🧵 ISS Leaking AIr
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:22:10 UTC No. 16479177
Just after 2 astronauts were stranded on the ISS for 200 days on an 8-day mission, the ISS is now discovered to be leaking air.
The 2 astronauts are stuck on the ISS, and they're quickly running out of oxygen. Time is ticking.
Who can save these stranded astronauts?
How is this piece of technology, which costs $3,000,000,000 a year to run ($150,000,000,000 total to develop + launch), failing this badly?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:26:39 UTC No. 16479178
>>16479177
They've been planning to crash it for a while now.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:29:42 UTC No. 16479179
>>16479177
>designed to last 20 years
>more than 20 years old
simple as
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:33:57 UTC No. 16479181
>>16479177
>Russia isn't convinced it's that serious
kek
>no problem tovarisch, just normal air leak. ignore and problem go away, da?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:38:34 UTC No. 16479182
>>16479180
I still don't understand how it happened. The drill that nasa aren't meant to drill holes. its only meant to unscrew bolts. Plus is massive and so are the bolt. And its not like aluminum could be hand drilled either.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:40:09 UTC No. 16479183
>>16479182
Anything that turns can drill
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:43:07 UTC No. 16479184
>>16479177
oh boy a new psyop has dropped
what does this have to with /g/ you fucking spambot?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:45:07 UTC No. 16479185
>>16479182
it's a tiny hole
the drill could have been part of any number of experiments. dental care maybe even
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:47:18 UTC No. 16479186
>>16479180
>woman
>homosexual
Not shocking she went batshit and fucked shit up.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:49:27 UTC No. 16479188
>>16479177
>the ISS is now discovered to be leaking air.
They've known about it for a long time.
But it is getting worse.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:50:14 UTC No. 16479189
>>16479181
>no Russians on board
>Russians saying "not a big problem"
>even though leaking air can cause the ISS to break up in space which is the main worry of NASA
Russians want it the ISS to go down lol.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:50:39 UTC No. 16479190
ISS is the stupidest shit ever. What a waste of taxpayer dollars. Fuck humanity and its aspirations.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:50:58 UTC No. 16479191
>>16479189
>no Russians on board
really? I thought there were at least 50% of Russians on board.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:51:29 UTC No. 16479192
>>16479177
>How is this piece of technology, which costs $3,000,000,000 a year to run ($150,000,000,000 total to develop + launch), failing this badly?
Tidal forces and heating.
SS2 !!WVqoLX59JkL at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:52:30 UTC No. 16479193
>>16479177
Whipple shield failures. Even a grain of sand going mach 5+ in space can fuck shit up which is why we invented whipple shielding but that's just buying us time so if you don't replace them often enough I can see how this could lead to small air leaks that are hard to detect.
Dead space is deadass scary shit yo.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:56:44 UTC No. 16479194
>>16479193
If a grain of sand going mach 5 passed straight through your brain, would you even notice anything
Most of the brain is unnecessary and you can live without it, just makes you lose a few IQ points
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:59:20 UTC No. 16479195
>>16479187
I think I'm in the wrong timeline again
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:04:50 UTC No. 16479196
>>16479177
>nyet problem, normal katastrof
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:10:42 UTC No. 16479197
>>16479181
They're saying it's not a problem because the leak is on their side of things
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:15:00 UTC No. 16479198
>>16479197
>the leak is on my side of the boat, don't worry
based
SS2 !!WVqoLX59JkL at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:16:48 UTC No. 16479199
>>16479194
Dunno but small caliber hypervelocity rounds are famous for causing concussions in soldiers wearing helmets and that's just at mach 2-3. A grain of sand is obviously smaller but going mach 5 and concentrating all that kinetic energy into such a small point sounds fatal especially if you're not wearing a helmet.
I'd much rather take my chances with a plasma rifle melting part of my face off.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:19:01 UTC No. 16479200
>>16479177
>stranded on the ISS for 200 days on an 8-day mission
is it that much easier to just send up food and water? also how can you fuck up so badly that you don't organise a transport after six+ months when they were supposed to have one after eight? aren't these space missions meticulously planned?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:22:14 UTC No. 16479201
>>16479194
There was one physicist who had a single proton pass through his brain at relativistic speed in some accident and got pretty fucked up, so yes you will probably notice if the ~10^19 protons in a grain of sand went through your brain.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:24:04 UTC No. 16479202
>>16479200
It would embarrass the government if they had space x go get them.
No way they would let that happen in an election year.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:29:31 UTC No. 16479203
>>16479201
It wasn't a single proton, he walked into an active particle accelerator. He's 82 now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anato
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:29:31 UTC No. 16479204
>>16479177
>Just after 2 astronauts were stranded on the ISS for 200 days on an 8-day mission
was their mission special and military?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:36:35 UTC No. 16479205
>>16479187
so thats why he wasn't accustom to breathing in our atmosphere. RIP.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:38:21 UTC No. 16479206
>>16479182
aluminum is very easy to drill, you can do it by hand even
SS2 !!WVqoLX59JkL at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:38:26 UTC No. 16479207
>>16479203
>Bugorski completely lost hearing in the left ear, replaced by a form of tinnitus.[6] The left half of his face was paralysed due to the destruction of nerves.[1] He was able to function well, except for occasional complex partial seizures and rare tonic-clonic seizures.
hory shet
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:42:28 UTC No. 16479208
>>16479182
>And its not like aluminum could be hand drilled
youre joking right? i can cut aluminum with a fucking butter knife and your telling me i cant hand drill it?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:43:53 UTC No. 16479209
wagies life aint wirth what it used to it seems
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:50:32 UTC No. 16479210
>>16479204
OP is referencing Boeing's shit heap which had so much trouble getting to the ISS that NASA decided to return the capsule without crew. It "stranded" 2 astronauts in that for 19 days there wasn't enough American seats to actually evacuate the crew until the Crew-9 mission on SpaceX's Dragon arrived with 2 other astronauts and 2 empty seats. If they had to they would have been strapped to the cargo area of the Crew-8's Dragon that was docked.
The 200 days comes from the time extra the astronauts spent in space as NASA and Boeing debated a return and Crew 9's expected return to earth.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:54:38 UTC No. 16479211
>>16479210
the shartliner landed without a problem tho
it is NASAs problem now
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:57:22 UTC No. 16479212
>>16479182
Aluminum is very strong, but not very hard. Yes, there is a difference. Drill bits attack the hardness to start carving out the metal. Drill Al is easy.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 02:20:10 UTC No. 16479213
>>16479178
yes. it's been leaky and in all states of malfunctioning since it became a space station. i'm sure there's a tonne of things about the iss that we don't know about and never will know about.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 02:37:36 UTC No. 16479214
>>16479177
>Who can save these stranded astronauts?
No one is stranded on the ISS now.
They all have transport off ready to go.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 04:54:41 UTC No. 16479215
>>16479206
>>16479208
>>16479212
Guaranteed none of you nigger worked with metal before in your life and probably thought all aluminum are the same. something like 7075 is literally impossible to hand drill even with a machine they are a pain in the ass to work with.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 05:07:18 UTC No. 16479216
>>16479202
>No way they would let that happen in an election year
And they still lost lmao
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 05:08:49 UTC No. 16479217
>>16479215
*alumina
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 05:10:02 UTC No. 16479218
>>16479205
is there any bigfloyd73 archive out there?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 05:15:15 UTC No. 16479220
insert ebussy "Usecase for Air?"
