🧵 /sfg/ - space flight general
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 03:58:46 UTC No. 16510364
it is throwback thursday my dudes
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Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 04:02:56 UTC No. 16510368
You fucking nigger you piece of shit scum fuck this thread isnt spaceflight and you didnt put edition in the title
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 04:03:25 UTC No. 16510369
>>16510364
did anyone in /sfg/ follow space x during the falcon 1 days?
just got done reading liftoff and reentry
I wasn't even aware spacex was a thing until the amos-6 explosion
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 04:05:06 UTC No. 16510371
>>16510368
lol, lmao
does it trigger your autism?
>>16510369
no, I was aware of them with early Falcon 9 and started paying attention just before Falcon Heavy
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 04:05:10 UTC No. 16510372
I put my penis in a rocket girl
a story by me
a space rocket was there, it was so shiny and tall. i thought "wow this rokets gonna take me to the stars!"
But then i got confused and started huging it, saying sweet nothings to the nozle. we made love under the stars, but it was all in my head cuz rockets dont have feelings or vaginas.
i was sad when i realized im just a lonely guy who loves machines too much. Now i sit in my basement, dreaming of rocket love, waiting for the day NASA calls me for a date...with the space dream
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 04:05:13 UTC No. 16510373
EVERYONE GO BACK TO THE OTHER THREAD WERE MAKING ANOTHER THREAD
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 04:07:42 UTC No. 16510375
>>16510373
nah
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 04:15:40 UTC No. 16510380
IT'S NOT FLIGHT 7
IT'S NOT IFT OR OFT 7
IT'S STARSHIP 7
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 04:17:42 UTC No. 16510381
>>16510380
yup its the 7th integrated (sub)orbital test flight of starship
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 04:18:03 UTC No. 16510382
>>16510380
>ITS
>MAAM
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 04:18:05 UTC No. 16510383
>>16510380
>IT'S STARSHIP 7
No booster?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 04:22:32 UTC No. 16510384
>>16510380
It's going to be the first starship to fly on 1/11, and after a certain point there should be several on that day, every year, so we'll call it 1/11-1
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 04:27:07 UTC No. 16510386
>>16510380
Orbital Test Flight (OTF) 7, SN7
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 04:28:03 UTC No. 16510389
>>16510380
more like
Super Heavy 7
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 04:29:01 UTC No. 16510390
Anyone who has typed a number in this thread, that is how many women have rejected you
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 05:02:41 UTC No. 16510409
>>16510369
>>16510371
>didn't excitedly show your dad the grass hopper video when it first came out
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 05:03:45 UTC No. 16510410
>>16510409
yeah, grasshopper, I think that was when I got in
what's the timeline again?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 05:07:24 UTC No. 16510413
If Elon can shut down F-35 , then he can do what the fuck he want to do. lol
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 05:24:05 UTC No. 16510419
>>16510364
Reminder that the FAA saved Starhopper on this flight by not giving SpaceX the full flight ceiling they requested
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 05:44:42 UTC No. 16510427
>>16510423
Needs some if my load in it.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 05:52:23 UTC No. 16510431
>>16510384
>Starship 7
>on the 11th
oh goddammit it's another Elon pun
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 05:59:08 UTC No. 16510433
hihg test
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 06:01:53 UTC No. 16510434
uranus
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 06:02:41 UTC No. 16510436
hnnnnnnggggggg
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 06:09:55 UTC No. 16510440
fuck you
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 06:12:55 UTC No. 16510442
>>16510441
cold fusion is a meme
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 06:14:55 UTC No. 16510446
>>16510442
It's not cold fusion.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 06:25:03 UTC No. 16510451
extreme pressure and temperature deep within Uranus may break up the methane
gaseous atmosphere gradually transitions into the internal liquid layers
there is no well-defined solid surface within Uranus's interior
the outermost part of Uranus's gaseous envelope that is accessible to remote sensing
record-breaking wind speeds
Uranus has 28 known natural satellites
the exploration of Uranus has, to date, been through telescopes and a lone probe
Uranus is visible to the naked eye
there are dark spots on Uranus
Uranus was "knocked over" by the supermassive impactor which caused its extreme axial tilt, the event also caused it to expel
>SNIFFFFFFFFFF
imagine the smell
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 06:34:56 UTC No. 16510455
>>16510451
*braps into your oxygen recycler*
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 06:44:48 UTC No. 16510460
>He went to the Palo Alto public library to read about rocket engineering and started calling experts, asking to borrow their old engine manuals.
>At a gathering of PayPal alumni in Las Vegas, he sat in a cabana by the pool reading a tattered manual for a Russian rocket engine.
