Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:27:37 UTC No. 16487942

It's understandable to have concerns about long-term use of Adderall. Here's why it may be working for you and what to consider moving forward:

Why Adderall Works: Adderall increases dopamine and norepinephrine levels in the brain, improving focus, motivation, and emotional regulation—areas often challenging for those with ADHD. This can make tasks feel more manageable and reduce restlessness.

Long-Term Use Considerations:

Tolerance: Over time, your body might adapt, potentially requiring dosage adjustments.
Dependence vs. Addiction: Using Adderall as prescribed reduces the risk of addiction. Dependence means relying on medication to function, which is common in managing chronic conditions.
Side Effects: Monitor for sleep issues, appetite changes, or increased heart rate, and discuss any concerns with your doctor.
Addressing Concerns: Medications like Adderall are legitimate treatments for ADHD, much like insulin for diabetes. If it improves your quality of life significantly, it may be addressing a genuine need.

Holistic Approach: Combining medication with lifestyle strategies—such as therapy, exercise, mindfulness, and structured routines—can enhance overall effectiveness and help manage symptoms.

Staying Informed:

Regular Check-Ins: Maintain open communication with your healthcare provider to monitor progress and make necessary adjustments.
Adherence: Use the medication strictly as prescribed to minimize risks.
Self-Monitoring: Be attentive to how you're feeling, both positive effects and any potential downsides.
Many people use stimulant medications long-term without major issues when they're part of a well-managed treatment plan. If Adderall helps you function better and feel more at ease, it's worthwhile to continue under your doctor's guidance to determine the best path forward.

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:44:21 UTC No. 16487950

>>16487934
Ignore the chap GPT reply, have you tried the following
>mindfullness meditation
>quiting all sources of easy dopamine (eg, video games, 4chan, any social media)
>cardio exercise

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:47:59 UTC No. 16487955

>>16487934
UK fag here. I tried everything too. Even coped by self medicating with modafinil and phenibut for years. I then thought maybe I have ADHD and bought Ritalin and concerta off black market and it was like night and day. I am not prescribed with vyvanse and dexamphet and take 50mg vyvanse when I wake up and 10mg dexamphet in afternoon. It’s a total game changer for me and just had first baby too so I’m glad I got a script. Stopped modafinil and pheni and all the other cope stuff. Haven’t felt any sides at all.

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 16:55:39 UTC No. 16488031

Consider phenylpiracetam + noopt + semax.

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 17:01:12 UTC No. 16488040

>>16487955
No self control and pops pills?
When can I plap you?

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 17:01:17 UTC No. 16488041

>>16487950
>mindfulless meditation
>cardio exercise
I do both of these. I wouldn't say I quietly meditate, but I practice mindfulness when I go walking. I also have a physical job where I'm walking 5-6 hours per day.
>quiting all sources of easy dopamine
Partially. I haven't played video games in several months. And like anyone, I'm guilty of scrolling social media but my screen time isn't too high. Even if I force myself off it, I can't bring myself to do much.

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Nov 2024 22:57:34 UTC No. 16488447

>>16487942
>Adderall increases dopamine and norepinephrine levels in the brain
Which causes an increase in the number of receptors, causing desensitivization to the drugs within the space of months.
>improving focus, motivation, and emotional regulation
Does not follow from the antecedent since a clear connection between dopamine metabolism and ADHD has never been established.
>areas often challenging for those with ADHD
By definition, ADHD involves challenges in focus. If a person with ADHD doesn't have attention issues, he does not have ADHD.
>Tolerance: Over time, your body might adapt, potentially requiring dosage adjustments.
Increase in the dosage which leads to an exponential increase in adverse side effects such as high blood pressure, cardiovascular disease, hunger suppression etc.
>Using Adderall as prescribed reduces the risk of addiction. Dependence means relying on medication to function, which is common in managing chronic conditions.
That's not what "dependence" means, otherwise Diabetics would develop dependence on insulin which is a perverted and deliberate misuse of language.
>Addressing Concerns: Medications like Adderall are legitimate treatments for ADHD...
No, it isn't. See the point above. No biological mechanism has ever been established for ADHD. From a medical point of view, ADHD doesn't exist.
>Holistic Approach: Combining medication with lifestyle strategies—such as therapy, exercise, mindfulness, and structured routines—can enhance overall effectiveness and help manage symptoms.
Trivial
>Adherence: Use the medication strictly as prescribed to minimize risks.
Point above. If no biological mechanism has been identified, then a drug isn't "medication". Again deliberate misuse of language.
>many people use stimulant medications long-term without major issues
Which implies that some, (possibly many), people use stimulant medications with major issues.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 04:58:38 UTC No. 16488840

>>16487934
there is no such thing as ADHD. There is no known genetic cause or recognized pathophysiology. There are no "labs". There are no instruments to measure it. There are no standards against which to compare non-existent results and no way to control for placebo. It's literally pseudo-science.

"Adderall" is amphetamines. It's speed. You're a fucking tweeker methhead. All you're doing is turning yourself into a "dependent" junkie and putting money in the Pharmacy Jew's pocket.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 10:03:49 UTC No. 16488973

>>16487934
I have no experience with Adderall, just Attentin, which is just 100% dexamphetamine. May be called Dexedrine where you live. Similar drug.
If you use the medication as you are supposed to you shouldn't have any issues with addiction. Only take it orally, and don't start skipping sleep or meals just because you can. It is not a replacement for taking care of your basic needs.
You will build up tolerance quickly and so the dosage may need to be adjusted. I regularly take breaks from the drug, like on weekends and holidays, and have never had any cravings for it or anything else that would suggest a dependency. Been on this medication for maybe 5 years.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 11:04:22 UTC No. 16488999

Amphetamines ware never designed to be popped non stop like skittles. You need to take a breaks, so regulation wouldn't happen so much.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 14:57:37 UTC No. 16489206

>>16488447
>>16488840
Which doctor hurt you?