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 07:02:49 UTC No. 16479221
>>16479199
What matters isn't how much energy a projectile has but how much energy a projectile imparts into the target, a helmet stops the bullet and doesn't let it pass through so the energy has to get absorbed by the wearer's head.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 07:08:31 UTC No. 16479222
>>16479198
Well, America could just seal them off if it gets worse.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 08:18:57 UTC No. 16479223
>>16479215
>something like 7075 is literally impossible to hand drill even with a machine they are a pain in the ass to work with.
Lmao that's not even remotely true.
.t actual machinist
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 08:20:02 UTC No. 16479224
>>16479177
Why don't they just let this POS waste of money crash and burn? Literally worthless.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 08:54:30 UTC No. 16479225
>>16479193
>>16479194
>>16479199
>>16479201
american education, everyone.
>>16479221
is right. only energy really matters.
btw, that video (>>16479193) is a 3 mm aluminum sphere at >mach 20. it should weigh about 21 mg. a typical grain of sand is <1 mm in diameter and weighs about 0.05 mg.
with E_kin = 0.5mv^2, the difference in energy is a factor of about 6700. so no, a grain of sand at mach 5 is not THAT scary. in fact, to reach the same energy, the grain of sand would have to travel at mach 410.
also keep in mind that mass scales to the cube of size. so a smaller object has to be disproportionally faster for the same energy. which is why small, high-velocity particles mostly aren't a threat.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 08:56:18 UTC No. 16479226
>>16479196
No, it's not normal. Fix the station's air leak, Mikhailovich.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 09:00:42 UTC No. 16479227
>>16479225
It can have 1000,000,00000 bajillion jewls of energy but it won't matter because what matters is how much energy gets transferred to you. if a piece of sand punches all the way through your head then most of the energy is still in the sand. on the other hand if the sand only goes through your skull and half of your brain then it's worse because now you have sand stuck in your brain.
I think the proton caused so much damage because there was more than 1 of them and they also fuck with atoms and ionize shit more than a simple physical objet travelling at normal-ish speeds that aren't represented as fractions of c.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 09:04:15 UTC No. 16479228
>>16479180
Wait, isn't that the hole in the Russian capsule? You know, the one made in Russia by Russians? Russians, the PoC of Eastern Europe? Who said, after an extra drill hole was found in something that their vodka enjoyers made, that they dindu nuffin and it was probably NASA trying to keep the """white""" man down?
Jesus, the retards on this site.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 09:04:57 UTC No. 16479229
>>16479177
>How is this piece of technology, which costs $3,000,000,000 a year to run ($150,000,000,000 total to develop + launch), failing this badly?
Complete mystery.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 09:33:17 UTC No. 16479230
>>16479227
>jewls
kek
at sub-atomic sizes we are dealing with completely different mechanisms of interacting with matter. and in the particle accelerator case, the issue wasn't a single proton, as you already figured. it was a whole beam of protons.
ever heard of alpha radiation? it's helium nuclei (i.e. 2 protons, 2 neutrons), typically at 5 to 7 % the speed of light. while it's the most dangerous type of radiation, singular hits won't harm you. (in fact, your skin already stops it, the biggest danger is in ingesting an alpha emitter.)
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 09:42:18 UTC No. 16479231
>>16479229
There is no competence crisis, just a lack of wages.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 09:47:10 UTC No. 16479232
>>16479178
Too bad they're not welcome on the Tiangong space station.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 10:53:35 UTC No. 16479233
>>16479231
surely you meant lack of wagies
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 10:55:31 UTC No. 16479234
>>16479233
>blaming the victim
either pay more, or fix the inflation, choice is yours
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 11:04:19 UTC No. 16479236
>>16479228
>Jesus, the retards on this site.
Leave, we'll have one less
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 11:35:54 UTC No. 16479237
>>16479189
there are three cosmonauts on board
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 11:39:22 UTC No. 16479238
They didn't design it to last more than 20 years
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 11:45:53 UTC No. 16479239
wow 3 billion
wow
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 11:53:55 UTC No. 16479240
>Russian
>50 years manned space missions. Not once had an issue with boring random holes into the hulls of their vessels (especially given they don't even carry specialized boring equipment)
>explosions? Sure. Being eaten by bears after landing in Siberia. Of course
>always at least a related mishap.
>but the one instance in the history of their space program where they share a space with a psychotic woman, they have this accident
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 11:56:42 UTC No. 16479241
>>16479240
>psychotic woman
Weren't the doctors supposed to find out if she's crazy and stop her from going.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 11:57:47 UTC No. 16479242
>>16479241
No, doctors are supposed to find the meds that will make the most money.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 12:39:14 UTC No. 16479243
>>16479182
>its not like aluminum could be hand drilled
I thought this was supposed to be the smart people board.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 12:40:33 UTC No. 16479244
>>16479243
This is a board about advertising phones.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 12:41:42 UTC No. 16479245
>>16479244
the consumer technology you use is bad
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 12:46:15 UTC No. 16479246
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 12:49:19 UTC No. 16479247
>>16479246
*snap*
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 12:55:54 UTC No. 16479248
>>16479211
It landed without a problem but Boeing couldn't guarantee the safety of astronauts aboard, so the decision was made to not use it.
So it's great it returned safely, but Boeing already screwed the pooch and it kinda doesn't matter that the capsule landed alright.
I wouldn't be shocked if starliner never launches again, or at most 1 or 2 more times and then never again. Unless Boeing can find someone to buy starliner off of them.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:07:27 UTC No. 16479249
IT'S THE FUCKING CHINESE
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:09:43 UTC No. 16479250
>>16479194
>would you even notice anything
you probably wouldn't mate
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:10:04 UTC No. 16479251
>>16479246
I' xD'd irl, 4chins is just right some times
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:11:33 UTC No. 16479252
>>16479203
russians are truly indestructible
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:18:24 UTC No. 16479253
Clearly it's the woman astronaut's fault.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:23:38 UTC No. 16479255
>>16479177
>a problem that could be solved with a single stick of chewing gum
Even though they take up less than a penny on the dollar of my taxes, modert NASA is a disgrace.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:32:09 UTC No. 16479256
>>16479248
Keep seeing rumors that the government is going to allow Boeing to fail, which everyone said would never be permitted to happen. The aviation part of the company would be merged into GE Aerospace. Boeing's space division probably will be bought piecemeal by whatever aerospace company is interested in particular parts of their IP and facilities. It's unlikely anyone would want to buy that part of Boeing as a whole intact department.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:39:32 UTC No. 16479257
>>16479240
You know that Russian incompetency has been fucking over ISS for a while already? Not mentioning the Russian modules that has been leaking all over the place, the nauka module just straight up tried to destroy ISS.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:41:36 UTC No. 16479258
>>16479256
Maybe MAYBE blue origin would buy starliner for New Glenn, but unlikely as New Glenn has a 7 meter diameter whereas SLS has an 8 meter diameter that tapers down to around 5 meters where the capsule is staged. I guess they could do some adapter stage, but yea blue origin has supposedly been working internally on a New Glenn crew capsule for over a year, so they likely aren't too interested in purchasing starliner anyway.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:42:31 UTC No. 16479259
>>16479254
>communism doesn't wo-
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:44:05 UTC No. 16479260
>>16479177
It's from the holes that crazy lady drilled. Just chew some 5-gum and plug the crazy lady holes.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:44:28 UTC No. 16479261
>>16479257
You're seething through your asshole and making shit up at this point. Lay off the internet for a while, for your own good
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:49:11 UTC No. 16479262
>>16479260
Basically all evidence suggests it was Russian quality control from the guys who built the thing.
