Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 21:12:21 UTC No. 16464083

>system creates safety measures
>this prevents catastrophies to happen
>society feels safe for a while
>midwits midwitting take it for granted
>don't aware of anything
>think safety measures are useless and a waste of money since catastrophies do not happen

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 21:16:17 UTC No. 16464089

>>16464064
competency crisis is mostly caused by unqualified people in goverment institutions altering school system to suit arbitrary useless metrics like
>diversity
>equality
>no child left behind
and a bit by greedy capitalism system where a lot of corporations prefer short term gains over long term sustainability. for example they will rather fire older skilled worker and hire 2 newbies for same cost. also a lot of corporations have completely useless human resources departments, where they dont understand the concept of junior job and think that experts with 10 years experience in the field will work for minimum wage.

TLDR schools dont teach anymore, corporations dont train employees anymore and suddenly you have incompetence pandemics

bodhi at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 21:23:11 UTC No. 16464095

>>16464064

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 23:21:03 UTC No. 16464226

>>16464064
Unlikely in the US which is a shining city on the hill. Other places will suffer brain drain, not the US

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 00:30:55 UTC No. 16464275

>>16464064
nothing really its another fake y2k scare.

even the most complicated systems are easy to figure out nowadays.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 00:34:47 UTC No. 16464280

>>16464226
Meanwhile tens of millions of the third world bottom dwellers are flooding in but since they didn't come in through legal channels, you pretend that they don't exist. For every "smart" software developer from India churning out Java Spring code, there are dozens of Central Americans with no skills showing up with the expectation of being given resources and a say in how things are run.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 00:38:56 UTC No. 16464284

>>16464064
we don't "need" that knowledge anymore
like how you don't need a smith nowadays
you don't need people that know how to work steel at a "master" level... until you do

🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 00:51:29 UTC No. 16464298

>>16464064
The same thing that gets you banned here.
Now stop noticing, goy.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 05:13:47 UTC No. 16464445

>>16464064
competence crisis is artificially created by people in power
it happens because they want to extract every last drop of value out of everything at the cost of lonevity of the system
they do it in preparation for the final push of creating eternal slave race out of 99% of the population

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 13:11:18 UTC No. 16464879

>>16464064
We are fucked because we're going to run out of cheap energy in the next few decades.
we are so fucked. climate change ain't nothing compared to the energy crisis which normies are completely are unaware of and the media never talks about.

we don't have enough fossil energy left to build a nuclear reactor for every couple of cities in the world. fusion is a pipedream scam.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 19:34:40 UTC No. 16465279

>>16464095
>crudely quantitative priapic character
lmao he admits it. this whole things a cope for ytboiz losing to bbc

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 19:40:25 UTC No. 16465285

>>16464280
some day a real rain will come and wash all the garbage off the streets.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 20:33:55 UTC No. 16465332

>>16464064
It's going to be all ran by AI unironcally, I'm already seeing this in my work where normies are using AI to create policy documents used to interact with other organisations.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 20:37:48 UTC No. 16465335

>>16464064
E.g., Boeing

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 20:43:49 UTC No. 16465346

>>16464083
It's why Rule #1 in safety is "don't get comfortable". Most accidents occur because you take shit for granted and get too comfortable working around shit that isn't safe.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 22:06:03 UTC No. 16465390

>>16464280
Unskilled people existing dont ake skilled people disappear. And smart people only get to use their skills if theres unskilled people to do the backbreaking physical labor that still has to be done. Those manual laborers have an intellect well suited to their jobs anyway, a match made in heaven.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 22:16:54 UTC No. 16465399

>>16465390
>Unskilled people existing dont ake skilled people disappear.
Sure? I hear research and developmenrt funding is being redirected to save new countrymen. The funding for the highly educated is evaporating and in some countries such as France jobs are being defunded and redirected.
The problem is real and it is here, now.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 22:23:16 UTC No. 16465404

>>16465399
>I hear research and developmenrt funding is being redirected to save new countryme
Just doesnt happen. Day laborers just add labor and take very little from the system as they are paid low wages. Without them the smart people would have to mop the floors.
Perhaps you are confusing hispanics with american blacks, hispanics are notorious hard workers

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 23:11:14 UTC No. 16465447

>>16465399
>and in some countries such as France
i was talking about the US, a shining city on the hill where all the smart people migrate to.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 23:30:24 UTC No. 16465466

>>16464064
>"the competency crisis"

Look to present day Africa... Zimbabwe, South Africa, etc. Skilled competent Whites left, incompetent Blacks are unable to keep the basics of a modern civilization running.

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 00:04:24 UTC No. 16465500

>>16465466
>teaching union
add it to the list

Stop guessing start learning at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 00:59:33 UTC No. 16465538

>>16464064
Overcomplexity.

Nature is simple humans are simple.

Adding all this complexity requires an abundance of knowledge that isn't normal for people to aquire.

Semiconductor photo lithography is so complex and hard make the fab machines because.

You have to understand

optics
Electromagnetism
Integrated circuits
Chemistry and material science
Physics

Mathematics

And economics to create a price efficiency to scale production on the supply side and maintain consumer demand on the price side(cheap products)

Stop guessing start learning at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 01:01:03 UTC No. 16465542

>>16465538
I may add also that once someone dies that has this knowledge the complexity could be so great that people just can't figure out how it works

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 01:05:17 UTC No. 16465545

>>16464064
My generation, as a whole, is NOT ready to enter to workforce. The average genZ-er has the mindset, and corresponding competence, of an eleven year old.

II hope to God that AI comes in time to save us, because we are NOT what the previous two generations were, much less the ones that built the industrial world. The people coming into adulthood today are not ready for self-determination, they need parents to look after them, and AI will hopefully be able to fill that role once their actual parents can not.

Also, society is mostly brown now.

Stop guessing start learning at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 01:09:23 UTC No. 16465548

>>16465545
Ai won't save you.

Good luck.

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 10:30:09 UTC No. 16465895

>>16465542
>I may add also that once someone dies that has this knowledge the complexity could be so great that people just can't figure out how it works
Pretty typical when things dont get properly documented but also not a real problem as things get reinvented all the time. The typical research that gets lost is things like optimized production parameters like temperatures, chemical mix ratios and minor shit that can be researched in a few months time. Often these things just dont get documented for job security.
Or they are overblown. Consider how allegedly NASA forgot how to make rockets, it doesnt matter as the knowledge still exists, obviously many countries can make rockets that can go to space and now private companies make them as well, the "loss of knowledge" was fixed by just hiring a team of engineers to develop things again.

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 11:02:29 UTC No. 16465902

>>16465545
>The people coming into adulthood today are not ready for self-determination, they need parents to look after them
Ok Irving

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 13:49:47 UTC No. 16465983

Everyone keeps blaming DEI when the real problem is the decline in the rigor of high school and college education due to grad inflation among other things.

🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 19:21:18 UTC No. 16466291

>>16465983
>due to grad inflation
and grade inflation is because giving failing grades to negroes is verboten

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 20:58:10 UTC No. 16466414

>>16464064
>outsource complex jobs like manufacturing to other countries
>hire immigrants to become doctors, engineers, lawyers, etc. Because they are dirt cheap and you don’t have to train them
>meanwhile your own institutions and infrastructure rot, and your native populace turns to the service industry
It’s way overblown by chud fear mongering (“I’m incompetent = everyone is”) but there is a pearl of truth there.

🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 21:29:34 UTC No. 16466445

>>16464064
just look at this thread of /pol/tards and answer it to yourself.
the end is near.
shrug

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 21:38:42 UTC No. 16466468

>>16464064
>Are the alarmists just scaremomgering?
No. I wish they were but skill failure is everywhere to be seen, people insist on not staying abreast of their fields. They did it this way for 30 years and they shall continue so, just don't dare to tell them there are better ways. The ever growing complexities mean normies give up on keeping up to date. So we have a competency crisis that is fuelled by complacency crisis.

Hot take: why do you think Elon is forging ahead while the industries he paved over had som much more "experts"?

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 22:08:49 UTC No. 16466513

niggers

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 22:10:34 UTC No. 16466516

>>16466445
reddit

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 22:35:54 UTC No. 16466533

>>16465983
>the decline in the rigor of high school and college education due to grad inflation among other things.
STEM is far more rigorous than it has ever been. A third year undergraduate student of physics today is at the level of a PhD student from the 1920s.

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 22:44:43 UTC No. 16466542

>>16464064
>Are the alarmists just scaremomgering?
Yes. "Competency Crisis" isn't real and never was real. People are unironically more competent, knowledgeable and better educated than ever thanks to the internet and the global interconnectivity of the economy and trade. It's just retards unable to compete and keep up with the rapid progress of knowledge that screech.

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 13:15:11 UTC No. 16467101

>Are the alarmists just scaremomgering?
Book a plane ticket to Johannesburg and let me know what you think.

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 13:16:20 UTC No. 16467103

>>16465279
Worked out pretty well in Zimbabwe when they kicked out all their white farmers and subsequently starved to death

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 13:17:45 UTC No. 16467106

>>16465404
>take very little from the system
Considering that the housing and wages of these scab labourers is taxpayer subsidized, that's simply untrue.

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 13:19:48 UTC No. 16467109

>>16465983
>everyone keeps blaming DEI when the real problem is DEI

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 13:35:39 UTC No. 16467117

>>16466291
In my experience, women of all races are the ones that complain about classes being too hard. Blacks just don't turn in assignments.
>>16466533
I admit I know nothing about the education level in the 20s, but an undergrad education is less rigorous than it was in the 50s and 60s. I do know that grad students in the 20s would have been much more self-directed than they are today.
>>16467109
DEI has nothing to do with high schools and affirmative action has existed for years without the drop in competency we've seen recently.


The real issue is that America is addicted to immigration. Since we can ship in talent from other countries, we believe it's not necessary to train our own. Picrel talked about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIYwryWSwm4

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 14:45:53 UTC No. 16467189

>>16466516
why did you feel adressed?
answer: you knew its true and it offended you.
only possible answer here and a nice proof to what I posted.

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 14:48:52 UTC No. 16467190

But for a fleeting moment in time
....we created a lot of value for shareholders.


Time. To die.

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:11:19 UTC No. 16467216

>>16467106
>Considering that the housing and wages of these scab labourers is taxpayer subsidized,
If its not paid with taxes it has to paid with wages, its all the same. Any worker requires material support to be able to work, the same would be true for a literal slave. Theres a material cost in keeping a human being alive.
People need food and medical care if they are meant to work. And if you want their kids to work too, you have to pay for that too.
I'm talking from a "big system" perspective, day laborers simple take very little from the rest of the economy, just the bare bones required for their material needs which is physically required if they are going to supply labor
>but they take more tax than they pay
Same point, if they dont get paid enough in wages, they get paid with subsidies, they get paid by the rest of the economy. The labor they supply is far more valuable than what they take, which is the same for all wage labor in general.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 00:51:22 UTC No. 16469033

>>16467117
>affirmative action has existed for years without the drop in competency we've seen recently.
it took a while for the problems affirmative action causes to take hold and become obvious.

Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 01:12:23 UTC No. 16469059

>>16464064
It's what happens when you totally land on the moon several times and you shoot these cool boring movies and then suddenly you forget everything and you never get there again.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 14:30:53 UTC No. 16470781

>>16464064
When wealth started flowing in to Spain, people stopped working, went for consumption, and created a demand that French and German craftsmen supplied to. Local competence went out of the window. One historian claimed that is the reason why Spain, 500 years later, still has problems.

🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:09:54 UTC No. 16470903

FUCK, OFF /pol/!
>>>/pol/

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 02:25:10 UTC No. 16471539

>>16465390
>Unskilled people existing dont ake skilled people disappear.

Unskilled people existing do commit homicides.

Criminals are historically those with the most reason to illegally migrate.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 02:44:07 UTC No. 16471554

>>16464064
Outsourcing skilled manufacturing. Demanding services for things the average person should be capable of doing. Forcing schools to teach irrelevant knowledge to borderline retards.
>wearing structural gear to a brush fire

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 06:02:58 UTC No. 16471691

>>16471539
>Unskilled people existing do commit homicides.
Crime is done by criminals, not by unskilled laborers. Start by jailing black people if you want a big reduction in murder rates and leave unskilled workers for the next phase but that alone will solve 70% of the problem

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:50:29 UTC No. 16472225

>>16464064
>Are the alarmists just scaremomgering?
No, the problem is very real:
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Stagnation

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 19:08:47 UTC No. 16472245

competence crisis is just niggers

Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 00:30:00 UTC No. 16472610

>>16471691
>Crime is done by criminals, not by unskilled laborers

Do you really not see how unskilled people, that may not speak the language or understand local culture, could be at high risk of turning to criminality due to those circumstances? Especially in a society that idolizes wealth and envy.

Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 06:20:15 UTC No. 16473020

>>16472610
>could be at high risk of turning to criminality due to those circumstances?
I see the risk but you know who actually commit crime? Criminals, and crime is already illegal so just jail criminals, not people "at risk" of becoming criminals.
And if you just want to prevent all crime in advance, just jail everyone. Literally send everyone to jail, lock it and too the key out so no one can open the cell.
Then there wont be any crime.

Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 10:34:08 UTC No. 16473207

>>16465279
priapism = fucking everything you see, not "having le big penis" (this is an idea not compatible with reality, by the way)

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 01:14:32 UTC No. 16474150

>>16473020
>Criminals, and crime is already illegal so just jail criminals

Illegally crossing the border is a crime.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 01:28:07 UTC No. 16474163

>>16464089
>no child left behind
this is a big one
12 years of school and the 17-year old coming out of it can barely read.
Do you know how smart someone should be after 12 years of real schooling? They should be able to run a business but instead they're only supposed to do pathetic menial labor for $8/hr

You can see this in schools. Older professors are hardasses and you actually have to learn things in their classes. Younger professors just let everything slide and grade as generously as possible to compensate for their inability to teach.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:33:56 UTC No. 16474860

>>16474163
>compensate for their inability to teach
it is not that younger teachers cannot teach, in fact i would argue they have access to tools older generations didnt have like stealing animations from youtube or textbooks from anna archive. teaching about probability of electron being there or there is easier when you have it in spinning animation showing all probabilities, instead of rigid textbook with zero images.

the issue is that if young teacher will fail kids in his class, the parents will complain to the principal that the teacher is bad, instead of beating their kids to give them motivation to learn.

older teachers already have credentials in their CVs so they no longer have to give a fuck. young teacher with blank CV cannot afford to go against the system, he needs to polish the door handles to avoid starvation.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:36:17 UTC No. 16475205

>>16473207
priapism isn't fucking everything you see, it's having a non-stop erection

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 21:19:44 UTC No. 16475240

>>16470903
OP made no mention of politics or race, you liberal niggerfaggot.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 21:54:58 UTC No. 16475257

>>16465983
Future historians will regard racial integration as one of the primary driving factors of the West's pending societal collapse. We tried integrating lower races and treating them like anyone else, they failed. We tried giving them special attention while keeping the standards high, they failed. So we gave up and just lowered the standards for everyone until it was down to a level where they no longer failed.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:29:45 UTC No. 16475289

>>16475257
I think it's an experiment made by aliens.

They found Earth and are debating on how contacting us would go.

"Ayyyy lmao why don't we make the human contact the bottom feeder niggers and try to help them and we'll see a reflection of our own outcome in their interaction"

In a hundred years the Voyager probe will fly past a huge red sign facing outwards that say "don't contact, space niggers beyond this point "

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:49:23 UTC No. 16475470

>>16464064
You can think of computers.
The first users had to tinker with it to have them bend to their will and eventually built tools to make the process easier and more reproducible. Eventually these processes became the norm and now most people are so used to comfortable and overengineered UI/UX that they actually cant use a computer anymore.

Although the comparison with IT is flawed since this field pays extremely well and millions flock to study it, but in other fields that are at the other end of the CS brain drain, you have boomers with exceptionally rare and critical knowledge dying with no heir.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 06:58:03 UTC No. 16475786

>>16474150
>Illegally crossing the border is a crime.
So then legalize crossing the border and there wont be any more "crossing the border crime"

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:15:33 UTC No. 16475792

>>16474150
Crossing the border and becoming an american citizen used to be as easy as just showing up.
Just show up and register, now you are a citizen.
Tons of people hated it and everyone wanted the laws to be changed, initially by the original angloamericans but then the immigrant themselves that wanted to be the last to be let in.
Yet, it was still legal until the laws were changed so all you have to do to stop illegal immigration is to change the laws.
If you want to make a case that immigrants have a greater propensity to be criminals, that is something you can say without mixing it up with the legality of immigration. Black-americans are completely legal and have been more time in the americas than most europeans, yet they are a criminal subhuman race that commits 10 times more crime than a recent ukranian fresh off the boat.
All im saying is no one cares about your dumb rhetoric, you are coming off as a coward and a faggot for mincing words like that and hiding under the technicalities of immigration, as if you were a cop or a lawyer.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:24:59 UTC No. 16475796

>>16475257
>We tried integrating lower races and treating them like anyone else, they failed. We tried giving them special attention while keeping the standards high, they failed.
Whos we? The media has fanned social grievances since mass media was a thing. Black gangster culture is something that is only learned through media, you dont really see those things in Africa and were non-existent in rural blacks that had no access to media.
Not saying blacks are not naturally violent, but that specifically they get brainwashed with a culture that explicitly encourages them to be violent, along with many other trappings like a whole gangster lore manufactured for blacks

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:35:26 UTC No. 16475803

>>16475792
That's anon's "rhetoric" is literally fact. If you commit a crime, you are by definition a criminal. You're projecting heavily, accusing anon of playing word games while you're playing word games. Also your understanding of history is complete shit. The US has gone through many periods of high immigration and low immigration, with most of pre-1980s 20th century being a low immigration period.
High immigration periods had a purpose, and of course not everyone agreed with that purpose. When the purpose was obsolete, immigration would be reduced. Unfortunately in the current age the purpose is to drive down wages and to select the electorate, something those in power have an endless taste for and the latter preventing the incumbent population from being able to stop through democratic means.
What's funny is eventually your dedication to self indulgent ideology and luxury beliefs is going to cause the environment around you to decay to the point your life will be endless suffering until its ugly end. And because your ideology demands there to be nowhere to escape from its corrosive effects, you yourself will be unable to escape.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 08:16:47 UTC No. 16475818

>>16475803
>If you commit a crime, you are by definition a criminal.
Then just make immigration legal, hence the crime you are referring to gets immediately solved

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 08:22:13 UTC No. 16475820

>>16475803
>When the purpose was obsolete, immigration would be reduced.
Funny how immigration is the only act that needs to be labeled as illegal to be a crime.
No one would say theres such a thing as legal murder, or legal theft, or legal rape.
But with immigration, it need to be explicitly called "illegal immigration". Because on its own its clearly not a crime and it isnt, its a misdemeanor, a minor issue that leads to a fine or deportation and never considered a crime in the legal system.
You dont want immigration because of reasons that have nothing to do with the legalities of the immigration process. By the same token, you oppose legal immigration because you are simply against immigration

🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:45:04 UTC No. 16476673

>>16475792
>just make murder legal, then you'll have less crime

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 19:53:58 UTC No. 16476699

>>16464064
Rapid reduction in complexity.
Collapse.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:01:05 UTC No. 16476710

>>16464083
>system creates safety measures
>without harsh negative selection, lower castes proliferate
>previous innovations are so overwhelmingly beneficial, complex society carries on with momentum.
>midwits overwhelm institutions, incorperate actively dysgenic practices into society (welfare, women's suffrage, etc), upper castes penalized to the gain of the lowest.
>groundbreaking innovations no longer made, established technology falls into disrepair as society lacks people smart enough to maintain it.
>society undergoes rapid reduction in complexity. Collapse.

Communism and other leftwing ideologies are a result of dysgenic breeding practices.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:02:07 UTC No. 16476713

>>16464089
>unqualified people in goverment institutions altering school system
>He doesn't consider that government's ought not even be involved in education.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:04:49 UTC No. 16476718

>>16464089
>greedy capitalism system where a lot of corporations prefer short term gains over long term sustainability
Encouraged by government meddling.
E.g banks, 200 years ago there was a robust department monitoring the saftey of a bank's investments. Today such departments have atrophied, the excuse is "Well the government mandates particular targets which keep our operations safe. So why bother checking things ourselves?".

Regulations reduce competition. Without competition, companies get sloppy because there's no need not to be.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:05:55 UTC No. 16476721

>>16465466
genetic based problem. Technology & culture are downstream of genetics in the long term.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:07:03 UTC No. 16476726

>>16465538
>It's that all the low hanging fruit has been picked!
wrong

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 20:11:46 UTC No. 16476740

>>16465542
>the complexity could be so great that people just can't figure out how it works
That holds true if the successors are dumber. The genetic component of intelligence is dropping, so this will happen unless that rate of change is reversed.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:11:05 UTC No. 16476838

>>16464083
Reminds me of many many IT departments
>Why am I paying you? Everything is working fine.
>Why am I paying you, nothing is working right now!

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:16:39 UTC No. 16476847

>>16466533
>STEM is far more rigorous than it has ever been
Your whole post is so wrong that not even the opposite is true.
t. university lecturer

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:18:38 UTC No. 16476853

>>16476710
The lower classes had always made up the majority of society.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:19:20 UTC No. 16476855

>>16466542
Dude, people don't learn to think anymore because of the Internet and especially because of AI. Pupils and students literally let ChatGPT do their homework, sometimes they don't even alter it. There is no thinking process involved anymore and people hardly think anymore. If you had witnessed the following generation do their thing you'd know were fucked.
There was also a recent study about "digital natives" showing that despite them growing up with the technology, they don't understand it at all.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:24:12 UTC No. 16476865

>>16476855
If anything, it's evidence that nature > nurture.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:35:53 UTC No. 16476880

>>16476865
How?

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:43:25 UTC No. 16476896

>>16466542
>People are unironically more competent, knowledgeable and better educated than ever thanks to the internet and the global interconnectivity
Maybe in the upper levels of society with wealthy established older men. On the ground the newer generations of students are getting more and more fucked. Look at the children's slang:
>skibidi toilet
>rizz
>brain rot
>BRAIN ROT
Every child in America is forced to sit through twelve years of mandatory education and half of them can barely read after that.
Also "unironically" is a funny joke word but don't use it if you're trying to make a case for intelligence

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:58:48 UTC No. 16476929

>>16476896
If you read "The Shallows" there and "Amusing Ourselves to Death" here then you get a takeaway lesson.
The primary driver for intelligence is books. "IQ" is a low level intelligence where it's just grasping patterns, taking things in quickly, like wittiness. There might be ways to train that but people chalk it up to genetics - it doesn't matter. The ability to understand large complex issues is done through literacy.
A non-fiction paragraph or chapter can list out any sort of complicated issue in an explanation that's thorough, consistent, and unchanging. Anyone having trouble grasping one part of a concept can revisit the area they're missing. This can happen at any pace, quickly or more slowly pending one's capability.
Instructors therefore are really just for helping slower students that can't sort it out independently, and providing encouragement through grades. You can't really teach people, you can only provide tools and motivation for them to teach themselves.
Anyway, share of time spent reading took a slight hit with radio, a large hit with television, but there was still a niche for hand-held alone time quiet entertainment. Now phones have cornered that out and the younger generations are totally absentmindedly lost.
Even fiction has it's merits. Doctor faggot will say fiction "builds empathy" but it really just enables your ability to retain information consistently. You'll take in new information through dialogue while still holding in the setting's appearance and character's pasts. Fiction is great training-wheels for non-fiction. Even if you think it has no merit otherwise, it imparts slightly different skills.
tl;dr literacy = skills. no books = no brains = no skills
read books nigga

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 00:37:44 UTC No. 16477204

>>16476673
>>just make murder legal, then you'll have less crime
Murder is a crime regardless of some legal code saying it is. But immigration only becomes illegal because some law says it is
This is why you have to add "illegal" to immigration to explain that its a crime, while you dont have to write something like "illegal murder" to make clear that murder is a crime.
Theres nothing criminal about immigration. And the illegal variant isnt a crime, its a misdemeanor.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 00:47:28 UTC No. 16477229

>>16464064
>what causes a society to become incapable of maintaining itself and repeating things it has done in the past?
>invent engineering
>ship engineering to foreign countries because it's cheaper
>local engineering expertise dies because all the factories close and the skilled machinists now have to work in call centres
>also technological advances render older knowledge obsolete to the point nobody really knows the steps they took to get where they are today

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 01:11:00 UTC No. 16477281

>>16464064
>what causes a society to become incapable of maintaining itself and repeating things it has done in the past?
Cultural Marxism destroying Western Men and Western values.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 01:15:02 UTC No. 16477287

>>16477204
What's the point of legal immigration if illegal immigration isn't a crime?

