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Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 21:03:15 UTC No. 16467551
Laws of physics aren't "laws", they're nothing more but assumptions.
They're not descriptive, they're prescriptive.
Basically just an arbitrarily set mathematical invariant.
Take for example energy conservation.
It's not that physicists discovered that energy is conserved.
It's that physicists defined energy as a property that meets this requirement and then decide to further adjust this definition of what energy is when current one violates that assumption according to new empirical discoveries.
I'm not saying laws of physics are worthless, just that they don't mean much outside of the more general physical model trying to describe reality - you can't discover much blindly adhering to them.
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 21:05:34 UTC No. 16467553
>>16467551
Is this "energy" you speak off in the room with us now?
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 21:17:28 UTC No. 16467571
When you see a UFO hovering in the air to your total frustration, do you scream “this defies physics!”, and so you really think it’s “defying” physics?
By “law” and “theory” we’re meaning our own understanding of the matter. And our understanding has come a long way.
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 21:21:38 UTC No. 16467578
>>16467571
I'm saying that "laws of physics" are just assumptions of the currently accepted physical model.
Similar to axioms of mathematical theory.
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 21:41:07 UTC No. 16467602
>>16467551
>They're not descriptive, they're prescriptive.
You have this bass ackwords
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 21:49:02 UTC No. 16467608
>>16467571
all phenomenal experience defies physics. it is entirely inexplicable
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 21:51:02 UTC No. 16467611
>>16467602
Descriptive - you observe the universe and write your observations down (to describe what you see).
Prescriptive - you first write your assumption down (to prescribe language of your model) and then try to fit your observations and your model of the universe to fit that assumption.
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 21:54:59 UTC No. 16467616
>>16467611
Yes, retard.
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 22:25:30 UTC No. 16467636
There are no laws of physics, many things just happen
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Nov 2024 22:29:10 UTC No. 16467642
>>16467551
Old news. The entirety of science is ultimately an assumption since all conclusions derived from observations are inductions. In another word just because all the birds you saw flying by were blue doesn't mean the next one won't be red. Just because all the matter you observed seems to follow a certain pattern doesn't mean the next particle won't violate a "law".
Nonetheless, things do appear to be more or less constant, at least for the moment.