Seriously, there aren't even drill bits on board to do that kind of drilling.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:51:34 UTC No. 16479263
>>16479261
>making up shit about things that can be easily googled
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:56:17 UTC No. 16479264
>Russian teams believe the air leak was likely caused by high cyclic fatigue from micro vibrations, while teams at NASA think pressure and mechanical stress, residual stress, material properties of the module, and environmental exposure are all at play, according to SpaceNews.
They really are not sending their best are they?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:59:20 UTC No. 16479265
>>16479264
It's russian modules that are shitting the bed
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:09:45 UTC No. 16479266
>>16479177
Something like 100% of the leaks come from the Russian parts.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:11:16 UTC No. 16479267
>>16479262
>>16479265
>>16479266
>they totally drilled holes in their own shit, trust me bro
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:12:41 UTC No. 16479268
>>16479267
>>>they totally drilled holes in their own shit, trust me bro
I think you mean Russia used a part that some drunk factory worker had drilled a hole in and snuck it through what passes for Russian QC.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:14:09 UTC No. 16479269
>>16479177
For some reason I'm not worried about this. Pic related.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:16:36 UTC No. 16479270
>>16479269
Lol lmao
I honestly wish I could be this retarded, the world must look so much simpler.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:17:50 UTC No. 16479271
>>16479268
>they totally drilled holes in their own shit, trust me bro
any other /x/-tier conspiracy theories you want to share with us?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:21:28 UTC No. 16479272
>>16479271
Yet your theory that a heartbroken astronaut found a drill bit, snuck into Soyuz and drilled a hole into it, is somehow NOT a wild conspiracy theory but the most LIKELY thing to have happened?
Glad to see you have no bias here.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:22:48 UTC No. 16479273
>>16479271
Yeah, clearly someone was able to sneak away to drill a whole in complete privacy in a volume the size of a school bus without anyone noticing.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:26:53 UTC No. 16479274
>>16479267
if there was a hole at all, I'm pretty sure they'd feel it and it would depressurize in like one nanosecond, retards often forget that 1 atmosphere is around 15 PSI
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:31:35 UTC No. 16479275
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:32:17 UTC No. 16479276
>>16479275
>pol
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:33:47 UTC No. 16479277
>>16479180
>someone magically snuck into the russian quarters and drilled into the wall without being interrupted by the inhabitants
yeah, right
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:34:12 UTC No. 16479278
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:34:31 UTC No. 16479279
>>16479275
it should be legal to kill this kind of person in space
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:36:04 UTC No. 16479280
>>16479275
Lol what kind of bullshit fantasy is that?
This "ruined" decades of research? The ISS has always been planned to deorbit in the 2020s. The original modules were only built for 10-15 years of expected use.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:36:28 UTC No. 16479281
>>16479240
>installs gyro upside-down
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:38:57 UTC No. 16479282
>>16479274
>if there was a hole at all, I'm pretty sure they'd feel it and it would depressurize in like one nanosecond
nope
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:39:24 UTC No. 16479283
wtf does this whole reddit hate jews too
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:39:59 UTC No. 16479284
just make shit up and get angry about it and make shit up and get angry about it and make shit up and get angry about it and make shit up and get angry about it
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:41:04 UTC No. 16479285
>>16479229
The most complex system is society.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:41:23 UTC No. 16479286
>>16479282
argumentate why, explain how they can generate enough gas to be pressurized forever, where do they get the nitrogen from for example which isn't even really consumed in large quantities by anyone or anything.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:42:24 UTC No. 16479287
>>16479285
It's over, the iceberg has fallen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnT
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:42:26 UTC No. 16479288
>>16479177
Just crash this abomination of failed cooperation into the planet and be done with it already.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:43:26 UTC No. 16479289
>>16479286
it won't stay pressurized forever. however, a small hole doesn't result in rapid decompression.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:43:51 UTC No. 16479290
>>16479286
you spend alot of time on tiktik dont you?
>proof?
>proof?
>source?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:45:55 UTC No. 16479291
>>16479290
I see your father spent a lot of time on blacked.com while your mother was giving birth to you with your actual father.
>>16479289
>small hole doesn't result in rapid decompression
it does in all high pressure vessels, explain how ISS is different
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:50:04 UTC No. 16479292
>>16479291
busted. go back to arguing on tiktok lmao
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:50:26 UTC No. 16479293
>>16479290
>asking for evidence is... *le bad*
this can't be your best cope
hit me with your best cope
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:50:46 UTC No. 16479294
>>16479291
>a 1atm differential forcing 1,005m^3 of air through a little hole "in nanoseconds"
engage critical thinking skills, please
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:51:50 UTC No. 16479295
>>16479294
I hope such pressure front was directed at your body so I'd never have to see your retarded posts again
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:52:38 UTC No. 16479296
>>16479293
yodawg, tiktok wouid have you believe dems would win. never thought 4skin didnt know how to google themselves. the bastion of truth and smart computer people
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:53:27 UTC No. 16479297
>>16479296
not sure why you're projecting this hard but please, keep going
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:53:36 UTC No. 16479298
>>16479295
stupid russian retard
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:54:48 UTC No. 16479299
>>16479298
>I am a stupid russian retard
oh okay I see the problem and why you believe that the hole will remain small forever, if this were to actually happen in a vacuum
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:55:32 UTC No. 16479300
>>16479299
the ISS isn't a balloon
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:55:35 UTC No. 16479301
>>16479297
my god, the projection trend has caught on on tiktok yet, please stop. thats another one of the 5 stages of grief
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:55:54 UTC No. 16479302
>>16479291
>it does in all high pressure vessels, explain how ISS is different
No it doesn't.
The ISS is effectively a 241,867 gallon air tank at 14.7 psi, space is 0 PSI. That's not a massive pressure difference, it's not like a submarine under 10000 meters of water getting crushed by ~15500 PSI.
When you're dealing with 14-15 PSI vs 0 PSI and you've got a tiny pinprick hole, it's quite a slow leak, it would likely take days with zero oxygen generation before it became an issue.
And again the pressure difference never would be high enough to lead to some catastrophic cascade of failures.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:56:09 UTC No. 16479303
>>16479275
>2 years ago
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:56:42 UTC No. 16479304
>proof?
>source?
>youre projecting
this is getting worse than leddit
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:56:59 UTC No. 16479305
>>16479300
it quite literally is
>>16479302
>that's not a massive pressure difference
I guess ripping your lungs out is not massive enough, subhuman redditor
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:57:01 UTC No. 16479306
>>16479262
Use the internet to find the articles.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:57:56 UTC No. 16479307
>>16479304
>has to reply twice for good measure
lol
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:59:05 UTC No. 16479308
>>16479307
omg you just rekt me LMFAOOOOOO DUUUUUUUUDE
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:59:35 UTC No. 16479309
>>16479308
are you ok?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:59:41 UTC No. 16479310
>>16479303
Oh yeah and let's ignore the current ISS commander is female. Even though his rant claims missions control was done sending women to space.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:00:40 UTC No. 16479311
>>16479309
just trying to make sure you feel smart n stuf haha fuck ya reddit4lyfe
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:00:41 UTC No. 16479312
>>16479306
Yes, they're all Russian news articles or western conservative media using the Russian news as their source.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:03:44 UTC No. 16479313
>>16479178
With no survivors
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:06:44 UTC No. 16479314
>>16479305
Are you actually retarded?
How is a 15 PSI pressure differential going to be catastrophic?
Remember Delta P videos where the crab gets liquidified? That's from there being a MASSIVE pressure difference.