>When one of the alums, Mark Woolway, asked him what he planned to do next, Musk answered, “I’m going to colonize Mars. My mission in life is to make mankind a multiplanetary civilization.”
>Woolway’s reaction was unsurprising.
>“Dude, you’re bananas.”
What is he thinking now?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 07:11:35 UTC No. 16510470
>>16510460
How cool it must be to have dreams, the willpower and the money to make it happen
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 07:14:21 UTC No. 16510472
>>16510470
>the money
?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 07:27:08 UTC No. 16510475
>>16510369
>just got done reading liftoff and reentry
are you me?
DId you also get the feeling Liftoff could be made into a 10 episode TV series ala Band of Brothers? There's many moments i felt would make kino scenes, especially Dunn saving Falcon 1 inside the DC-17
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 07:40:58 UTC No. 16510479
>>16510364
i long for hopper update with raptor 3
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 07:56:50 UTC No. 16510482
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 08:55:05 UTC No. 16510502
>>16510210
>>Psyche is cool, it's a much more useful destination than Venus
>Objectively wrong
Enough readily available metal for all the solar system
vs
A ball of CO2 and sulfuric acid at the bottom of a large gravity well
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:09:29 UTC No. 16510549
>>16510369
Somewhat, but at the time I didn't know much about Elon who seemed like just another rich guy with a hobby space company. So my attitude was basically wake me up when you actually get to orbit and then I stopped paying attention at some point. In the very early days during the Columbia aftermath much of the attention was on the X-prize and Virgin Galactic and there were retards everywhere saying private space flight was impossible.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:13:53 UTC No. 16510551
>>16510380
>they/them
IFT-7
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:28:56 UTC No. 16510558
>>16510369
I began following space stuff around this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaO
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:32:46 UTC No. 16510559
>>16510484
when will starships start looking professional? they still like test articles.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:33:47 UTC No. 16510560
>>16510559
Hopefully never. I like the jank.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:47:47 UTC No. 16510562
>"At 15:17 Beijing time (07h17 UTC) on December 12, my country successfully launched the Gāosù jīguāng zuànshí (high-speed laser Diamond Constellation test system) at the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center using the Long March 2D launcher/YZ-3 upper stage. The five satellites successfully entered the predetermined orbit and the launch mission was a complete success."
>"This mission is the first time that the Expedition 3 upper stage has carried out a 1-arrow 3-orbit launch mission!"
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:48:51 UTC No. 16510564
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:49:54 UTC No. 16510567
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:51:20 UTC No. 16510569
>>16510562
>diamond space lasers
ah, its the 1970s again
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:51:21 UTC No. 16510570
>>16510567
Patch, CZ-2D Y60 + YZ-3 Y5
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 12:07:11 UTC No. 16510576
>>16510559
Yeah they look awful, but according to the renders spaceX showed, operational starship will be full black
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 12:39:58 UTC No. 16510588
Don’t Doubt ur Vibe
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 12:41:46 UTC No. 16510589
fuck you
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:13:39 UTC No. 16510607
fuck you
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:14:47 UTC No. 16510608
>>16510567
qrd on why the squares fall off?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:16:45 UTC No. 16510609
>>16510562
why does the fairing look like it has so much shit falling off it? is that second stage frost or china quality paint prep?
Somebody already asked and Now I see its squares but I waited 15 fucking minutes to post this
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:18:56 UTC No. 16510610
>>16510609
It's a chinese thing, they put those on their rockets and aerodynamic forces peel it off.
I know some of them cover the hot stage ring but don't know why the others are there.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:29:16 UTC No. 16510618
>>16510475
maybe 10 years from now we'll get one
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:36:38 UTC No. 16510622
>>16510608
they're insulation panels to reduce boil off prior to launch
i think
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:46:23 UTC No. 16510634
>>16510633
>EMP
nothingburger
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 14:20:07 UTC No. 16510640
>>16510633
>if you put the word Tesla in the name you don't have to explain how it works
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 14:41:37 UTC No. 16510646
>Bruno says ULA has been working on a platform that is “lightning fast, long-range and, if necessary, very lethal.”
>He says it’s not a satellite, which is “slow and deliberate,” but closer to “a rocket that operates in space.”
what
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 14:43:47 UTC No. 16510647
>>16510646
Atmo/Space fighter/bomber
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 14:51:15 UTC No. 16510652
>>16510646
ITS HABPENINGG!1!!1!!
