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Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 20:29:31 UTC No. 16486919
What kind of science is this?
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 20:54:02 UTC No. 16486955
http://archive.today/2024.11.20-204
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/slay
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 20:58:13 UTC No. 16486964
>antivaxx retards use the word "vaccine" incorrectly
Anonymous at Wed, 20 Nov 2024 20:59:22 UTC No. 16486966
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 01:29:04 UTC No. 16487332
>>16486919
They know the truth.. every cow is potential lethal flame thrower!
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 05:26:00 UTC No. 16487539
>>16486919
>slaynews
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 05:50:06 UTC No. 16487553
>>16486964
provaxx retards opened that can of worms when they started calling gene therapy a vaccine
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 07:05:41 UTC No. 16487601
>>16486919
>>16486955
>Bezos, the founder of online retail giant Amazon, is investing $9.4 million to develop a “climate vaccine.” The “vaccine” is designed to reduce the number of methane-producing microbes in a cow’s stomach, Agriland reported.
>No such “vaccine” currently exists, despite scientists sporadically researching the use of vaccinations to reduce methane for over four decades. The project’s first goal is to show that such a vaccine is possible.
>“So one is to vaccinate the cows in a way that their gut bacteria that emit the methane, which is also called natural gas or CH4, which is the second most important greenhouse gas, you can vaccinate them and that species of bacteria isn’t there,” Gates said.
Wow, it's fucking nothing.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 07:16:18 UTC No. 16487606
>>16487601
>give cows chrons disease
>evolve inferior methanogens
>now they make even more climate gas
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 07:22:35 UTC No. 16487611
>>16486919
Geoimmunology.
>real field now, amrite?
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 10:17:36 UTC No. 16487694
>>16487332
I think that image is best used without context
B00T at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 10:21:39 UTC No. 16487697
>>16487694
Fag
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 10:37:06 UTC No. 16487715
>>16486919
>What kind of science is this?
Pseudo
B00T at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 10:43:51 UTC No. 16487719
Left science. Run by Kamala and Biden voters in attack against white sovereignty.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 10:50:15 UTC No. 16487723
>>16486919
The kind of science that can only be fixed with guillotines
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 10:52:31 UTC No. 16487726
>>16487601
>It's not our thousands of large trucks and factories pumping shit into the atmosphere 24/7 all year round, it's the cows!!
These "people" need to be rounded up and set on fire
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 12:58:51 UTC No. 16487796
>>16486919
Bill Gates is a eugenicist.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:28:27 UTC No. 16487945
>>16486955
ah yes, slaynews, very reputable news source and totally not a deranged conspiratard site.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:46:31 UTC No. 16487953
>>16486919
Stop scaring yourself.
>>16487601
>The “vaccine” is designed to reduce the number of methane-producing microbes in a cow’s stomach, Agriland reported.
>No such “vaccine” currently exists
Just supplement their feed with 2% biochar by weight instead of fucking with gut flora. It cuts methane emissions by around 20% and reduces nitrous oxide emissions from their manure while reducing the odor. In my opinion it should be mandated for all livestock.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:53:47 UTC No. 16487963
>>16487553
YOU STUPID FUCKING MONGREL, GENES ARE DNA, mRNA DOES NOT ALTER YOUR FUCKING GENES
YOU STUPID FUCK
YOU STUPID FUCK
YOU STUPID FUCK
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:54:55 UTC No. 16487967
>>16487601
it's basically probiotics for cows, has nothing to do with vaccines lol wtf
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 16:02:43 UTC No. 16487972
>>16487967
Conservative news very rarely has anything to do with the headlines they choose. It's all fear mongering
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 16:45:46 UTC No. 16488016
>>16487963
What does that have to do with vaccines?
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 16:51:04 UTC No. 16488021
>Climate vaccine developer ArkeaBio has raised $26.5 million in Series A funding, the company announced last week. ArkeaBio aims to fight climate change by vaccinating livestock. A vaccine being developed by the company is designed to prevent animals from releasing methane emissions. Once vaccinated with the AkreaBio shot, an animal’s immune system is supposed to create antibodies that will target methane-producing microbes. The Boston-based startup secured its first major investment in late 2022 from Breakthrough Energy Ventures, an investment fund founded by billionaire Bill Gates. “Our vaccination-based approach allows for much-needed decarbonization of global meat and dairy products across multiple geographies, supporting greater sustainability in agriculture,” the company explains on its website.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/arke
It's worth noting the Bill Gates didn't call it a vaccine but the company he invested in does call it that.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 16:58:52 UTC No. 16488036
>>16488021
That's stupid. Just modify their feed.
