🧵 Untitled Thread
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 03:21:58 UTC No. 16478526
Can NASA be saved or should we just privatize space exploration completely?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 03:36:57 UTC No. 16478536
>>16478526
He ain’t cleaning shit from NASA because they’re a customer’s of SpaceX. The SLS might die though!
As for space stuff in general — just let it die and be the purview of the launch industry. Everything beyond the Earth’s orbit is essentially a waste of money and things like the ISS are, too. ISS will stay because that’s the only customer for Crew Dragon.
But ultimately DOGE is a make-work fake agency for Elon to play with in exchange for his investment into Trump. It’s to larp as a counterforce to purge the bureaucracy. Presidents don’t have much power and the bureaucracy is heavily entrenched, something Trump voters have to learn once again.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 04:02:24 UTC No. 16478552
>>16478526
It's so sad to see what's become of NASA.
I hope it can be repaired.
It'll never be PAPERCLIP good again, but surely it can be better than... This.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 05:00:35 UTC No. 16478596
>>16478526
On the one hand, I'm all for reforming and cutting bureaucracy. On the other hand, this seems like a clear conflict of interest.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 04:03:22 UTC No. 16480191
>>16478526
>Can NASA be saved
NO!
Number one priority at NASA is DEI Astronauts
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 04:13:42 UTC No. 16480198
>>16478526
>privatize
>exploration
Does not exist. No profit motive. "Exploitation" is the word you're looking for.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 04:23:00 UTC No. 16480199
>>16478536
I mean the two largest budget sinks right now are SLS and MSR, both of which can be done better by SpaceX's Starship. So yeah he would cut the two largest programs. Congress decides the budget
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 04:24:03 UTC No. 16480202
>>16478526
>dailymail
nasa probably won't exist in 5 years
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 08:39:21 UTC No. 16481902
>>16478526
why not give the money to be instead?
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 11:48:18 UTC No. 16482093
>>16478526
>dailymail
Leave.
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 12:08:12 UTC No. 16482116
>>16482093
Are you claiming that the quotes from NASA employees are fake or that they don't piss away millions on DEI? Or are you just whining about a website you don't like?
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 14:21:24 UTC No. 16482335
>>16480198
are you proud of your historical illiteracy?
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 15:12:57 UTC No. 16482385
>>16482335
Go for it, kiddo. Educate them all.
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 16:09:40 UTC No. 16482475
>>16478526
that's 12 million total, in the span of 5 years, that's 1.2 million a year - barely enough for a single team of 10 people, if we're really really stretching it, and there's no other cost. the budget of NASA is $20 billion, and those alarming DEI expenditures are 1/2000th of the sum.
i've seen 25yo students pulling in 5-10 million grants, with nothing more than a proposal written during an all-nighter.
it's literally nothing. if i had to guess, and i'm probably underestimating, due to bureaucracy, governmental contracts, like 20% of the whole NASA budget goes to waste. 12 million is a drop in the ocean, and the only reason why someone would focus on that tiny, barely relevant part, is because people hate women and minorities. don't get me wrong, i'm all for getting rid of all the leeches, but jesus christ.
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 16:12:43 UTC No. 16482482
1/20,000th
sorry, messed up
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 16:19:02 UTC No. 16482511
>>16478526
NASA will become to BlueOrigin & SpaceX, et al, like the USPS became to UPS & FedEx, et al.
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 16:26:58 UTC No. 16482530
>>16478526
NASA should be stripped down to
1) science missions
2) technology development
That's it. Basic launchers are a solved problem, so let private industry do that. No more fucking jobs programs! No more bastardized rocket architectures designed to make work in all fifty states! SLS MUST DIE!
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 16:37:21 UTC No. 16482552
>>16482475
>i've seen 25yo students pulling in 5-10 million grants, with nothing more than a proposal written during an all-nighter.
Tons of post-PhD interns writing grant applications for telescope data and compute-cycles for the analysis to remain employed for next 3-5 years. And like 40%-50% is administrative overhead for the university.
$10 million spends fast at scale.
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 16:41:12 UTC No. 16482557
>>16480198
we don't call it colonizing mars for no reason
too bad there is no native martians to force out to make it really legit
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 16:48:28 UTC No. 16482571
>>16482552
it's pennies. putting DEI upfront offers a rallying point for the dem public, concerned with inclusiveness and such, shielding the actual offenders - the contractors. investigative journalism? concerned NASA employees? it's some PR company trying to shape the narrative.
it's a good sign, they wouldn't have done that, if they didn't feel threatened.
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 17:01:54 UTC No. 16482581
>>16482557
it's a barren wasteland with no resources or even breathable air or protection from high energy solar radiation and just getting a robotic probe there is a very expensive endeavor requiring years of planning and months of travel time, and that's just for a one way trip with zero life support.
"colonizing" such a place is sci-fi fantasy.
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 17:04:24 UTC No. 16482584
>>16480199
I'm just going to say that we should have a three stage rocket if we're serious about going to the Moon. Hate me idgaf
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 17:31:22 UTC No. 16482621
>>16482584
Apollo was really six stages. Three to get off earth, one to get to and from the moon, and the lander itself was two stages. All to get around the tyranny of the rocket equation: mass hurts! That is why I still doubt the SpaceX lander, way too massive, could have been much smaller if divided into a lander and an ascender stage.
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 19:07:14 UTC No. 16482889
>>16482571
>putting negroes up front to shield the actual offenders: the Jew
fixed
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 02:00:37 UTC No. 16487382
>>16482621
Don't see why you couldn't use superheavy as a booster and put two more expendable lunar stages on there.