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 14:53:30 UTC No. 16510654
>>16510646
Boing is selling off their aerospace investments, X-37 will transfer to ULA
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 14:55:30 UTC No. 16510655
>>16510646
>>16510652
add on kit to weaponize starship to sell to the military
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 14:56:44 UTC No. 16510657
>>16510646
https://youtu.be/bct3MwkxE0Y?si=lW0
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 14:58:53 UTC No. 16510659
>>16510608
>>16510609
Insulation to keep payload or stage warm, it gets cold in inner mongolia in Winter;
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:10:22 UTC No. 16510662
>>16510380
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Starship, is in fact, Starship-Super Heavy, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Super Heavy plus Starship. Starship is not a Mars settlement vehicle unto itself, but rather another multimillion dollar component of a fully functioning Earther destruction system made useful by the Super Heavy booster, incinerated beetles, and illegal alien welders comprising a full send as defined by Elon.
Many Mars settlers use a modified version of the Super Heavy system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Super Heavy which is widely used these synods is often called "Starship", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Super Heavy system, developed by the Super Heavy team.
There really is a Starship, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Starship is the rocket: the payload in the system that allocates the Earthers' resources towards ends that will result in their destruction. The rocket is an essential part of an Earther destruction system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of an independent Mars and total beetle extinction. Starship is normally used in combination with the Super Heavy booster: the whole system is basically Super Heavy with Starship added, or Starship-Super Heavy. All the so-called "Starship" bombardments are really bombardments from Starship-Super Heavy.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:12:06 UTC No. 16510664
System name: Starship (Super Heavy)
Upper stage name: Starship #
Test launch name: Starship #
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:13:12 UTC No. 16510665
"I just witnessed Starship 33 on Starship 7 and Starship reached fractional orbit"
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:14:07 UTC No. 16510666
>planned NG launch is around Christmas
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:15:25 UTC No. 16510667
>>16510369
I did and the US was in a transitional period after retiring the Shuttle with no other crew launcher in sight so it was kinda obvious they were going to do well. They kinda snowballed a lot later on with F9 B5.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:24:49 UTC No. 16510675
>>16510646
Smart Rocks
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:27:12 UTC No. 16510677
>>16510646
Source?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:27:51 UTC No. 16510679
>>16510646
ACES
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:28:57 UTC No. 16510680
There is a very real possibility that December 2024 becomes the first month in history with more orbital launches than days.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:31:06 UTC No. 16510686
>>16510680
50/50 possibility, to be precise
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:54:22 UTC No. 16510705
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:58:33 UTC No. 16510709
My mother has been telling me about those orb ufos. What do you guys reckon? I haven't been seeing much about that stuff on the sites I frequent honestly. I guess I kinda just assume these things are some kind of hoax or viral campaign so I haven't really been very interested
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:59:16 UTC No. 16510710
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/
>FAA administrator Mike Whitaker announced he will resign instead of serving as the head of the agency in the second Trump administration, offering President-elect Donald Trump the chance to determine who will take the job next.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 16:04:02 UTC No. 16510714
>>16510709
I checked out of the subject long ago, I just don't care until I see a live ayy standing a few feet from me, and even then I'll be suspicious.
30+ years of "disclosure soon bro" will do that do you.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 16:05:31 UTC No. 16510716
>>16510551
Correct only trannies use IFT
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 16:08:44 UTC No. 16510721
>>16510441
qrd?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 16:12:47 UTC No. 16510725
>>16510709
Almost all of it is commercial air traffic being misidentified by people who might as well be legally blind when it comes to recognizing what a 737 looks like. A lot of the rest is legal civilian drone flights. A racing quad copter flown at night with a bright LED on it would look weird to most people. Some nig nog posts an out of focus video to tik tok of something they can't comprehend, it hits trending, and public hysteria takes care of the rest.
The rest of the cases are slants trying to spy on military facilities.
https://www.newsweek.com/china-news
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 16:14:09 UTC No. 16510727
Watched some TV the other day since I was in a hotel. The show on was about the space technology sector in salt Lake city. When ever they used video clips it always used a combination of the companies in the area and cgi clips of the space shuttle. No other rocket system lmao
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 16:17:33 UTC No. 16510730
https://europeanspaceflight.com/thi
>The European Space Agency has published a third iteration of a proposed pathfinder study for the development of a European reusable super heavy-lift rocket capable of delivering 60 tonnes to low Earth orbit.
>At its core, the study seeks to address two key questions: What are the technological, technical, planning, and financial requirements? And, considering the need for a sustainable public-private risk-sharing model, “since a fully institutional approach is not considered viable,” is there a credible business case for this type of launch system? In relation to that second question, ESA has emphasized private investment for the first time over the three iterations.