>>16487953
I bet their product will be less effective than biochar.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 19:02:02 UTC No. 16488175
>>16488036
Might be less effective but if there's government mandate to use it, it makes the company very wealthy. Biochar or seaweed can't really make anyone rich.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 20:39:54 UTC No. 16488299
>>16487963
This. Dumb faggots.
In fact there is plenty to criticise about the covid vaccines such as unlawful and socially divisive mandates, lack of testing, possible (but unproven) safety concerns, underwhelming effectiveness, using them as an excuse to sweep covid under the rug and avoid other safety measures such as air quality improvement, and of course profiteering. Retards parroting MUH GENE THERAPY etc etc etc are controlled opposition.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 20:41:47 UTC No. 16488304
You will eat da bugs
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 21:20:45 UTC No. 16488345
>>16488299
No. The definition of vaccine had to be changed to cover the mRNA therapy. No amount of spin you create will ever change that simple fact.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 21:31:01 UTC No. 16488360
>>16488345
I didn't even mention the definition thing. I don't particularly care about it, but I agree it would more accurately be called a prophylactic.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 21:34:42 UTC No. 16488366
>>16488175
Fuck that. Put a government mandate on charcoal in livestock feed and you'll benefit the US forestry service and the entire wood industry. You can do pet feed too while we're at it. They're probably mutually exclusive strategies since one is probiotic and the other attempts to kill off specific gut flora.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 22:06:46 UTC No. 16488393
>>16486966
You're the one making the political post, pigshit for brains. You don't get to make political posts then tell other people to go to the politics board.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 00:28:11 UTC No. 16488574
>>16487601
Make it harder for microbes to digest the goyslop. What could possibly go wrong?
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 00:55:57 UTC No. 16488601
>>16487963
>YOU STUPID FUCK
Sure and a Mistletoe therapy doesn't alter your mistle and baby oil is made out of what?
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 01:00:53 UTC No. 16488602
>>16486919
>slaynews
>aislop image (and probably text, not like I'd read it)
agitprop used to be better
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 01:03:33 UTC No. 16488608
>>16488601
mistletoe therapy doesn't alter any part of you because it' doesn't do anything.
What's your point?
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 01:35:58 UTC No. 16488652
>>16488608
>What's your point?
/sci moment, where are all the good ones gone?
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 02:23:03 UTC No. 16488681
>climate change
>vaccines
this just comes off as a buzzword combo to stay in peoples minds.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 02:30:17 UTC No. 16488689
>>16487963
Imagine being this retarded almost five years later.
Read a book faggot.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 02:31:29 UTC No. 16488690
>>16488689
he isn't wrong. mrna can't alter genes. why are you trying to gaslight? /sci/ used to be better than this.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 02:40:35 UTC No. 16488695
>>16488690
Actual retard take. Why do you insist on appeal to poorly remembered high school biology?
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 02:46:52 UTC No. 16488703
>>16488695
it's not even a take. you can validate one or the other with a google search. this is what i mean by /sci/ being so dumbed down lately. if you're gonna troll, put in the effort to make it believable. it used to be an art. now you've made it into something less. tragic.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 02:49:53 UTC No. 16488706
>>16488703
Having been confronted with the absurdity of appeal to textbook, your next is google?
ngmi
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 02:52:37 UTC No. 16488710
>>16488706
except google provides you access to a textbook pdf when looking up information whenever possible. you just have to phrase your search entry well enough to clarify you want a pdf file as a result. either way you're citing a textbook instead of a paper, which is silly. textbooks aren't vetted half as hard as a published paper.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 02:54:28 UTC No. 16488714
>>16488710
You are too stupid to be in this conversation.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 02:58:52 UTC No. 16488721
>>16488714
and you're too weak at trolling to pretend there ever was a conversation. this is merely a grandstanding to show you're ineptitude with the use of both a computer and your mind. the fact you thought otherwise speaks volumes for your feeble minded attempts at stating you could make a coherent point.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 03:13:39 UTC No. 16488739
>>16488721
>appeal to textbook
>appeal to google
>appeal to googles appeal to textbook
You have nothing. Meanwhile, Moderna calls the products they developed gene therapy. The FDA classifies them as gene therapy. There is evidence that they can influence DNA.
