Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 22:50:21 UTC No. 16478310

>>16478039
We REALY need some more upbeat images for these threads.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 22:54:54 UTC No. 16478313

How high of an IQ should you have for various branches of STEM?
ex: electrical engineering, computer science, applied mathematics, and how does this vary by subfield? for instance, one who focuses on topology vs number theory for instance

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 22:56:38 UTC No. 16478315

>>16478313
I would like to know what the lowest and highest IQ engineers are, I only ever see that one chart where it's all lumped into "engineer"

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 23:11:13 UTC No. 16478323

Would I be a tit for /goingback/ for a chemistry degree at 30? Please respond.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 23:17:02 UTC No. 16478329

you guys actually like science and shiet. i just want to program for a check.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 23:26:51 UTC No. 16478337

>>16478323
I'm le going back for an EE (assosiactes) degree, but only because work is paying for it. If you have a goal in sight go for for it friendo

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 23:29:38 UTC No. 16478340

>>16478329
I did engineering purely for the money. I get a kick out of all these upper middle class dweebs who are anxious to get a PhD so they can fulfill their status striving.
My mom cut hair for a living. I still remember nights where she could only give a plain slice of bread to my sisters and I for dinner and she sat with her face in her hands crying at the kitchen table. I am legit retarded and put myself through an engineering program fueled by nothing but repressed rage. My only motivation was money. Never let these retards tell you it isn't about the money or meme you about "passion." They grew up bored in million dollar McMansions on daddy's money and are confused about what their life is supposed to be.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 23:31:59 UTC No. 16478344

>>16478337
>assosiactes

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 23:42:16 UTC No. 16478357

>>16478344
FOR CHRISTS SAKE SHE HAS AN ASSOCIATES DEGREE!

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 23:48:04 UTC No. 16478361

>>16478344
Assosiactes - the mythological hero of ancient Greece who was slain by the vicious Bashelor of Deerge

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:19:58 UTC No. 16478424

>>16478340
>upper middle class
You don't need to be upper middle class to be able to afford food
>confused about what their life is supposed to be
About making money? Kek

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:38:58 UTC No. 16478431

>>16478313
For electrical enginering it varies a lot by subfield.
Usually for embedded software design and digital circuit design: 70 IQ
For power engineering, analog circuit design, control systems, information theory and signal processing: 120 IQ
For RF engineering and solid-state physics: 130 IQ

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:54:45 UTC No. 16478442

>over 100 applicants for a senior vice president level position
Are there really this many qualified people out there? No wonder I can't compete. Everyone is qualified as fuck.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 02:03:33 UTC No. 16478452

>>16478442
nah 90% are Indians and the other 9% are just dudes testing their luck

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 02:38:26 UTC No. 16478491

>>16478442
No, just steamroll em'

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 02:41:06 UTC No. 16478493

I officially got my bs in physics last year and I'm making $16/hr.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 02:45:40 UTC No. 16478495

>>16478431
You really think the chemistry side of things is more complicated than statistical signal processing or stochastic optimization? I only know my part of the field (information theoretic signal detection) but most of the RF and chemistry/materials EE people I know specifically went into it because the "math was easier" than the systems track (which is basically just doing an applied math degree focusing on applications of analysis to engineering problems).

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 02:45:50 UTC No. 16478496

>>16478493
Damn bro. Walmart starts at $14 an hour to put boxes of Captain Crunch on a shelf.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 02:52:53 UTC No. 16478504

>>16478496
Should I just apply to a bunch of places and see if I can land one that pays 20+?

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 02:59:07 UTC No. 16478507

>>16478504
You should probably grind it out at a job that utilizes your degree even if it's low paying at first.
You might have a similar floor to a Walmart worker right now but the degree gives you a higher ceiling (unless said Walmart worker becomes general manager)

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 03:21:03 UTC No. 16478525

>>16478493
Don't you know a PhD is the new BSc?

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 09:21:19 UTC No. 16478754

>>16478495
Hardware side of RF has an easier math that's true. But the electromagnetics side, not at all.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 09:34:08 UTC No. 16478757

>>16478525
It makes sense considering the ease of access to the information compared to older times without computer.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 10:49:04 UTC No. 16478786

>>16478495
The hardware design side of RF is simpler, that's true. But the electromagnetics side is not at all. In my experience there was more advanced mathematics in computational electromagnetics and EMI/EMC lectures than in signals and systems related stuff. You have to be good at numerics, vector calculus and complex analysis at a bare minimum and then there are the new things like differential geometry, functional and variational analysis and stochastic fields that I have never encountered in any other subfield's lectures.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 11:35:49 UTC No. 16478825

Semiconductors, renewable energy, automobile, pharma.

Which sector should I pick?

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:10:40 UTC No. 16478922

>>16478825
IQ?

