Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 16:03:38 UTC No. 16473481

Because science isn't about progress, it's about knowledge for its own sake. A civilization destroyed is knowledge lost, which in the mind of the knowledge absolutist is more of a tragedy than any number of lives they might have brutally ended.

Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 17:22:09 UTC No. 16473561

>>16473477
science =/= technology
technology is detrimental to science as the dependence of the latter on the former eventually turns science from an aesthetic endeavour of bored aristocrats into a bug hive of government rats who sell their souls for grants and sacrifice genuine curiosity for applicability.

Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 18:34:23 UTC No. 16473667

>>16473477
typical jew

Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 21:02:01 UTC No. 16473842

>>16473667
bruh he was agnostic

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 01:46:02 UTC No. 16474182

>>16473842
Lmfao you have so much to learn

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 01:58:03 UTC No. 16474197

>>16473842
>>16474182
There is no such a thing as "agnostic". He was an atheist. Simple as.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 01:59:38 UTC No. 16474198

>>16473842
"Bruh" Judaism isn't just a religion, it's a genetic race.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 02:09:14 UTC No. 16474210

>>16473477
He would separate those two things and call it a great tragedy.
https://vimeo.com/70473922

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 02:09:50 UTC No. 16474212

>>16474198
Considering you don't fulfill the 3 digit IQ requirement for /sci/, /pol/ is 2 boards down there for you, buddy.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 02:11:01 UTC No. 16474213

>>16474210
I was really angry at him when I found out the Hypatia story is all made up.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 04:10:33 UTC No. 16474334

>>16473477
and completely ignoring the fact that aztecs and mayans destroyed all their neighboring civilizations which is how they rose to prominence to begin with. just more reflexive jewish hatred of whites, its part of their dna or something.

🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 04:21:01 UTC No. 16474340

>>16474334
>Spanish
>White
Ashkenazi are way whiter than any meds.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 04:55:58 UTC No. 16474356

>>16473477
https://www2.hawaii.edu/~pine/sagan.html#:~:text=It%20is%20true,been%20left%20alone.

When did he ever say he despised conquistadores? Here he's just making a point about convergence. Or is it an implication that they could potentially have become like Europeans on their own that makes you rage?

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 04:56:54 UTC No. 16474357

>>16473477
>>Completely ignores their constant human sacrifice, slave-based society,
Evidence? (That it wasn't only of criminals/prisoners of war)

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 05:59:38 UTC No. 16474403

honestly it was probably morally justifiable to burn the religious texts of all these civilisations

anything that produces a society that raids nearby villages and towns to fuel human sacrifices is probably not worth keeping around

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 06:18:40 UTC No. 16474409

>>16473667
lol
>>16474198
>>16474212
It's both. Like how race means a competition to see how does something faster, and it also means subspecies.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 12:10:40 UTC No. 16474668

>>16473477
Sagan also propagated the myths that the "Dark Ages" halted technology for centuries and that Hypatia died heroically trying to save the Library of Alexandria...

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 12:16:47 UTC No. 16474674

>>16474340
>jew
>white
U r a dum nigger

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:09:23 UTC No. 16474711

>>16474668
>Sagan also propagated the myths that the "Dark Ages" halted technology for centuries
It's not a myth, it's a fact.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 13:35:44 UTC No. 16474740

>>16474711
>imagine falling for this bullshit meme

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:49:18 UTC No. 16474816

>>16474740
These are non arguments.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:20:40 UTC No. 16474853

>>16474711
>Nibeliefs

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:05:34 UTC No. 16474893

>>16474853
Ad hominem

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:37:21 UTC No. 16475114

>>16474711
Did you even question what is used to gauge "scientific advancement"? You're likely some sheltered office faggot who never bothered thinking about progress in areas like metallurgy and agriculture because you take it for granted.

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:53:09 UTC No. 16475144

>>16474340
I always think its hilarious how semites, who are an asian race, are so desperate to be considered White. There isn't even a single semite nation that borders on Europe. Why are semites so concerned about being seen as White?
Is there something wrong with being asian?
>lets outsource our antisemitism to asia, they'll do it for free

Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:48:52 UTC No. 16475225

>>16475114
You don't even need to think about it, you can just go to a museum and compare the shit from the dark ages and Roman Empire. It is extremely painful to see the level of regression even compared to Ancient Greece.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:18:14 UTC No. 16476851

>>16475225
It's really not. Dark Ages Europe had better technology in most areas than Rome. The advantage of Rome was in sheer scale. Rome had gigantic aqueducts with simple circular arches, dark ages Europe had windmills and efficient pointed arches.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 03:07:49 UTC No. 16478518

>>16476851
They also had all sorts of technology that was never conceived of in Rome during the dark ages. Mechanical clocks & eyeglasses were both invented in Europe during the so-called "Christian dark ages" and that is already more than any atheist ever invented

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 05:28:12 UTC No. 16478617

>>16476851
>>16478518
I couldn't find anything about that technology (e.g., windmills, pointed arches, mech. clocks, and eyeglasses) being invented or widely known/used between the 5th–10th centuries.

