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Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 16:36:50 UTC No. 16492962
Why can't you divide by zero? The answer is obviously infinity
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 16:39:40 UTC No. 16492966
You can divide by 0.
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 16:41:16 UTC No. 16492970
>>16492962
so is 5/0 < 6/0 ?
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 16:43:15 UTC No. 16492974
Define division as the inverse of multiplication.
[math]a/0=b[/math]
[math]a = 0 b[/math]
thus it only makes sense if a = 0
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 16:43:35 UTC No. 16492975
>>16492970
Obviously since the numerator is larger, retard
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 16:53:54 UTC No. 16492989
>>16492962
because you reach contradictions with most algebras. Some structures permit division by zero, but the only useful one is the Riemann sphere.
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 16:54:31 UTC No. 16492990
>>16492975
lets see what happens if we allow this
inf < inf
cool, we just invented a toy that kills any equation and turns it into nonesense.
and this is why you cant divide by 0.
how to go on with math? exclude it.
et voila.
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 17:12:23 UTC No. 16493010
>>16492990
There absolutely are bigger and smaller infinities.
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 17:16:55 UTC No. 16493013
>>16493010
not accessible by dividing real numbers by zero.
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 17:27:39 UTC No. 16493024
>>16493013
Just make up new infinitis for this purpose, like we did with roots of negative numbers
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 19:54:41 UTC No. 16493186
>>16492974
Or if b=infinity
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 20:27:04 UTC No. 16493229
It's like writing 2=3
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 20:31:17 UTC No. 16493236
2*0=3*0
DIVISION BUUUYYYYYY ZHEEROOOOOO
2=3
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 20:33:59 UTC No. 16493240
So if i have a standard equation like x^2 + 3x = 6x and then i divide both sides by x, does that mean zero is not in the domain of x?
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 20:35:21 UTC No. 16493244
>>16493240
How come x = 0 is a solution of that equation but not x + 3 = 6? math is dumb
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 20:41:25 UTC No. 16493249
>>16493186
but 0 times infinity is 0
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 20:42:52 UTC No. 16493251
>>16493249
Division by zero is just neutral mind. It would cause a random infinite division.
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 20:47:52 UTC No. 16493258
x^2 = 0
x = 0
1 = 0
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 21:52:53 UTC No. 16493341
I will stick to mathematical models of real measurable science experiments not abstract math
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 22:07:46 UTC No. 16493362
>>16492962
how many times does nothing go into something?
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 22:14:10 UTC No. 16493374
>>16493186
no. Multiplication is repeated addition. 0+0+0+0+0... an infinite number of times is still 0.
Or, look at it this way:
How many infinities do you have?
>I have zero infinities
so you have 0
>>16492990
that happens in other ways with infinity though because infinity can't be treated like a normal number.
EG, For any number greater than 1:
x < x^2
now if x is infinity... what then?
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 22:28:11 UTC No. 16493393
>>16492974
so can we say that 0/0 = 0 ?
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 22:43:22 UTC No. 16493419
>>16493024
nope I did not.
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 22:44:46 UTC No. 16493421
>>16493393
also nope.
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 23:00:06 UTC No. 16493434
>>16493421
but then why not? It fits >>16492974
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 23:06:07 UTC No. 16493442
>>16493374
>Multiplication is repeated addition. 0+0+0+0+0...
And division is repeated subtraction. The number of 0's you can subtract from 0+0+0+0... can be anything, or in other words, the unknown variable "a."
Anonymous at Mon, 25 Nov 2024 23:19:38 UTC No. 16493451
>>16492962
Christian Bale is relentlessly handsome. I bet he has an exceptionally pretty penis.
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Nov 2024 00:46:16 UTC No. 16493524
>>16493362
is 0 nothing?
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Nov 2024 01:04:00 UTC No. 16493540
>>16492962
If you divide by non-zero infinitesimals the answer is infinity (see the alpha formalism of nonstandard analysis), but if you allow division by zero then not only there aren't infitesimals, every number is equal to zero
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Nov 2024 03:25:08 UTC No. 16493649
>>16493236
2*inf=3*inf
2=3
QUICK GET RID OF INFINITY IT BROKE MY ARITHMETIC
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Nov 2024 03:30:30 UTC No. 16493651
>>16492962
ofc
division x/y is how many times y can be subtracted from x until x is 0
5 - 0 is 5... you can do this infinite times
0 is already 0, so 0/0 is 0
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Nov 2024 04:01:19 UTC No. 16493688
>>16493024
The roots of negative numbers actually are meaningful concepts with all sorts of actual implications (especially for dynamical systems that involve rotation or oscillation).