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 02:48:50 UTC No. 16477403

>>16477287
Its not a crime, its a misdemeanor, and only because a law was passed to make it so. Unlike acts such as murder, theft or rape which are near universally seen as criminal regardless of some law saying they are so
Thats why you dont have to write "illegal murder" because its redundant.
Illegal immigration is as illegal as illegal rainwater collecting or illegal misgendering.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 13:30:53 UTC No. 16477764

>>16464064
Pushing competent white men out of every important facet of society that matters just *might* have something to do with it

The system would rather collapse than admit this openly, though

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 13:58:11 UTC No. 16477781

>>16467103
>Worked out pretty well in Zimbabwe when they kicked out all their white farmers and subsequently starved to death
That was more cronyism than anything. The Communist terrorists forced out the minority rulers and then gave all their lands to their mates instead of the actual skilled blacks. All the intelligent blacks fled the country because they could see that Mugabe and co weren't ever going to give them any opportunities. At least in Rhodesia people like Ian Smith saw some utility in giving smart blacks some form of education so their skills could be exploited for the whites' benefit, in Zimbabwe there isn't even that hope, if you're not some general's son then you're never gonna make it. Why stick even around? Especially after giving the govenrment the benefit of the doubt for a few years to stabilise itself. Only the politically connected and the retards stayed.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 14:00:03 UTC No. 16477785

>>16476713
education has ALWAYS been gatekept hardcore, preventing plebs from climbing the social ladder and keeping them eternally poor and powerless right where they belong: the wageslave pit.

While i can see private schools existing (and they indeed provide better service in utterly broken education systems like USA or UK), they are not desireable outcome. Private owned school will just focus on the profit:
>as long as you pay A LOT, you will pass
which is obviously wrong and you can see its effect in usa where the schools admit only the rich foreigner students whose parents pay out of their asses for the privilege.

i do not believe every single problem can be solved by total deregulation aka anarchy. imagine that amazon or microsoft opened its own universities, but before joining you would have to sign an EULA forbidding you from ever working in any other company. This is the end game of anarchy: back to the slavery. Certain systems NEED regulation to prevent them being focused purely on money gain.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 14:03:28 UTC No. 16477793

>>16477785
Shitty retarded take from a moron. Your government brainwashing center is a modern invention of a duplicitous regime.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 15:59:43 UTC No. 16477888

>>16475786
>Get rid of laws and there will be no crime

Historically people fleeing prosecution for crimes in their own country are those with the most motive to illegally cross the border.

You are contributing to having unskilled people disappearing skilled people.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 16:01:44 UTC No. 16477890

>>16475792
>If you want to make a case that immigrants have a greater propensity to be criminals, that is something you can say without mixing it up with the legality of immigration

You are the one mixing up the legality of immigration.

By your rhetoric, slavery used to be legal, so that's justification for practicing it today.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 16:06:20 UTC No. 16477893

>>16464089
>completely useless human resources departments
Far from being useless they tend to be actively harmful

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 18:36:00 UTC No. 16478040

>>16477793
You are dumb.
>>16477785
Even universities are like that nowadays; purely economy-driven. I work in an aerospace department and boy, I don't want to fly anytime soon.
I also have a little son. Every school in our vicinity, including the elite paid ones, were infiltrated by leftards. Do any of them mention pastime activities, quality management or extracurricular activities? Well some do, but all of them focus 300% on diversity and anti-racism and other new-age anti-Western agitprop.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 18:38:30 UTC No. 16478041

>>16477403
Are you sure? Every country around me, immigration is illegal. Several reasons for that. The government needs to know who is inside of its borders. For taxes, census, mitigating crime like terrorism.
In most countries you cannot even take a vacation without a visum.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 18:38:36 UTC No. 16478042

>>16477888
Its also people who are worthless and unwanted in their own countries
And people who have such atrocious personalities that they burned all their bridges at home

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 19:34:24 UTC No. 16478091

>>16466468
>So we have a competency crisis that is fuelled by complacency crisis.
this. The sheer amount of experts resting on their laurels &or dragging their feet when it comes to any kind of innovation is staggering. You'd think people would have learned from the missed opportunities of major conglomerates who gave up on early access to phone technology, polaroids, personal computing, etc.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 21:19:00 UTC No. 16478178

>>16465983
We lowered standards to accommodate DEI because obviously it must be racism to blame for some races doing worse than others in academic pursuits. But nobody ever complains about racism when some races do better than whites in academia, then they just get lumped in with white people.

your average black or Mexican doctor got accepted into school with significantly lower scores than their white or Asian counterparts in order to fulfill diversity quotas. This applies to everything. No surprise when results drop across the board after dropping standards to make sure everyone could pass, because failing teenagers or young adults for being literally illiterate is racially and culturally insensitive.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 21:39:18 UTC No. 16478207

>>16477403
Misdemeanors are crimes no matter how much you try to redefine things. Not sure why you even bother any more as everyone has become wise to that particular trick. The shot your entire wad during the pandemic era and now you no longer have your favorite toy to play with any more. But continue to insist that reality isn't reality. This is how Trump got elected and why Republicans control more of the government at all levels than any other time in the past generation. Keep at it. Maybe you can turn the entire west into one party conservative states by keeping at what is now failing you over and over again. Or you could just accept reality that immigration crime is a crime and no amount of word play makes immigration criminals not criminals. Personally I hope you keep acting more and more retarded as it is destroying your tiny grasp on power you once had.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 21:44:40 UTC No. 16478221

>>16464064
I wonder if this is one of those fermi paradox things, when a society gets more and more technologically advance, fewer and fewer people are able to understand the tech and the whole society becomes more and more fragile as a result. And if anything were to come along to upset the delicate nature of the advanced society, eg an invasion or a pandemic, then the whole house of cards comes crashing down.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 22:12:41 UTC No. 16478252

>>16477888
>Get rid of laws and there will be no crime
No, a crime is a crime regardless of a law saying it is. Nearly everyone recognizes that murder is a crime
>>16477888
>Historically people fleeing prosecution for crimes in their own country are those with the most motive to illegally cross the border.
Not true and irrelevant if that was the case, as crime is already illegal, and i mean actual crime not misdemeanor
>>16477890
>By your rhetoric, slavery used to be legal, so that's justification for practicing it today.
Immigration IS legal today. Today. You are the one with cognitive dissonance to believe that immigration is magically legal or a crime at the same time.
How do you say that immigration is wholesome and ok if a person just signs a bunch of forms and pays a lawyer and files a ton of paperwork but if someone doesnt sign some document and does the same thing, then the same action becomes ebil?
Such a thing doesnt exist with any other alleged crime, not even with misdemeanor. Theres no such thing as legal murder, or legal theft or legal jaywalkling. Such acts are considered bad to one degree or another, and no paperwork makes them legal, except specifically in the case of immigration?

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 22:18:00 UTC No. 16478257

>>16478041
>The government needs to know who is inside of its borders.
I have been to many countries as a tourist and the govenment knew where i was because i had to show them my passport at the airport. I was not an immigrant but i could have simply decided to overstay, like many illegal immigrants do, and the government would have still know that i was in the country. Being an illegal immigrant doesnt mean the governmemt doesnt know where you are, so your point is wrong. You imagine illegal immigrants just sneak in in secret through forests and rubber boats, yet even those are still received in government funded asylum centers.
>>16478041
>For taxes,
Everyone pays VAT and illegal immigrants cant work>>16478041
>mitigating crime like terrorism.
Sure, but then the crime is terrorism and not immigration
>>16478041
>In most countries you cannot even take a vacation without a visum.
Plenty of illegal immigrants enter countries as tourists, then simply dont go back

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 22:41:51 UTC No. 16478299

>>16478207
>Misdemeanors are crimes
Misdmeanors are not crime and its you trying to redefine things. Theres a reason these things dont get called crimes.
>Trump, Reagan bla bla
Take your meds

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 23:25:53 UTC No. 16478335

>>16478252
>You are the one with cognitive dissonance to believe that immigration is magically legal or a crime at the same time.

If I sell drugs without a license it is a crime. With a license, I'm a doctor.

You are clearly being dishonest and projecting your problems.

You contradict yourself constantly.

>Not true and irrelevant if that was the case

See? You know it's true and you're literally saying the truth doesn't matter if it disagrees with you.

Thank you for demonstrating to everyone how dishonest your side of the debate is.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 23:28:19 UTC No. 16478339

>>16478252
>How do you say that immigration is wholesome and ok if a person just signs a bunch of forms and pays a lawyer and files a ton of paperwork but if someone doesnt sign some document and does the same thing, then the same action becomes ebil?

How can you say practicing medicine is wholesome if someone just gets a degree and gets certified and becomes a crime if they don't?

How can you say performing reference and background checks to hire someone is sensible but doing so to allow them to cross the border isn't?

You are subhuman.,

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 23:30:04 UTC No. 16478343

>>16478335
>If I sell drugs without a license it is a crime. With a license, I'm a doctor.
Doctors sell drugs for medical uses in the proper dosages to people that need them, Drug dealers sell you random poison, they are not the same thing.
A better analogy would be a doctor that lost his license selling you medicine. That would be illegal, but not a crime.
You cant even explain what the alleged badness of illegal immigration is because if you did, you would also be explaining why legal immigration is bad.
Explain then what is so super ebil about illegal immigration that magically doesnt apply to legal immigration. That would be a feat of mental gymnastics.
The funniest part of this is that i have not even advocated for immigration.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 23:32:05 UTC No. 16478345

>>16478339
>if someone just gets a degree and gets certified and becomes a crime if they don't?
The certification proves you are competent in what you do. Theres no similar requirements for legal immigration.
You can demonstrate to the state what a "good person" you are and they would still not let you in. While an actual criminal can pay some slut $20.000 to get married and now hes a citizen too. Your analogies with professional qualifications simply do not match the realities of immigration

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 23:39:04 UTC No. 16478352

>>16478343
>You cant even explain what the alleged badness of illegal immigration is because if you did, you would also be explaining why legal immigration is bad.

Dishonesty. I have stated it and you engage in obvious doublethink about it.

People without criminal histories are willing to go through the proper legal channels to enter. Their first act is one of respect for our laws and customs.

People with criminal histories must enter illegally to avoid them, and even if they are a person without a criminal background, their first act is one of breaking a law meant to stop those who do.

>a doctor selling medicine without a license isn't a crime

Really? So if I lose my drivers license for a DUI and continue driving, that's not a crime to you?

You are demonstrating, to everyone reading, that pro-immigration people are dishonest and pro-crime.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 23:41:53 UTC No. 16478356

>>16478345
>Theres no similar requirements for legal immigration.

The immigration process is meant to demonstrate you aren't a criminal in your home country and that you will be able to integrate in your new country.

You can criticize the process as being imperfect and having loopholes, but you don't seem to make any good point for having no filter when allowing people in.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 23:48:03 UTC No. 16478360

>>16478352
>People without criminal histories are willing to go through the proper legal channels to enter.
This still doesnt explain what is criminal about illegal immigration. Surely anything can be illegal if a law is passed to make it illegal, but you are still not explaining whats bad about it.
>>16478352
>People with criminal histories must enter illegally to avoid them
Just because criminals have to immigrate illegally doesnt mean that illegal immigrants are criminals.
Still waiting for you to explain whats the crime actually commited by an illegal immigrant.
And i dont mean "alleged crimes commited in the past" or "alleged crime that might be commited later"
But the actual crime of illegal immigration. Where is it? What is it about?

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 23:50:50 UTC No. 16478363

>>16478356
>The immigration process is meant to demonstrate you aren't a criminal in your home country
Not true, that gets done by checking your criminal background in your home country, this is also requested to apply for a tourist visa. This doesnt lead to any kind of path towards immigration, its just something that is done for tourists when they apply for a visa. The bare bones. You can demonstrate anything you want and still not be allowed as an immigrant.
For instance you can just marry a local and that gives you automatic legal rights to immigrate. What does that have to do with not being a criminal?

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:45:07 UTC No. 16478402

>>16478356
>You can criticize the process as being imperfect and having loopholes, but you don't seem to make any good point for having no filter when allowing people in.
I never said there must be no filter about letting people in. You are brainlet that thinks im even "defending" immigration.
All im saying that if immigration is not a crime, then its not a crime. Thats all it is.
It is not a crime to move somewhere else. It is not a crime to walk or to fly somewhere else. It is a crime to commit crimes and a person at high risk of committing crimes is still not a criminal unless the actual crimes get commited.
If you wanted to reduce the risk of crime, just check an potential immigrant criminal background and interview him, make him do a few psych tests, check his educational achievements and that ought to do it. Whole process would take a few weeks, most of it waiting for documents like police reports. Thats whats done to grant tourist visas.
But instead you grant citizenship to complete randos who just marry a local or that buy a property. There is simply no path for an alleged "good person" to simply immigrate to a country. All paths are closed, people get fucking green cards with a fucking lottery!

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 02:05:55 UTC No. 16478454

>>16464064
>what causes a society to become incapable of maintaining itself and repeating things it has done in the past?

Not willing to admit exactly what they need and commit to it. If you need more competent teachers and doctors train them from childhood instead of this round about methodology.

>Are the alarmists just scaremomgering?

