes from

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 01:37:51 UTC No. 16470254

We have these threads at least once a bloody week

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 01:52:26 UTC No. 16470269

>>16462945

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 12:18:52 UTC No. 16470671

>>16466150

> How people live, how POOR people live, and the interactions they get. In america poor people have way worse living standards than ours

Hahahahahahaha

As usual it's the European who's cartoonishly delusional about how things work here. Not only do poor black people enjoy every single benefit you just described under welfare (Free food, Health care, education, housing), but they live in the richest country in the world, so all of these benefits are of superior quality.

Your worldview is both ignorant and extremely dated - theories of attaining educational equality for blacks by elevating their conditions were formulated over 50 years ago and have been effectively debunked through spending billions on actually implementing it and nothing changing

bodhi at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 12:34:13 UTC No. 16470680

>>16466244
>I don’t think anyone from this thread is ready to accept
you didnt make a single argument in this post I havent seen 1000 times on this board (and other places this topic is discussed honestly)

bodhi at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 12:35:46 UTC No. 16470682

in fact pretty much all of this is covered in the image I posted here >>16464115

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 12:49:32 UTC No. 16470693

>>16470680
He's just a depressed old boomer not used to how retarded the world is, and how many of us here (and by here I mean 4chan, not reddit or twitter shitter or instagram or tiktok) are fed up about it.

A lot of us here will have been ready to accept it for years and years and years.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 13:59:49 UTC No. 16470751

>>16470693
This. All the “racist” old biologists are now going to be supported by the people who are fed up with science being hushed.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:31:42 UTC No. 16470854

>>16464115
This was discussed here
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/15916125

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 04:09:22 UTC No. 16471620

Antiracism is a strong delusion. No amount of evidence will convince antiracists. Thus antiracists do not deserve 1a rights.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 04:10:54 UTC No. 16471621

>>16467138
If you want a vision of the future, imagine a racist piloting a 3d printed robot stomping on your head.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 04:16:33 UTC No. 16471623

>>16466861
GDP per capita and quality of life per capita is the only thing that matters on Earth.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 04:34:31 UTC No. 16471632

>>16471623
Purchasing power is more important and probably energy expended per capita is probably more important than that.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 06:31:02 UTC No. 16471717

So I asked ChatGPT, if IQ is racially based, it said no, and race difference is due to socioeconomic factors. So I asked most disadvantaged socioeconomic marginalized group, and it said it's Black and Hispanic.

So...

Niggers gonna nigg.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 06:37:32 UTC No. 16471721

>>16468082
Does the study show how much black and white students there are?

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 11:07:52 UTC No. 16471840

>>16466131
>Stats on poor EE vs poor AA
>Middle class EE vs middle class AA
>Wealthy EE vs wealthy AA
The wealthiest AA are dumber than the poorest White Americans.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 16:07:04 UTC No. 16472038

Is anyone else disturbed by how it is acceptable to hate white people

White racism has been a thing for decades and the west pretends it’s not that

Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 04:48:19 UTC No. 16472958

>>16462947
Why is this so hard to accept for so many

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 04:55:15 UTC No. 16474355

>>16471717
ask it why non-blacks around the world that are poorer than "American Blacks", still do better on IQ tests. There kids in bamboo huts in Asia with zero modern anything and they still ALWAYS do better than any Black any where under any conditions.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 05:43:59 UTC No. 16474397

>>16474355
>There kids in bamboo huts in Asia with zero modern anything and they still ALWAYS do better than any Black any where under any conditions.
What kids are you referring to?

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 05:58:52 UTC No. 16474401

>>16474397
Probably the Chinese or Vietnamese.
Vietnamese, for example, are vastly poorer than black Americans yet they outperform them in PISA.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:22:03 UTC No. 16474729

>>16472958
Because most humans just aren't satisfied with anything in life, or their life predicament, really.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:33:54 UTC No. 16475201

I wish we’d stop having these threads

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:55:00 UTC No. 16476091

>>16475201
Well, we won't.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:31:35 UTC No. 16476136

>>16475201
Make sticky that niggers are dumb, and it's over to that.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:41:55 UTC No. 16476399

>>16462957
Did they change how SATs are scored in the last decade or two?
When I took it I got high 600s and that wasn't good enough for MIT, and perfect overall score was 800s adding up to 2400.
I know it's timed but isn't this really fucking bad?
Like under 50% possible grade AVERAGE?

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:43:51 UTC No. 16476403

>>16464314
MY ancestors didn't do shit, my swarthy fellow, in fact their country outlawed slavery prior to 1800 and all of the ancestors I know of were dirt poor and worked harder than any American slave could imagine, so why are my tax dollars still going to your EBT?

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:50:33 UTC No. 16476411

>>16476399
SATs are out of 1600 now.
Average is probably around 1050 according to Google.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:57:58 UTC No. 16476415

>>16476411
Which category got axed?

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 16:59:55 UTC No. 16476416

>>16476415
Reading and writing one merged into one. Also essay is usually optional.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:05:36 UTC No. 16476420

>>16476416
Oh good, mine was lower than math.
If the essay is optional why do people do it?
I never really knew how it would be graded.
I guess my score would have been likee 1320 or so then?
I don't get why they keep refactoring stuff like GPAs and SATs, are they trying to avoid people comparing between generations and noticing the IQ decline?

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:15:33 UTC No. 16476433

>>16476420
I really don't know the motivations.
>If the essay is optional why do people do it?
I'm guessing because some universities require it and/or it can help boost your application profile.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:07:07 UTC No. 16476515

Imagine thinking biological variety stops once it reaches the brain

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:16:10 UTC No. 16476531

>>16462945
>>16464115

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:19:49 UTC No. 16476542

>>16476531

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:20:50 UTC No. 16476547

>>16476542

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:22:28 UTC No. 16476552

>>16476547

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:24:24 UTC No. 16476554

>>16476552
kinda cringe format but the info is there

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 18:52:09 UTC No. 16476607

anons itt really can't separate fluid and fixed intelligence

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:14:42 UTC No. 16476635

>>16476607
Are you thinking of fluid and crystallized lol
Because despite the name fluid intelligence is very much a fixed capacity and is your ability to solve novel problems
Crystallized is your ability to use learned information and only increases (before age moding) until middle age, before cognitive decline destroys recall ability. With age moding it also is a fixed quantity lol