Your "many infinities so we can divide by zero" idea is nonsensical and also useless on top of that.
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Nov 2024 08:07:27 UTC No. 16493859
>>16493688
If it is so meaningful, why doesn't a probability of 0.5i have a meaning?
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Nov 2024 13:35:31 UTC No. 16494017
>>16493434
ok, but why shoulnt be 1 instead?
if you give me a reason its not 1, I will accept its 0.
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Nov 2024 13:38:46 UTC No. 16494022
>>16492962
Because you're a bitch, and you have to follow some rules and regulations given to you by your pimp.
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Nov 2024 18:52:03 UTC No. 16494296
>>16492962
yes, we just "don't know" whether its positive or negative
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Nov 2024 19:20:37 UTC No. 16494340
>>16493010
>There absolutely are bigger and smaller infinities.
Stupid language games.
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Nov 2024 19:38:59 UTC No. 16494359
>>16493688
>useless
Bruh it's the entire foundation of calculus
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Nov 2024 20:24:58 UTC No. 16494405
>>16494359
>>16494359
>muh heckin higher math
and Calculus is good for what exactly? Nothing
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Nov 2024 20:49:53 UTC No. 16494435
>>16492962
>The answer is obviously infinity
Which infinity?
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Nov 2024 21:34:44 UTC No. 16494510
>>16494340
This. You can match as many terms as you want, but both just go forever the same way. At any
Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 06:26:54 UTC No. 16495938
>>16492970
Is 5^0 > 6^0?
Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 06:28:16 UTC No. 16495942
>>16493010
No, either something goes on indefinitely or it stops at some point, there is no such thing as a bigger or smaller amount of indefiniteness.
Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 06:30:38 UTC No. 16495945
>>16493362
Every unit of something is a factorial amount of nothing. 1=0! which makes nothing exactly equal to the inverse factorial of unity.
Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 07:44:29 UTC No. 16495998
>>16493524
0 is the exact numerical arithmetic implementation of the additive element while nothing is the common term for an additive element.
Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 23:23:26 UTC No. 16496647
>>16495942
Bro prove to me that the real numbers are bijective with the integers or any other set with alep(0) cardinality. If you can then publish a paper and blow everyone's minds and like uproot the past maybe 2 centuries of math.
Anonymous at Thu, 28 Nov 2024 23:28:20 UTC No. 16496650
>>16494405
> "And calculus is good for what exactly? Nothing"
Guys look at this guy, he's on the MATH/science board stating this. He is a fool, but that's alright.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Nov 2024 06:17:33 UTC No. 16496913
>>16492962
You can, the answer is 0
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Nov 2024 06:29:17 UTC No. 16496920
>>16492974
engineer here. infinity times zero equals something finite.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Nov 2024 06:36:04 UTC No. 16496924
>>16495945
>1=0!
tell me more
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Nov 2024 11:00:14 UTC No. 16497072
>>16495945
>>16496924
Yo check it out, right - iz got somefin proper mental to tell you about nuffin! So like, even tho when you do this mad ting - ya know, that exclamation mark ting to zero (that's 0! for all you mathematician geezas out there) - it does equal 1, yeah? But don't get it twisted bruv! That don't mean we can start buildin' all numbers just by messin' about wiv zero, you get me?
Like, the only reason dem clever mathematics mans decided that 0! should equal 1 was coz it made all their other sums work proper smooth, innit? It ain't cos there's some deep philosophical ting about nuffingness or whateva. Respect to the mathematics still, but that's just the way it is, know what I mean?
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Nov 2024 19:00:30 UTC No. 16497420
>>16496924 >>16497072
it's a combo of the empty product and accepting that there IS a way to arange no objects, and the ammount of ways to arrange them is 1
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Nov 2024 19:22:21 UTC No. 16497430
>>16497072
>>16497420
is 0! the same concept as 0^0?
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Nov 2024 22:03:44 UTC No. 16497605
>>16492962
zero isn't a number or some shit.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Nov 2024 00:26:58 UTC No. 16497729
>>16492970
>>16492974
>>16492990
>>16493229
>>16493236
>>16493649
The multiplicative absorption property of infinity means that 2*infinity = 3*infinity = infinity. There's no logical contradiction in stating that any number divided by 0 is infinity even if you can abuse the algebra to imply 2 = 3. It's simply an irreversible operation. Information is destroyed as a result of performing the operation. Taking the derivative of an equation is another irreversible operation which is why when you integrate you always include +C.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Nov 2024 03:51:37 UTC No. 16497855
>>16497729
based and truthpilled
>>16497420
>a combo of the empty product
>a combo
>empty
>product
...
