🧵 Self-studying physics
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Nov 2024 23:58:44 UTC No. 16475417
What subjects should I study if I want to have knowledge equal to a PhD in physics? I've been thinking of studying Electromagnetism (and Quantum Electrodynamics), Quantum Mechanics, Quantum Field Theory, Quantum Gravity and General Relativity. What else should I include?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:13:17 UTC No. 16475436
>>16475417
That's an unreasonable goal to set for yourself and probably a fruitless endeavor.
If you really want to self study it, do it for your own personal enjoyment enrichment or because of the secondary benefits from engaging in challenging material. You simply cannot self-study to an equivalent level of mastery as people who spend 60-70 hours a week working on it for 5+ years under the advisement of the smartest professionals in their field.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 00:27:32 UTC No. 16475447
>>16475436
Don't project yourself in me. I have all the time in the world, I wasn't asking for advice on whether I should follow on it or not but which subjects I should study, if you don't want to contribute to the discussion you're free to ignore the thread and instead reply to the other dozens of threads available. We're not the same.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:13:29 UTC No. 16475496
>>16475447
I'm not projecting myself onto you. I'm telling you that you will fail to meet that standard and you should set a more realistic one.
Stop guessing start learning at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:40:34 UTC No. 16475525
>>16475417
Don't listen to this fucker in the reply anon.
Stay away from ANYTHING QUANTUM. it isn't technically physics and non deterministic statistical analysis.
Study the following
Electromagnetism
Newtonian Physics
Thermodynamics
Chaos theory
Material science( like the piezoelectric effect of a quartz crystal or synthetic material)
Integrated circuits
System science( dynamical and linear and non linear systems)
Electromagnetic instruments (telecommunications, radios, radar etc.)
Thermodynamics
Heliophysics
Celestial mechanics/Celestial navigation
Clocks(oscillating frequencies. The pendulum, clocks in relation to timing Electromagnetic frequencies )
Energy. Oil natural gas and it's relation to society
I think this broad overview will give you a near peer understanding of PhD ivy leage level physics.
I would take my time pondering on each subject after reading and relate it to concepts you understand in real life. To get a true understanding of the subjects
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 01:49:31 UTC No. 16475532
>>16475525
That's really awesome, thank you for the recommends, I'll start looking for good books on them now.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:10:05 UTC No. 16475542
>>16475525
>Stay away from ANYTHING QUANTUM
lmao.
Stop guessing start learning at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:20:07 UTC No. 16475548
>>16475542
The quantum theories are a brach of theoretical physics. Which are non expiremental and rely off mathatical proofs.
The measurements are non deterministic and just a more sophisticated version of statistical or probability theory... it has too much jargon that confuses a person not trained in the precise defining parameters of technical language.
Aka the layman
It's kinda useless to get into the quantum
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:36:42 UTC No. 16475563
>>16475525
>Stay away from ANYTHING QUANTUM
>study Material science
Based
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:52:59 UTC No. 16475578
>>16475417
PhD means you pick a niche subfield and git gud at it, so pick a niche subfield and git gud at it.
...Or did you seriously believe it was just classes for 7 years?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:57:31 UTC No. 16475584
>>16475417
It's imperative that you apply your studies if possible. That's how people learn best. Obviously you can't build a particle accelerator, but there's probably other stuff you can do.
Good luck. I followed a similar path but with chemistry.
Stop guessing start learning at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 02:59:02 UTC No. 16475585
>>16475578
A phd can be multidisciplinary. Becoming a subject matter expert on a topic and to write your thesis/dissertation on a subject requires more than a niche understanding.
For example when the is military designs torpedoes they use concepts of biomimicry from penguins. This is not just physics but biology and the anatomy of a penguin.
You must have a vast array of knowledge to become a true expert
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:02:25 UTC No. 16475589
>>16475417
Question is kinda retarded given that a PhD picks a field they like and just go hardcore on the subject, there is no field to study, you could be a phd in QED and be completely clueless about fluid mechanics beyond the basics.
People working on quantum computing often completely forget their classical physics, or sometimes, ironically enough, develop a habit of treating everything as quantum even when studying classical phenomenas.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:04:48 UTC No. 16475591
>>16475532
Look a the text "Text Yourself Physics", by Jakob (((Swichtenberg)))
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:04:52 UTC No. 16475592
>>16475532
What is your math background/experience? You don't need to be a math major to learn more technical physics, but you'll need at least a strong background in calculus, ordinary differential equations, and linear algebra.
Stop guessing start learning at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:06:36 UTC No. 16475595
>>16475589
Quantum computing is a scam anon. Ask yourself a simple question. If a measurement is uncertain and unpredictable how can I get a consistent output?
Dumb de dum. . You can't therefore a Quantum computer is impossible.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:26:06 UTC No. 16475613
>>16475447
how about you go to community college, and then get a bachelors degree in physics? that's a good start
anon, how often do you brush your teeth? could you benefit from more teeth brushing?
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:28:55 UTC No. 16475618
>>16475592
I’m used to be a math major, but I’m abandoning academia. I’m just gonna study stuff for the pleasure of studying, I’m not gonna be a whore to a corrupt system.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:41:37 UTC No. 16475636
>>16475618
I was asking because it would determine what books I'd recommend. If youre starting from the very beginning with physics, Serway and Jewett's Physics for Scientists and Engineers is very comprehensive, covers the basics of just about everything from a calculus based "entry level physics" perspective and is usually super cheap to get used (~$5 on thriftbooks ATM, not sure about other countries).
That obviously won't get you to PhD level, but it will give you the basics of a wide variety of physics, allowing you to then have a solid foundation for more specific books covering specific topics in greater detail.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:20:49 UTC No. 16475675
>>16475417
Don't listen to all of the shit replies in this thread. You'd be surprised how absolutely shitty and low-brow undergraduate and even masters level academic programs are. It's good you want to learn on your own, because that is the only way you can learn anything ever.
Most of the subjects you mentioned are certainly not entry points. Before anything else, learn a decent amount of math, at the very least to the point where you have a healthy understanding of multivariable calculus and differential equations. Then start with the fundamentals of classical mechanics, such as Newtonian mechanics, thermodynamics, electrodynamics, and so on. Basically everything known before 1900. Once you have a competent understanding of that, dive into quantum by learning about the motivations that lead to the development of the theory, and take it from there as you approach more modern physics. If there's absolutely anything in life that you realize you don't know how it works, go learn how it works. This is a good way to discover new fields to learn about that you didn't know existed.
Read many books on each topic. Study the history surrounding each discovery. This will help you gain intuition of the concept. Never stop revisiting old subjects to brush up on them, you will gain new insight every time you do. Nothing is ever beneath you or behind you. Don't be afraid to veer into adjacent subjects like chemistry and engineering, as there is no clear line where physics ends and those begin. The /sci/ wiki has lists of decent books on a variety of subjects, which should be a good place to begin, but make sure to go beyond that too.
Godspeed anon, self study is a wonderful thing.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 04:56:19 UTC No. 16475716
>>16475618
literally me, heh. I finished an as in math then went into a tech program for electronics, landed in the mic and now they're paying for me to get an as in EE. Go figure
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 05:28:22 UTC No. 16475734
>>16475417
I don't know what your background in math or physics is from highschool or college, but I studied from this text in highschool. It's free and has a lot of depth, but for some topics you might need to already have done some QM.
https://sethna.lassp.cornell.edu/St
I personally learned QM from Griffiths Introduction to Quantum Mechanics, and I enjoyed it; pdfs are available online. I also used Taylor classical mechanics. I don't have a lot of perspective on different textbooks, but free is free and if the book works for you then it's a good book.