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Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 18:09:41 UTC No. 16473626
So gravity doesn't actually exist, there's just the warping of space-time?
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 18:11:40 UTC No. 16473629
Nah spacetime doesn't warp. An expanding universe with constant dark energy density breaks the law of conservation of energy so it can easily be discarded
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 18:12:43 UTC No. 16473632
>>16473629
And when they talk about dark energy they mean that empty space is expanding. The galaxies are all moving away from each other but it's not them moving in the traditional sense, it's space between them. And the expansion is accelerating. What accelerates as it moves? The warping of space-time.
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 18:20:43 UTC No. 16473647
>>16473629
Conservation of energy is a local law, it does not have to hold on the scale of the (expanding) universe.
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 18:34:29 UTC No. 16473668
>>16473647
It either holds or it doesnt hold. There is no such thing as "local". 50/50.
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 18:39:58 UTC No. 16473680
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 18:45:09 UTC No. 16473686
>>16473680
Locally, the elephant is the largest
t. you
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 18:50:53 UTC No. 16473694
>>16473647
Energy is relative and local, an example being red shift causes photons to drop in frequency and lose energy.
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 18:52:06 UTC No. 16473696
>>16473668
Energy is relative and local, an example being red shift causes photons to drop in frequency and lose energy.
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 18:58:59 UTC No. 16473709
>>16473686
Pretty fucking stupid comment to be quite honest it's like saying to try use QM to determine what happens at a galatic scale when it only occurs at a sub-atomic level.
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 19:03:20 UTC No. 16473713
>>16473709
what happens at the tiniest scale should be the same as what happens on a galactic scale. Right now, our understand is shit so they don't match up.
The 4 fundamental forces of the universe should act on everything equally no matter how big it is. But they don't for some reason. Why? We don't know, lol.
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 19:10:15 UTC No. 16473717
>>16473713
>what happens at the tiniest scale should be the same as what happens on a galactic scale
Proof?
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 19:18:49 UTC No. 16473729
>>16473626
>So gravity doesn't actually exist
Yes it does
>there's just the warping of space-time
Spacetime is a mathematical model, a coordinate system comprised of three spatial and one time coordinate, the "warping" of spacetime is not gravity, rather gravitic effects lead to changes in coordinates, which can be mapped out using spacetime.
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 19:32:06 UTC No. 16473739
>>16473729
>Spacetime is a mathematical model
Einstein did not believe that.
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 19:39:23 UTC No. 16473750
>>16473626
A first order expansion of the Einstein field equations and the geodesic equation, ignoring higher order curvature, generates Newtonian gravity. Newtonian gravity is a fictitious force caused from our assumption that our background is static.
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 19:41:21 UTC No. 16473753
>>16473739
Did you personally ask him that?
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 19:56:53 UTC No. 16473777
>>16473753
It well documented. He initially thought it was simply a mathematically shorthand but he came to change his mind while developing GR.
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Nov 2024 23:57:29 UTC No. 16474053
>>16473717
Proof is that big things are made of smaller things.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 06:35:12 UTC No. 16474424
>>16473626
>all acceleration is due to a force
>except this one because i said so lol
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:53:16 UTC No. 16474940
What came first:
The Mass or
The Spacetime or
The Curved Spacetime
You claim curved space time exists,
but Spacetime is not assumed to curve of its own volition.
And if that is so,
Space time must be curved
And if that is so
Spacetime must be forced to curve
And if that is so
It must be mass that forces space time to curve
And if that is so
Mass must accelerate Spacetime from a non curved to a curved formation
And if that is so
A Mass in the vicinity of Spacetime-forced-to-curve will be forced to accelerate by the accelerated-spacetime-forced-to-cur
It seems this is so