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Schwarzenegger at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 07:19:54 UTC No. 16487609
Why are there so many different races? It just seems strange to me, what caused there to be so much variation, and it begs me to question why there are even so many of us in the first place?
Does this ever make you feel bad? There are many races out there who might never be fairly represented or adequately treated or very prosperous. Not necessarily because they are somehow 'inferior' but due to long stemming ingrained racism.
I find it doubtful that all our differences are really caused by simply 'weather adaptations' too.
I thought there would be some common links connecting most humans together, I just find that there are many differences.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 07:24:25 UTC No. 16487612
>why there are so many humanoid species
because diversity is our strength?
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 07:26:57 UTC No. 16487616
>>16487609
Races aren't a scientific concept. There are only "so many different races" because people decided to arbitrarily categorize other people by geographic origin
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 07:27:58 UTC No. 16487619
>>16487609
imagine a world where everyone looks the same (don't say asia or something)
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 07:29:52 UTC No. 16487620
>>16487616
Good thing species are a scientific concept and we can find speciation even in close proximity, such as the finches that have different beaks and eat different things and at this point are different birds despite looking identical to the less astute.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 09:10:12 UTC No. 16487663
>>16487609
>why are races different
>i insist that they are also not different and disparities are all racism
why did evolution stop at the neck?
p.s. the Chinese are so conformist because they've had about 5000 years of totalitarian governments that execute (and thus breed out) people who don't bow to the emperor low enough
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 09:23:21 UTC No. 16487671
Racism has been proven to be idiotic because when a group of whites, or blacks or of any other race get isolated, they divide themselves into fake races and start calling each other inferior subhumans.
Most notable is the english dehumanization of the irish, or the hutu-tutsi genocide (i forgot whom of those were the bad) or similarly the japanese racial supremacism over other east asians, and i mean north east asians, not SEA
Its clearly a social construct, people believe anything.
And look at israelis, they are not even a race but still believe they are a master race, they have ethiopians, moroccans, poles and their mutts collectively claiming to be the same race and superior to the arab "mutts"
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 09:24:04 UTC No. 16487672
>>16487616
Races are a scientific concept. All human populations were relatively isolated from each other until the past like 500 years. Obviously different populations in different areas will have different traits.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 09:40:52 UTC No. 16487681
>>16487672
>All human populations were relatively isolated from each other u
The irish were not isolated from the english yet the english developed a worldview that considered the irish to be subhumans
Same as with many, many other groups that lived right next to each other.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 11:40:32 UTC No. 16487750
>>16487609
Read Descent of Man, it answers all of this
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 13:51:44 UTC No. 16487845
>>16487616
race = ethnic group + culture
Englishman is a race composed of someone ethnically English acting with an English culture.
Someone ethnically English but acting with Japanese culture isn't in the race of Englishmen.
Someone ethnically Bantu but acting with an English culture isn't in the race of Englishmen.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 13:52:49 UTC No. 16487846
>>16487681
The Irish are slightly less intelligent than the English.
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:06:13 UTC No. 16487917
>>16487663
>p.s. the Chinese are so conformist because they've had about 5000 years of totalitarian governments that execute (and thus breed out) people who don't bow to the emperor low enough
Yes i do agree to some degree but dont overlook they did have a big revolutiolnand then seceral seperatist warlords and then a civil war between fascists and communists, so it is deeper than that but generally i would say that their culture developped to become harmonious (like in modern day harmonious basedciety).
Also for long stretches of time they were threatened heavily by foreign powers like the mongols or the japs which again unites a people
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:56:24 UTC No. 16487968
Geographical borders creates these small difference over time which grows large enough
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 06:02:37 UTC No. 16488867
>>16487846
>The Irish are slightly less intelligent than the English.
I dont believe there can possibly be any significant statistical difference in intelligence between the irish and the english, not enough to warrant the english to consider the irish to be subhumans. The reason there cant be a significant difference is because ireland is not isolated from england, despite being an island its been easy for populations to move across both islands since they were settled at the end of the ice age.
I specifically called on the irish as proof that racial theories have nothing to do with alleged geographical isolation and diverging biological evolution.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 06:18:20 UTC No. 16488874
>>16487917
>>16487846
If you go and live in Ireland, you will find that there is a sizeable lower class which is uncommonly and dangerously stupid. Ironically, the worst of these people are largely the result of British rape and pillage campaigns lead by oliver Cromwell and the continued cavorting between this group and the British boot boys the black and tans. Tldr; the lower IQ segment of the Irish are actually genetically outsourced criminals from Britain.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 06:25:55 UTC No. 16488876
>>16488874
Im sure the english have a big underclass of chavs and no one is calling them subhumans, except in a jokingly and self-deprecating manner.