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:55:04 UTC No. 16478954

>>16478825
Lors IQ, Bernd?

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:03:21 UTC No. 16478963

I'm studying electrical engineering and don't know which specialization to pick:
Automation / mechatronics (is both in the same specialization) or electronics / communication engineering

Give me some advice pls
I'm in Germany btw and there are lots of semiconductor companies near my city

110 IQ and struggling with depression (especially tfw no gf) btw

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:07:29 UTC No. 16478968

>>16478039
> physics professor
> paid poorly
> homeless
start flipping burgers boomer

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:16:59 UTC No. 16478972

>>16478039
If someone is "smart" enough to get a big, fancy STEM degree, they really should be smart enough to figure out how to pay their rent, shouldn't they?

Pro Tip: if nobody is paying you good money for your "research", you aren't doing good research.

Now, STFU and go get my Latte along with the rest of the "very smart" Ph.D's working at Starbucks.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:18:47 UTC No. 16478974

>>16478323
Not at all. Just make sure you have a job waiting and you'll probably have to do at least a Masters, so it will take some time, but no one will care much about your age, really.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:23:13 UTC No. 16479017

>>16478963
I'm also studying EE in Germany. You should just pick what's more fun to you. I think you won't have trouble getting a job either way. I personally decided to go for automation, partially because of the versatile applicability. You can work for BASF and design control loops for chemical processes, but also work in robotics or in the automotive industry etc.
You should try out one or two lectures of each specialization if you can. Or at least take a look at the lecture notes for them to get a first impression. In my university you can still switch your specialization later on. I definitely wouldn't commit too early but instead try to get as much information as possible to see if you actually like the specialization. I originally picked something with electronics but then switched to automation later on.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:46:53 UTC No. 16479036

>>16478922
>>16478954
131

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:08:52 UTC No. 16479486

>>16478972
Autistic people are terrible at finances, and it doesn't even occur to them to apply for other jobs, so they just scream at people until they get what they want instead.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 19:15:21 UTC No. 16479625

What will put food on the table and shelter above my head, either in academia or industry, pure or applied math? Whatever it is it will have to do with analysis, my brain wrenches only that way

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 21:11:01 UTC No. 16479735

>>16478431
>embedded software design and digital circuit design: 70 IQ
I find that really hard to believe, especially as embedded software often requries assembly programming with very limited debug means.

t.Physicist who used to do embedded assembly programming

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 21:13:58 UTC No. 16479737

>>16478493
>I officially got my bs in physics last year
A congratulations! is in order.
> and I'm making $16/hr.
You are worth more than that.

>>16478525
Sadly, this is more or less the truth and a PhD is recommended in Physics in the FAQ.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 22:23:17 UTC No. 16479839

>>16478825
What does this even mean?
You have a job offer from each of those?

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 23:25:43 UTC No. 16479946

What would the best graduate degree for a BSc in CS be, if I want to pursue one in math/natural sciences? For instance, what could I do with a masters, or even PhD in applied maths? Assume an IQ of ~115

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 23:39:30 UTC No. 16479960

>>16479735
No one writes assembly anymore, it's mostly C. And a 70 IQ retard can easily write 10 lines of barely-functioning C code in a day as long as you have a few overworked 120 IQs on the team "reviewing" it (i.e. writing it for them).
Limited debugging just means we have a ridiculously long turnaround for finding and fixing bugs. The solution is more overworked 120 IQs running integration testing 7 days a week and "helping" the monkeys "fix" "their" code (i.e. rewriting it for them).
t. embedded software engineer

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 23:46:05 UTC No. 16479964

>>16478825
murrica wants more inhouse chip making. Having the skills to run a semiconductor plant could work out quite well imo

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 23:57:42 UTC No. 16479973

>dropped out of CS program because maths got too hard
>changed to brainlet business major with minor in management information systems
>graduated more than 2 years ago
>still unemployed
regrets

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 00:04:51 UTC No. 16479989

>>16479973
From what I've seen you probably had even worse chances of jobs with the CS degree.

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 03:45:46 UTC No. 16480183

If I want a research role in the AI/Machine learning industry in the future, what do I need to do in my Undergraduate/Masters? Do I need to have lots of research papers published? Can I do without a PhD?

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 05:58:22 UTC No. 16480241

>PI wants me to do a complex, time consuming, expensive, pain in the ass experiment that will need a fuckload of optimisation and that I'm certain will show nothing of interest anyway near the end of my PhD
>do a quick, cheap, easy experiment that measures that exact same thing instead, shows nothing of interest as expected
>PI says there's probably no point doing the pain in the ass experiment now
I'm amazed by my genius and laziness.

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 06:24:18 UTC No. 16480268

>>16480241
There's a saying that a great programmer is lazy, impatient, and prideful. Always searching for the lowest-effort solution, preferring immediate results, and wanting the computer to do as much of the work as possible. I suspect this is true everywhere.