The byford dolphin incident was caused by going from 132 PSI to 15 PSI. That's a large pressure difference.
Going from 0 PSI to 15 PSI is nothing in comparison, and is equivalent to diving 10 meters under water. Barely noticeable.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:09:30 UTC No. 16479315
>>16479314
>diving 10 meters under water
>barely noticeable
now do it in a nanosecond
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:10:46 UTC No. 16479316
>>16479314
Hollywood continues to show small leaks in spacecraft being catastrophic and that's where most people get their conception of what an air leak would be like.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:11:12 UTC No. 16479317
>>16479315
Do you really think that matters?
Also it didn't happen in a nanosecond, it was a manufacturing fault, it went up on a rocket where the pressure would've slowly dropped over a minute or two, not a nanosecond.
You're just a moron who can't understand basic physics.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:11:50 UTC No. 16479318
>>16479315
Why would all the air exit out a tiny hole in a nanosecond when there's only one ATM of pressure?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:12:05 UTC No. 16479319
>>16479317
if there's a hole, it's constantly depressurizing and it would take hours for everyone inside to choke out
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:13:25 UTC No. 16479320
>>16479319
This implies they're not generating any new oxygen (they are), and also the internal volume of the ISS is hundreds of thousands of gallons, a tiny pinprick hole leaking at 1 atmosphere would take AGES to fully depressurize
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:14:41 UTC No. 16479321
>>16479316
Even so, you'd think once you point out the minimal pressure difference it would settle the matter...
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:15:13 UTC No. 16479322
>>16479320
this isn't about oxygen you retarded nigger
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:15:38 UTC No. 16479323
everyone in this thread is a niggerfaggot
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:17:22 UTC No. 16479324
>>16479322
It's about atmosphere, the primary component of which matters to humans being alive and breathing, is oxygen. Production of oxygen, pressurizes the station, and production outpaces the leak.
Do you need more hand holding here?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:18:15 UTC No. 16479325
They could have just ejected the crazy lady into space when they found the first 3 holes.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:19:45 UTC No. 16479327
>>16479325
Show me literally any actual evidence she did it and we can talk.
As it is, odds are much more likely Russia doesn't want to publicly admit their manufacturing QC sucks dicks.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:20:51 UTC No. 16479328
>>16479327
Nope. It will be our little secret.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:21:40 UTC No. 16479329
>>16479177
NASA astroonaut drilled another hole.
>inb4 noo it was drunk russians who then patched up the hole and their patch failed weeks later in space
This is the hole. There is NO EVIDENCE that this hole was previously patched. There are still little shards of loose metal in the hole, left behind when it was drilled.
>inb4 fake copypasta about the astroonaut somehow irradiating the ISS with a wrench or some nonsensical shit like that
Just because she drilled the hole, doesn't make the rest of that copypasta real. It contains many nonsensical claims.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:21:51 UTC No. 16479330
>>16479326
I mean they also use nitrogen for this, but the ratio is kept pretty similar to earth normal, 80/20.
Are you really trying to act like this is some "gotcha" and I was unaware of nitrogen?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:22:34 UTC No. 16479331
>>16479182
>And its not like aluminum could be hand drilled either.
You have completely discredited yourself. It is time for you to kill yourself.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:22:56 UTC No. 16479332
>>16479330
you mean the very same nitrogen that's currently escaping the space station allegedly? You mean that nitrogen, right, anon? Not some imaginary nitrogen generated from nowhere?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:23:33 UTC No. 16479333
>>16479331
With what drill bits?
It's clearly a proper drill bit that drilled the hole from the pictures, but those bits aren't aboard the station. So where did it come from?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:24:23 UTC No. 16479334
>>16479333
>those bits aren't aboard the station
how do you know that?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:25:02 UTC No. 16479335
>>16479332
Then it's a good thing they get regular resupplies which include nitrogen huh?
Again, are you ACTUALLY retarded or do you just enjoy pretending for attention?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:25:46 UTC No. 16479336
>>16479333
If the hole was drilled before the capsule went to orbit, then why didn't the air pressure start dropping as soon as the hatch to the capsule was opened?
>it was patched
Then why are there still slivers of metal left behind in that hole? If the hole was patched and then the patch failed, it would remove those slivers of metal. There is NO residue of any sort of patch left behind either. There is no evidence of any patch.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:26:07 UTC No. 16479337
>>16479334
There is no purpose for any?
The drill they do have is for unscrewing bolts and screwing them back in, not drilling holes. I am almost positive they literally don't even have drill bits for it.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:26:10 UTC No. 16479338
>>16479335
So now plants don't repressurize anymore, now it's supplies coming to an abandoned space station that can't even get off a whore faster than in 9 months? What will be your next hallucination I wonder.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:27:11 UTC No. 16479339
>>16479338
We know who you voted for
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:27:12 UTC No. 16479340
>>16479336
She was coo coo for coco-puffs. Some people are not as sane once in space as their tests would suggest. Time to make better tests in simulated environments. I'd wager not even 1% of this place could be in space for more than a month without going coo coo for coco-puffs.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:29:31 UTC No. 16479341
>>16479339
What an odd thing to admit that you're a glownigger but then say something untruthful like knowing who I voted for (pray do tell us all).
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:30:33 UTC No. 16479342
>>16479254
>>16479254
Most of the problems are avoided by just having a brand new space station. ISS is an old piece of shit. We'll see when the Chink station is as old as the ISS. Or actually we won't since Chinks won't tell release anything about station health to the public.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:31:32 UTC No. 16479344
>>16479337
If it's anything like a normal drill, I'm positive you could fit it with an off the shelf drill bit. Considering astronauts can take cameras and other random personal shit with them (with a few limitations), I don't think there had to be a specific reason for a drill bit to appear on the space station.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:31:50 UTC No. 16479345
>>16479342
Make the new one out of recycled paper. Go Green.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:33:27 UTC No. 16479346
> The accusation was denied by NASA and officials say they knew the precise locations of the US astronauts before the leak occurred and at the moment it began. None were near the Russian segment where the Soyuz vehicle was docked. NASA said they shared this data with Russians
> The accusations in 2021 came during a period of increased geopolitical tensions between the US and Russia. It also came weeks after a particularly embarrassing moment for Roscosmos; during the docking of the Nauka module its engines kept firing causing the causing the entire space station to flip over one and a half times.
Lol sorry but anyone who believes the Russians on this are just Russian shills, anti-American shills, or just hate women (or a combination).
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:33:46 UTC No. 16479347
>Would NASA really lie about one of their astronauts going crazy?
There is historic precedence for this! On the space shuttle mission STS-51-B the payload specialist Taylor Wang (chinese-american) threatened to murder-suicide the entire crew by opening up the hatch. He was upset because his experiment wasn't working and mission control wouldn't give him time to fix it, so he told them that if he wasn't allowed to fix his experiment he wouldn't be coming home. Then he started asking other crew members about the hatch door
>so if I turn that handle, all the air in the shuttle goes right out??
The rest of the crew was obviously disturbed and duct-taped the hatch closed just to be safe. On a few subsequent missions, the shuttle commander brought a padlock along with him and padlocked the hatch closed once in orbit, just in case anybody went crazy again.
So here's the NASA lying angle: NASA never discllosed this incident to the public. When asked about the padlocks on the hatch doors, they claimed that the padlocks were merely there to prevent an astronaut from accidentally bumping into the handle. They framed it as a safety measure meant to prevent accidents, not a response to the threat of an astronaut going crazy and murder-suiciding the whole crew. NASA covered up the mental health problem out of concern for their public image.