You are a moron.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 03:32:56 UTC No. 16488764
>>16488739
>>16488714
>>16488706
>>16488695
>>16488689
mRNA can't alter genes, retard. Cite your source or fuck off.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 03:51:50 UTC No. 16488789
>>16488764
Nope. You do your homework. Get out of the front page of google and your dusty memory of biology.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 05:18:44 UTC No. 16488850
>>16488789
You are making the extraordinary claim. Burden of proof is on you. You will never post a source because you know you're wrong so I'll end this here.
https://detroitmi.gov/node/36781
>mRNA stands for messenger ribonucleic acid and can most easily be described as instructions for how to make a protein or even just a piece of a protein. mRNA is not able to alter or modify a person's genetic makeup (DNA).
https://www.fnha.ca/about/news-and-
>The actual mRNA content never enters your cells where your DNA is located. That is why it is impossible to alter your DNA with mRNA vaccines.
https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/y
>No, the vaccines cannot change your DNA.
https://hcrl.wustl.edu/claims-that-
>Despite being unsupported by research, claims about COVID-19 mRNA vaccines interfering with human DNA continue to circulate.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/
>In order to enter human cell nuclei, any such residual viral DNA would first have to enter the cell’s main compartment, or cytoplasm, which normally keeps foreign DNA out. Next it would have to cross the nuclear membrane; this would be impossible without an access signal, which these fragments don’t have, Offit notes. The residual DNA would also have to integrate into the nuclear DNA, which would require DNA-cutting enzymes that aren’t present in the mRNA vaccine. The chances that mRNA vaccination would in any way affect your DNA “are zero,” Offit says.
https://www.cdc.gov/covid/vaccines/
>The genetic material delivered by mRNA vaccines never enters the nucleus of your cells, which is where your DNA is kept, so the vaccine does not alter your DNA.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 05:27:19 UTC No. 16488854
>>16488789
>>16488850
https://www.genome.gov/about-genomi
>No. There is no risk of an mRNA vaccine changing your DNA because mRNA does not have the ability to alter DNA. Your cells constantly make their own mRNA. The synthetic mRNA in the vaccine acts like any other mRNA that your cells make.
https://www.unicef.org/montenegro/e
>“Injecting RNA into someone does nothing to human cell DNA,” says Professor Jeffrey Alond of Oxford University. It works by instructing the body to produce a protein found on the surface of the corona virus. The immune system then learns how to recognize and produce antibodies against that protein.”
https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/w
>However, mRNA isn’t the same as DNA, and it can’t combine with our DNA to change our genetic code. It is also relatively fragile, and will only hang around inside a cell for about 72 hours, before being degraded.
https://www.mskcc.org/coronavirus/m
>None of the vaccines interact with or alter your DNA in any way, and therefore cannot cause cancer. MRNA is not the same as DNA and cannot be combined with DNA to change your genetic code.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 05:28:20 UTC No. 16488855
>>16488789
>>16488850
>>16488854
That's the first ten results off of google. As a bonus let me post an excerpt from a biology textbook.
https://openstax.org/books/biology-
>The flow of genetic information in cells from DNA to mRNA to protein is described by the central dogma (Figure 15.3), which states that genes specify the sequence of mRNAs, which in turn specify the sequence of amino acids making up all proteins. The decoding of one molecule to another is performed by specific proteins and RNAs. Because the information stored in DNA is so central to cellular function, it makes intuitive sense that the cell would make mRNA copies of this information for protein synthesis, while keeping the DNA itself intact and protected.
I eagerly await your tantrum and the distinct lack of source in your next post.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 05:40:44 UTC No. 16488859
>>16487726
Not even automobile and factory emissions have a causal link. (Well, ignoring China.)
You'd need a comprehensive study on a few things, such as trees across the world and what we've done to them over the past few centuries, to even come close to having a meaningful understanding.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 05:43:01 UTC No. 16488860
>>16488855
>>16488854
>>16488850
Now you literally post google links and a textbook lmfao. You aren't winning any points here buck-o. For all this appeal to google, it is quite surprising that you can't make an effective search.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 06:14:45 UTC No. 16488872
>>16488690
Except RNA is genetic material, by definition, it is entirely essential for DNA to communicate and express itself, DNA can't function without RNA and some organisms only have RNA, they don't even need DNA for their genetic profile.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 06:24:56 UTC No. 16488875
>>16488860
>>16488872
>I eagerly await your tantrum and the distinct lack of source in your next post.
