🧵 So why does he want to go to Mars and not Titan?
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 18:31:29 UTC No. 16467412
Closer isn't always better.
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 18:36:30 UTC No. 16467417
>>16467412
titan is farther away and colder
both options are stupid though
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 18:50:08 UTC No. 16467429
>>16467412
Because you can't sustain an average of 5 years of journey in free space dumbshit that's why
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 18:59:42 UTC No. 16467436
>>16467412
A manned mission with an average 5 years of free space journey can't be sustained with current technology and not in foreseeable future. So yeah closer is always better.
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 21:18:06 UTC No. 16467572
>>16467436
>with an average 5 years of free space journey
why not just rotate the crew so they get bored?
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 23:35:37 UTC No. 16467724
>>16467412
>colder and bathed in far more radiation
Titan is trash. Mars isn't great but Titan is just absolute trash.
Anyway, his real scheme is to build BRILLIANT PEBBLES, not some dumb colony larp.
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 23:43:34 UTC No. 16467737
>>16467412
Does this cunt really want to go to Mars?
I MEAN DOES HE REALLY WANT HUMANS TO SUFFER MORE? what the fuck would anyone gain from going to another planet????
what a waste of energy and resources
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 00:35:42 UTC No. 16467793
>>16467737
>what the fuck would anyone gain from going to another planet????
A backup of human civilization for one.
Though I suspect Mars to be a distraction from his actual goal, which is asteroid mining.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 01:21:22 UTC No. 16467823
>>16467737
>t.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 01:31:57 UTC No. 16467833
>>16467793
Does he not know that emeralds are unlikely to be in asteroids?
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 01:48:28 UTC No. 16467854
>>16467833
> On 28 February 2020, NASA awarded SpaceX a US$117 million contract to launch the Psyche spacecraft, and two smallsat secondary missions, on a Falcon Heavy rocket.[48] The spacecraft was successfully launched on 13 October 2023, at 14:20 UTC,[12] with an expected arrival in 2029.[13]
(interesting, that they stopped mentioning what metals it is rich in)
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 02:00:02 UTC No. 16467865
>>16467412
Not only would the mass of the ship have to be much larger due to the support needs of humans for a trip of duration, the delta v per kg would also be much higher.
>>16467854
Going to be awkward if it turns out to be mostly silicate.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 14:38:01 UTC No. 16468302
>>16467793
>A backup of human civilization for one.
A mars colony would be an appendage of earth kept working only with massively expensive transfers of material support from earth, it would only ever support no more than 1000 people and would make the people on earth slightly poorer. That isnt a backup.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:56:17 UTC No. 16468402
>>16468302
>would make the people on earth slightly poorer.
Space exploration has potential to make people on earth significantly wealthier.
And the population-regeneration is going to happen by means of genetic engineering (already available) and artificial wombs (maybe in thirty years or so will be able to carry humans (the record was 2 weeks thirty years ago; they were able to successfully carry sheep fetuses for few months few years ago; though trends are not built by two points, I did))
so a thousand well-motivated men are more than enough to do the task. Maybe even fully automated station will be able to do it (in somewhat more distant future)
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 17:30:06 UTC No. 16468423
>>16467412
>Closer isn't always better.
Agreed. But that depends on your definition of 'better', practically speaking mars is better place to begin human exploration.
Elon has been mememing this idea for over a decade now, and it's been nothing but lies. It's certainly not going to happen 'by' 2030 or even ~2040, and definitely not with the current star-ship system, which would require orbital refueling in LEO, LLO, and possibly LMO. The lack of even the tiniest scrutiny by the populous, because 'muh real-life ironman', is how he gets away with so much retarded shit.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 17:33:18 UTC No. 16468425
>>16467412
Anything works as long as it can capture the average braindead t***p voter
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 17:36:23 UTC No. 16468428
>>16468423
> that gross meme with mspaint drawing in the times of ai-painters
That much smaller tunnels are waaay easier to build.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 17:42:39 UTC No. 16468435
>>16468302
That's just an insane statement. You are telling me that there are no resources on mars and shipping at 1000 a ton makes building an industrial park unviable.
Your grocery store tomatoes are 99 cents a pound and grown in high tech led lit green houses acres in size. there is no reason that kind of building can't be shipped and built on mars
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 17:46:36 UTC No. 16468441
>>16468428
>That much smaller tunnels are waaay easier to build.
Yes, and they're infinitely worse.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 17:52:24 UTC No. 16468446
>>16468441
Its all just a scam to get the government to pay for a 1:10 scale model of the automated tunneling robot he will send to mars to dig his colony complex
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 18:10:08 UTC No. 16468471
Everything musk does is a scam to become the martian king.