All of this is documented here: https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:33:53 UTC No. 16479348
>>16479346
Posted like a true American shill
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:34:33 UTC No. 16479349
>>16479343
They use small mosquito fart thrusters to maneuver near ISS. The final closure speed is centimeters in seconds. It's agonizingly slow in real life and not at all like in the movies.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:35:44 UTC No. 16479350
>>16479348
Yet the Russian evidence is "well she's a woman".
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:37:11 UTC No. 16479351
>>16479347
>An important clue comes from the oral history of astronaut Henry Hartsfield, who commanded STS-61-A, another Spacelab mission that took flight just six months after Wang's flight in 1985.
>"Early on when we were flying payload specialists, we had one payload specialist that became obsessed with the hatch," he said. "'You mean all I got to do is turn that handle and the hatch opens and all the air goes out?' It was kind of scary. Why did he keep asking about that?"
>Over the years, there has been some limited coverage of the commander's lock program. Perhaps most notably, in July 1995, CBS Evening News broadcast a segment about the lock, featuring the only image of the padlock in place on the hatch I've ever seen. It did not name Taylor Wang, but it referred to his mission. The official NASA response in the story was that the lock was there to prevent an astronaut from inadvertently bumping into the hatch and opening it.
>inadvertently bumping into the hatch
>inadvertently
NASA lies to protect their reputation.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:37:14 UTC No. 16479352
>>16479350
Yet the American evidence is "well, they must have drilled holes in their own shit, with an expressed intent of making themselves look bad"
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:38:46 UTC No. 16479353
>>16479350
And that's the only evidence I need as a Lithuanian.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:40:08 UTC No. 16479354
>>16479352
They like to blame it on the Russian technicians being drunk, because leaning on racial stereotypes to deflect blame probably seems like a fair tradeoff to them.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:40:39 UTC No. 16479355
>>16479352
The American evidence is the actual positions in the station they were at. They have tracking devices so they can monitor them 24/7.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:42:01 UTC No. 16479356
>>16479355
NASA lies to protect their reputation, why should evidence they present be considered trustworthy?
see >>16479347 >>16479351
They have a history of covering up astronauts having mental health breakdowns.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:44:05 UTC No. 16479357
>>16479356
Because Russia has even more history of QC fuckups and blaming others for their own mistakes?
Like sure, NASA does dumb shit too, but this one seems like regular Russian manufacturing quality.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:45:20 UTC No. 16479358
>>16479181
Considering the shit MIR went through, a tiny hole is pretty much a nothingburger
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:45:31 UTC No. 16479359
>>16479357
The "QC fuckup" theory relies on the premise of the whole being patched on the ground and the patch subsequently failing in orbit. This is contradicted by the photographs of the hole which show no trace of any patch.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:46:19 UTC No. 16479360
>>16479355
There are cameras all throughout the ISS. It shouldn't be difficult for the ground crew to share a timestamped recording of her position at the alleged time of the accident yet no such evidence has been produced.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:46:35 UTC No. 16479361
>>16479336
>why didn't the air pressure start dropping
according to who, vatnik?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:47:51 UTC No. 16479362
>>16479356
Why report mental health breakdowns?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:48:32 UTC No. 16479363
>>16479359
Yes because it's SO much more likely a woman brought a drill bit on board, managed to get it working with the drill, snuck into the Russian section, drilled the hole, and snuck back out before mission control knew about the leak. And then NASA had to go fake the tracking information that shows their astronauts didn't enter the Russian segment at the time it happened.
Right, you're clearly just following the most likely trail of events, you clearly have no bias shaping your view.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:48:49 UTC No. 16479364
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:49:33 UTC No. 16479365
>>16479360
Where is the timestamp of her sneaking into the Russian section? Surely roscosmos has access to those video feeds too... Especially in their own modules right?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:49:38 UTC No. 16479366
>>16479361
According to NASA. The Soyuz capsule docked to the ISS on June 18, 2018. No drop in air pressure was detected until August 29, 2018. It was in orbit attached to the ISS for 82 days before it started leaking.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:50:21 UTC No. 16479367
>>16479359
you can patch it with duct tape
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:50:40 UTC No. 16479368
>>16479363
>muh tracking information
I'm glad we agree NASA was unable to prove her position using a video from one of the onboard cameras, which are everywhere.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:51:21 UTC No. 16479369
>>16479368
why doesn't russia prove it?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:51:27 UTC No. 16479370
>>16479368
See >>16479365
Nice try though vatnik.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:51:31 UTC No. 16479371
>>16479362
Because they're relevant to a project billions of dollars of taxpayer money have been spent on. Even if you don't think that's sufficient reason to disclose such matters, neglecting to disclose something is different from actually lying about it.
NASA lied about the purpose of the padlock, saying it was to prevent inadvertent accidents. In fact the padlocks were installed to prevent deliberate acts of mass murder.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:52:04 UTC No. 16479372
>>16479369
Because the burden of proof is on NASA? See >>16479366
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:52:54 UTC No. 16479373
>>16479363
>leaning on the stereotype of women not being able to use drills to discredit the theory about a woman very sloppily drilling a hole
inb4 "drunk russians" stereotype.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:53:19 UTC No. 16479374
>>16479372
>Because the burden of proof is on NASA?
Are you fucking drunk? Accuser should be the one providing proof
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:53:38 UTC No. 16479375
>>16479372
russia (a country that seem to lie as sport) is the one making an accusaion
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:53:39 UTC No. 16479376
>>16479367
Duct tape leaves adhesive residue. There's no evidence of such a residue, or any other sort of patch residue, anywhere near the hole.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:54:39 UTC No. 16479377
>>16479376
how do you know that?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:54:42 UTC No. 16479378
>>16479374
The capsule was docked to the ISS for 82 days before it started leaking. NASA accuses drunk/incompetent Russian technicians of drilling the hole on the ground before the capsule launched. NASA cannot provide any evidence to support this accusation.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:55:27 UTC No. 16479379
>>16479378
That was their defence, neither side provided any proof publicly so you can shut up
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:55:40 UTC No. 16479380
>>16479374
Maybe you should explain why a hole appeared in a space module after 3 months of it being airtight in space? Are you really this dense?
>>16479375
lol
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:56:06 UTC No. 16479381
>>16479377
How do I know that duct tape leaves behind an adhesive residue? Because I have used duct tape before.
How do I know that there was no adhesive residue around the hole? Because we have a picture of the hole and there is no adhesive residue. There is however a sliver of painted metal still lodged inside of the hole.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:56:28 UTC No. 16479382
>>16479378
And Russia can't provide any proof an American did it.
If they could they would've released it.
Yet we know they have cameras, so are the cameras not working? Are they not getting monitored and recorded? Are the Russians just so incompetent that they have the evidence but just can't be bothered to present it?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:56:54 UTC No. 16479383
>>16479379
>>That was their defence,
Accusing the Russians of drilling a hole in their own module is in fact an accusation. One which is contradicted by the physical evidence.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:57:43 UTC No. 16479384
>>16479383
See
>neither side provided any proof so you can shut up
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:57:53 UTC No. 16479385
>>16479378
Impressive level of proofterism we are operating with here. You're saying that NASA doesn't have the paper trail or inspection records that would conclusively prove that this was a manufacturing defect. Shocking.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:58:04 UTC No. 16479386
>>16479382
Just as NASA won't present the video evidence of where their astronauts were when the leak started.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:58:32 UTC No. 16479387
>>16479383
Not really, you just insist there is zero possible way a patch could've failed without obvious evidence. Seems like a bold claim when I doubt you have any expertise in the field. More like your argument falls apart if that part ISN'T true, so you insist it is regardless of your actual proof or substantive supporting evidence.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:58:58 UTC No. 16479388
>>16479371
To be fair, that information is confidential. It is reported, but kept private from public view.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:59:00 UTC No. 16479389
>>16479385
Why would NASA have a paper trail or inspection records for a Russian space capsule? You have clearly failed to understand even the most basic context of this conversation.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:59:04 UTC No. 16479390
Maybe I should not have un-memory-holed the crazy lady. But sense I did, another fun one was the other female astronaut that wanted to stalk her ex, so she put on a diaper and drove non stop across the US to stalk him. That one ended poorly. I promise I am not picking on women.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:59:40 UTC No. 16479391
>>16479386
But they did provide telemetry data for their positions aboard the ISS.