>Once the study is complete, ESA hopes to have a detailed end-to-end development roadmap with a well-defined business case that could be used to move forward with the project quickly. A decision on whether to adopt the programme will likely be made at the ESA ministerial meeting in late 2025.
>Two contracts, each worth €4 million, will be awarded as part of the study
Europe remains deeply seriousness about its future in space
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 16:28:48 UTC No. 16510736
>>16510709
A few days ago I saw a video of a helicopter landing at night. Navigation lights on and everything. The commenters were all losing their minds about how “alien drones were pretending to be terrestrial aircraft”
I don’t have much respect for people who follow UFOs. I can’t identify everything in the sky either, but my mind doesn’t immediately jump to 50s b movie scifi tropes.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 16:43:18 UTC No. 16510748
Yeah starship v2 is ugly as fuck and has zero sovl
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 16:49:25 UTC No. 16510753
>>16510710
Trump would have fired him anyway
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 16:55:04 UTC No. 16510757
>>16510748
Elon promised Starship wouldnt be a pencil dick. Another lie. Starship V3 will be awful, wont be able to handle upper level winds. Cant land on moon or mars (will tip over). fucking dumb
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 16:55:07 UTC No. 16510758
>>16510659
>>16510622
So the rocket/paylaod are designed to weather the extremes of space but cant survive the cold of inner mongolia?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 16:57:26 UTC No. 16510759
>>16510758
there’s no weather in space
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 16:58:57 UTC No. 16510760
>>16510759
Wrong actually
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 16:59:25 UTC No. 16510761
>>16510759
yes there is
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:13:19 UTC No. 16510763
>>16510760
>>16510761
Space weather isn’t real. Don’t listen to NOAA’s lies.
>uhh the sun kicked out slightly more particles just now
nothingburger
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:29:58 UTC No. 16510775
>>16510657
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM
I fear the Chinese have surpassed us in near-future space kino
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:39:49 UTC No. 16510782
https://x.com/virgingalactic/status
>Virgin Galactic is partnering with Italy's civil aviation authority, Ente Nazionale per l'Aviazione Civile, to study potential spaceflight operations in southern Italy. This is the first step toward establishing our first international spaceport.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:41:34 UTC No. 16510784
>>16510782
A spaceport doesn't mean much if you don't have a launch vehicle
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:47:34 UTC No. 16510789
https://x.com/JConcilus/status/1867
>An initial view of this morning’s Long Range Hypersonic Weapon (LRHW) / Dark Eagle system test launch from Cape Canaveral’s pad SLC-46. This is a joint Army-Navy hypersonic weapon land & sea deployment. Will add a thread this afternoon with more details & different camera angle.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:47:39 UTC No. 16510790
>>16510784
it's the battle of the billionaires. Branson, Bezos, Busk. Who will win the new space race?
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:48:36 UTC No. 16510792
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:50:16 UTC No. 16510796
>>16510784
>Someone overseas invents Reusable airplanes
>I decide to build an airport
>can't because I havent invented my own airplane
???
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:50:21 UTC No. 16510797
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:55:08 UTC No. 16510799
>>16510796
It’s not illegal to fly airplanes to and from Italy
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:55:16 UTC No. 16510800
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:56:03 UTC No. 16510801
>>16510792
Solids are so sexy
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:57:24 UTC No. 16510802
>>16510730
>study
god fucking dammit.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 18:04:14 UTC No. 16510807
>>16510796
I just don't see what good it's going to do them unless companies like Avio, RFA, and PLD Space are going to be launching from there
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 18:13:06 UTC No. 16510812
>>16510730
>A decision on whether to adopt the programme will likely be made at the ESA ministerial meeting in late 2025
Why do Euros move so slowly bros?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 18:40:45 UTC No. 16510831
>>16510730
>ESA hopes to have a detailed end-to-end development roadmap with a well-defined business case that could be used to move forward with the project quickly.
Spending a year doing studies is hardly moving forward quickly lol
That whole mindset is why these government types are fully incapable of doing it quickly
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 18:45:00 UTC No. 16510836
>>16510800
>>16510789
These are what Zumwalt's guns are being replaced with.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 18:45:01 UTC No. 16510837
>>16510801
Kairos flight #2 tomorrow
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 18:49:45 UTC No. 16510841
>>16510831
>That whole mindset is why these government types are fully incapable of doing it quickly
Good point, I am going to ask my network of institutions, doctors and universities to consult the feasibility of starting a project about creating an ehnanced synergetically lean framework system for integrating and delivering space systems in shortened timeframes. After going through a round of questions, then we can start scheduling a committe to set the things that we will want to discuss in the real discussion, about wether or not the risks and costs involved are worhy of starting the pre-project outline in itself.