Tesla is funding his research into autonomous self driving cars which he will need to automate the industrial mining and construction equipment to build on mars
The boring company is doing research into automated mining and tunneling systems to build the underground pressurized living spaces that the martians will live in, instead of importing radiation shielding.
Starlink is a way to commercialize the excess lift capacity he is generating and to make money off the research launches he will be sending up on spacex anyway, and so cheap it doesn't matter if they blow up. They will also be the test bed for the communication system in mars. They pump money into Spacex to make his lifting vessels.
Neurolink is just a way for his martian roughnecks to interface with automated and robotic equipment without risking exposure to the toxic chlorine compounds and radiation on mars.
If I had to bet, the next project he pursues will be orbital data storage systems/ super computing servers attached to their own solar or nuclear powerplant that beams data down, AI is energy expensive and will up energy demand, putting it in space allows for energy generation without massive environmental impact and allows you to run energy designs unsafe near human habitation. He will do this to get practical experience managing waste heat in a near vacuum, shielding sensitive electronics from radiation in situ and justifiable reasons to invest in nuclear power research + space construction.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 18:30:01 UTC No. 16468492
>>16467412
I dont mind if he goes to mars or titan.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 18:35:18 UTC No. 16468496
>>16468402
>Space exploration has potential to make people on earth significantly wealthier.
A mars colonoy would requite material support from earth, and they would send nothing back
>>16468435
>You are telling me that there are no resources on mars and shipping at 1000 a ton makes building an industrial park unviable.
Yes
You can send things to mars at insane prices because it just gets paid by earth and billions of people can chip in to pay, the reverse doesnt work
>>16468435
>there is no reason that kind of building can't be shipped and built on mars
How are tomatoes in mars going to pay for the trillions of material aid that earth has to send?
Like whole nuclear reactors have to be sent to mars just so they can grow tomatoes. And the LED lights too.
Whats mars going to export to earth? Iron?
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 18:37:43 UTC No. 16468501
>>16468496
put a self contained bio lab to research gain of function stuff on an isolated martian base. Not travel, no contamination risk. If it gets kloose you just leave them. Made u money right there
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 19:00:41 UTC No. 16468535
>>16467412
Mars:
>relatively close proximity to Earth as far as stellar bodies go
>receives much more sunlight than Titan
>offers a suitable testing ground for various kinds of experiments because of its close proximity
>only 1.5 AU from the Sun
Titan:
>much further distance from Earth meaning longer and more complicated missions just to reach it
>receives a whopping 0.1% of the sunlight Earth gets
>thick haze covers the moon at any given time providing another obstacle for exploration
>extremely cold temperatures
>tidally locked
just off the top of my head, gotta take baby steps before rushing ahead into the unknown
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 20:01:28 UTC No. 16468642
>>16467412
I don't think you understand just how much further away Titan is.
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 01:49:18 UTC No. 16469096
>>16467412
Because you can get 100IQ fucktards to believe you're capable of going to Mars. SpaceX is effectively a LEO transport company...they know as much about planetary exploration and "colonization" as Allied Van Lines knows about Antarctic expeditions.
He says this retarded shit because midwits are heavily vested in his overvalued stock.
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 02:40:27 UTC No. 16469136
>>16467412
Im supporting him travel to both.
I think I would even pay some money if he leaves soon.
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 05:45:59 UTC No. 16469278
>>16468501
>put a self contained bio lab to research gain of function stuff on an isolated martian base.
Can do in earth orbit. Only real use for a mars base is rape dungeons
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 06:20:38 UTC No. 16469315
>>16467412
>Closer isn't always better.
true, but closer is always closer.
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 06:30:04 UTC No. 16469325
>>16467737
Realistically, I think his ego is the driving force. I don't think he actually cares otherwise.
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 14:09:24 UTC No. 16469597
>>16468496
Nta, the only Mars will be able to export to Earth the first 150 years of its existence is touriam and amenities for scientists. Mars will always be a money, but there’s nothing wrong with that, We aren’t trying to make Mars happen because ot makes financial sense, but because we want it to happen. It’s like building a cathedral. It’s a direct analogue.
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:37:44 UTC No. 16469676
>>16467412
Why does he not want to solve global warming and instead spend his time and resources on a non-urgent idealization?
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:42:30 UTC No. 16469680
>>16468446
>Its all just a scam to get the government to pay for
a psycopathic business person cheating the government like a thief, and then accusing it of being inefficient? No one's ever heard of that before! kek.
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:49:47 UTC No. 16469688
>>16467737
Brainlet take.
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 16:27:02 UTC No. 16469711
>>16469676
he wants to sell and not work.
and selling does not work when messing with the global money elite.
I mean thats like asking him to give away his own money.
or did you honestly think he is selling BEV because of climate???