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 15:07:17 UTC No. 16489216

>>16489206
Most people realize that shits literally a snakeoil drug scam. You're too buried in the system.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 15:15:40 UTC No. 16489222

>>16489216
Well, there are actually people injecting cobra venom and getting high on that,... Because.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 15:26:32 UTC No. 16489233

>>16488447
>causing desensitivization to the drugs within the space of months.
absolute horseshit. I've been taking opiates for 15 years now for major depression (which works amazingly well where all other medications failed) and every time I take it is like the first time. The "lol you'll need to take more and more because you get desensitized!" is DARE levels of propaganda.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 15:32:28 UTC No. 16489238

>>16489233
You must understand, that those are retarded kids... They'll actually need more and more, because they ware told.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 16:15:07 UTC No. 16489285

>>16487934
the average Amerifat will do all this and wonder why they are all insane. The effects of overmedication and overdiagnosing have been a disaster for America!

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 16:16:45 UTC No. 16489288

>>16487942
AI slop. The Butlerian Crusade is coming and you're on the list.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Nov 2024 22:07:40 UTC No. 16489709

>>16489285
yeah... nazis used amphetamines too

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 04:11:34 UTC No. 16490171

>>16487934
You cannot fix an ADHD brain with anything but dopaminergic drugs the same way you cannot make a car run off wine.
Sure, the car can run a little bit off the ethanol in the wine, but ultimately you cannot perform like you can on petrol.

Your brain is not made for the current farmer society. ADHD is a hunter-gatherer trait.

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:56:01 UTC No. 16490473

>>16487934
I went through a similar path.
Wasted years of my youth trying to brute force through it through different means.
Recently, I tried Vyvanse, and it was fantastic.
It really felt like I had escaped a decade-long period of depression. I felt healthy and excited and determined for the first time in years. I even managed to escape being a NEET and landed a decent job.
But now, I've come to realize I am quickly building a tolerance to it.
What once lasted ten to twelve hours now lasts only four, and all of those honeymoon-phase effects of positivity and clarity are practically gone.
What remains of it is like an extra strong, extra crisp cup of coffee.
It's nice coffee, but nice coffee by itself isn't exactly life changing.

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 21:30:05 UTC No. 16490877

>>16490473
>What once lasted ten to twelve hours now lasts only four, and all of those honeymoon-phase effects of positivity and clarity are practically gone.
>What remains of it is like an extra strong, extra crisp cup of coffee.
>It's nice coffee, but nice coffee by itself isn't exactly life changing.
Sounds like you just want to get high and don't actually have any attention span problems

Anonymous at Sat, 23 Nov 2024 23:52:15 UTC No. 16491019

>>16490877
No. I dropped out of college specifically because I couldn't focus.
This isn't about getting high, unless "getting high" means not being depressed.
That's what half of it is about, the fact that Vyvanse helped me in a way no antidepressant ever could, but it didn't last.
The other half of it is about the fact that Vyvanse, although still helpful, doesn't last as long as it used to, and it's effects are not as noticeable as they once were.
That's why it's nice coffee, but not life changing.

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 04:49:11 UTC No. 16491294

>>16489206
I am a doctor. You aren't. ;)

Go ahead explain to us all what causes you "ADHD". How you measure it. What you measure it against. What you measure it with. What labs your order and monitor. What genes are suspect. What long term (lifelong) use of amphetamines will be.


Literally answer even one of these in a professional, Scientific manner.

Go ahead. I'll wait.....

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 04:50:44 UTC No. 16491296

>>16489233
Opiates aren't amphetamines you dumb, junkie fuck.

If you're gonna do drugs, at least learn something about them aside from how many dicks you need to suck to get a pill ;)

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 08:07:30 UTC No. 16491403

>>16491296
Not every junkie is a sex slave, and also, there are people who do drugs that you wouldn't recognize as junkies if you met them.

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 13:53:10 UTC No. 16491582

>>16491403
If you're a-dick-ted to drugs, you're a FUCKING JUNKIE you FUCKING JUNKIE.


Please overdose, NOW!!!! You are and have never been and will never be anything but a burden to the Planet and your family. FUCKING DIE, DIE, DIE.

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 15:50:34 UTC No. 16491640

>>16491582
Wise man said:
Only thing worse than somebody's personality being all about doing drugs, is personality being all about NOT doing drugs.

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Nov 2024 17:12:26 UTC No. 16491693

>>16491582
spoke like a mf who doesn't understand that some people need drugs to function

Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 13:53:16 UTC No. 16492788

>>16490473
>I am quickly building a tolerance to it.
Do you give it off days? Like taking the weekends off. This seems to be the reality of stims for ADHD, need to take 'drug holidays' now and then due to tolerance

Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 17:57:07 UTC No. 16493065

>>16488447
>causing desensitivization to the drugs within the space of months
I can tell you firsthand this is not true
I was on 20mg adderall xr for all 4 years of high school, took 1 every single day and never had any diminished effects
hell I even popped some of my leftovers on occasion after graduation and still had the same effects as always

Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 18:34:44 UTC No. 16493097

>>16487934
>vegetarian diet rich in plant-based proteins and omega-3
>espresso, black tea and green tea
>Mg+2 supplements
>Vitamin B+
>Gym
>Reading (classical literature and philosophy)
Helped me A LOT

Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 19:26:55 UTC No. 16493152

tolerabce to medicibe is a concern if youre a kid if youre an adult just take whatever even if you develop tolerance over time.