What does it take to be a subhuman anyway? Scoring one point less in an IQ test?
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 07:02:18 UTC No. 16488906
>>16488876
Read my post again, it does not say what you think it says.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 09:40:11 UTC No. 16488966
>>16488867
>I dont believe there can possibly be any significant statistical difference in intelligence between the irish and the english,
prior to the third worldisation of england it used to be three or 4 iq points on average
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 09:41:12 UTC No. 16488967
>>16488876
>Im sure the english have a big underclass of chavs and no one is calling them subhumans,
we literally do
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 10:14:05 UTC No. 16488976
>>16487671
>Racism has been proven to be idiotic because when a group of whites, or blacks or of any other race get isolated, they divide themselves into fake races and start calling each other inferior subhumans
People look at smaller differences when the differences are smaller. Water is wet.
>Irish
actually do have a lower average IQ than the English. The difference is pretty small though compared to either of them against e.g. Somalis or even Arabs.
>social construct
>just pointed out how it's so innate
>israelis
believe in JUDAISM, more of a club with membership passed by the female line than any kind of racial aspect.
Racism is the truth, get over it.
>>16487845
Isn't race just a broader stroke of ethnicity? An Englishman raised like a Jap is the same race (Northern white) as any other Englishman or Swede or Pole.
>>16487917
Look at historical cycles. ALL of their history is like that. Cultures and situations change radically on the scale of a few centuries, so the consistent throughlines must be built into something deeper, like the blood.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 11:01:25 UTC No. 16488995
>>16487620
nice euphemism lel
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 11:47:43 UTC No. 16489029
>>16488967
>we literally do
only as a joke
>>16488966
>it used to be three or 4 iq points on average
Im sure theres parts of the irish population smarter than the average englishman, and parts of the english population dumber than the average irishman
Yet the english worldviews is that the irish as a whole are subhumans. The best irish are considered to be less than any english chav, just because
This is how absurd racism can get. It isnt about "tee hee abbos were isolated 60.000 years look at them" but literally your closest relatives because they dont follow your variant of christianity.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 11:49:58 UTC No. 16489030
>>16488976
>People look at smaller differences when the differences are smaller.
They make up differences. Unless you want everyone to be identical twins, racism will exist because people make up differences, And if visible differences cant be found, new ones can be manufactured based on anything such as the detailed interpretation of some religious text everyone follows, such differences simply get manufactured.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 11:57:25 UTC No. 16489035
>>16489030
1. This completely defeats the purpose of fighting racism, you argue it is 100% inevitable
2. Wrong anyway. In one gene pool, racism cannot exist, as there are actually no differences beyond random fluctuation. Of couse by flawed human nature one will find SOMETHING to differentiate oneself and one's family by, but this is simply human nature and to try to stamp it out would be a greater crime than to leave it be.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 12:07:24 UTC No. 16489040
>>16489035
>In one gene pool, racism cannot exist, as there are actually no differences beyond random fluctuation.
You cant tell apart an irish from an englishman in a lineup yet the english will say the irish is subhuman
>red hair
The english have red hair too, its just more common in ireland and many irish are swarthy, like george clooney. Theres obviously many different races at play here but it all gets subsumed into "england good, ireland bad" because of some 1600s war that has nothing to do with biological evolution. People lap it up.
Just like israelis do when they do their semitic larp.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 12:29:15 UTC No. 16489062
>>16489040
>You cant tell apart an irish from an englishman in a lineup yet the english will say the irish is subhuman
Irish and English ARE different gene pools though and have genetic differences. They're close enough I couldn't guess every time b ut if you showed me 50 Irish and 50 English I bet I could go 60/40 on it.
>red hair too
Yes -- one genetic trait. Midwits love touting that there is "no gene" for race -- yet there are fuckloads of genes whose probabilities are heavily racial, and by their combination race is an extremely rigorous concept. Technically, the blackest blacks of Cameroon COULD give birth to a phenotypic Scotsman -- but they won't, and nor the reverse, because the probability of such an event is about 1 in 10^100.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 13:33:12 UTC No. 16489115
To make room for the chosen one who is what this is all for.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 16:15:47 UTC No. 16489287
>>16489062
>Irish and English ARE different gene pools though and have genetic differences. They're close enough I couldn't guess every time b ut if you showed me 50 Irish and 50 English I bet I could go 60/40 on it.
60/40 is not enough, the english consider the irish to be subhumans, as a whole. In racism heres no judgements based on individual character. Thats the point, thats how stupid it is.
>>16489062
>Yes -- one genetic trait.
Point is english people have redheads too, so you cant just say redhead=irish, its just more likely compared to english people.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 17:43:16 UTC No. 16489384
>>16488867
>not enough to warrant the english to consider the irish to be subhumans
Correct.
