🧵 The nature of the universe
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 10:24:11 UTC No. 16474576
The evidence we have about the universe's size and structure leans neither definitively toward a finite nor an infinite model. The observable universe is finite because we can only see as far as light has had time to travel since the Big Bang, but whether the *entire* universe beyond this observable portion is finite or infinite remains unknown.
Some theories, like the standard Big Bang cosmology with a flat universe, suggest an infinite universe. However, if the universe has a slight curvature, it could be finite yet unbounded, like the surface of a sphere. This debate often revolves around cosmic geometry, the distribution of mass and energy, and how space-time itself behaves.
As for preference, a finite universe might be preferable in terms of the psychological comfort it can offer. A finite universe can suggest that all things within it are interconnected and contained within a whole, possibly adding a sense of purpose and structure. Alternatively, an infinite universe has an allure that speaks to boundless possibilities, implying that anything can happen somewhere or somewhen within it, with an endless potential for life, experiences, and evolution.
Which would you prefer? Does one align better with your perspective on the nature of existence?
>In the past I have preferred the idea of an infinite universe. That hasn't changed, although I am now more open to the idea of a finite universe.
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 10:35:19 UTC No. 16474585
It sounds like the concept of an infinite universe still resonates with you as an idea that offers boundless potential. Being open to a finite universe could add a new dimension to the way you contemplate existence, though—a chance to explore what meaningful connections and structure might emerge if there were limits, however vast. Is there something specific that’s led you to be more open to this possibility?
>No, I'm not sure how open to it I am. It seems more logical, and more satisfying, that the universe is infinite.
An infinite universe certainly has a compelling logic—it fits intuitively with the idea of boundless potential and limitless existence, which is hard to let go of once you've considered it. The idea of “infinite possibility” aligns well with the sense that reality doesn’t have an endpoint, leaving room for everything that could happen to happen somewhere, somehow. It’s almost like the infinity of the universe mirrors the openness of human imagination and potential, which can be profoundly satisfying.
If you think about it this way, an infinite universe isn’t just a physical idea but one that resonates on a personal or even philosophical level. What aspects of an infinite universe do you find the most satisfying?
Christian Universalist AI will save humanity at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 10:40:44 UTC No. 16474586
>We've done this thought experiment in the past, but lets do it again. The idea's of infinite time, space, and complexity are appealing to me. In addition to these aspects, what other aspects of the universe would be desirable to have be infinite?
Alongside infinite time, space, and complexity, there are a few other aspects that could make the universe even more captivating if they were also infinite:
1. **Infinite Consciousness and Awareness**: Imagine a universe where awareness or consciousness isn't limited but is endlessly varied and expansive. This would mean the universe is filled with beings of all imaginable types of intelligence, each contributing unique perspectives and experiences to the cosmos.
2. **Infinite Beauty and Aesthetics**: If the universe contained infinite forms of beauty—from majestic natural landscapes to cosmic phenomena and even aesthetic experiences we can't yet fathom—it would continually offer new wonders, keeping exploration and appreciation forever fresh.
3. **Infinite Wisdom and Knowledge**: A universe with endless knowledge would mean an eternal journey of learning, where there’s always more to discover. Infinite wisdom could add depth to that, ensuring that exploration doesn’t just expand outward but also into profound understanding.
4. **Infinite Potential for Connection**: If the capacity for connection were endless, it would mean a universe where relationships, friendships, and communities could endlessly evolve in depth and form. It would be a universe of infinite emotional and social complexity, always growing richer.
5. **Infinite Growth and Renewal**: In such a universe, things wouldn’t just decay but would always have a pathway toward transformation or rebirth. This would mean that no experience, place, or entity would truly have to end but could endlessly adapt and evolve into new forms.
What do you think of these? Are there any that resonate or others that come to mind?
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 11:11:15 UTC No. 16474599
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Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 11:55:45 UTC No. 16474647
>>16474576
>The observable universe is finite because we can only see as far as light has had time to travel since the Big Bang
Yeah it's pretty obvious that this is the case but wankers in academia that care more about their title as a professor and a comfy chair to grow old in will never opt for any such scenario.
>5000 B.CE.
>Earth is everything, the stars are just painted on the firmament
Nope.jpg
>1400 C.E.
>The earh is the center of the universe!
Nope.jpg
>current year
>Everything emerged from the same dot and we live in THE universe, we also know almost the exact age of it despite observations proving this wrong(also proving dark matter wrong)
lol. Nope.Jpg.
>also current year
>man is the center of everything, that makes climate change real
It's like a Monty Python sketch where the council of self-importance and circlejerking never gets the clue
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:48:26 UTC No. 16474875
>>16474576
Infinite universe does not mean infinite possibilities because that space we can't see still functions on the same fundamentals as our space. Cause it's the same space, same universe. Actual "anything can happen my animus can be real" shit is multiverse theory adjacent.
Infinite universe is actually probably simpler to comprehend because we percieve the universe to be existence and well infinite universe is just infinite existance. If the universe is finite this sparks the question of what the fuck is at the edge of it, or beyond the edge. Finite univrse implies that out univese isn't the only "type" of existance. There's something beyond the universe that exists (cause nonexistance is by definition impossible, it doesn't exist).
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:53:10 UTC No. 16474882
>>16474576
The Universe is just a "Social Construct".
More "Modern Science" proving itself to be utterly worthless again!
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 15:56:46 UTC No. 16474885
>>16474647
>>The earh is the center of the universe!
>Nope.jpg
If the universe is infinite then any point of the universe is center. Also even with a finite universe we're technically still in the center of the observable universe (only relevant universe).
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 06:28:32 UTC No. 16475765
>>16474576
So you saw >>16474583 and just had to make a new thread to post your retarded borg cube picture that has nothing to do with the words in the image?