You did not disappoint. Post a source for your claims or fuck off.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 06:26:37 UTC No. 16488878
>>16488764
The entire purpose of mRNA is the alter genetic expression, though, viruses and bacteria definitely use RNA to send genetic messages that result in systemic changes to an organism and some of them don't even have DNA, they only use RNA as their own genetic material.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 06:29:02 UTC No. 16488879
>>16488875
Its basic information about RNA that can be found even on Wikipedia if you just look up RNA instead of searching specifically for "RNA can't alter DNA" and only finding things that validate that assumption without taking into account that RNA alters DNA expression rather than the DNA itself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 06:34:15 UTC No. 16488881
>>16488875
How exactly do you explain the fact that people's own bodies are producing entirely new cells and proteins if their genetics haven't been altered by the mRNA genetic therapies?
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 06:43:07 UTC No. 16488888
>>16488850
>>16488854
Even your own links call all the mRNA content "genetic information" so its definition genetic therapy by the standard of your own links.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 06:46:37 UTC No. 16488890
>>16488875
I am giving you the rope to hang, but it seems like you are done playing. So, first things first.
What was the topic we were discussing?
Are the mRNA drugs gene therapy? My point was that they are. And you were saying they aren't. But then you posted a direct quote where CDC describes the material delivered as genetic material.
>>16488850
>The genetic material delivered by mRNA vaccines never enters the nucleus of your cells, which is where your DNA is kept, so the vaccine does not alter your DNA.
So genetic material isn't just DNA by your own sources. So this higher burden of proof is completely irrelevant to the topic, mRNA drugs is gene therapy, by your own evidence, ; however, because you are such a fucking moron, I will oblige the DNA argument.
Reverse transcription is the name of the process where mRNA can be converted to DNA. Funny enough, this shits on the very same CDC source, unsurprisingly, because you are drinking from the shit trough.
Furthermore, this says nothing of plasmids and other process contaminants within the drugs themselves, active or otherwise. Furthermore, we are ignoring body responses which are necessarily at a genetic level.
Lastly, your claim was definitely that mRNA can't alter genes. The ONLY ACCEPTABLE EVIDENCE OF THIS WILL BE TRIALS WHICH YOU DIDN'T LINK AT ALL YOU FUCKING IDIOT.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 06:57:26 UTC No. 16488899
>>16487963
>GENES ARE DNA
I remember fifth grade biology.
Too bad "genes are dna" is a retarded lie to children to make the concept of genetics easier to digest since genes actually means instructions for cells to express and copy themselves which includes DNA, RNA and a whole complex host of other molecules and interactions.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 09:03:02 UTC No. 16488956
>>16488899
conflating genes with genetics because you're an ESL illiterate dumbass isn't an argument. try again.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 09:22:56 UTC No. 16488963
>>16488956
Genetics effect gene expression, messing with genetics does affect the way your genes express themselves which is why all your links called RNA genetic information and refers to modifying DNA rather than modifying genes. You are the one with no technical know how who is conflating gene therapy with something that permanently modifies DNA when that isn't what gene therapy means, it means therapies that alter your genetic expression or changes your biological properties at a cellular level.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 09:26:32 UTC No. 16488964
>>16488956
Even if you aren't just nitpicking and it actually is a genetic therapy instead of gene therapy, calling a genetic therapy a vaccine is still a massive misuse of the original definition of the word vaccine.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 14:29:43 UTC No. 16489161
>>16488878
>>16488881
>>16488888
>>16488890
>>16488899
>>16488964
>I eagerly await your tantrum and the distinct lack of source in your next post.
You did not disappoint. Post a source for your claims or fuck off.
>>16488963
>>16488879
Neither of these pages corroborate your claims. Try again or fuck off.
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 03:21:35 UTC No. 16490138
>>16489161
Your own source supported my claims. You have been defeated. Do not show your face here for another three days.
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 23:32:33 UTC No. 16490993
>>16489161
They contribute. Don’t try your tricks around here.
Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 00:41:28 UTC No. 16491063
>>16486919
eugenics
Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 00:43:18 UTC No. 16491064
>>16486966
all that had to be said.