Yes, always remember that "Competency Crisis" is just another way of saying there isn't enough people willing to do ---insert here--- labor for cheap or private enterprise isn't interested in spending there own money to train workers specific for their needs.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 02:07:48 UTC No. 16478458

>>16478352
>People without criminal histories are willing to go through the proper legal channels to enter.
What proportion of undocumented immigrants are people who overstayed their visas?

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 02:14:34 UTC No. 16478469

>>16478454
>If you need more competent teachers and doctors train them from childhood instead of this round about methodology.
You can train adults, you just need the proper incentives and management of the resulting workforce.
The thing that bothers me is that we clearly need a lot more people with medical training who can apply well-documented processes to manage preventative and basic therapeutic care, but we insist on millions of people being employed as office drones in positions that should have been automated away 2 decades ago. We let an executive mandate to dictate their own profits and business practices, no matter how unrealistic, get in the way of a proper and sustainable distribution of labor.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 02:23:12 UTC No. 16478475

>>16478360
>This still doesnt explain what is criminal about illegal immigration.

It's trespassing, essentially.

You're saying there's no difference between someone knocking on your door and asking to come in, versus climbing in through an open window.

You honestly seem like a terrible person, so I hope you take your own advice and immigrate to another website.

>Just because criminals have to immigrate illegally doesnt mean that illegal immigrants are criminals.

Right, but those people are the ones we're concerned about. The ones that aren't concerned about abiding by the law. The ones that would be disproportionately skewed to be illegal immigrants rather than legal ones.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 02:26:51 UTC No. 16478481

>>16478402

You are a terrible person and so full of yourself that you are a drag to everyone around you.

You have decided you can arbitrarily decide what is and isn't a crime, and that laws don't matter in that.

You ignore trespassing is a crime for good reason. You ignore that flying or walking somewhere is a crime depending on if you go to restricted space.

>There is simply no path for an alleged "good person" to simply immigrate to a country. All paths are closed, people get fucking green cards with a fucking lottery!

Your doublespeak is astounding. Marriage is a not entirely unreasonable way of vetting people. The lottery is after they've demonstrated they're good people.

You say there is no path and then lay out paths. You are a moron of the lowest caliber.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 04:11:13 UTC No. 16478557

>>16478475
>It's trespassing, essentially.
No it isnt, the land outside of your house isnt your private property. The country isnt your home
Now try to make an argument that doesnt involve some stretched analogy. Talk about the actual issue at hand
>>16478481
>You have decided you can arbitrarily decide what is and isn't a crime,
Pure projection on your part. Its you calling immigration a crime when the legislature has called it a misdemeanor, yet you accuse me of being "arbitrary" when its you changing the meaning of words.
>>16478481
>Marriage is a not entirely unreasonable way of vetting people. The lottery is after they've demonstrated they're good people.
There are no paths to citizenship except pure luck or shit that has nothing to do with being a good person. Marriage? Ha, anyone can pay anyone to marry for a green card.
Still waiting on you to show how a good person immigration becomes ebil if the same person living the same life doesnt jump through a bunch of retarded loops like winning some lottery.
In the past the path was as easy as just showing up at the border. I bet thats how you or your grandpappy became a citizen, didnt he? Your greasy fatfuck of a grandfather just rolled into ellis island, zero checks and zero fucks given

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 05:08:25 UTC No. 16478605

>>16464280
>churning out Java Spring code
>smart
What the fuck am I reading...

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 06:22:52 UTC No. 16478645

>>16466414
Zoomers are retarded in jeetland too it's not a location issue. It was the plastic in the water

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 08:49:59 UTC No. 16478734

>>16478605
Anon he said "smart", not smart.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 08:57:46 UTC No. 16478739

>>16478257
>govenment knew where i was because i had to show them my passport at the airport. I was not an immigrant but i could have simply decided to overstay
Sure. To minimize this risk, they check whether you also bought a ticket back. If you didn't, you'd be subject to more thorough searching and questioning.
>Being an illegal immigrant doesnt mean the governmemt doesnt know where you are, so your point is wrong
I never claimed that. My point can't be wrong because that's literally written into law (that the government must know who's inside).
>You imagine
Now you're just plain trolling. I talked about a single thing and specifically said that it's ONE reason. I'm fully aware that there are various methods of becoming an illegal immigrant.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 08:59:19 UTC No. 16478741

>>16478257
I don't get what you want to say with the rest of your points btw. They add zero arguments or insight or anything to this discussion.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:00:29 UTC No. 16479113

>>16478557
There is no reason to discuss something any further with someone as wretched as you.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:08:18 UTC No. 16479484

>>16478221
It doesn't take much to destroy an advanced civilisation. If a major solar flare hit the earth 100 years ago not much would happen, if it would hit today, you can kiss civilisation goodbye.

Actually, never mind a solar flare, would an average person even know how the electric infrastructure works in any real detail? There are now so many advanced systems that are so complex that you can't possibly expect people to understand them all beyond a surface level, and when you try to learn about everything, you end up knowing nothing.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:18:09 UTC No. 16479504

>>16465983
The decline in rigor is directly related to No Child Left Behind which specifically made it impossible to ever fail those who are now today's DEI beneficiaries. Are you even 18?

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 19:34:13 UTC No. 16479649

>>16477403
Your shitty sophistical argument gets debunked by the word invasion.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 19:53:52 UTC No. 16479670

>>16478178
>Or they are overblown. Consider how allegedly NASA forgot how to make rockets, it doesn't matter as the knowledge still exists, obviously many countries can make rockets that can go to space and now private companies make them as well, the "loss of knowledge" was fixed by just hiring a team of engineers to develop things again.

Negro doctors are a separate issue. Doctors are customer service product, they don't do real science. That is all done by Phds. Minority doctors have better outcomes with minority patients as people are more likely to follow council of their doctors if they are of the same race. Blacks and asians will rate a white doctor more intelligent and more competent and still not do what he says but they will listen to their race doctors.

Also in the heighday science there was more black doctors than there are now. The flexnor report that resulted in the removal of part time schooling in med school being acceptable for accreditation kept both rural whites and inner city blacks out of the profession as most of them paid their way through school working as surgical scrub techs or medical assistant equivalents under local doctors while going to school with half the course load. We are still feeling the fallout in this in that inner cities and farm communities do not have doctors anymore. Only WASP whites and Jews got to stay in the club, they even try to keep both kinds of asians out to hoard the shekels to themselves. You are saving money on healthcare by having black GPs as the blacks will take their cholesterol medication when a black GP tells them too.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 19:57:47 UTC No. 16479677

>>16478091
>this. The sheer amount of experts resting on their laurels &or dragging their feet when it comes to any kind of innovation is staggering. You'd think people would have learned from the missed opportunities of major conglomerates who gave up on early access to phone technology, polaroids, personal computing, etc.

Because they don't care. Engineers are no longer in charge of engineering firms. Bean counters and middle management types just care about expanding their personal fiefdoms as large as they can within the structure until they retire. Even stock sharing doesn't incentives them enough to manage long term as the short term reward social status in the power structure of the company and lack of loyalty from companies in general now incentives get what you can now and sleep with the hot interns over retiring with a few extra shares.

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 01:57:15 UTC No. 16480095

>>16479670
>Flexnor Report
How the flying fuck did a failed psychology major who never did medical school himself was allowed to lead and advise the logistics of medical education resources?

It's one thing to advocate for higher standards in medical training/education. It's another to gut entire regions of local doctors and basically stratify the profession itself.

No wonder so many Americans have shit health overall. More local doctors might have actually prevented the high obesity rates and regulate opioid usage.

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 02:11:39 UTC No. 16480112

>>16476713
There should be standards, otherwise you have christcucks claiming the world is 6000 years old and teaching billy joe to die for israel

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 02:14:02 UTC No. 16480114

>>16474163
Former teacher here

There are a lot of reasons that the education system is failing. But the big ones are

>Rampant corruption
>Lack of support from parents or lack of parents for that matter
>Low expectations
>Bad behavior from kids across the board
>teachers being heavily restricted on what they can do and end up being delegated as baby sitters/paper pushers

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 02:17:41 UTC No. 16480118

>>16470781
Or maybe it's just because they're arab mutts who only know how to plunder

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 02:58:29 UTC No. 16480148

>>16480095
>Flexner grew up in an Orthodox Jewish family; however, early on he became a religious agnostic

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 03:59:56 UTC No. 16480189

>>16480148

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 18:32:06 UTC No. 16481011

>>16480114
Exact same things happen at universities, although bad behavior is not as rampant as in schools.

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 00:56:14 UTC No. 16481515

>>16476853
But only in recent human history have they been allowed to thrive at the expense of higher classes.

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 02:11:38 UTC No. 16481596

>>16464064
Unlike the retards here I am a skilled tradesman(welder). I can tell you the reason why its hard to find GOOD tradesman of all kinds. Mexicans destroyed the job market. I can make more money at a warehouse or a factory with better working conditions, pay and benefits. There are ultra high skill jobs that pay well BUT its almost impossible to get one since you have to be extremely skilled and experienced which is impossible since nobody will hire you if you dont have that insane skill and exp already so young tradies are forced to do shit jobs with spics forever, never improving or moving forward in his career while the number of old boomers who pulled up the drawbridge behind them dwindles. Youll always be able to find a spic that can booger weld rebar on a construction site but the number of people who can do FAA certified x ray inspected welds will continue to shrink. The same is true of all trades. The problem is that society would collapse without these people, forcing companies to hire people with no exp and train them would be a good start. All the smart tradies under 50 all work at walmart, in a factory/warehouse or are in university if they havent started their own business to boss around spic slaves with.

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 02:17:24 UTC No. 16481597

>>16464879
Peak oil in 2 weeks

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 02:53:58 UTC No. 16481622

>>16464064
The root cause is an insufficient level of learning to properly deal with society's ever-changing problems, resulting in the accumulation of problems that demotivates learning in a death spiral of ignorance and carelessness.

The cause of this is an insufficient societal value of learning that comes from insufficient ability to inspire learning.

What is needed is a massive project to promote love of learning: to promote curiosity and creativity.

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 02:54:50 UTC No. 16481623

>>16465466
Best way to fix a school is wholesale replacement of shitty children with good ones

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 02:56:48 UTC No. 16481627

>>16481622
To add to this there are actors, organizations and trends that actively demonize education and learning because it is a threat to their power and profit.

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 03:00:08 UTC No. 16481629

>>16475820
>>16475820
>funny how immigration is the only act that needs to be labeled as illegal to be a crime.
>illegal settlements
>illegal shelter
>illegal parking
>illegal tender
>illegal trespassing
You were saying?

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 03:02:18 UTC No. 16481632

>>16476929
propensity to read books and understand them will correlate with complexity. Also, "just follow the unchanging instructions" doesn't scale with difficulty and complexity of the subject. For instance, most people wouldn't just be able to pick up a math undergrad book and just be able to start following the proofs.

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 03:07:42 UTC No. 16481645

>>16476847
>Your whole post is so wrong that not even the opposite is true

>>STEM is far less rigorous than it has ever been

If this isn't true then does that not mean that you agree with the anon?

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 06:48:47 UTC No. 16481814

>>16481645
There isn't just
>thing
and
>opposite of thing
in this world, Anon. There's nuance. And you both lack it.

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 20:14:31 UTC No. 16483056

I'm stuck demoralized.
School didn't prepare me for a job, it was expressly for college, and it was not interesting.
Maybe I missed out because I left early but it had already wasted my time too long.
If trades and manufacturing is undercut by illegals, and college looks like more of the same uncertain grind, what does one do?
I don't know anything pertinent to real life, I don't have any profitable passion, and I blame school for wasting my time. Though now I am wasting my time without clear directions and hope.
Too fast for the simplegoy production line but too dull to pathfind outside of it.

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 21:13:30 UTC No. 16483262

>>16483056
>what does one do?
Found your own startup.

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 12:31:21 UTC No. 16486243

>>16464064
It means that the productive intelligent minority in this system of managerial feudalism, that we live in, is getting tired and exhausted of breeding billions of niggers and that they are so stressed out, that they are no longer reproducing.
The entire world is turning into an IQ shredder, sourcing intelligence and competence from the least intelligent, most miserable human subspecies.

If you don't understand what I mean - one bricklayer or programmer should have enough money from the material wealth he produces to basically own a mansion, a small harem, slaves and a car.
But instead of that happening, the government, corporations and social groups step in to first tokenize that wealth.
They then take it away to redistribute it to those slaves and to the harem, who they also give half the mansion and the car to.
This all happens under the guise of morality (which the only purpose of morals is to enforce the status quo of society) and is enforced under threat of violence.
Either way, those slaves and the harem remain retards and whores respectively. Only now, they live for free, excluded from the one guy who single-handedly provides for all of them with his work.

