Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 09:04:12 UTC No. 16468102

>>16468096
>>Photons have no mass
Who told you this?

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 09:05:46 UTC No. 16468103

The m in e=mc^2 refers to rest mass, not I think they will say the equation does not apply to light, because
(Light energy) e = m (0) c^2 wouldn't work because that 0.

It's more so saying: take something with mass, and this will tell you about it's potential energy

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 09:11:23 UTC No. 16468104

>>16468096
You lack understanding. You are filtered.
Happens to a lot of students.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 09:40:19 UTC No. 16468114

>>16468096
kek you can’t follow basic logic OP. Mass is a type of energy. That doesn’t mean that all energy is mass. There’s also kinetic energy.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 14:17:47 UTC No. 16468281

>>16468096
Our language often fails us in physics and the Universe is under absolutely no obligation to "make sense" to us humans. If it wants photons to have mass and not-mass, then it can, it will and there's nothing you can do about it. To put it another way, the Universe may simply be using different "Logic" , or even physics than we are.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 14:39:01 UTC No. 16468305

>>16468096
thanks for spamming this shit kek every time i post the same bait on my cunt's imageboard i get insane reactions

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 15:03:10 UTC No. 16468318

>>16468096
Are you the "Why is this true?" spammer

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 15:17:08 UTC No. 16468328

>>16468096
use the complete equation. not just the special case for lazy ass bums. photons are too based to rest.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 20:01:33 UTC No. 16468643

>>16468096
Ackshually the formula is not E = mc^2, it has another term that would just resolve to mc^2 for photons if they had mass.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 20:14:40 UTC No. 16468669

>>16468096
Get this Jewish science out of here. We only have room for fine German science.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 20:28:00 UTC No. 16468685

>>16468096
it should be momentum, not mass.
photons have momentum.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Nov 2024 21:12:52 UTC No. 16468726

>>16468096
[math]E^2 = p^2 c^2 + m^2 c^4[/math]
Mass, momentum, and energy are all just different measures of inertia.
Mass measures an object's inertia in a frame where it is at rest.
Momentum measures an object's inertia in a frame where it is in motion.
Energy measures an object's total inertia.
Inertia cannot be created or destroyed, but it can be transported, exchanged, and transformed.
Light has no mass, because it is never at rest, but it has momentum and therefore energy.

Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 00:42:22 UTC No. 16469009

>>16468685
)Momentum = Mass x Velocity); (P=MV).......where is the "M" coming from?

*this is where the woo-woo and "virtual mass" this & that hand waving starts, watch....

*Please, wait 100,000 seconds before making a post.

*GTFO; is Gook Moot trying to kill this board, or something?

Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 00:52:37 UTC No. 16469035

>>16468726
momentum energy is just linear energy (one c)
mass energy is just rotational energy (two c's)

Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 01:03:00 UTC No. 16469048

>>16469009
>>16469035
A pond is matter and has mass yes???

Wave your hand in the pond and then remove it, notice the ripples: are the ripples extra mass and matter?

Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 01:16:25 UTC No. 16469066

>>16468096
If you dont have the IQ to understand, then you should stop trying and get a job at mcdonalds. Let people with inteligence dont thier thing, and you go play fortnite while smoking weed or whateve you do.

Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 03:54:59 UTC No. 16469192

>>16469066
What a limp dicked attitude. If you don't have the genes for athletics, does that mean you don't go to the gym? If you don't have good looks, does that mean you leave all the showering and socialization to good looking people? Obviously not, unless you're a crybaby coward. So why should anyone give up trying to obtain wisdom if they are low IQ? Why is it different?

OP will struggle and strain to understand the nature of light, and he'll never be as much of a grossly flamboyant waste of good human potential as you are, Anon.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 10:18:01 UTC No. 16471824

bump

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:00:22 UTC No. 16471986

>>16468096

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 19:30:35 UTC No. 16472264

>>16468096
The mass is equivalent to the energy of a system *in its rest frame*. The rest frame is a frame in which the system has zero net momentum. For a massless particle like a photon, the energy is proportional to the momentum, so even if the momentum vanishes the energy does too, and we say it is massless.

