🧵 Cerutti mastodon site
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 01:04:52 UTC No. 16481526
There's only 5 explanations for the broken bones at the Cerutti mastodon site:
>Carnivores breaking them
No carnivore in the environment was powerful enough to break a mastodon femur mid-shaft, and the patterns of breakage are consistent with percussion, not gnawing.
>Animals trampling them
Trampling from animals leaves a certain pattern which is absent from the site, plus a majority of the weaker bones aren't broken.
>A flood breaking them
Given that there's no size, shape, or density separation of the bones and rocks, this precludes flooding being involved (small teeth that should be washed down stream a mile away are right next to entire tusks and heavy boulders). It also wouldn't make sense for a flood powerful enough to shatter rocks and break mastodon femurs to not also break the weaker bones.
>Construction breaking them
This can't be for a few reasons, mainly because the bones were encased in a layer of unbroken pedogenic carbonate (If a machine broke the bones it would also break the pedogenic carbonate), and because shards of the bones were found far away from the bones themselves (which would be impossible for the shards to travel that far underground).
Is there anything I'm missing? Doesn't this leave hominins as the only option, thus indisputably proving they were in the Americas at least 130K years ago?
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 01:29:20 UTC No. 16481555
>>16481526
they probably just fell from a cliff.
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 21:32:11 UTC No. 16483416
bump
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 21:49:07 UTC No. 16483646
https://www.nature.com/articles/nat
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 22:19:15 UTC No. 16484258
>>16481526
>Is there anything I'm missing? Doesn't this leave hominins as the only option, thus indisputably proving they were in the Americas at least 130K years ago?
It’s fairly likely, but it’d need more evidence. Most people generally agree that it’s not unlikely to be a human kill site
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 22:37:12 UTC No. 16484508
>>16484258
>It’s fairly likely, but it’d need more evidence
Why though? There's literally no other explanation for how the bones were broken.
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 22:39:43 UTC No. 16484548
>>16484508
Not having any other explanation doesn’t necessarily mean no more evidence is needed. Some other factor could have been involved that was overlooked. It seems pretty likely that it was hominins but we can’t say that for certain yet
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 23:42:54 UTC No. 16485329
>>16481526
it was bigfoot. case closed
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 00:12:19 UTC No. 16487234
>>16483646
>These findings confirm the presence of an unidentified species of Homo at the CM site during the last interglacial period (MIS 5e; early late Pleistocene), indicating that humans with manual dexterity and the experiential knowledge to use hammerstones and anvils processed mastodon limb bones for marrow extraction and/or raw material for tool production.
So its confirmed that humans were in the Americas over 100,000 years before asians supposedly crossed the Bering land bridge.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 02:30:23 UTC No. 16487407
>>16487234
They still would’ve had to cross the land bridge to get there whether or not more people crossed over later though
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 04:59:43 UTC No. 16487520
>>16487407
Whites used boats to cross the ocean to America
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 04:03:49 UTC No. 16488799
>>16481526
If the 'out of Africa' theory is real then how were there people butchering mastodons in western North America 65000 years before the 'out of Africa' period supposedly took place? Did they use time travel or something?
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 04:15:44 UTC No. 16488807
>>16487520
And how much later was that
>>16488799
Because the Cerutti mastodon is so old that it might not have even been Homo sapiens who killed it
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 18:45:09 UTC No. 16489436
>>16488799
It probably wasn't Homo Sapiens. Homo Erectus had made it to East Asia over a million years ago, so there's no reason to think they couldn't keep going and cross over to the Americas.
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 20:02:58 UTC No. 16489534
>>16489436
So you're saying Homo Erectus crossed the oceans, made it to the Americas and then left no fossil evidence whatsoever even though there are fossils of it all over African, Europe & Asia
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 20:55:00 UTC No. 16489627
>>16489534
>So you're saying Homo Erectus crossed the oceans
Maybe, or they could've just walked over Beringia.