>[there's no] significant statistical difference in intelligence between the irish and the english
incorrect.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 17:49:39 UTC No. 16489390
>>16489029
>This is how absurd racism can get.
Racism can be taken to absurd lengths as any other idea. There's a particular phenotype of people in the population that pretend to be ideologically pure in order to virtue signal to the group, with the end goal of gaining status in the group.
In 1930s germany these people would be fervent nazis. After 1945 these people instantly switch to rabid communists.
In the 1880s these people would've been "church ladies" constantly signalling how much they love church and despise people dressing to reveal to much skin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBf
1:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Raq
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 17:52:00 UTC No. 16489394
>>16488874
>the lower IQ segment of the Irish are actually genetically outsourced criminals from Britain.
Which doesn't disprove the point that intelligence is a result of predominantly genetics.
Therefore, a eugenics program could increase the intelligence of the population, in turn the prosperity of civilization.
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 00:20:37 UTC No. 16489956
>>16489287
You're really hung up on the English and Irish and the exact word "subhuman". 1. Largely no. 2. So what -- you've picked one extremely specific example of a racist belief being unreasonable, and yet you base on this the claim that every racist belief is.
>redhair
So look at a multitude of traits. English vs Irish has very few, but go compare blacks and east asiabs, for example. There are buttloads of differences (skin colour, bone shape, nose size, hair thickness, eye shape, head dimensions, ears, cephalic ratio, these are only above the neck, many more exist below). The same brain that has devoted sections of itself just to faces, is incredibly discerning on every little detail. It is possible by chance that a Japanese had a couple of typically-black features (and given the quantity of such features, it's probable) yet I could show you pictures of ethnic Japanese and Nigerians and you could tell them apart 100% of the time, even if all the Nigerians I showed you were albinos.
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 00:40:33 UTC No. 16489982
>>16488966
>three or 4 iq points
So no meaningful difference that could ever translate into anything useful.
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 02:01:56 UTC No. 16490070
>>16487609
environment
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 06:16:03 UTC No. 16490229
>>16487609
>so many different races
all humans are descendants of Adam and Eve. Don't ask about incest. Evolution is fake, there is only one race.
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 09:54:15 UTC No. 16490295
>>16489956
>You're really hung up on the English and Irish and the exact word "subhuman".
Yes, you have a problem with my specific example? Because it doesnt mesh well with your worldview i guess. Curious
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 10:05:46 UTC No. 16490299
>>16489029
>only as a joke
perhaps for you
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 10:08:56 UTC No. 16490302
>>16490299
No, its only as a joke. These english boarding school rugby kayak types trust fund greek literature readers types might want to genocide everyone tho
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 10:13:49 UTC No. 16490308
>>16489029
your worldview is retarded and you fail to understand the driving factors of intergroup differences and conflicts much too caught up in averages. You would fall for lewontin's fallacy.
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 10:15:29 UTC No. 16490310
>>16490302
they're benefit scrounging thieving little shits
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 10:28:13 UTC No. 16490315
>>16490308
>Genocides half the island
>It wasnt real racism
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 10:35:24 UTC No. 16490317
>>16490315
And you keep failing to understand that groups casn differ in more than just iq.
remarkable.
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:03:26 UTC No. 16490330
>>16490317
>And you keep failing to understand that groups casn differ in more than just iq.
Whos even talking about IQ? You are hallucinating conversations with yourself
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:28:25 UTC No. 16490339
>>16490229
No I went through this previously already, it's not possible, there's like no link between all the races, you would expect more people to look jewish but instead you are left with races that look widely different from one another and quite varied.
Obviously everyone is not a descendant of Adam and eve, I don't know where that comes from.
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:29:35 UTC No. 16490342
>>16490229
I don't really believe in evolution though, I think human beings were created by aliens
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:41:26 UTC No. 16490347
I just think like, I try to sorta of believe in the Bible, but it's hard to take it all seriously, I think what happened was that there was a race of highly advanced aliens, and what happened was that technology became too advanced and somehow it inadvertently caused the alien humanoids to lose their forms and they ended up becoming eternal angels and went into another dimension
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 18:58:35 UTC No. 16490703
>>16490347
the problem there is that a huge amount of the bible is lost in translation errors, look up Mauro Biglino
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 20:59:42 UTC No. 16490838
>>16487609
because people moved out of africa and adapted to new environments
but if you want to be precise then you have to think about the fact that there is more genetic variation in africa than the rest if the world combined
so this racial diversity you are talking about is only phenotypically superficial and biologically a complete illusion
Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 12:33:39 UTC No. 16491534
>>16490838
>because people moved out of africa
false