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 07:23:18 UTC No. 16480319

I got my BS in EE about a year ago, is it worth it to get a MS in EE as well?

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 07:59:10 UTC No. 16480351

>>16480183
You will likely need at least a masters, papers help which is why PhDs are useful. If you want a cheatcode there is a 2nd year undergraduate attached to my research group who has more papers than me because he is attached to the ai interpretability community, which anyone can get involved in by joining their discord and showing interest. On the bad side you will also need to be in a polycule and start using the word "epistemic" too much

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 10:15:06 UTC No. 16480400

>>16478493
Take the quant pill(I havent even get my BsC yet but I'll autism maxx on statistical mech/stochastic calc just to get them sweet quantbux)

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 10:37:05 UTC No. 16480421

I have decided to REJECT the postdoc. Bye bye faggots!

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 12:47:42 UTC No. 16480599

Why is every civil engineering job post only about qs/cost estimation or CAD drafting? who the fuck actually designs these projects?

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 12:53:01 UTC No. 16480610

>>16480599
*CAD work, my bad

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 12:59:22 UTC No. 16480625

>>16478039
Unironically what is the point of a PhD? I seriously considered doing one because I was doing great research, but the entirety of your PhD revolves around printing papers, even more so when youre in a great school or under a famous advisor. 90% of the time, you'll be working in an overcrowded field so most of your contributions will amount to nothing, if you do work in a field where you can make real advances, it's usually underfunded. Meanwhile, the dumbest motherfuckers in your class are on their way to make 150k+ a year by job hopping, and by the end of your PhD, they visited countries, had 3 professional experiences, work in a FAANG/Big Pharma all with less effort and pain.

Even if you znd up discovering something insane, chances are some kid out of school will get rich off of your idea by building a startup around it, while you're designing your next conference poster that nobody will read.

The only explainable reason for the amount of PhDs in the US has to be euros, indians and chineses using grad studies to immigrate, there is no other way.

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 13:01:37 UTC No. 16480629

It will be a miracle if I am allowed into grad school. I feel humiliated just attaching my transcript. Whoever evaluates this piece of shit is going to be cringing so hard.

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 13:04:40 UTC No. 16480636

>>16480625
Personally I gave up on phd when I realized the only reason I was an incel was the severe lack of women in my field. I had one gap year working as an engie making 110k, and I would spend time in hobbyist/otaku/gaming communities in my spare time where most people are neets or losers, and me having my life somewhat figured out made it extremely easy to get into dating within these communities, I couldn't believe there were women out there that would even consider me as an option but here I was dating multiple girls.
I came back to academia and the incel lifestyle came back, I was making no money, had no time for friends, was overworked and had zero female presence in my life. I dropped out, fuck this shit.

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 13:23:26 UTC No. 16480658

>>16480629
Same
wagmi frendo

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 14:20:21 UTC No. 16480717

>>16478493
I got a masters and make 14.88 dollars an hour and no i am not joking

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 14:24:55 UTC No. 16480722

It shows that I'd have a lot of respect for my good heart and what could have been if it wasn't for your cheating shit. Beyond that, I get a lot of respect from the generosity of mankind anyhow. That will one day be thrown at you, and witness what is to be considered existences one great painer. One in existence.

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 14:33:37 UTC No. 16480729

>>16480625
I thought I wanted to be a scientist.

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 15:28:06 UTC No. 16480785

Every day I am reminded of my failures.

🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 15:30:19 UTC No. 16480787

We're under attack by aliens. Half of our species is just probed NPCs. Birds attack us, they call niggers nigger and pave the way for their revenge to cause hell, harsher hell combo. You'll know one day and think all your actions was worthless.

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 17:43:48 UTC No. 16480943

Why is engineering so fucking boring? I thought they would let me build stuff but it is literally lawyers with AutoCAD.

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 18:23:34 UTC No. 16480996

>>16479960
>No one writes assembly anymore, it's mostly C.
I did both.
>And a 70 IQ retard can easily write 10 lines of barely-functioning C code in a day
Sure, but the topic was assembly code.
>as long as you have a few overworked 120 IQs on the team "reviewing" it (i.e. writing it for them).
Why would you emply such people??
>Limited debugging just means we have a ridiculously long turnaround for finding and fixing bugs. The solution is more overworked 120 IQs running integration testing 7 days a week and "helping" the monkeys "fix" "their" code (i.e. rewriting it for them).
Hot take: employ competent people.
>t. embedded software engineer
And what do you estimate your IQ to be?

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:30:06 UTC No. 16481128

I want a really clean looking resume to impress the HR sluts like Patrick Bateman. Do I really need to write a lot of words on there?

