Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 22:05:24 UTC No. 16464140

you have a dumb fantasy life, stop reading comic books

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Nov 2024 22:06:16 UTC No. 16464143

>>16464140
Science is real. This is the science board.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 01:00:22 UTC No. 16464304

>>16464131
Those tight knit spirals are quite incredible, why are they doing that?

🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 01:06:45 UTC No. 16464309

>>16464131
Is it Trump or Harris that's supporting stabilizing the Higgs field? How much will it cost?

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 13:42:20 UTC No. 16464901

>>16464131
It has already decayed, you dumb fuck. That’s how particles gain mass.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 16:00:56 UTC No. 16465037

>>16464901
Don't be so aggressively stupid. The unstable local maximum where the Higgs has no vev is not a metastable state, and that's not what OP is referring to.

See e.g. hep-ph/0104016, arXiv:1803.03902

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 20:12:08 UTC No. 16465314

>>16464304
They are electrically charged and more across a magnetic field, and therfore experience a force normal to the field and the velocity.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 22:30:53 UTC No. 16465412

>>16464131
I dont know what any of that shit means.

🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 23:11:44 UTC No. 16465448

>>16465037
>that's not what OP is referring to.
What the fuck is he referring to then? The Higgs field has a single family of local, equal-valued minima. There is no metastable state, period.

🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 23:18:30 UTC No. 16465452

>>16465037
>that's not what OP is referring to.
What the fuck is he referring to then? The Higgs field has a single family of local, equal-valued minima. There is no metastable state, period.
>hep-ph/0104016, arXiv:1803.03902
Retards make wild claims like
>In the standard model (SM) of particle physics, it has been known that the Higgs quartic
coupling may become negative at a high scale through quantum corrections, so that the Higgs
potential develops a deeper vacuum.
while forgetting the two basic facts: the Hamiltonian has a lower bound by the Positive Energy Theorem and any additional self-interaction terms that would bound the potential from below are non-renormalizable. This is what happens when you're ass deep in mindless calculations and forget to do sanity checks.

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Nov 2024 23:20:00 UTC No. 16465457

>>16465037
>that's not what OP is referring to.
What the fuck is he referring to then? The Higgs field has a single family of local, equal-valued minima. There is no metastable state, period.
>hep-ph/0104016, arXiv:1803.03902
Retards make wild claims like
>In the standard model (SM) of particle physics, it has been known that the Higgs quartic coupling may become negative at a high scale through quantum corrections, so that the Higgs potential develops a deeper vacuum.
while forgetting the two basic facts: the Hamiltonian has a lower bound by the Positive Energy Theorem and any additional self-interaction terms that would bound the potential from below are non-renormalizable. This is what happens when you're ass deep in mindless calculations and forget to do sanity checks.

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 05:56:36 UTC No. 16465766

>>16465314
Why does the field make it spiral, if the magnetic field was of different strength, of different shape, of different angle, the spiral would be different?
All smoothly correlating to those changes

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 06:18:18 UTC No. 16465779

>>16464131
Mostly likely the Sun will die before it happens so it is quite frankly not my problem.
If a false vacuum decay event fucks up our Universe, humanity would have already been long extinct and forgotten.
Far, far, far more likely is that we get hit by an asteroid that wipes us out. That's something actually worth worrying about.

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 15:47:45 UTC No. 16466089

>>16465457
Read the chapter about effective action in Peskin and Schroeder

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 16:41:17 UTC No. 16466155

>>16466089
EFTs break down past a certain scale and you need a UV completion. If they’re going to make these asinine speculations, they should justify the existence of such a scale in the first place
>inb4 GUTs
what an amazing scientific practice of justifying speculations with speculations

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 17:06:52 UTC No. 16466179

>>16466155
I'm not talking about EFTs, although there is a cutoff scale that is important to the result. Actually look up the terms "effective action" or "effective potential" and you will see the general paradigm for the calculation they are doing. It's basically finding the free energy as a function of the VEV of the Higgs field. You can't just use the potential in the local action it receives corrections from the fields interacting with the Higgs.

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 19:24:45 UTC No. 16466297

>>16464131
I hope it will happen soon

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 19:32:12 UTC No. 16466307

schizophasiacs loev qm

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 21:30:35 UTC No. 16466448

>>16464131
Goku would TANK that.

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 22:42:55 UTC No. 16466539

>>16466179
>I’m not talking about EFTs
>look up the terms “effective action” or “effective potential”
These are the same thing.
>it receives corrections from the fields interacting with the Higgs
So? We measure the renormalized value already. And it’s measured to be positive. Saying “it might be negative even though it’s measured positive because le corrections” is once again a basic lack of understanding of the renormalization procedure. People who peddle all this hierarchy problem nonsense are the ones who manage to somehow publish 60 manuscripts of bullshit while lacking basic common sense. Appalling state of affairs. Niggers in cosmology are particularly susceptible to this in my experience.

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Nov 2024 23:21:40 UTC No. 16466571

>>16466539
It's not quite the same thing. In an EFT you are writing a new local QFT for some IR degrees of freedom and in the object I am talking about you've integrated out the IR too. You end up with the free energy as a function of a single variable, the constant VEV of the Higgs field.

I don't really feel like arguing about this. You're that pheno professor, right? Just publish a short paper about why that paper from 2001 I cited with around 600 citations is obviously complete bullshit, and it would be great for your career.

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 08:16:49 UTC No. 16466921

>>16466571
I don’t care about le career. You obviously do. And you obviously don’t care about science because you deflect criticism instead of arguing.

DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 10:46:38 UTC No. 16466996

>>16464131
>for giving particles their masses
>>16464131
>and in doing so obliterate the ability for particles with masses to exist.
RETARD. you are generalizing it. It only affects force carriers.
fermions aka matter has mass because of their inherent energies, their mass do not depend of the higgs field

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 10:57:53 UTC No. 16467000

>>16466996
Retard alert.

Stop guessing start learning at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 12:18:06 UTC No. 16467046

>>16464131
Cool so now what do we do with this information?

I suspect government where speculative and ambitious and overly optimistic when funding the LHC because they thought the payoff would be understanding the atomic and subatomic level with more precision.

This would lead in theory to more energy like fusion and more scientific breakthroughs but we got nothing.

Science is at a very low point right now.

God and the animal kingdom are laughing at us