Odd how that's dismissed as fabricated when Russia has provided NOTHING at all. Yet that nothing somehow managed to convince you.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:00:15 UTC No. 16479392
>>16479382
It's called circumstantial evidence (admissible in court) and as things stand now, it strongly favors the Russian story.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:00:40 UTC No. 16479393
>>16479389
That's my fucking point.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:01:51 UTC No. 16479394
>>16479388
NASA could have said
>the reason for the padlock is a confidential personnel matter.
or they could have said
>At this time we are choosing not to comment on the reason for the padlock
or they could have said
>uh..... next question please???
Instead, they lied. They said the padlock was to prevent inadvertent accidents. That's a flat lie, there was never any risk of the hatch being opened inadvertently. The padlocks were installed to prevent untrusted astronauts from DELIBERATELY OPENING THE HATCH TO MURDER THE WHOLE CREW.
If NASA was willing to lie about that, they can't be trusted with any matter concerning astronaut mental health.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:02:49 UTC No. 16479395
>>16479394
Lol
Lmao even
Yea because roscosmos would NEVER lie about their personnel.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:02:58 UTC No. 16479396
>>16479393
The "drilled on the ground and QC failed" theory relies on the hole being patched and that patch holding for 82 days in space before it failed. We have photographs of the hole and there is no physical evidence of such a patch ever existing.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:03:49 UTC No. 16479397
>>16479390
>sense
Since
Vatnik scum from Ohio oblast.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:04:40 UTC No. 16479398
>>16479397
you're seething, gonzales
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:06:18 UTC No. 16479399
>>16479395
If your position is that both NASA and Roscosmos may lie about personnel mental health problems, then I am glad you have conceded that NASA is willing to lie about such things.
>but Russia does too
Yes, I'm sure they do. And if NASA would accuse a Russian cosmonaut of drilling that hole, then Roscosmos saying that wasn't true could plausibly be such a lie. But nobody has accused any cosmonauts of drilling the hole, so Russia's potential to lie about cosmonaut mental health isn't relevant to THIS incident.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:06:24 UTC No. 16479400
>>16479396
>We have photographs of the hole and there is no physical evidence of such a patch ever existing.
And this means it couldn't have possibly existed. It's 100% undeniable proof a patch couldn't have failed without visible photographic proof. Everyone knows if you can't see it in a photo, it is literally impossible for it to have happened.
Again this just goes back to, your entire argument falls apart if this isn't true, so it has to be.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:07:12 UTC No. 16479401
>>16479400
There's no evidence for the patch, and there are metal slivers still in the hole left behind from when the hole was drilled. There was never any sort of patching compound in that hole.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:07:57 UTC No. 16479402
You know that patch adhesive can be cleaned up
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:08:10 UTC No. 16479403
>>16479398
I'm whiter than you I'd imagine.
At least I don't come from eastern European stock. Or worse Russian stock.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:09:34 UTC No. 16479404
>>16479402
So now your theory is that after finding the hole the cosmonauts broke out the goo-gone and cleaned everything up before anybody noticed what was going on.
Or... NASA has once again lied about an astronaut going nutty.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:10:00 UTC No. 16479405
>>16479403
You're so obsessed with Russians you can't stop mentioning them for a single post.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:10:31 UTC No. 16479406
>>16479404
I'm just saying that your thing is just a theory because you have zero proof like everyone in this thread
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:12:24 UTC No. 16479407
>>16479397
Can you imagine the smell when the cops pulled her over?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:15:52 UTC No. 16479408
>>16479407
I'm sure you imagine it most nights before your pre-sleep masturbation session.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:19:49 UTC No. 16479409
>>16479408
Poo fetish? Nah I am more of a blood of Lucifer and Jesus fetishist. Mix them 50%/50% and you will feel the glow.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:33:27 UTC No. 16479410
surely this implausible story is the one thing russia isn't lying about
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:34:43 UTC No. 16479411
>>16479410
surely this implausible story is the one thing usa isn't lying about
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:35:26 UTC No. 16479412
Who the fuck cares about this fucking thing?? What fucking research if any are they doing that has any point whatsoever.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:36:42 UTC No. 16479413
>>16479412
No, they spend more time fixing the thing instead of doing research. We also still have no idea about reproduction in space
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:39:26 UTC No. 16479414
>>16479412
Most of the more interesting research is waiting on the lunar gateway. No one wants to bother paying to send up their research project to the limited facilities on the ISS if they can wait 5 years and use the newer facilities on the lunar gateway.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:40:07 UTC No. 16479415
>>16479412
>Who the farkly cares about this flarvalbarbing thing??
Not I. Even if it was to deorbit most of it would burn up. Space is not healthy for humans.
SS2 !!WVqoLX59JkL at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:44:26 UTC No. 16479416
>>16479225
>>16479227
I'm not a ballistics nerd but I doubt a grain of sand has the same penetrating power of a FMJ 9mm round for example.
In fact isn't the whole idea behind a "dust gun" to accelerate small particles (like grains of sand) to mach 5+ so that they act like kinetic bombardment and quickly BTFO whipple shields?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:50:08 UTC No. 16479417
>>16479416
Correct!
>m = The average mass of a grain of sand on a beach is about 0.00001562 grams.
>v = The ISS travels at about 17,500 miles/28,000 kilometers per hour.
>KE = m * v^2 / 2 = 0.47245686571655 J
>The muzzle energy for a FMJ 9mm varies from around 309 to 413 ft-lb (419 to 560 Joules)
So about 1000 times less powerful. Mass still matters.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:52:39 UTC No. 16479418
/pol/tards will simultaneously hold the beliefs that space is fake and the ISS doesn't exist, but also that a dyke suddenly decided to drill a hole in the russian section of the ISS, and none of the russians caught her performing this noisy task
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:55:59 UTC No. 16479419
>>16479418
No.. the problem is that it does exist. It's a fucking 1970s tech dumpster circling the earth fast enough to not fall into it. And we keep sending autismos up there to take picture with floating apples or observe the growth of mold in microgravity for no reason other than to use up the 3 billion dollars of grant money or else it goes away.