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:56:28 UTC No. 16481153

>>16478039
College was a mistake I shouldve done trade school and join an electrician Union lol

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 20:08:56 UTC No. 16481169

>>16480636
>the only reason I was an incel was the severe lack of women in my field
This will be my cope from now on. Thank you anon

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 20:16:17 UTC No. 16481182

>>16480636
>I was making no money,[...] and had zero female presence in my life
Just how heartfelt is it really when postdoc income is a killer for relationships? I was credit checked once by women at work (shortly after I quit academia and the postdoc lifestyle), and they deemed my financial moxie to be far too insufficient for their needs. My reputation was well and truly shot.

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 21:24:38 UTC No. 16481271

In my first semester of a PhD. Is it normal to be so depressed you basically can't get out of bed for days?

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 21:36:30 UTC No. 16481289

>>16480629
>>16480658
Baste

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 00:30:37 UTC No. 16481491

>>16480717
A masters in what?

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 00:43:41 UTC No. 16481505

>>16478525
>PhD
lol, imagine not having a SPhD

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 02:20:51 UTC No. 16481599

>got rejection letter from Washington State's physics PhD program tonight
>I submitted the application over a year ago
lol

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 03:00:46 UTC No. 16481630

>>16478039
>his future
https://www.nairaland.com/1368514/graduate-phd-physics-31-commits

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 03:06:36 UTC No. 16481642

>>16481630
Very typical Anglo career trajectory.

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 03:12:44 UTC No. 16481648

>>16480319
Get a job with a company that wants to pay you to get an ms. You'll have money *and* direction.

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 03:14:05 UTC No. 16481651

what does an MSEE even do

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 03:15:16 UTC No. 16481653

>>16480943
what you wanted was to be an engineering technician, bucko.

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 04:16:29 UTC No. 16481705

>>16481630
Grim.

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 12:09:16 UTC No. 16482121

>>16478431
>control systems
>120
I got an IQ of 105, and here I thought I was gonna be fine working in control systems just cus I got a hang of most of my Modern Control Engineering textbook. At what point does it actually start to get hard?

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 12:10:36 UTC No. 16482125

>>16482121
When you start doing proper problems and not academic easy-problems.

Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 13:12:48 UTC No. 16482224

The whipping will continue until morale improves:
>The rehabilitation of KPMG
https://archive.is/ixTXu
>At a parliamentary committee hearing in 2018, Labour MP Peter Kyle told the firm’s then head of audit, Michelle Hinchliffe, and Peter Meehan, the lead auditor on Carillion, that he “wouldn’t hire KPMG to audit the contents of my fridge”.

The big accounting firms, also doing management consulting and KPMG is one of them, are not where you want to go to work the next 10 years.

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 01:41:32 UTC No. 16485661

>>16480351
Where do you find this discord

sage at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 01:55:26 UTC No. 16485673

Am a CS major.
>Shit undergrad in every way
>Online Masters while working
Not sure why I'm doing it to be honest, I have no future in academics. Should I just drop the program now or finish it? Finished the first year with a 4.0.

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 02:18:36 UTC No. 16485693

>Bachelors in AI (EU)
>top of class, cum laude w honours
>No job
>Back to grad school
you guys lied to me, nobody wants AI engineers

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 02:18:47 UTC No. 16485694

>have to be on the road for 200 days out of the year
>full per diem and expenses covered when I’m traveling but I’d still be paying for an apartment I’d never live in as a home base
>expected to completely relocate every 2 years or so
>job has me out in the field, on my feet 10-12 hours a day

Would you guys take it?

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 02:51:30 UTC No. 16485739

>>16480599
The guy who’s stamping the design package. You are literally a peon till you get your PE/SE license.

>he cranks out some calcs in excel, makes a table or two
>does some mark ups on a reference package
>transfers all this shit over to you to integrate into the deliverables
>does some QC
>kicks it back for changes
>seals and delivers after you do all the heavy lifting

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 04:26:26 UTC No. 16485872

Knowledge economy is dead.
We went from requiring a BSc, to requiring a MSc for most high-paid highly qualified professions, now we are practically asking for a PhD in most entry level positions of any company worth its salt.
The abundance of information and the accessibility to AI makes these degrees worthless.

I understand now why the smartest and brightest all flock to startup incubators, they know that just "knowing" enough about a field is not even the bare minimum requirement to get a job nowadays, you have to provide skills that arent accessible online or replicable by an AI, and those are entrepreneurship, charisma and craftsmanship,

I work a 6 figure jobs at an AI startup, the product is literally designed from the ground up to fully replace a creative sector, at one point we tried to hire humans because we wanted to go for a human-in-the-loop approach and it turns out the humans were the bottleneck and AI components outperformed them on most metrics, now the only job left for humans in the company are error handling, reviews and output quality checks. Fields that are completely detached from reality (finance, arts, music, software) and are not bound by the physical world because almost fully digitized will die, AI understand everything you throw at it, or at least understands enough to do 80/90% of the job faster than youll ever be capable of.