But if you have multiple photons going in different directions there will be some frame with zero net momentum but non-zero energy, and indeed a gas of photons will have some inertia.

DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 22:20:28 UTC No. 16472465

>>16469048
>are the ripples extra mass and matter?
technically no. but the peaks have extra mass and matter compared to the trough. it is all about displacement
make them waves bigger and now you do not have a pond at all

Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 02:10:20 UTC No. 16472736

>>16469048
Yes, it has LESS mass because some small amount of water stayed on my hand and some is always being lost to "evaporation". There are not truly "static systems". You fail.

Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 04:20:02 UTC No. 16472941

>>16472736
A dolphin and you are under water 20ft down, the water is mass X.
The dolphin makes a noise that hits your ear. Was mass added to X?

Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 19:37:54 UTC No. 16473749

>>16468096
There is rest mass in light. There is rest mass in dark matter too. Defining such is simply not possible beyond snapshots of reference, which in turn are subjective.

Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 19:54:10 UTC No. 16473771

>>16468096
Photons have no mass the same way sound waves have no mass, they're just transmissions of energy through a medium

Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 20:22:09 UTC No. 16473810

>>16468096
>n-no it’s the spacetime that bends
bulshitt take

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:07:46 UTC No. 16474775

>>16473749
Ok, show be a bucket full of "Dark Matter", or any scientific proof for it whatsoever. I'll wait.....

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:10:16 UTC No. 16474777

>>16472941
No, and neither is it added to the photon and water is not "aether"/"Quantum Foam" and its properties are in no way analogous as water has mass at all times and when a "wave hits you", there is a physical impact that can be felt. Aether does not have mass, so passing a wave through it won't have an "impact"(literally) on the listener.

You fail again.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:11:30 UTC No. 16474778

>>16473771

The "experts" will tell you it has "virtual mass" or "rest mass", or it's "as if" it has mass, but the can never show you a Photon on a scale, can they?

Nope.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:34:30 UTC No. 16474792

>>16474778
Actually, you can shoot light on a very sensitive scale, cause a compressional force and measure its momentum, so you are wrong.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:15:36 UTC No. 16474850

>>16474778
>>16474792
Mass just means:
Whatever light is, Mass is what doesn't travel as fast as that

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:57:05 UTC No. 16474886

>>16474792
"Atchually"......Ok, so put it in a bucket and let me see it :)

Let me guess, it's "Virtual", it's "rest mass", it's "Whatever light is". Of course, that depends on what your definition of "is" is isn't it?

Semantics are not Science.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:04:16 UTC No. 16474892

>>16474792

....and how do we "know" this "scale" is correct?

We don't "know" ANYTHING for certain about ANY subatomic particles. We only have "models" with varying degrees of efficacy.

The best example is that we still don't know "whatever Light/a particle is" on a fundamental level. It's just more and more hand waving.

Show me a single Copenhagen Collapse. Can't

Show me a "bucket of photons". Can't

Show me "an electron". Can't

Show me one milligram of "Dark Matter". Can't

Show me a "graviton". Can't


etc.....etc......etc.....

At the most fundamental levels of Physics, we truly don't "know" shit. We have guesses that work "well enough", but we've known for almost 100 years something very, very, very profound is missing and NOBODY has made any meaningful progress since, despite being very, very smart. Don't you know?

Physics as a discipline is dying fast precisely because people are too proud and cultish to admit they've been quite wrong for quite along time. Until they do, they will only continue to slip further and further into being even more of a "Modern Academic" circlejerk of useless "geniuses".

"Models" are not "proof" of anything.

John the fisherman at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:23:53 UTC No. 16474908

The formula is right here but big pharma is looking in my mind how to debunk it

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:07:52 UTC No. 16474960

>>16474850
>>16474886
>>16474892
No, it's not 'virtual momentum'. It's actual momentum. As in you could build a spacecraft with an engine that only shoots out light through the back or build a Treasure Planet style space station that is being propelled with a sail while being shot at with a laser.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:35:45 UTC No. 16475040

>>16474892
A)Space is a medium/substance/material not made of atoms

B)But it still can vibrate/ripple/Shockwave

A1)The space/medium is called Field

B2)The Shockwave/ripples is called photon