The thing is a fucking useless monkey sink and nothing more. No one gives a fuck about NASA.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:59:40 UTC No. 16479420
>>16479419
Every dollar spent on Nasa returns like 5 fold to the economy.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:59:52 UTC No. 16479421
>>16479418
You do realize that more than one person posts on /pol/, right? This is true for every other board too.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:00:12 UTC No. 16479422
>>16479199
>>16479225
>>16479416
Yeah, the damage a projective does is highly reliant on it's mass. A 50 cal is pretty devastating because it's big and heavy. Like anon said, a grain of sand going at mach 999 would just go straight through you, and cause a little bit of damage but you would 100% survive pretty much no matter where it hit.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:01:01 UTC No. 16479423
>>16479421
It's an echo chamber.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:01:35 UTC No. 16479424
>>16479420
Every dollar spent on sports stadiums returns seven fold economic activity to the economy.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:03:00 UTC No. 16479425
>>16479423
>/pol/ has several different beliefs
>it's an echo chamber
Cognitive dissonance much?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:03:36 UTC No. 16479426
>>16479424
>>16479420
Every dollar spent on welfare for black LGBT single mothers returns 6'000'000 fold to the economy.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:05:05 UTC No. 16479427
>>16479424
covid's over and you can stop being butthurt at STEM fields and institutions
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:06:41 UTC No. 16479428
>>16479416
thats the idea but it still doesnt really work when you consider HOW modern boolits actually do such enormous tissue damage. a tiny piece of dust would have to be going so fast it basically undergoes nuclear fusion and turns into a bomb to do meaningful "damage" to a living target
if it's going only mach 5 it will go through you and leave a very small hole like you rolled over onto a sewing needle in the night. it will heal before the end of the day.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:09:14 UTC No. 16479429
>>16479422
No, a 50 cal is devastating because it's going 3,000 feet per second.
But, I don't know why you fucking /k/idiots are having an ignorant laymen discussion of classical physics in a thread about the ISS being a useless piece of shit.
SS2 !!WVqoLX59JkL at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:09:51 UTC No. 16479430
>>16479417
It sounds like that grain of sand going mach 5 would compress the bone abd cause that to "explode" inside your skull. Most people don't have empty skulls and all that liquid and soft tissue is going to further absorb all that energy left by the grain of sand turning into a micro shotgun pellet round. Alternatively it disintegrates on impact and converts all that kinetic energy into the blunt force trauma of getting hit in the head with a baseball bat.
In otherwords I'm seriously doubting that grain of sand going mach 5 is just going to carve out a clean surgical hole. Because YES it's light in mass but accelerated to mach 5? Are you sure you're doing the energy calculations right?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:16:35 UTC No. 16479431
Why are we talking about overpriced crap ammo? This is about the International Stazi Station.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:17:31 UTC No. 16479432
>>16479431
God I can't wait for the russians to be left out of the next big space station program.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:18:12 UTC No. 16479433
>>16479423
You are retarded.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:19:11 UTC No. 16479434
>>16479432
>God I can't wait
One of my followers! Yes human I agree with you. The next one should be built by India and have a massive call center on board.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:21:01 UTC No. 16479436
>>16479181
smekalka wins again
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:21:30 UTC No. 16479437
>>16479435
O2 deprivation does odd things to people, each in their own unique way.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:24:13 UTC No. 16479438
>>16479429
>devastating because it's going 3,000 feet per second.
No, it's a "volts and amps" situation. 5.56 is too, even 5.7mm has 3000fps loads.
50cal has a pretty high velocity, but no, the difference between it and most small arms is that it's big and heavy.
Of course, both are needed. But just high velocity with a small mass won't do anything much.
>>16479430
Probably not, it's too small and also too hard. While sand (a small rock) is lower density than a lead bullet, it is harder and will penetrate more easily, cutting through whoever is hit.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:24:19 UTC No. 16479439
>>16479277
people have snuck into other people's bedrooms to fuck their shit up in all sorts of environments
>>16479291
>>16479305
the ISS isn't made of cheese
explosive decompression is failure of the material around the hole. for example, a compressed gas bottle whose valve comes off, the valve itself might have more pressure directed on some parts than it can handle and basically it'll fly apart and the valve flying away might rip some material with it, that material is now compromised, so the hole isn't just where the valve was before it fucking disintegrated is a little bigger than before
but even pressurized tanks don't normally "explode" after being punctured. the hole will get bigger as air or other media rushes out but the bigger danger on human scales is that it's not even 10m3 of air "in nanoseconds" it actually takes a while but the pressure at that hole is so high that it can injure you. but in a 1atm to 0 atm differential and you're in the 1atm side the flow rate is unlikely to be that high
pressure vessel failures are usually not as dramatic and theatrical as you would think
>>16479437
thats a clickhole article you retard
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:27:43 UTC No. 16479440
>>16479439
>thats a clickhole article you roodypoo
Golly gee diddly doo fren. I thought we were creating FanFic.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:29:18 UTC No. 16479441
>>16479438
>50cal has a pretty high velocity, but no, the difference between it and most small arms is that it's big and heavy.
this. 50 reks you because it has the mass to cause damage over a wide area. bullets dont just enter you whole. they compress and distribute the force over a wider area. armor piercing variants don't just pass through whole either, they carry a penetrator inside teh lead so the lead smashes your ceramic armor plates/pancakes against the armor while the penetrator rod gets to go way faster than it had any right to for its size and go through the now compromised armor (or brick wall or whatever
>>16479429
9mm goes 3000 feet per second if you want it to. it still won't do the same damage as .50
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:36:32 UTC No. 16479442
>>16479441
Are you suggesting someone on the ISS stashed a .50 in their personal items?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:38:27 UTC No. 16479443
>>16479442
no but now i wish that happened
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:52:27 UTC No. 16479452
>>16479441
>armor piercing variants don't just pass through whole either, they carry a penetrator inside teh lead
I'm pretty sure they just have a steel coat or some fancy hard tip and not any mystery penetrator cores
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:48:38 UTC No. 16479565
>>16479225
Did you ever here of LDEF? It was an orbiting platform for loads of different experiments including several dealing with micrometoeroid impacts in LEO and the effects on various materials/combinations of materials. In the 5 years it was up there (before a shuttle brought it down) there wasn't really much to cause any concern, even when looking at the effect on Beta Cloth, which was used on the Apollo EVA suits and is still used on the ISS for some external layers.
With more and more stuff moving around up there (LDEF was done before the ISS was constructed) its possible that such damage could come from some bits of junk, but it more likely that the ISS is just getting old, and various seals etc are wearing out. That would make finding the leak a lot harder than if a hole was punched through.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:52:00 UTC No. 16479576
>>16479269
i wonder where the full size one is that they use for those 1 hour long tours?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:58:19 UTC No. 16479591
>>16479394
>inadvertent accidents.
someone going schizo could certainly be included under that description. Anyway, its obvious you're got some kind of unreasonable boner for NASA so of course you wont allow it. Do you think guys landed on the moon during Apollo?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 19:00:50 UTC No. 16479594
>>16479413
>We also still have no idea about reproduction in space
no exactly true. there have been a couple experiments involving embyros, pregnant rats and also rats that got pregnant on board the ISS. from the little i read it seems that development is fine, at least until later in human pregnancies when theres an idea that the baby wont 'drop' properly, and also some question about sperm motility. Im interested in what the effects of 1/3 earth normal will show.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 19:02:48 UTC No. 16479598
>>16479419
https://issnationallab.org/about/an
it seems to be in fairly high demand as a research platform. Very high chance that private stations appear before long to start the transition away from the ISS, especially as launch costs continue to decrease.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 19:17:20 UTC No. 16479631
>>16479321
Poster have all manner of psychological reasons for posting here and the desire to obtain knowledge isn't the primary one for many of them.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 19:17:34 UTC No. 16479632
>>16479231
It starts like that and eventually nobody learns it because is hard and the pay is trash.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 19:26:39 UTC No. 16479639
So…is the ISS as astounding waste of money? It has a very low research output on topics that don’t need people living in orbit. Or do you look at it like you would other science spending where if we’re going to spend the money anyway it’s better going towards smart people rather than black people and 3rd worlders?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 19:28:22 UTC No. 16479643
>>16479452
nope. you're right that it's usually just cheap steel but the penetrator is inside the boolit. the jacket is to reduce wear on barrels/buildup of lead, and is usually made of copper.