The dichotomy of the economy:

https://youtu.be/RYdmWa-i7Gs

https://twitter.com/i/status/1565416437946224643
https://www.tiktok.com/@natasha.badger/video/7066158697243823406

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 13:31:37 UTC No. 16486320

>>16483056
Good news for you is that most people don't have a clue until their late 20s. If you are figuring this out right after highschool you are lucky. Don't listen to the previous generations and just prepare yourself with one of the professions that won't be obsolete in next 15 years and you'll be good.

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 14:37:30 UTC No. 16486403

This is a good thing
Each day I become more and more hateful of technology and scientists

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 14:39:26 UTC No. 16486404

>>16483056
I’m planning on buying rural land in Maine and trying to fuck off from technology
Industrial society is a sinking ship and I want outb

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 15:20:27 UTC No. 16486441

Why has nobody mentioned stuff like iPad kids and TikTok? Generation alpha is going to be even more lobotomized than gen z, they will know nothing more than instant gratification

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 00:54:45 UTC No. 16487279

>>16486243
Wealth is forcibly redisitributed because regardless of how highly you think of yourself, you're more often than not a byproduct of your environment and upbringing, and the society you live that allowed you your current lifestyle is sustained by the less fortunate. You're not self made, you constantly use what others have produced and leverage these services and infrastructure to sustain your lifestyle, to make up for that and to maintain a peaceful and functional society, you have to give back to the community that allowed you to be where you are in the first place.
Not all professions are profitable, but everyone needs food on their plate to keep society running.

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 00:58:22 UTC No. 16487287

>>16478734
My bad. My emotions got the best of me when I saw India, Java, Spring and smart in the same sentence.

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 05:44:03 UTC No. 16487552

>>16480095
corr propa good kittingtonahire diss one, hafta be said

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 12:02:47 UTC No. 16487763

>>16486243
>should
>>16487279
>you have to

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 12:30:39 UTC No. 16487781

>>16466533
Funny how those guys created quantum mechanics while today's physicists can't do shit

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 23:50:20 UTC No. 16488531

>>16486403
Don't hate the players. Hate the game.
Honestly, it's not the scientist's fault their names are butchered and abused by downfall accelerationists. They're still trying to do good work. Real scientists, that is. Not activists posing as scientists.

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 23:51:39 UTC No. 16488533

>>16466533
>STEM is far more rigorous than it has ever been
hahahahaha, aw lawwwd
>what is the replication crisis
Thanks for the laffs, Anon.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 00:07:13 UTC No. 16488555

>>16465466
Just the natural order being restored. Simple as.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 00:18:14 UTC No. 16488565

>>16477204
No is not. Murder is only a crime because some legal code says it. It can become legal at any time to exterminate demons and parasites.
The supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived is violence.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 00:55:56 UTC No. 16488600

>>16477403
in fact the meaning of 'murder' is 'illegal killing' in contrast to 'legal killing' which can exist in many jurisdictions such as certain states of america under the castle doctrine

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 02:08:39 UTC No. 16490077

Today I stumbled upon a military recipe book. There's good knowledge in here. In both middle and high school I took electives about food, but learnt nothing. We would cook once a week, 1 hour of 4.5, and I don't remember any that was an actual meal. (Mug cake and rice krispies, unironically.) This singular page was more educational than the entire course. And this is just BASIC FOOD.

What we've got is time-wasting paperwork. If nobody is teaching where does the next generation learn? It's the responsibility of the knowledgable to teach and not the student to educate himself, he can't know what he is missing.

The system's all set up to waste talented people. Wasting their time and not guiding them. The fortunate best find their own way out, but a lot of midwits and unluckier people don't make it.

>Schools are already in the business of rationing knowledge. The idea and practice of "challenging examinations," being able to get credit in a course if you already know what the course is supposed to teach, has essentially disappeared, because, as Oregon's Secretary of Public Instruction Gubser told me, "what students know doesn't have anything to do with education."
Ray Peat

I'm lucky my state had an early exit exam at all and still it's functionally arbitrarily age-floored (15) to anyone who doesn't have parents based enough to homeschool them.

We had whistleblowers about our education system at least thirty years ago, and just like every other government sabotage/incompetence/scandal nothing was done which led to reformation or revolution and now we pay.

>>16483262
I wish I had any idea that seems financially viable.

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 03:04:55 UTC No. 16490118

🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:21:39 UTC No. 16490334

>>16476699
Genetic engineering / eugenics is 100% necessary to break this cycle.

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:57:02 UTC No. 16490357

>>16464064
>If nobody is teaching where does the next generation learn?
Nepotism. If mom, dad, uncle and aunt are highly skilled STEM PhD's at some prestigious institution whether it's a university or a business that develops technology then so will their children. The only ''problem'' is that skilled maintenance requires working at night, in the weekends and holidays and ''no one'' wants to do that anymore despite an attractive salary or so ''they'' say. And so we pay more for less quality services.

Speaking in terms of ''competency crisis'' is a way to hide the true causes which are political and capitalistic in nature.

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 12:22:43 UTC No. 16490366

>>16487279
>>Wealth is forcibly redisitributed because regardless of how highly you think of yourself, you're more often than not a byproduct of your environment and upbringing, and the society you live that allowed you your current lifestyle is sustained by the less fortunate.
if it is society which creates rich people, then why doesnt society create more rich people

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 12:32:04 UTC No. 16490376

>>16464064
It's call the "Competence Crisis"
not the "Incompetence Crisis"

I think the systems threatened by raising competency are publishers, editors, and consulting agencies. Their services will become less valuable. Any marketing research data they might have could be trash, manipulated or fabricated by social platforms.

If you want to reach an audience you're not going to pander to SEO rankings created by algorithms. Because people know visibility isn't popularity.

Then there's the whole subscription based proprietary software, compelling people to do more with less, faster.

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 22:53:04 UTC No. 16492054

>>16465902
>Ok Irving
Are you also one of those people who think 16 to 25 y/o females shouldn't be held accountable for anything but at the same time they should be allowed to vote and hold public offices of great importance? just a question fwiw.

>>16487781
Partly because of the strong gatekeeping. Even the equations in textbooks and tables these days have been doctored to hide important truths to protect energy related rackets and 'muh it could be used for bad thangs keep it secret do it it for the childrens'. Hint: Oliver Heaviside.
>>16466533

>>16490077
>We would cook once a week, 1 hour of 4.5, and I don't remember any that was an actual meal. (Mug cake and rice krispies, unironically.) This singular page was more educational than the entire course. And this is just BASIC FOOD.
Because you're 'supposed to be a ward from cradle to grave' let the Table of the Secret Sacred Knights of Lucerne take care of you! You don't need to know how to do anything for yourself just open a bank account and work and when you have enough credits you may buy! How dare you interrupt industry and financial transactions by making something yourself!!! How dare you seek to know the most basic bitch things in life when five hundred including a sea of middle managers of questionable importance $$$$tand to profit greatly from your incompetence! HOW DARE YOU! ARE YOU SICK? Have you had too much to THINK, anon!??

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 23:02:41 UTC No. 16492059

>>16490376
>compelling people to do more with less money*
ftfy. the software industry has been coopted with the Eternal Ward Industry. You don't need to know how anything works just pay these special people and that's all you need to do.

>>16490376
>systems threatened by raising competency are publishers, editors, and consulting agencies
Publishers? They are the ones who printed and procured the books that many people have learned from for centuries? They way they would be threatened is lack of anyone competent enough to write a book worth buying in the first place. If you look at the runup to WWII just after 1929 one of the first things influential European entities did was buy up book publishing companies in the the United States o f America. Hmmm why would they do that?

>>16490376
>SEO rankings created by algorithms..popularity
People who are truly competent and advanced in their fields aren't obsessed with SEO rankings or popularity. They communicate among peers directly and professionally socialize and network directly or through industry groups, guilds and conferences. Those are normie NPC tier concerns.

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 23:07:24 UTC No. 16492066

>>16490357
>if no body is teaching
A greater issue is keeping secret things which were acquired or found out on the public dime. If they how to make even the most basic or needful things is kept a secret even things developed on the public dime (research wise) how can you teach anyone how to do or make anything if its all kept in some Global Corp Secret Safe?

Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 01:43:54 UTC No. 16492269

>>16492066
>If * how * to make even the most basic or needful things is kept a secret ...

Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 03:07:21 UTC No. 16492365

>>16490334
bro? your transhumanism?

🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 23:51:45 UTC No. 16493481

>>16490077
>Sift the flour to ensure accurate measurement
you're better off doing your measuring by weight rather than by volume if you want to get consistent results

Anonymous at Tue, 26 Nov 2024 00:09:59 UTC No. 16493495

>>16465390
Sure they do. Why did the smart people come here in the first place? Because it pays better plus has a better quality of life. When we fall, the smart people will leave. that's what brain drain is.

Anonymous at Tue, 26 Nov 2024 05:29:49 UTC No. 16493762

>>16476838
literally the MO of private equity
>we can run on a skeleton crew so let's strip the place dry for the sake of cost cutting and efficiency until we pawn it off
oh wait you retards in america just voted for those people to run your country

🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 27 Nov 2024 04:27:29 UTC No. 16494850

>>16493762
>>>/pol/

🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 01:29:52 UTC No. 16495720

>>16465390
>the backbreaking physical labor that still has to be done.
That doesn't exist anymore, we have machines for everything these days. There are pretty almost zero jobs outside of athletics which require substantial physical labor. Being a mover is the only remaining commonly available job you can get that will give you a decent workout while you get paid for it.

Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 11:45:47 UTC No. 16496099

>>16464226
>Other places will suffer brain drain, not the US
lol

Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 21:31:05 UTC No. 16496555

>>16496099
the idea of "brain drain" is a longstanding popular meme, but thats not what your image depicts, it depicts an expansion of the influence of brainlets which isn't necessarily the same as a brain drain.
is there a common english idiom similar to "brain drain" which describes what happens when tons of morons are placed in positions of responsibility?

Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 23:20:17 UTC No. 16496643

>>16496099
That's less of a brain drain and more of a recalibration of resources.

Basically most of your "NASA tier" scientists went into research and development for semiconductors, internet and cloud technology. The rest went to play hide n seek with Quantum and Dark Matter.

>>16496555

Given context (the women in pic below aren't morons since they're most likely college graduates) this would actually be the equivalent of second and third string roster for a sports team.

Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 23:50:52 UTC No. 16496666

>>16496643
>research and development for semiconductors
Is that why Intel is struggling with their fabs? lol

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Nov 2024 07:08:30 UTC No. 16496948

>>16464064
>Are the alarmists just scaremomgering?

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Nov 2024 09:17:08 UTC No. 16497018

>>16465346
>Most accidents occur because you take shit for granted
Source?

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Nov 2024 15:06:57 UTC No. 16498249

>>16496666
Evil people that own the fabs can only destroy and never create. The moment it moved from silicon valley to the pits of hell it was over.

Anonymous at Sun, 1 Dec 2024 08:06:14 UTC No. 16499005

>>16498249
>The moment it moved from silicon valley to the pits of hell it was over.
There were fabs in Texas too.

Anonymous at Sun, 1 Dec 2024 10:18:05 UTC No. 16499083

>>16464064
Just an aside, you won’t notice, the collapse will already be in full swing for 100 years, you will be born in a time of retreating standards of living and crime, and falling government and still think you are in a empire.
People in Roman still thought they were in Rome 120 years after it was a petty kingdom still using the same titles.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 1 Dec 2024 23:14:21 UTC No. 16499679

>>16464064
its a race to see if the gamer uprising occurs first or if the collapse of the gaming infrastructure does. one path leads to a glorious future amongst the stars, the other leads back to the caveman days

Anonymous at Mon, 2 Dec 2024 00:34:38 UTC No. 16499743

>>16481515
The rich and powerful are, always have been, and always will be sociopathic midwits. There's nothing higher about them aside from social standing.

Anonymous at Mon, 2 Dec 2024 03:12:40 UTC No. 16499822

>>16465466
Empire of Dust…

Anonymous at Mon, 2 Dec 2024 03:46:40 UTC No. 16499839

>>16464064
>Are the alarmists just scaremomgering?
Probably, if needs must I'm pretty sure most countries can ''draft'' people to maintain important infrastructure. in most cases it would look something along the lines of
>Random power plant personel retire or die
>Call people from 2 or 3 other places to train new people and learn the local jank
>Repeat until the rocki kicked down the road

Anonymous at Mon, 2 Dec 2024 13:35:27 UTC No. 16500162

Humans want to overcomplicate the most basic shit as a form of subconscious pretension I swear to god.

Even cavemen knew men could not get pregnant. “Unga no BUMga”…

Anonymous at Mon, 2 Dec 2024 14:15:55 UTC No. 16500185

>>16464064 (You)
My take is that the push for hyperspecific specializations came with terrible consequences. It is an effective way to rapidly expand our capitalist wealth, and maybe even knowledge, but it leaves behind gaping interdisciplinary holes leading to eventual stagnation, and drives markets to failure as price-adjusting information becomes too rare by institutions benefiting from gatekeeping and incestuous scientism (such as by denying externalities). Moreover the education costs inflate massively. The midwit now needs nearly 30 years now of schooling to produce anything remotely marginally novel. We are in an age or microdiscoveries which cannot be communicated and thus not woven together to be re-ified into deeper more generalizable thought.