What the fuck
...
>>16493393
No, and this will be proven in like 100 years, but 0/0=1. I would do it but le modern le pruuf is a cancer that needs to finish its job and cannibalize the people who carry on the legacy of unnecessary proofs before we can start making any meaningful progress and getting some important results.
>>16493341
Like what?
Seriously name just 1 mathematical model of real measurable science experiments that's more important than this, or let me save you the trouble and tell you, you can't...
>>16493010
Only a theoretical mathematician totally disconnected from reality and reason would make such a claim that there is any more than 1 infinity. As soon as you bring 1 infinity within the same realm or space as another, the lesser ceases to exist as an infinity. Besides, infinity actually does not exist at all.
>>16492970
No they are actually the same;
5/0 = 6/0 = 1/0 = 0
and,
1/0 = 0/1
which leads to another most important result:
0*0 = 1*1 = 0/0 = 1/1 = 1
which in itself also shows that 1 is not 0;
that is because
as
x/0 = 0, except for when x = 0
because when x=0, x/0 = 1
It shows how 0 is absolutely unique, in that it is listed and works among the numbers, but is not actually a true number in the way that the others
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:18:26 UTC No. 16498395
>>16497430
if you mean that if they are both the empty product, then yes
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Nov 2024 19:07:07 UTC No. 16498455
>>16497605
So? Neither is infinity.
Neither is a basket of oranges, but you still can divide them by two.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Nov 2024 19:39:13 UTC No. 16498486
because you cant slice a pie if there is no pie. you dont get infinete pie slices by cutting a non existamce pie.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Nov 2024 23:32:01 UTC No. 16498684
>>16498486
dividing pie when there's no pie is 0/n, not n/0
Anonymous at Sun, 1 Dec 2024 01:01:28 UTC No. 16498750
>>16492962
Why would the answer be infinity?
It should be zero.
Otherwise you can never divide and reach zero.
If you try to divide nothing among 3 people you get nothing.
If you try to divide 3 things among zero people you get nothing still since "no one" can receive anything.
The assumption that it is infinity is circular reasoning error that ignores the reality which the principle was designed upon.
If dividing by zero had any merit reality would be completely different and we could easily have infinite supplies of things.
Anonymous at Sun, 1 Dec 2024 01:08:44 UTC No. 16498752
>>16493244
explain this someone smarter than me
Anonymous at Sun, 1 Dec 2024 02:18:02 UTC No. 16498796
>>16492962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR2
Anonymous at Sun, 1 Dec 2024 02:21:12 UTC No. 16498799
>>16492962
1 x 1 = 2
I’ve found if you take the square root of the flower of life and conjugate it with a dodecahedron, every microradian within the six degrees of freedom is bisexual just like carbon.
Anonymous at Sun, 1 Dec 2024 04:38:55 UTC No. 16498877
>>16492962
If infinity "exists" (as in : is a quantity, can be quantified), yes. But that's the problem : infinity as it is treated today is a fictional concept. Infinity, by definition is not something that is reached, it's litterally in the name. There is NEVER a point where you have reached the final amount of numbers, so it CANNOT exist. But modern physicists/mathematicians insist on our universe being composed of infinities, that is simply not possible. If present states follow infinities, then that would mean that they cannot exist, because they would represent a state that would NEVER be reached (i.e. it CANNOT be reached). Never means never, sorry mathcucks and physicscels.
Anonymous at Sun, 1 Dec 2024 04:51:56 UTC No. 16498885
>>16492966
>>16492962
Why not, you stupid bastard?
Anonymous at Sun, 1 Dec 2024 10:49:51 UTC No. 16499105
>>16497072
Just because they didn't intend on making a profound statement on nothingness doesn't mean their efforts didn't result in a profound statement of nothingness, actually the fact that they didn't even set out trying, its just what they discovered along the way, is what makes it all the more profound.
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Dec 2024 15:51:13 UTC No. 16500251
>>16492962
Fundamental question about math ey?
You can if you use geometric construction of circular inversion.
The reflection of point P, P', is not found, for the line is in parallel.
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Dec 2024 15:55:36 UTC No. 16500254
>>16492962
Does it personally affect you that you can't divide by zero?
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Dec 2024 00:02:22 UTC No. 16500698
>>16492962
It's whatever we define it to be, and it's meaningless without a use.
If defining division by zero as equal to infinity helps us in some way proves something or allows us to calculate something, then it shall be so.