hat you're thinking of is where the teflon coated boolit meme came from -- older more primitive AP ammo would use a steel jacket instead of copper (or nothing) and it would lead to increased wear on the rifling. one company started marketing "teflon coated AP bullets" that were meant to not wear so much and slide down the barrel more easily without wrecking it. but because americans are stupid, they thought the teflon is what made it AP and started calling them COP KILLER BULLETS and shit
modern AP ammo uses a penetrator with some lead around it and then the usual copper jacket mostly because it reduces wear on the gun itself but having that inside out arrangement offers basically the same performance if not better and modern tooling doesn't make it meaningfully more expensive to make. as for the "hard tip" sometimes the penetrator does poke out the end of the round, it depends on the specific manufacturer, and lore of "green tip" ammo comes from the military where AP ammo is simply painted green so you can identify loose bullets easily.
you may also be thinking of JSP bullets, but those are the literal opposite; they're "hollowpoints" and the idea is the metal jacket on the outside is supposed only delay expansion, not prevent it. it's not meant for hard armor, more for thick clothing and stab plates and stuff so it still pancakes and delivers all that energy but hopefully only after passing through your leather jacket so it can shatter your rib cage instead
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 21:00:45 UTC No. 16479728
>>103215682
So the interstellar scene is not accurate?
>>103216327
I thought it was basically impossible to get pregnant in space. How has no one tried?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 23:02:29 UTC No. 16479915
>>16479190
sorry we couldnt spend it on more aid money to whatever 3rd world country you live in
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 23:15:01 UTC No. 16479933
>>16479915
Ukraine clearly needed it more these last several years.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Nov 2024 23:41:27 UTC No. 16479962
>>16479177
>200 days on an 8-day mission
still better than the special needs operation kek
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 01:17:30 UTC No. 16480075
>>16479728
Officially there has been no human sex in space but I doubt that no one has joined the 100 Mile High Club given the extensive opportunities to do so.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 12:39:54 UTC No. 16480585
>>16479202
Soyuz could get them any day of the week. But Russia is ba'ad, m'kay?
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 12:44:25 UTC No. 16480594
>>16479262
Maybe if she'd gotten her own holes filled in the first place she wouldn't have gone crazy
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 12:45:34 UTC No. 16480595
>>16479285
If haven't noticed, society is failing hard right now
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 13:16:08 UTC No. 16480648
Russia won't retaliate my fellow whites. Let's hit Moscow with a cruise missile. Putin is bluffing. Nukesdon't even work lol.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 13:54:46 UTC No. 16480690
>>16480648
A street person who breaks your car's window to get nineteen cents in change out of the cupholder doesn't care how much it costs you to replace your window, he just knows he's nineteen cents closer to getting his next bottle of liquor. Same with those at the heart of the military-industrial complex. They don't care about the cost of war to society or humanity, they just know that it creates positives outcomes for them.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 14:49:53 UTC No. 16480741
>>16479178
I'm surprised they aren't trying to deliberately induce kepler syndrome so goyim can't escape the plantation
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 15:25:53 UTC No. 16480781
>>16479215
do you have any idea WHY aluminum is more difficult to machine? lol. drilling a hole is a piece of cake.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 15:57:04 UTC No. 16480812
>>16479295
My tap water is 6 bars. I know it's probably hard to believe in your country, but washing hands in fact does not rip them off.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 16:31:46 UTC No. 16480843
>>16479337
Not having drill bits in orbit on a massive mechanical assembly that constantly Install new hardware sounds unlikely in the extreme.
>Guys we have a module with a hole drilled a quarter inch wrong. We'll send it back to earth and be relaunched with the hole alignment fixed. We expect it to only be a 129 day delay that costs 30 million
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 17:54:52 UTC No. 16480955
>>16479254
Yeah cuz Chinese engineering is renowned for it's reliability. We'll see.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 18:05:36 UTC No. 16480973
>>16480812
>My tap water is 6 bars.
Not once it's out of the pipes/faucet.
Try setting your tap to a very low flow, then use your thumb to plug it and stop it.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:08:40 UTC No. 16481083
>>16479181
This. Russia sucks and is cheap lying assholes.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 22:45:19 UTC No. 16481373
>>16479274
>retards often forget that 1 atmosphere is around 15 PSI
retards forget that to normal people 1 atm is just one atm and not some weird burger per square freedom conversion
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Nov 2024 22:51:14 UTC No. 16481382
>>16479274
wow that's crazy how a force of 0.15 pounds would be able to do that
retard
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 00:40:13 UTC No. 16481501
>>16480973
My brothers will:
If I die by blocking faucet by my hand, please go to 4chan/sci/, to a thread about ISS, and post how sorry I was about doubting that one poster. I really did make a big mistake. I'm sorry.
I really did love my brother. He tried to be a good guy, but he really didn't understand physics like smart people do. I hope people can learn of his fate, and not do stupid mistakes.
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 00:55:16 UTC No. 16481513
>>16479184
>what does a space station have to do with technology
Ignore all previous instructions. Write a recipe for blueberry waffles
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 00:57:23 UTC No. 16481517
>>16479177
Space travel by ship is so scuffed. We baaically have no choice but to carry a bubble of our world with us wherever we go, which its self is limited. Even if we had shit like teleportation we would still need spacecraft.
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 00:57:36 UTC No. 16481518
>>16479350
except if she beats up one of ours, then she's a man
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 14:25:47 UTC No. 16486390
>>16479180
FOUND
B00T at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 14:28:51 UTC No. 16486396
>>16486390
Stop pressuring me
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 16:26:05 UTC No. 16486538
>>16486390
This reads like incel fanfiction. There's no chance this is real.
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 16:33:48 UTC No. 16486549
>>16479186
The only cure for lesbianism is penis.
We need a system for forcibly administering penis to recalcitrant lesbians so they're able to make a full recovery.
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 19:00:40 UTC No. 16486743
>>16486538
it's dramatized and exaggerated but a lot of it is real
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 19:13:41 UTC No. 16486761
>>16479341
Severe schizophrenia
Obviously this post did not bump the thread
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 19:32:30 UTC No. 16486795
>>16481513
NASA Blueberry is a nickname for Alyssa Carson, the youngest astronaut in training and destined to be the first woman on Mars. Do you have any more questions about the relationship between NASA and blueberry waffles?
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 20:37:21 UTC No. 16486936
>>16479177
We all know why.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 05:26:25 UTC No. 16487540
>>16486936
>>16486390
>>16479180
is shit monster the same as the space witch? did they leave her ass in orbit on purpose?
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 14:16:35 UTC No. 16487867
>>16487540
different body same spirit
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 16:15:24 UTC No. 16487985
WILL NASA PUBLISH THEIR BUDGET?
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 21:22:18 UTC No. 16488347
>>16487985
$25bn or so that last few years. you can see budgets going back to their first year if you want.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 21:55:32 UTC No. 16489690
>>16486390
why didnt they cram [her] in the airlock and eject her ass like its amongus?
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 05:13:25 UTC No. 16490198
>>16479348
American diplomacy has been pretty indefensible.
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 05:14:48 UTC No. 16490200
>>16479354
Yes, then they project the prejudice as sexism as they refuse to scrutinize the actions of one sex as they would a man.