The competency crisis is a such a crisis of the cost of capitalism's infinite growth spook.

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 3 Dec 2024 04:57:39 UTC No. 16500925

>>16499743
if they're so dumb why can't you easily usurp their wealth and social status?
>everyone who is more wealthy than me is dumb and evil
seems like a jealousy induced cope.
let me guess, is every less wealthy than you lazy and stupid? and that leaves you being just perfect of course…

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Dec 2024 12:05:05 UTC No. 16501113

>>16464226
Hahahahaha
USA is crashing straight into the ditch in a massive ball of fire. All self inflicted by idiots in govt

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Dec 2024 16:12:58 UTC No. 16501234

>>16465279
The negro west is losing against the asiatic slavic east.
Genghis Khan > Mansa Musa

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Dec 2024 16:16:43 UTC No. 16501235

>>16499743
>The rich and powerful are, always have been, and always will be sociopathic midwits
No.
In the past aristocracies had skin in the game.
Kings even died on the field (sometimes).

The problem is that modern "elites" are not elites.
This is the end result of the russian revolution, french revolution and WW2 when the merchant class murdered and replaced the last of the noble blood.
A merchant can be ruthless, can be good at war and even doing business but he will neve be a true noble.

The problem of our century is that we are under a fake aristocracy. There are no true nobles, just monkeys wearing the skin and rags of old nobility.

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:22:54 UTC No. 16502598

>>16464064
>what causes a society to become incapable of maintaining itself
Feminism, but who is behind promoting feminism? Tolerating those who promote destructive ideologies is the ultimate problem.

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:22:18 UTC No. 16502688

>>16475796
>you dont really see those things in Africa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Liberian_Civil_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierra_Leone_Civil_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conflicts_in_Africa

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:25:05 UTC No. 16502698

>>16490334
why didn't it work the first time, then?

🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 21:50:39 UTC No. 16502739

>>16502698
What first time?

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 08:34:52 UTC No. 16503374

>>16476699
>low iq, ugly and generally unsuitable for improvement of the human condition as a result of genetics + upbringing
>already donated my fucked up sperm on several occasions in several different locations
im the problem bros...

🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 03:45:26 UTC No. 16504490

>>16475796
>The media

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Dec 2024 04:54:16 UTC No. 16505534

>>16502598
>but who is behind promoting feminism?

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Dec 2024 06:02:26 UTC No. 16505562

>>16464226
>Other places will suffer brain drain, not the US
lol
https://sccei.fsi.stanford.edu/china-briefs/reverse-brain-drain-exploring-trends-among-chinese-scientists-us

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Dec 2024 08:07:30 UTC No. 16505604

>>16502688
>comparing geopolitical level coups and civil wars with gangster culture

Those two aren't even remotely the same.

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Dec 2024 23:43:35 UTC No. 16506259

>>16464064
Will 4chan survive the competency crisis?

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Dec 2024 23:57:07 UTC No. 16506269

>>16475796
>Black gangster culture is something that is only learned through media

A person's peers have a much larger impact on them than any media. No everyone watches media 24/7.

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Dec 2024 00:11:31 UTC No. 16506282

>>16478221
This is because of increased specialization for the sake of efficiency. When SHTF, most people in urban areas would die, and the survivors would be people in poor and undeveloped countries. Specialists won't survive outside of their niche while generalists can.

The ironic reason why this so is people in advanced societies are more domesticated and thus are more dependent on the agents of their domestication. They offload so many of their tasks to others that they become almost like children. In a disaster scenario, they would run around like headless chickens without their smartphones and fact checkers telling them what to do.

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Dec 2024 00:32:27 UTC No. 16506298

>>16464064
Firefighting natural fires was a mistake

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Dec 2024 04:47:04 UTC No. 16506403

>>16478252
>legal murder
There is a such thing as legal killing (as murder is defined as unlawful homicide) such as by soliders in war, self-defense, or executioners sanctioned by the state
>legal theft
Taxes, eminent domain, squatter's rights, seizure of assets to pay debts, etc.
Thievery is unlawful taking of goods
>legal jaywalking
Jaywalking is defined as crossing the street without legal right to cross. Using the crosswalk would be crossing the street legally on a crosswalk or parking lot

The examples you gave go against your argument. Illegal immigration is when you live in the country without lawful basis, just like how murder is homicide without lawful basis, theft is taking of property without lawful basis, and jaywalking is crossing the street without lawful basis.

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Dec 2024 20:43:42 UTC No. 16507055

>>16464064
America never had its own STEM talent pipeline and has always survived on brain drain form Europe and Asia. Now that Europe is dying out and Asia will no longer part with their scientists and engineers, there won't be enough technical people to keep vital infrastructure running.

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 20:44:01 UTC No. 16508072

>>16464064
It's literally what happens for a few reasons:

1) Your intelligent workers grow old and retired/disappear without replacement
2) You put retards in charge of knowledge management
3) Leadership stops understanding the NUANCE of solutions and even simplicity

Basically, old guard leaves with all their knowledge spread around poorly, assumptions for why they did what they did isn't understood or recorded, knowledge that is preserved is incredibly poorly organized making it almost useless (because why waste the big brains of your org on that?!), people in leadership positions have never done anything near technical work they're in charge of, so they don't understand nuances, and everyone has to rely on systems from the old guard that has zero documentation.

This is by the way the situation at all the federal labs and it's why NASA can't even preserve schematics. Add to this a fractured society where now tech workers are much more likely to keep documentation in their head only or on their personal files for job security AND job jump every 2-5 years and we're all FUCKED.

CEOs and Private Equity should be shot dead for causing this environment to infest every sector of society. They spread this mind disease first.

Hopefully the new admin completely crashes the federal side of this house of cards because part of the reason shit is fucked is because this mind disease spread to govvie wagies.

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 02:50:02 UTC No. 16508362

Ok but how do I go about building a tedshed and leading a cult around medieval technology to populate my pre industrial society without elon musk waco sieging my place to build another X AI propaganda data center on it?

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 03:39:03 UTC No. 16508399

Ycombinator had a good thread on it somewhat recently. In any large project you will start using tools that automate increasingly complex tasks and due to cost reasons or just wanting to be more efficient, people will come that use these tools but do not know how they're developed. Eventually the people who developed these tools will leave and you're left with tools you cannot recreate, tweak or even maintain. That was a real problem at a company I used to work where some guy wrote a program for a certain type of machine but didn't know how to tweak it for a new model. I eventually reverse engineered it to make it work for the new model. Sometime later I left that job without teaching anyone how it actually worked and it apparently became a problem down the line.

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 03:43:28 UTC No. 16508403

>>16508399
Sorry, small mistake:
>where some guy wrote a program for a certain type of machine but didn't know how to tweak it for a new model
*the old guy left before the new model, they (anyone currently hired there) didn't know how to tweak it

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 03:43:48 UTC No. 16508404

>>16508072
This is partially from short term profits over long term sustainability, partially from prioritizing shareholder profits over the benefit of the employees. When businesses were considered "owned by their shareholders" more than being "comprised of their workers," that was likely a key moment that spelled the doom for the West, in a long series of cascading consequences.
Businesses should be custodians, institutions, keepers of an art. Instead they're more like grifters trying to fleece people and ban competition.

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 03:46:53 UTC No. 16508406

>>16508399
>Ycombinator
>a good thread
Hacker News is mostly nutbags with a control fetish that they think can seize power over humanity through tech built by the people who create defective device drivers. To the extent that they're capable of having a "good" discussion about anything, it's by unintentionally exposing the above. They seriously think they can have some type of all knowing AI and an army of robots to run the world at their command. Meanwhile in reality, the most popular OS randomly deletes files after an update written by the "best" programmers on Earth.

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 03:56:25 UTC No. 16508413

>>16478356
>The immigration process is meant to demonstrate you aren't a criminal in your home country and that you will be able to integrate in your new country.
1. they all overstay their visas proving they are criminals
2. they don't integrate

Deseregation of schools has lowered education to the lowest common denominator. Couple that with DEI practices and then the standard lowers even further.

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 11:26:32 UTC No. 16508622

>>16464879
peak oil theory was only shilled to make oil seem scarce. in reality that shit is mad abundant. oil is abiotic and it is plentiful. we could all be fuckin robot fuckers that eat oil and still have enough left to feed africa. thousands of resource extraction zones lie in wait to be sold to the highest bidder.

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 17:19:20 UTC No. 16508877

>>16464064
Non-whites, women and the human beehive drones who defend them.

Anonymous at Wed, 11 Dec 2024 02:09:56 UTC No. 16509402

>>16508406
The thread just had a bunch of people in the industry talking about a problem they've encountered and some people there share their credentials so you can look them up so you know they're not larpers. They aren't a monolith just like 4chan isn't. Does posting on /sci/ automatically mean you love anime because 4ch is an anime site?

Anonymous at Wed, 11 Dec 2024 10:57:30 UTC No. 16509697

>>16478557
biggest clown on the board right now

Anonymous at Wed, 11 Dec 2024 21:10:25 UTC No. 16510064

>>16478557
>The country isnt your home
Yes it fucking is.

Anonymous at Wed, 11 Dec 2024 21:18:27 UTC No. 16510071

>>16496099
lol did no one ask the black dude if he could leave his desk so he wouldn't be in the photo?

Anonymous at Wed, 11 Dec 2024 22:02:14 UTC No. 16510102

>>16478360
>doesnt mean that illegal immigrants are criminals.
Be definition, becoming an illegal immigrant IS a criminal offense.

Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 06:04:22 UTC No. 16510438

Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 04:24:02 UTC No. 16511324

>>16510438
all a result of desegregation of education

Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 03:35:12 UTC No. 16512293

>>16511324
Correct, the Ns aren't able to get educated at the same rate Whites are so education needs to be dumbed down to the point that Ns can pass.
But every time you dumb it down the Ns just get lazier and continue to fail anyway

Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 04:49:30 UTC No. 16513462

>>16464064
look at who is shilling all of the things that lead to societal decay and you'll soon understand the root cause of the problem

Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 05:01:50 UTC No. 16513469

imagine you were one of the big shots and you saw the writing on the wall that workers will no longer be of any use in the near future. Well depending on how cruel you are youd want them either dead, pacified or pacified before theyre dead.
Theyre placing the big bets on AI and you can see that by whats investors highest priority.
The competency crisis is no accident is by design in the same way slaves used to get punished if they found out they were trying to learn how to read.

Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 07:10:26 UTC No. 16513562

>>16464064
>What does it mean for a society to "deskill" itself?
It means your society has a jew infestation.

Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 07:12:16 UTC No. 16513566

>>16486403
Ted was an incel who nearly trooned out.
Anybody who admires him is a faggot.

Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 09:18:32 UTC No. 16513610

>>16477781
>That was more cronyism than anything
It was negroism, many such cases

Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 11:42:16 UTC No. 16513656

>>16464064
Maybe. Maybe not. My country deskilled by removing education and industry and importing pre-skilled adult labour for roles. The pre-skilled migrant labour turned out to be less well trained than advertised. So now things we took for granted don't work properly, and the people that can maintain systems get paid well, but are also carrying on their backs largely useless people. I would think with the sheer number of people on the planet though, skills won't be lost, they'll just become re-concentrated in certain areas.

Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 12:14:54 UTC No. 16513685

all countries have engineers, doctors, trains etc...
In most countries buildings dont collapse, surgeries are successful and trains dont derail.
You go in with the mentality that the service must be worse cause of the white brand no different from cocacola. theres very few people that cant be replaced.

Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 19:54:48 UTC No. 16513958

>>16510438
Calculate the top.

Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 20:03:55 UTC No. 16513959

>>16513958
sure okay so radius 5 radius 10, 30 and 20
okay so firsr we get the carea of the rectangle
20*30=600
then we get the areas of the circles
5^2*3.14=78.5
10^2*3.14=314
those look like a quarter of a circle so lets divide each by 4
19.625+78.5=98.125
then we substract the quarter of circles from the rectangle area
600-98.125=501.875 total area

Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 20:50:16 UTC No. 16514014

>>16513959
Bait.

Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 21:39:00 UTC No. 16514065

>>16514014
oh i didnt notice the edges were round. It doesnt say the angle or length however so id have to guess theyre 45 degrees...
if it were a rectangle with circles itd check out though.

Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 21:58:37 UTC No. 16514079

People just don't want to admit what this really is. A drop in intelligence across the board as a result of stupid people breeding at an accelerated rate for the last century.
Average people are too stupid to be competent that's all it is. No blaming technology, "socioeconomic factors", systems, institutions whatever safe scapegoat that doesn't hurt people's feelings. People are just fucking stupid. They can't even learn basic math or become literate and you expect them to be competent in a real job.

Anonymous at Tue, 17 Dec 2024 04:07:48 UTC No. 16515495

>>16514079
whenever life gets easier that means that its easier for low IQ people to survive, which in turn makes humanity stupider. thats why trump using the vax to cull the low IQs was so based.

Anonymous at Tue, 17 Dec 2024 04:25:03 UTC No. 16515526

>>16496099

Anonymous at Tue, 17 Dec 2024 04:34:29 UTC No. 16515538

>>16476710
>women's suffrage
Why exactly is this such a big fucking problem according to americans? Why do they never bring up "midwit suffrage" it's obvious the harm comes from people without analysis skills, with selfish ambition and no interest in common well being, why do they always reduce it to women?

Anonymous at Tue, 17 Dec 2024 04:42:57 UTC No. 16515543

>>16501235
Kings haven't dies on the field since 1100, allegedly even.

The rich class is as much idiotic as the rest, it's just a sample of the bigger pool of people. They just have the capability to get more education and a better position in society. It's them who start proposing self-serving bullshit as "charities" or "homes for the poor" that only enable unsustainable practices without seeing the big picture.

The rich yet have little power other than consumption. Inequality among the rich has grown so large that only a handful stand above the pile and so the pool of people with the power and will to make the world a better place reduces to zero. Only retards with big mouths remain.

Anonymous at Tue, 17 Dec 2024 04:45:13 UTC No. 16515546

>>16514079
on average maybe but not acros the board. theres more smart people now than 100yrs ago

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 17 Dec 2024 05:12:58 UTC No. 16515564

>>16476710
Says the Republitard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vVOuXmQM20

Anonymous at Wed, 18 Dec 2024 03:19:46 UTC No. 16516592

>>16515564
>>>/pol/

Anonymous at Wed, 18 Dec 2024 23:58:31 UTC No. 16517516

>>16496099
Is there a term similar to "brain drain" which describes injecting a society with an excessive amount of retards in order to cripple it?

Anonymous at Thu, 19 Dec 2024 00:28:47 UTC No. 16517546

>>16517516
>Is there a term similar to "brain drain" which describes injecting a society with an excessive amount of retards in order to cripple it?

African immigration

Anonymous at Thu, 19 Dec 2024 01:48:27 UTC No. 16517596

>>16464064
Our banking system relies on fortran. Jeets shit code in python.

Anonymous at Thu, 19 Dec 2024 10:37:31 UTC No. 16517898

>>16464064
Between 20 and 80 percent of all the tasks needed to do a certain job are not in the manual, and probably can't be expressed let alone written down.

These tasks are not passed down, and as a result the ability to do the job is diminished.

Simple as.

Anonymous at Thu, 19 Dec 2024 10:45:20 UTC No. 16517903

>>16464064
Well, we imported many people who don't know how to operate our complex systems, and who are not willing to try to fit in to out way of life either.
This leads to amssive errosion of trust and skills due to the fact we are now more divided in terms of people and resources.
We also export so much away from ourselves, and our industries are plotted in a way in which we are forced to import so much of what we would otherwise make ourselves.
This all leads to stagnation and degradation of society and prosperity.
You cannot expect to have a space program when the average citizen no longer cares and the people the system brought in cannot do what the citizen potentially could.
We have too many weeds in the garden, and so we are withering.
We need space to live and prosper once more. That would help solve it, but everything is too monetized and corrupted.
I hope we all learn to get along in the future, and show each other proper distance as a sign of respect for one another.

Anonymous at Thu, 19 Dec 2024 20:08:24 UTC No. 16518296

I like how only 5-10 percent of university people will ever make an impact on the world while all of college people keep infrastructure and society going. The crème de la crème of university people are true wizards, but today this is just no longer true. There will never be another Einstein.

Anonymous at Thu, 19 Dec 2024 20:27:02 UTC No. 16518316

>>16464064
Read Joseph Tainter's The Collapse of Complex Societies. The competency crisis is an outgrowth of civilization becoming increasingly complex, but there being diminishing returns on complexity. Low TFR falling populations trying to maintain increasingly complex systems for increasingly little gain isn't going to end well.

It's an unsolvable problem though so hysteria probably isn't warranted. Society will probably stabilize at some lower technological level.

🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 20 Dec 2024 09:52:28 UTC No. 16518905

>>16510064
To who? White Americans? Native Americans? Black Americans? Asian Americans? Who the fuck home is it truly is besides the natives? they were the first one hear until you idiots ILLEGALLY migrated to the land. But now because you have laws and such no one can come in? Fuck off and weep what you sow.

Anonymous at Fri, 20 Dec 2024 16:18:32 UTC No. 16519194

>>16517546
US mean IQ is 85. 2 points above Libya.

Anonymous at Sat, 21 Dec 2024 01:26:51 UTC No. 16519612

>>16519194
California is the lowest IQ state in the nation all due to immigration. 20 years ago it was the international hub of technological development and now its a failed, decaying 3rd world state.

Anonymous at Sat, 21 Dec 2024 02:00:34 UTC No. 16519630

>>16518905
Not him
>Illegally
Can't come illegally when there is no state.

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Dec 2024 03:10:47 UTC No. 16520459

>>16518905
>To who? White Americans? Native Americans? Black Americans? Asian Americans?
The ones who have been here since the beginning and up into the late 19th century.
>Who the fuck home is it truly is besides the natives? they were the first one hear until you idiots ILLEGALLY migrated to the land.
The USA was not created by Native Americans, prior to the USA they were tribes or polities that did not have any unity between them, let alone a perception that the land belonged to all of them. There was no Illegal immigration, there was settlement, and Native Americans didn't have the numbers to occupy the land to the point of having firm borders.
>But now because you have laws and such no one can come in?
Yeah, the alternative is that we colonize the countries of the demographics invading us and make them seal their borders tight or sterilize them and annex their lands. Stop coming here without our permission and that will never happen.

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Dec 2024 05:02:02 UTC No. 16520563

>>16519612
>source: TonyMAPPEDit

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Dec 2024 07:58:06 UTC No. 16520641

>>16481515
Bread and circuses are important for the ruling class to stay ruling.

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Dec 2024 08:53:08 UTC No. 16520675

>>16520563
Somebody has to map it. Who better than Tony?

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 00:59:40 UTC No. 16521351

>>16519612
>California is the lowest IQ state in the nation
also has the lowest percentage of whites and highest percentage of asians of any state

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 11:21:50 UTC No. 16521663

>>16519612
So that is why Elon is moving to Texas?

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 14:53:01 UTC No. 16521766

>>16501235
>a true noble
lmao

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Dec 2024 15:04:23 UTC No. 16521779

>>16488555
this. pure-bred negro iq is <70

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 04:45:35 UTC No. 16522449

>>16521663
Might've been partially a result of his moving all his operations out of Cali

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 12:13:57 UTC No. 16522651

They hone the focus and forgot a few early stages. It's psychiatry's fault we shouldn't hone the focus on but the concentration on fundamentals like philosophy, like dieticians should be concentrated on

Anonymous at Tue, 24 Dec 2024 23:17:47 UTC No. 16523132

>>16496099
Grim

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Dec 2024 03:59:44 UTC No. 16523302

>>16521779

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Dec 2024 04:38:10 UTC No. 16524085

>>16523302
>the mean iq of black people is around 85
its closer to 70 for blacks , 85 is about the average for semites

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Dec 2024 04:59:20 UTC No. 16524098

>>16464095
>retard attempts to sound intelligent by referring to other retards (Spengler)
>while also contradicting Spengler's various modes of thought in reducing things down to racialism

The person who wrote that is a fucking idiot, and you're an even bigger fucking idiot for posting that thinking it's going to be usable as an argument.

>>16465279
You're also a fucking idiot, since blacks are objectively being mongrelized and converted into "whites", not the other way around. The way genetics works is that if you have a minority genetic population, if it doesn't stay homogenous and mingles with the greater population, over time that population gets absorbed into the greater one, regardless of who is sleeping with who, as the original unique minority genetic structure becomes diluted eventually to a point of non-significance. Blacks are slowly being eradicated by biracialism. The only way to contend with this is if they flooded tens of millions of blacks into the US in a short single generational period, in which case it would offset the absorption. Same thing happened in Spain and Italy.

You're either a troll or someone who doesn't understand social genetic trends.

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Dec 2024 05:13:11 UTC No. 16524104

>>16524085
That's for black Africans.

🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 26 Dec 2024 06:01:43 UTC No. 16524138

>>16464095
Funny how he didn't include this excerpt from Jung:

>“The psychology of the unconscious does not lend itself to popular treatment. It is too easily misunderstood … one needs to know how we can be influenced through the unconscious. I can just as well speak of the primitive contents of the European unconscious. There is no critical slur in these things. Indeed, for a wide-awake person, the primitive contents may often prove to be a source of renewal. The American unconscious is highly interesting, because it contains more varied elements and has a higher tension, owing to the melting-pot and the transplantation to a primitive soil, which caused a break in the traditional background of the Europeans who became Americans. On the one hand, Americans are in a way more highly civilized than Europeans, and on the other hand their wellspring of life energy reaches greater depths. The American unconscious contains an immense number of possibilities.”

(Jung (1949))

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Dec 2024 06:12:41 UTC No. 16524141

>>16464095
Funny how he didn't finish that excerpt:

>"The Negro by his mere presence is a source of temperamental and mimetic
infection…. I am quite convinced that some American peculiarities can be
traced directly to the coloured man, while others result from a
compensatory defence against his laxity. But they remain externals leaving
the inner quick of the American character untouched …"

Or include this one at all:

>“The psychology of the unconscious does not lend itself to popular treatment. It is too easily misunderstood … one needs to know how we can be influenced through the unconscious. I can just as well speak of the primitive contents of the European unconscious. There is no critical slur in these things. Indeed, for a wide-awake person, the primitive contents may often prove to be a source of renewal. The American unconscious is highly interesting, because it contains more varied elements and has a higher tension, owing to the melting-pot and the transplantation to a primitive soil, which caused a break in the traditional background of the Europeans who became Americans. On the one hand, Americans are in a way more highly civilized than Europeans, and on the other hand their wellspring of life energy reaches greater depths. The American unconscious contains an immense number of possibilities.”

(Jung (1949))

Even in his desperate groping attempts at relevance among the well respected, he needs to cherry pick. No wonder Evola is forgotten.

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Dec 2024 05:23:53 UTC No. 16524885

>>16524104
>negroes become less dumb when they leave africa because western nations have magic dirt

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Dec 2024 06:04:18 UTC No. 16524908

>>16465346
>Rule #1 in safety is "don't get comfortable
Nope, it's "have fun"

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Dec 2024 06:20:01 UTC No. 16524921

>>16515526
What is the significance of circling a few of them?

Anonymous at Fri, 27 Dec 2024 06:30:45 UTC No. 16524930

>>16524885
>sub-population removed from it's source population for multiple centuries undergos both founder effect events, genetic bottlenecks and adaptations to the new environment, which alters the frequency and expression of the genes including traits like IQ

Yes, that's usually how this works anon. It's not exclusive to them nor is it guaranteed that traits like IQ will increase see Aboriginal Australians.

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Dec 2024 20:51:06 UTC No. 16526604

>>16464064
Musk wants to import even more 3rd worlders and have the civilized world descend to 3rd world standards

🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 28 Dec 2024 20:59:28 UTC No. 16526616

>>16464064
DEI.
literally that simple.
>>16464083
This has nothing to do with the Competency Crisis.
>>16464089
Mostly right except Fiat currency isn't capital (debt is a lability) and we live in a centrally planned economy.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 28 Dec 2024 21:01:06 UTC No. 16526617

>>16464275
>Y2K was fake
No it wasn't: it was blown out of proportion by idiots like you that didn't understand what it actually was.
>Nothing is complicated
Thanks for confirming you're an idiot.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 28 Dec 2024 21:02:56 UTC No. 16526622

>>16465983
>Don't blame DEI blame public school and higher education
Those were ruined by DEI you mouth breathing retard. They literally lowered all the standards because Mexicans and blacks COULD NOT MEET THEM and then they prioritized Mexicans and blacks into higher education.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 28 Dec 2024 21:06:11 UTC No. 16526628

>>16466533
You're an educated idiot.
You're literally learning THE EXACT SAME SHIT they taught in the 1920s.

Standard model is over 100 years old and the Cult of Einstein (which you're a part of) is why physics is stuck in a dead end.

Computer science is shit today as well--they learn all the tools but hardly touch anything under the hood.

Same with chemistry: it's lock step with antiquated physics.

Why? Because publishing a unified theory would crash the fucking economy you brain dead retard.