However, remarkably, one thing that stood out to me is AI's incapability with dealing with the real world. There is such a huge gap between what a computer can simulate and what happens in the real world. And even in simulation, agents seriously struggle with spatial representations. I can, at my current job, write an agent that codes and debugs and even make pull request on its own, but I cant make it work on simulation or robotics problems, because it does not have that intuition regarding the world.

I think that if someone wants to be safe for the future, they have to pivot to physical sciences and hardware.

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 04:32:45 UTC No. 16485879

>>16478313
>This field is for high IQs only!!!
Who is the high IQ between the guy who minimizes effort and maximizes reward, makes a million at 30 and retires early, and the guy who forces himself to go through "harder" disciplines only to get fucked over in the job market and complain online that he gets paid 60k a year?

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 04:45:09 UTC No. 16485895

>>16485879
Now you know.

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 05:21:37 UTC No. 16485931

>>16485872
>an AI startup

is it on stock exchange? ticker symbol? want to invest in it

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 06:44:50 UTC No. 16485972

>>16478963
>110 IQ
>electrical engineering
lol

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 08:04:35 UTC No. 16486009

>>16485661
EleutherAI

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 08:44:21 UTC No. 16486026

>>16478493
>Realized physics is a dead end during my MSc.
>Speedran C++, became a developer.
Regret nothing.

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 13:29:45 UTC No. 16486318

>>16478963
POWER
O
W
E
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Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 13:44:12 UTC No. 16486336

>>16485693
Nobody wants anybody right now. New grads least of all

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 15:10:55 UTC No. 16486438

>>16486026
Surely you need a bit more than just C++ knowledge to become a software developer, don't you?

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 15:24:27 UTC No. 16486447

>>16486438
The market has collapsed recently but software engineering is a fake job and requires very little skill to get into. When markets used to be good it was essentially free money for STEM burnouts bailing on academia. Tech interview culture is mostly programming puzzles that a math/physics grad can learn in a few months and the actual work is braindead

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 16:04:46 UTC No. 16486506

>>16486438
Well yes, but that was all learned through applying C++ in hobby projects.

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 17:18:45 UTC No. 16486593

>>16485872
Essentially you must be Chad

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 17:28:24 UTC No. 16486600

>>16485879
Obviously the entrepreneur but that's hardly the average business school student lol

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 17:48:12 UTC No. 16486630

>>16478313
Low. I don't have any concrete numbers, but if you can solve an IQ test fully, engineering classes are gonna bore you to death.
>>16478315
>I would like to know what the lowest and highest IQ engineers are
Highest IQ is probably process engineers, specifically me, kek. If the whole "half the time means one sigma more IQ" empirical correlation is valid for the higher ranges (as the guy taking my most recent test claimed) I supposedly have an IQ above 200 on the european scale, which (if the scale is correct) would suggest that there should only around 100 people world wide with higher IQ.

High IQ doesn't translate to high potential though. If you can't get necessary information to apply your intelligence, it can even be a hindrance compared to the retards who'll just guess and end up right 51% of the time.

B00T at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 17:50:09 UTC No. 16486634

>>16486630
Truth is, IQ doesn't mean anything. The most intelligent man may not be a trained animal on educations Pavlovian conditioning.

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 18:30:48 UTC No. 16486688

>>16486634
That's why Chris Langan was able to prove God when all the top scientists in the country are atheists. They're indoctrinated.

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 19:29:31 UTC No. 16486791

Large pay cut worth it for much better career trajectory? Talking 180k down to 120k. Lower salary gets me 10 minute commute or bike to work, versus 40 minutes (longer and more dangerous in the winter).

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 20:28:51 UTC No. 16486915

>>16486791
Im not making anything near that, but taking a paycut might not be an optimal move. It might send the wrong signals.

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 21:54:18 UTC No. 16487037

>>16486915
Wrong signals to who? The company hiring me is a different industry, they may not know what my current salary is, nor would I tell them.

Its a traditionally high paying field, and I likely wont get the same salary in this new field.

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 23:52:57 UTC No. 16487208

I can't even do half of the problems on my exams for first year PhD courses. Should I start planning to drop out?

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 00:45:10 UTC No. 16487269

>>16478493
Time to take the code monkey pill

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 00:48:25 UTC No. 16487273

>>16485673
Just do it
It can always help you get a job

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 01:36:57 UTC No. 16487342

>finish physics Ph.D. at 29
>4 papers out
It really is over innit

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 01:51:44 UTC No. 16487366

>>16480625
It's not called 'piled higher and deeper' for nothing. Just a way for colleges to milk their cattle for a few thousands more.

