🧵 Could i technicly make ants bigger by keeping the in a high oxygen enviroment?
Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 21:55:39 UTC No. 16472443
So bugs used to be bigg af back in the day when vi had a higher oxygen % in the air so could i basicly make an ant colony start creating bigger ants by jeeping them in a high oxygen enviroment? Or am i retarded?
Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 22:08:25 UTC No. 16472451
Ants have already adapted to low oxygen environment so unless you do it for a million years, your ants likely will have a small increase in size.
Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 22:11:51 UTC No. 16472455
>>16472451
I see so should i use another bug? Or is it just a case of: yeah it could work but you would have to wait for evolution
Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 22:15:52 UTC No. 16472460
>>16472443
>>16472455
If the genes to utilize higher oxygen exist in a given species then they can be brought out by selective breeding. It could just require several generations of queens.
Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 22:20:11 UTC No. 16472464
>>16472460
So we are talking 5 or 50 years cus if it is just a few years i might think about doing it, you can make oxygen at home whit batteries(manganese dioxide) and hydrogen peroxide?
Anonymous at Tue, 12 Nov 2024 23:15:02 UTC No. 16472532
Why do you want big ants so badly?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 11:50:37 UTC No. 16474641
>>16472443
Could you make them big enough to eat niggers?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:20:52 UTC No. 16474978
>>16472451
i disagree. evolution doesn't take a million years, unlike how the science jew hints. i don't know why people think like this when evolution is right in front of you. changes in height versus parents when better nutrition is introduced, dog breeding, birds changing beak shape in few generations in changed habitat, etc. i reckon he could observe noticeable differences in a decade at the latest.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:32:44 UTC No. 16474991
>>16472451
>so unless you do it for a million years
QI alarm sound. Evolution doesn't take that long. Have enough variance in a population and strong enough selection pressure, evolution happens very quickly.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 21:20:00 UTC No. 16475241
>>16474991
i am author of >>16474978 and agree with you on the skewed time frame, but not the requirements.
>enough variance in a population and strong enough selection pressure
evolution isn't conditioned by variance in population. the math would not have added up if variance was the key factor. which in reality is change in the germ cells of parents, producing adapted progeny. we don't know fully which exact excretions of somatic cells carry the info to the germ cells, but we know it does happen, it had even been predicted by darwin.
>>16472460
>selective breeding
you don't need any human induced selective breeding. they will evolve by themselves just as fast.
btw, op anon, i forgot to mention that once this btc bull run is over, i'd help you financially with this experiment cuz i was thinking the same thing for a while man.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 21:53:41 UTC No. 16475255
>>16475241
But what ants should one use? There is certainly a diffrence. https://www.antshq.co.uk/
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:29:35 UTC No. 16475288
>>16475255
i'd say srap the ants and use dragonflies, they have the largest breathing tubes & would probably benefit the most.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 22:58:31 UTC No. 16475318
>>16474978
>evolution is right in front of you. changes in height
that's not evolution....
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:03:33 UTC No. 16475326
>>16475288
Harder to house and nymph stage requires water area. But might be wort looking into. Im not really sure if one would need to increase the oxygenation of the water as well and also does higher oxygen levels change how they fly becous of "air density" idk ants seemed simpler but as said ill keep it in mind.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:22:40 UTC No. 16475357
>>16472443
>ants
The size of invertebrates might be limited to some extent by oxygen concentration, but ants are nowhere near that limit. If oxygen was the only thing limiting their size then the biggest ants wouldn’t be tiny compared to the largest insects. Maybe try with goliath beetles or elephant beetles
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:29:32 UTC No. 16475450
>>16472443
the oxygen thing is a meme, they could always evolve better breathing. the problem is that larger insects and just excellent snacks and get outcompeted hard by everything else.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:31:17 UTC No. 16475513
>>16475450
>excellent snacks
i get your point but there won't be any predators in our chamber. also, centipedes could evolve to be poisonous first falling prey to avoid birds and small mammals and then gain their size.