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Dec 2024 21:21:08 UTC No. 16526656

>>16518316
This is likely the case.

You cant solve complexity collapses by adding complexity.

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Dec 2024 21:22:26 UTC No. 16526658

>>16526628
What happened is all the "low hanging fruit" of science has been picked and we are running into hard barriers of what is possible to know.

Anonymous at Sat, 28 Dec 2024 21:28:33 UTC No. 16526666

>>16518316
This seems closely related to the Iron Law of the Oligarchy. And complexity has already reached the breaking point where we have lost the overview of even the legal system.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 29 Dec 2024 06:36:44 UTC No. 16527364

>>16526658
Fun fact Ghastlie Maxwell's dad ran a publishing company that printed college science books.

There is a reason they are intentionally teaching a 100 year old physics theory that leads to a disjointed non unified theory while deifying a jew, who didn't even invent any of it.

You're not meant to discover anything new and you won't unless you're hand chosen to learn the real physics either by IBM or DARPA or you're on an even shorter list of people that worked it out on their own.

We live in a centrally planned economy and a published unified theory would completely change all of the global power balance almost over night. You're clearly not as smart as you think you are if you think the Oligarchs would leave the keys to the kingdom in the hands of the universities.

Did you ever wounder why people who study gravity never get funding and are even mocked by "normies" even though it is one of the fundamental forces?

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 29 Dec 2024 06:41:45 UTC No. 16527366

>>16526666
The legal and financial systems aren't complex at all--they just appear that way to the uninitiated (which is intentional).

You didn't notice that the murder of a CEO elicited federal charges but gang bangers kill people all day with almost no repercussion?

You never questioned why competition of currency is totally forbidden or looked into Consolidated Debt Obligations and how they stack into hundreds of trillions in "derivatives?"

It isn't complex it's just never ever taught to the public because it's very simple: you're being robbed blind by imaginary money fuckery and the law, which was supposed to be of and for the people (who had jury nullification) is now dictated to them and jury nullification is heresy.

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Dec 2024 06:43:00 UTC No. 16527367

>>16526658
something made the entire world retarded, we know that for sure

I personally don't believe the conspiracies like the poster above me, I think its mass hysteria on a global level. Look at semi-conductors, that technology literally started in the 1940s, its still the most important technology today, and yet the average person knows more about fucking tungsten lightbulbs that havent been a thing for almost 20 years meanwhile nobody off the street has ever heard the word "lithography" in their entire life.

This is why I hate elon and his Americans are retarded speech very much, education is the only way anyone gets smart. If I didn't have good CS teachers in highschool, I probably would have dropped technology all together. SO then how the fuck are we as a civilization supposed to succeed when the average person doesn't even know why silicon valley is important????????????

we are being utterly gatekept into retardation. elon, bezos, trump, and biden all want the US to become a caste society and this is probably the more likely conspiracy out of all of them

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Dec 2024 06:44:05 UTC No. 16527368

>>16527366
>>16527364
also this person talks like a massive fucking bot

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Dec 2024 13:55:26 UTC No. 16527573

>>16465346
if that were true, we'd have less safety measures so retards kill themselves more often

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Dec 2024 14:08:47 UTC No. 16527584

>>16527368
>redditspacing all over my monitor
because it literally is a bot

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Dec 2024 15:33:03 UTC No. 16527691

>>16527366
>The legal and financial systems aren't complex at all--they just appear that way to the uninitiated (which is intentional).
Realy?? I see this every day as part of my work as a patent attorney. And part of my work is to speak clearly with my clients while speaking "patentese" with Examiners, judges etc.
>You didn't notice that the murder of a CEO elicited federal charges but gang bangers kill people all day with almost no repercussion?
I saw it, this has been on the news across the world. It is only tangential to my point, though.
>You never questioned why competition of currency is totally forbidden or looked into Consolidated Debt Obligations and how they stack into hundreds of trillions in "derivatives?"
That too is a separate problem.
>It isn't complex it's just never ever taught to the public because it's very simple: you're being robbed blind by imaginary money fuckery and the law, which was supposed to be of and for the people (who had jury nullification) is now dictated to them and jury nullification is heresy.
The iron law has two aspects: complexity and elite. The fact that the elite uses power to set itself above the law is well known but that too is seperate form the complexities I mentioned.

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Dec 2024 17:56:08 UTC No. 16527853

>>16527368
He sounds like one of the "smart but lazy" guys who drop out of high school, get a GED at 25, and go nowhere in life, blaming it on everyone but their own laziness, which they admit to being but claim isn't relevant because they're "smart". At some point he'll take some type of IQ test proxy, find out he's a midwit, and have a complete mental breakdown because being "smart" was the only positive identity he had left. To recover from this, he will spend his days online taking pot shots at everything so he feels like less of a failure due to pointing out so many failures in others.
He claims the world is simple but even with being "smart" he has no way of doing anything about this simple world.

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Dec 2024 18:13:12 UTC No. 16527880

>>16526658
Pretty much this^, while there are alternative beliefs on why there hasn't been much progress in science it's well known we are at some form technology/resources limit.

We don't have the tech to properly probe at the plank scale. So learning more about quantum physics is done at a snails pace. Nor do we have tech/ resources to do close in atmosphere propes of the Gas gaints. Let alone on ground rover missions on Venus (extreme heat), Europa or Titan (extreme cold). So we can't expand our knowledge on celestial bodies outside Mars either.

We're basically stuck with putting all ducks in machine learning. Which is more or less being used by corporations to their cheap labor pursuits.

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Dec 2024 19:34:23 UTC No. 16528052

>>16526658
>What happened is all the "low hanging fruit" of science has been
That might have explained some of the stagnation but not the regression.

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Dec 2024 19:46:10 UTC No. 16528085

>>16528052
when water stops flowing and stagnates, the regression is natural, obvious consequence of it

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Dec 2024 20:17:13 UTC No. 16528154

>>16526658
there is still lots and lots of low hanging fruit, its in fields that are unpopular. mycology for example is over a century behind plant and animal biology in terms of understanding

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Dec 2024 22:23:44 UTC No. 16528365

>>16528085
I cannot say that the rot uncovered almost daily over in Retraction Watch fllows naturally from stagnation. That is more like corruption.

Anonymous at Sun, 29 Dec 2024 22:37:09 UTC No. 16528374

>>16464064
I recently saw this argument that if our civilisation fails, and it probably will due to this competency crisis amongst other things, there will unlikely be another chance for civilisation to reach this level or beyond due to the simple fact that we have already expended most of the easily accessible resources of fuel, metals, etc to build the current civilisation. Any new civilisation trying again in the future will simply not have the same ease of development.

Interesting to think about.

Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 08:28:57 UTC No. 16529566

>>16528374
babylon was more advanced than this pathetic excuse of "civilization" that we have more, keep your retarded midwit theories to yourself

Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 11:19:49 UTC No. 16529629

>>16528374
There is enough coal t bootstrap to an industrial revolution but not enough cheap and easily available gas and oil left to proceed from the world of 1930 to the world of today.

Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:39:01 UTC No. 16529774

>>16464064
It has now been proven that this "competence crisis" bullshit is being pushed by Musk bots to import more indians. It has never been real, there are lots of competent people out there, and many more that could potentially be trained to gain specialized knowledge, but the powers that be decided not to because "it's too expensive" so they'd rather import indians (not europeans, not asians, but FUCKING INDIANS

Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:17:50 UTC No. 16529810

>>16464064
>What does it mean for a society to "deskill" itself?
Eventual collapse.

Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 14:34:02 UTC No. 16530875

Bump

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:31:40 UTC No. 16531421

>>16529774
>"competence crisis" bullshit is being pushed by Musk bots to import more indians.
How is importing incompetent retarded jeets supposed to do anything other than worsen a competence crisis?

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:52:33 UTC No. 16531441

>>16531421
you need to ask Elon Musk about that

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:02:57 UTC No. 16531714

Import a bunch of subspecies browns at the expense and replacement of the european caucasian population. Complex systems and everything at large falls apart. Blame the le "comptence crisis".

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:20:03 UTC No. 16531726

>>16531714
Face it

If whites were so smart they would uninstall genshin impact

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:50:27 UTC No. 16531736

>>16464064
>price most people out of higher education
>those that can afford it don't need to work for a living
>no one gets higher qualifications
>those that teach higher qualifications retire
>there is no one to replace them
Basically after the 60s and 70s lots of western governments saw that an educated population was causing them problems because educated people protest wars and form unions. They decided the best way to deal with this was to stop subsidizing education pricing the working class out without thinking about the long term consequences.
The worst thing about this is the vast majority are too stupid to understand cause and effect so those that created this problem will never be hung in the street.

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:58:39 UTC No. 16531771

how the fuck is this lame ass thread still up. its been here for like 2 monthz

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 20:21:56 UTC No. 16531931

>>16464064
>permit hostile foreign tribe to take pver key positions of your most important institutions
>They subvert the religion of your lower classes into worship of their tribe, see https://youtube.com/watch?v=p2_p_qwIyZ4
>They bribe your upper classes into establishing detrimental policies, such as what has come to be known as DEI, under which employees are hired based on how brown they are instead of on how competent they are, and schooling is dumbed down until all the White kids are learning just as little as the Black kids
>DEI is pushed by BlackRock on anyone who wants to get investment from them (BlackRock is named after the Holy of Holies in the Jewish Temple of Shlomo, see also the Israeli private intelligence firm BlackCube and the Kabbalist symbolism in Stanley Kubrick movies such as 2001 Space Oddyssey)
>Trying to bargain with this hostile foreign tribe is futile because their leadership think they're under divine orders to exterminate you, see https://odysee.com/@KnowMoreNews:1/Edom-Finished:d
>Somehow everyone except the Nazis is either too dumb or too retarded to figure any of this out, hence why the Nazis considered you a subhuman (and rightly so)
>we're fucked because too many people are as retarded as you are
that's the gist of it.

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:49:35 UTC No. 16532455

>>16531771
OP here, I'm pleasantly surprised that this thread lasted so long, clearly anons have a lot to say on this topic.
I'll make a toast to it if it makes it to 2 months.

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 14:07:00 UTC No. 16532543

>>16492054
>Even the equations in textbooks and tables these days have been doctored to hide important truths to protect energy related rackets and 'muh it could be used for bad thangs keep it secret do it it for the childrens'.

Can you elaborate on this? What are some unexpurgated examples?

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 16:58:08 UTC No. 16532728

>>16464064
>deskill
It means your taught focus not concentration, you concentrate in study but not at work

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 18:55:07 UTC No. 16532899

>>16464089
It's not so much about diversity as much as it is about the war against "streaming" which means separating the smart kids and the dumb kids into different curriculums at around the start of high school. Think programs like G&T, AP, IB etc.

Streaming is absolutely critical in America because mainstream American teen culture is anti-intellectual as FUCK unless you're in a school district with a high number of Asians and Indians.

Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 21:33:45 UTC No. 16533170

>>16464083
>good times make weak men

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Jan 2025 01:59:35 UTC No. 16533423

>>16518316
>Society will probably stabilize at some lower technological level
I think this is what happened to Roman colonies when the Roman Empire withdrew.

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Jan 2025 14:49:05 UTC No. 16533916

>>16517516
>>16517546
A more neutral term would be something like "talent dilution". The expansion of the administrative class is probably another contributing factor.

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Jan 2025 16:18:50 UTC No. 16533993

>>16524930
post body, you're fat

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Jan 2025 18:27:05 UTC No. 16535258

>>16533170
>weak men study soiyence

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Jan 2025 22:19:23 UTC No. 16535510

>>16476847
I think you two are talking past each other. He is right in terms of knowledge, and I would say a university freshman is at the level of a PhD from the 20s, at least for mathematics. You could also have a nurse today that knows more than the best doctors from those days.

But what you are referring to is the ability to synthesize information and produce research or research adjacent contributions. While I would agree with you here, it's also hard to quantify this given it takes much more time to start contributing compared to the 1920s, so as a lecturer you will never see this.

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Jan 2025 22:21:26 UTC No. 16535511

>>16481596
>number of people who can do FAA certified x ray inspected welds will continue to shrink.
Because less people are required, and the guys getting those jobs are getting out of the military with every certification required, and the company hiring them is getting kickbacks from the govt for hiring a veteran.

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Jan 2025 02:54:55 UTC No. 16535785

>>16535511
>Mexicans destroyed the job market
>the number of old boomers who pulled up the drawbridge behind them dwindles.
anon, those are the jobs americans (millenials) didn't want to do because they were too comfortable in their white collar jobs. now americans are fucked because of their own laziness...

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Jan 2025 02:55:56 UTC No. 16535788

fuck. >>16535785 was for >>16481596

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Jan 2025 16:13:41 UTC No. 16537277

>>16535258
tsmt