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 03:19:09 UTC No. 16487442

>>16487342
How is the job search?
>>16487208
Same. However, I heard the grades are too important, just pass the class and be done with it.

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 03:31:19 UTC No. 16487457

>>16487442
Currently a postdoc looking for positions that do not exist and if they do, will not hire me, and if they do, it's not in a place I want to live in

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 03:39:59 UTC No. 16487473

>>16480636
based. My advisor dropped me from their program and I unironically feel better now that I got dropped.

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 04:37:05 UTC No. 16487511

>>16487342
you still got 40 years in you of science

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 05:50:29 UTC No. 16487554

>utterly filtered beyond belief by undergrad engineering courses
okay maybe i am a shitter lol

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 05:54:37 UTC No. 16487560

I just got an offer for an engineering job where i need a Q clearance what am i in for?

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 08:44:17 UTC No. 16487649

>>16487560
Trust the plan.

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 10:10:22 UTC No. 16487693

>>16487560
2 more weeks

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 10:28:59 UTC No. 16487704

>>16487554
What class?

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 10:33:59 UTC No. 16487707

Made a face involuntarily when they asked me about DEI in the interview. Cmon guys Donald Trump is the president again, are we really still doing this shit?

B00T at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 10:35:29 UTC No. 16487710

>>16487707
Derp

You disagree with half of America

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 10:38:54 UTC No. 16487716

>>16487710
Yeah I'm in tune with the cool Pocs and Wocs that voted for MY president Donald J Trump a THIRD time.

B00T at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 10:40:26 UTC No. 16487717

>>16487716
You could have voted Kamala. Why didn't you. She was clearly the better option. Kys Biden and Kalama voter. Destroying white power.

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 14:31:52 UTC No. 16487874

>>16481630
Living the average life means spending most of your time working a job - which is in 99% of cases contributes nothing to society. That job is making a laughable amount of money, some people have that in days or minutes, and we work for it for a month or even a year. So no free time, no mobility in terms of finance, you will never achieve your material dreams (A car ? Never gonna happen. A house? Nope). Is it worth it to live like that? I don't think so.
Personally, if I don't reach some sort of success by the time I'm 30, I will join him to wherever he's at.

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 14:34:46 UTC No. 16487878

>>16480785
Same. Everyone is doing better than me in every possible way. I try to emulate them and it always ends up in disaster. I cannot help by compare myself to others.

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 14:42:04 UTC No. 16487887

>>16486791
Better in terms of better salary in the future, job security, or something else?

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 14:47:05 UTC No. 16487889

Fuck the current state of academia. It is bunch of clowns posing as smart people. They just lie and oversell their shitty ideas.

> Quantum Machine Learning
> Quantum Networking
> Reflective Intelligent Surfaces

Some of the useless fields that come to my mind. But these clowns farmed shit ton of citations on these fields. How?? You collude with each other to post on each other's workshops/journals/conferences to boost your shitty papers. Since all that matters is h index, not how you actually improve stuff.

And don't get me started on how you can change 2% of the work and publish it as new.

The fucking chinese niggers just pump out retarded papers with full of useless equations to seem smart.

Moreover the cunts are more lucky. WIE for example (Cunts in Engineering) are for useless cunts that can't do proper academic work but get free scholarships and conferences due to pussy pass. The system helps out more to women, even if you are unsuccessfull, in conferences gooners and feminist cunts will come to you. But if you are a normal hetero man, good luck nigger.

I fucking hate this system.

> It rewards being a whore and social more than it rewards merit.
> It rewards paper count more than quality

And the worst part is these motherfuckers rise to top using these exploit. And these niggers have the power to change the system. But why would these niggers change the system that gave them the power??

Fuck this shit. I don't know what to do after I get my EE PhD.

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 17:14:09 UTC No. 16488056

>>16487874
>jobs are about "contributing"
>muh passion
>compares himself to the 1%
Tell me you're an upper middle class failure to launch without telling me you're an upper middle class failure to launch

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 20:38:34 UTC No. 16488297

We really need some good news.
>Undergraduates with family income below $200,000 can expect to attend MIT tuition-free starting in 2025
https://news.mit.edu/2024/mit-tuition-undergraduates-family-income-1120
>And for the 50 percent of American families with income below $100,000, parents can expect to pay nothing at all toward the full cost of their students’ MIT education, which includes tuition as well as housing, dining, fees, and an allowance for books and personal expenses.
>This $100,000 threshold is up from $75,000 this year, while next year’s $200,000 threshold for tuition-free attendance will increase from its current level of $140,000.

We ARE going to make it!

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 20:41:12 UTC No. 16488302

>>16487878
I guarantee you there are heroin addicts and prison inmates who would kill to be in your position.