>and then left no fossil evidence whatsoever
No, they just haven't been discovered yet. Archeologists aren't searching for sites in Pleistocene strata. The CM site was discovered by paleontologists.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 21:17:38 UTC No. 16489653
>>16489534
Hey we only found out about Denisovans in 2010 and now we find them all over the place. It’s entirely possible
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 23:06:09 UTC No. 16490966
>>16489534
You can't look for human fossils in the Americas because thats 'disturbing a sacred indian burial ground'
If you discover one you'd get arrested.
So the bering land bridge theory is enforced by law, discovering evidence that calls it into question lands you in jail.
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 23:21:20 UTC No. 16490980
>>16481526
Platigage
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 23:44:11 UTC No. 16491010
>>16487407
>>16487520
You can get almost anywhere, kayaking through knee deep waters for most of the way. Why can’t all hypotheses be feasible?
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 00:58:00 UTC No. 16492199
>>16487407
>ppl crossed a land bridge during the middle of a ice age when it would have been beneath a miles thick polar ice sheet and even more ridiculously cold there than it is today
this is one of science's stupidest theories
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 21:18:00 UTC No. 16493289
>>16492199
Its more reasonable to think that they crossed from Europe or Asia to North America via the Arctic Ocean polar route on the ice than it is to think they climbed over massive mountains of ice age continental ice sheets.
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 22:25:31 UTC No. 16493388
>>16492199
People already live in the Arctic genius
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 26 Nov 2024 22:29:33 UTC No. 16494575
>>16481526
Everything that academia tells us about this history of humanity in North America is a lie, they will find an excuse to bury this find same as they did with Kennewick man
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 01:58:14 UTC No. 16495751
>>16494575
The Kennewick man coverup was a real disaster for science.
Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 21:24:48 UTC No. 16496544
>>16495751
this, anthropology is essentially illegal i north america these days because any finds are immediately confiscated as 'muh sacred indian burial ground'
they clearly have something they're desperately trying to hide and they're using the indians as an excuse.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Nov 2024 18:48:50 UTC No. 16497410
>>16481526
>There's only 5 explanations for the broken bones at the Cerutti mastodon site
You forgot one quite possible explanation: hoax
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:26:58 UTC No. 16498404
>>16497410
>t. paranoid conspiracy theorist
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Nov 2024 21:11:39 UTC No. 16498564
>>16496544
Where to read more on this topic?
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 2 Dec 2024 03:33:28 UTC No. 16499833
>>16481526
There have been stone tools discovered on the USA east coast that are characteristically similar to European tools of similar era and which predate the presumed Bering land bridge crossing.
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Dec 2024 04:30:44 UTC No. 16499878
>>16499833
politically inconvenient findings
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 3 Dec 2024 05:09:51 UTC No. 16500937
>>16499878
Thats what happens when politicians are the ones who fund all the science, the science ends up reflecting the desires of the politicians rather than anything else
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Dec 2024 02:18:59 UTC No. 16501733
>>16497410
It got hit by a meteorite
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 5 Dec 2024 05:08:21 UTC No. 16503253
>>16481526
>a majority of the weaker bones aren't broken.
I wonder why they only wanted to bust up the big ones
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 6 Dec 2024 03:57:45 UTC No. 16504501
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Dec 2024 04:49:40 UTC No. 16505527
>>16481526
Dark matter broke them
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Dec 2024 04:55:16 UTC No. 16506410
>>16481526
Imagine killing one of those things and then having all the meat to eat and having an enormous fur hide to wrap yourself up in. seems comfy af, I wish I lived in the caveman days.
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Dec 2024 07:43:21 UTC No. 16506489
>>16481526
Or maybe it was another mastodon who smashed his shit in, you overcomplicating retard
Anonymous at Sun, 8 Dec 2024 18:11:18 UTC No. 16506910
>>16506489
Refer to the "Animals trampling them" section