However, I found that Friar Roger Bacon (c.1219-1292) is known to have placed considerable emphasis on the study of nature through empiricism by accompanying his Catholic faith with a scientific way of thinking.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 05:58:52 UTC No. 16478633

>>16476851
That's not true at all. Late middle ages Europe MAYBE.
Much technology was lost. Just look at the warfare. Their "epic battles" were 5000 troop skirmishes with zero tactics beyond a cavalry charge into peasants with bats.
The Romans basically had fracking ffs

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 05:59:29 UTC No. 16478635

>>16478633

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 06:38:51 UTC No. 16478649

>>16473477
Aztecs and Maya destroyed themselves due to their sinfulness.
The maya had long collapsed before the Spanish even arrived, and the Aztec created a wider society which utterly loathed them so much they jumped on board with some aliens rather than support the native rulers.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 06:44:18 UTC No. 16478650

>>16473477
He’s a slimy jew. Couldn’t get past the first few pages of Cosmo because it reeked of Jewishness.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 06:51:10 UTC No. 16478652

>>16473477

hes a jew, what did you expect? he hates whites and christians.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 22:48:05 UTC No. 16479888

>>16476851
Name a single good thing about the Medieval Europe until the 12th century.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 22:51:40 UTC No. 16479897

>>16479888
They were Christian and therefore saved instead of damned like the pagan Romans

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 17:40:50 UTC No. 16480938

>>16473477
>>16473477
>>Despises conquistadors for destroying the Aztec
what a retard. Aztecs are a meme, most of their stuff was not original
>>Completely ignores their constant human sacrifice, slave-based society, and fundamentalist beliefs.
but enough about europeans

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 18:04:17 UTC No. 16480971

>>16478649
This. Cortez led a popular rebellion against the Aztecs with 200,000 natives assisting the Spanish. The Aztecs were already hated due to their cannibalistic genocidal tendencies and the arrival of the Spanish was just the catalyst for destroying them.

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:10:53 UTC No. 16481089

>>16474182
No, I'm convinced it is not about race. Look at it this way, if you are an atheist but you say that you are culturally Jewish or Muslim, or whatever, straight away it means that you align all your preferences and goals with those of that religious group making you ideologically inseparable from them. Being 'culturally Jewish' is enough to generate the exhibited behaviour without any racial element, which doesn't exist anymore in the context of Jews anyway (see khazars).

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:11:31 UTC No. 16481090

>>16474711
Culture is downstream of genetics.

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:38:08 UTC No. 16481136

>>16473477
He was oblivious to the religious aspect of humanity in general
>science is so spiritual, dude weed, the cosmos, man
Not the same thing

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 15:17:15 UTC No. 16482390

>>16473477
>Completely ignores their constant human sacrifice, slave-based society, and fundamentalist beliefs.
You mean... exactly the same as the conquistadors' own ones?

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 16:14:50 UTC No. 16482491

>>16473477
>jew
There's your answer.

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 20:28:57 UTC No. 16486916

>>16482491
oy vey!

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 03:24:27 UTC No. 16488750

just another spineless hebrew zog shill who got famous because he had no morals and was willing to repeat any propagandist's lie that he was told to

DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 00:31:48 UTC No. 16489971

>>16474711
>here, a random graph
lol

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 19:45:39 UTC No. 16490773

>>16481089
Anon this is four channel Jews are considered a whole different species here

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 19:54:39 UTC No. 16490786

>>16473477
He's Jewish

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 20:01:18 UTC No. 16490791

>>16473477
>constant human sacrifice, slave-based society, and fundamentalist beliefs.
You know what the church did? How many people they killed. Their fundamentalist beliefs
>Spain abolished the transatlantic slave trade in 1817, but the practice continued in Spanish America until the late 19th century

It's not all sunshine and rainbows either.
Genocide bad isn't a hot a take.

>Isn't supporting the most technologically advanced civilization the most pro-science stance you can take? Why do some "scientists" place their emotions above progress?
"Supporting". Define it. Where's the line. Where's the goal really? They just wanted their gold not to stop anything.

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 20:06:46 UTC No. 16490799

>>16490791
>Genocide bad isn't a hot a take.
It's a hot take when ONLY genocide from one race is a bad thing. And the others are conveniently ignored.

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 20:14:59 UTC No. 16490807

>>16473477
Christians loved the practice of beating kids, which disturbed the natives. What does that tell you?

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 20:55:10 UTC No. 16490833

>>16473477
He's armchair moralizing. It's one thing to lament the loss of knowledge. It's something much different to blame only Europeans for conquest.

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 21:18:26 UTC No. 16490856

>>16474711
This Reddit graph is not scientifically accurate and has been disproven many times

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 21:20:17 UTC No. 16490858

>>16473477
>>16474711
checked

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 21:31:28 UTC No. 16490881

>>16473477
>NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST SACRIFICE PEOPLE
>WHY??? UHH IT'S EVIL OR SOMETHING