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 22:05:28 UTC No. 16488388

>>16487878
>I cannot help by compare myself to others.
Try once more: >>16468506

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 22:34:13 UTC No. 16488424

>>16488302
No they killed to get in their position.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 01:48:18 UTC No. 16488665

>>16487649
>>16487693
its actually an L clearance my bad

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 02:27:11 UTC No. 16488684

God thank fuck I am not in Academia.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 03:37:04 UTC No. 16488768

>>16488665
Hold this

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 12:17:59 UTC No. 16489049

Is the whole Quantum Computing shit a huge scam? My university just got a huge quantum computing institute and they are looking for student assistents.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 13:22:52 UTC No. 16489103

You know what I can't stand about academia? How laced up and unfunny everyone is. You'd think in a field with absolutely no pussy the guys would let their nuts hang, but its honestly like talking to fucking schoolmarms half the time.

The other thing I can't stand is how if your British and you don't go to oxbridge its over for you, you might as well kill yourself.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 13:32:17 UTC No. 16489114

did i make a mistake going into the nuclear field as a cheme? is it really a meme?

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 14:05:04 UTC No. 16489142

>>16489114
It's a huge meme outside of China. You are missing the golden age of electrochemistry right now.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 14:07:33 UTC No. 16489144

Mental that as a German you can go to a random public university and then apply for an internship or PhD at Max Planck and you immediately have a leg up on any Oxbridge student when it comes to the academic record of your institution.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 14:08:39 UTC No. 16489146

>>16489142
Are there us companies that work in china i could work for?

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 14:56:35 UTC No. 16489205

>>16489146
You are aware that nuclear energy is a dual-use tech that is subject to special export controls? Maybe pivot to nuclear medicine?

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 15:33:50 UTC No. 16489239

>>16489144
I am constantly being punked by Germans at conferences as a Brit (against my will, trust me). They always point out that as PhD students they get paid a lot more than us. It hurts, but we go on, what else can we do?

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 15:47:17 UTC No. 16489256

>>16489103
Like 95% of people in academia are there to status strive, of course they walk around presenting themselves with the utmost gravitas, that's the whole point. To be a severe, grim douchebag larping like you're at the apex of humanity.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 15:48:06 UTC No. 16489258

>>16489256
It's really quite sad. If you can't share a laugh with your brother man, what kind of life is that?

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 15:52:20 UTC No. 16489264

>>16489258
Idk, I have given up critiquing people's behavior, I realized we have a society that does huge damage to people as a matter of course and they cope with that however they can.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 15:55:11 UTC No. 16489268

>>16489264
That's a good point, I don't know everyone's story.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 16:08:26 UTC No. 16489276

>>16485694
Pls respond, I have to make a decision by Monday.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 17:13:36 UTC No. 16489361

>>16485694
>>16489276
yes, that's a lot of money. Just work it for a year or two and then job hop to something more stable.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 17:48:41 UTC No. 16489389

>>16489114
Westinghouse seems to be hiring and plutonium put production has restarted.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 20:16:48 UTC No. 16489565

What are the qualifications for highschool math instructor?

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 20:20:08 UTC No. 16489572

>>16489361
>yes, that's a lot of money.
Congrats this is all he wanted to hear.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 21:04:21 UTC No. 16489636

>>16489565
Being woke.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 21:44:56 UTC No. 16489683

>>16489572
>>16489361
Yeah it is good money. But fucking hell, RIP my life. Do I really want to sacrifice 3+ years of my late twenties living in a Marriott Extended Stay Hotel in some midwestern hellscape? My prospects for getting a GF were already bleak enough. Is watching number go up in my bank account going to be any consolation on a Saturday afternoon as I sit in my hotel room by myself? Everyone else I’ve met who’s doing this job are divorced alcoholics who only took it because they have child support to pay.

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 02:06:39 UTC No. 16490074

>>16489565
You'll be paid way less than what your worth. You have to deal with a whole lot of bullshit from office politics, to the behavior of your students, most of whom hate the class and everything to do with math, as well as angry parents. Maybe you'll have some outstanding students but most of them wont be able to remember anything and just rely on chatgpt.
Your performance may or may not be evaluated on how well said students perform on the state math tests.

Overall its a really shitty job and education has been in a catch 22 situation where districts cant keep teachers because of shitty pay, and no-one wants to become a teacher because the only teachers that have stayed are the shitty ones.
You'll have to be very patient and willing to deal with a necks worth of bullshit everyday.

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 10:40:51 UTC No. 16490319

Should I abandon science for engineering?

I have a Bachelor's in (Physical) Chemistry and unfortunately in my country you are not considered to be an employable Chemist if you don't have a PhD. However my university offers a graduate degree in Energy Science and Technology that is open to chemistry mayors because it deals in part with battery tech as a joined degree between the science and engineering faculties. I feel having a Master's in 'Energy Science and Technology' would make me more employable than just being a chem grad without a PhD.

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 12:53:04 UTC No. 16490393

I'm becoming a technical test manager despite my PhD being in geothermal power system networks.

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 13:01:24 UTC No. 16490401

>>>16490393
Shouldn't have done your PhD on an utopian energy source.

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:48:55 UTC No. 16490519

boys, is civil a good engineering field in 2024? I've been in community college for 2 years (getting an associate's in "Engineering Science") and I have good grades and can pretty much choose any program I want at my state school. I've stuck between civil and mechanical. I've heard both are versatile degrees. I've also heard a lot of shittalking about civil

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 16:51:36 UTC No. 16490557

>>16490319
the difference between science and engineering is like the difference between Germans and Italians. Both are white.

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 16:57:55 UTC No. 16490563

so, i had to lie in my application and it became clear in the interview
i'm a shit lier, if you must lie to seem more reputable practice it up before any interview, but by all means try to avoid it

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 19:42:49 UTC No. 16490771

>>16489683
>My prospects for getting a GF were already bleak enough.
Pic. rel shows we all have a hope! If he can, then so can we. We are all going to make it.

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 20:59:33 UTC No. 16490837

Some news on Master's degrees. The Economist is not above some trashy headlines.

>Is your master’s degree useless?
https://archive.is/HtM6Z
>In America close to 40% of workers with a bachelor’s also boast a postgraduate credential of some sort. In the decade to 2021 the number of postgraduate students there increased by 9% even as undergraduates fell by 15%. PhDs required by academics and long professional degrees of the sort needed by doctors and lawyers are becoming more popular. But master’s courses still account for most of the growth.

>Too many master’s courses are expensive and flaky
https://archive.is/FOVoe
>One analysis suggests that more than 40% of America’s master’s courses provide graduates with no financial return or leave them worse off, after considering costs and what they might have earned anyway. A study in Britain concludes that completing a master’s has, on average, almost no effect on earnings by the time graduates are 35.

there are many obvious questions aboutthat statistics that remain strangely unanswered.

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 21:08:37 UTC No. 16490843

>>16490563
can you be more specific, what did you tell them and how did you get exposed
>>16490837
there's a big lab in my field in Austin, Texas, i dont wanna go to burgerland mama nooooooo please

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 21:31:52 UTC No. 16490882

>>16490843
considering all other lies to pass undetected i mainly mixed up some projects in the cv, i could tell i was exposed as at least one of them raised her eyebrow in suspicion

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 22:57:02 UTC No. 16490948

>>16490519
Here is what you do, pretend you have already graduated and then go do a job search for civil engineer and read the type of listings. Then do the same thing for mechanical. Then try to compare and think about what you'd rather be doing.

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 22:59:53 UTC No. 16490953

>>16490837
I would never pay for a master's out of pocket.
I plan on attending a program over the next few years but only because my company will pay for ~70% of it.
The only utility I see in the master's is that I can advance to a higher job grade faster. The master counts as 2 years of experience. Since I'm getting the degree and working at the same time it's like I'm getting experience at a double rate.
That being said, my co-worker has been here 7 years, has a master's, and is still at a low job grade, so I don't even know if job grade advancement is automatic. Sounds like it isn't based on his case.

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 01:37:16 UTC No. 16491115

>got degree in computer engineer
>land first job in BAS controls engineering and do it for 8 years
>its the baby mode of every engineering discipline combined
>hate doing it and every other job posting is clearly exploitative
>not good enough at anything else to pivot into another field
>at most I could be a junior software dev at an abusive company for $20k less salary
What can I do bros?

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 01:56:33 UTC No. 16491130

>>16491115
>muh passion

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 03:15:37 UTC No. 16491205

What level of "over" is this?

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 03:41:56 UTC No. 16491241

>>16491205
I'm glad white collar job chasers are now getting completely fucked. Everyone has been screaming about this for DECADES but it was considered "low class" so they were mocked.

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 03:59:56 UTC No. 16491259

>>16490557
What an idiot

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 07:16:09 UTC No. 16491376

>>16486630
Would you like a job? I hate process engineering, it is boring and I dodge work/shit as much as possible.
I am trying to find new work and am in the process (lol) of quitting.
>high iq for process engineers
I suppose it depends what area you work in. I do injection moulding, and the guys below me, setters, are mostly dribbling retards who failed highschool.
No idea what my true iq is, but I did four different online mensa tests, and a couple others recommended on reddit's cognitive questioning page and recieved 131. Unfortunately, I get my lefts and rights confused often and have zero maths ability.

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 08:38:10 UTC No. 16491415

had it with women and jeets. i'm out
is it worth going back for geoscience?
are there minimal dei hires?
can anyone chime in?

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 09:20:48 UTC No. 16491440

>>16491415
There is no magic field of study that is going to insulate you from a collapsing society. You're fucked. Enjoy the decline.