I am very european.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 18:55:09 UTC No. 16510846
>>16510841
and none of those people doing the study know how to weld steel or make hobby rocket engines
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 18:59:23 UTC No. 16510847
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd
did we watch this? was there anything useful from it?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 19:03:42 UTC No. 16510849
https://twitter.com/astro_wakata/st
Looks like the axiom suit is almost finished.
Good news, I felt scaremongering about the suits after collins pulled out and axiom had it's financing issues but looks like everythings working out.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 19:15:15 UTC No. 16510862
>>16510782
Italy was thinking about making an old carrier a sealunch platform. For vega?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 19:16:12 UTC No. 16510865
>>16510730
>Two contracts, each worth €4 million, will be awarded as part of the study
4 mil to print a pdf that will say "It would be cool if we got money to build a rocket for real"
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 19:19:48 UTC No. 16510871
>>16510858
Was this test also at Moses Lake like the first one?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 19:20:49 UTC No. 16510873
starship is a retarded idea. a dozen in-orbit refuels to go anywhere is a retarded idea. how are the "smart" people of /sci/ not seeing this? the entire system is a fucking joke.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 19:26:12 UTC No. 16510879
>>16510873
Because the alternative is admitting we're never getting our species off this planet without detonating nuclear bombs in the atmosphere.
We tentatively decided to settle with chemical rockets for research purposes. Then, as often happens in science, this assumption that chemical rockets are all we have was taken for granted and is now regarded as truth by the ignorant.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 19:26:33 UTC No. 16510880
>>16510873
Post your cheaper alternative for kilograms to mars and back
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 19:27:01 UTC No. 16510881
>>16510873
Run a big fuel line up to GEO.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 19:32:22 UTC No. 16510884
>>16510880
1 million ton
nuclear pulse propulsion
launched next to manhattan
single stage to callisto
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 19:34:16 UTC No. 16510887
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 19:35:45 UTC No. 16510889
>>16510884
>>16510887
Certainly better, but cheaper? Not sure fission charges come with a bulk discount lol
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 19:38:22 UTC No. 16510893
>>16510873
takes more than a dozen trucks to fill a rocket with propellant, but nobody thinks trucking is “a retarded idea”.
In 20 years they will look back at people like you with disgust for how long you held back spaceflight.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 19:38:26 UTC No. 16510894
>>16510871
https://x.com/AndyLapsa/status/1867
Pretty sure this is the Moses Lake stand
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 19:41:16 UTC No. 16510899
>>16510889
making plutonium is cheap as shit
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:06:33 UTC No. 16510923
>>16510800
>>16510789
SRB pluuumes are kinooo
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:07:18 UTC No. 16510925
>>16510923
the r in SRB stands for retarded
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:09:28 UTC No. 16510928
>>16510921
Jared Isaacman if you can hear us, please Rookie, please save me. Please save me Jared Isaacman
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:09:30 UTC No. 16510929
>>16510889
A study in 1964 estimated a cost of $40,000 1964 dollars per charge, or $400,000 current dollars, giving a cost to Mars landing and return of somewhere around $150/kg, assuming you use 2400 charges (triple the estimate for reaching LEO) and have a 5,000t payload.
>>16510873
Compare Starship. Some back of the envelope math.
Assuming a Starship can carry either a payload or a 10% tankload of extra fuel, and can do one of the following on a tank:
>get to Mars orbit from LEO
>land and take off from Mars
>return to Earth orbit from Mars orbit
First you launch the Mars lander. Then you need to launch 10 tankers to fuel its flight to Mars orbit.
Then you need to do that 10 more times to send 10 tankers to Mars orbit, to refuel it for landing. Having launched 121 Starships so far, you may now land one Starship on Mars.
Then you have to do that again to get home. You have now done a single Mars mission using only 231 Starships.
Taking Elon at his word and assuming a payload of 100t and a per-launch cost of $50 million, you're looking at a bargain $115,000 per kg.
But don't fret, this drops to only $60,500 per kg if you just land on Mars and don't return.
We'll be an interplanetary species any day now.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:10:33 UTC No. 16510932
>>16510929
Wtf build Orion deep space megacruisers RIGHT NOW
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:13:04 UTC No. 16510933
>>16510932
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING!!!!!!!
Get NPP into the collective consciousness NOW
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:13:16 UTC No. 16510935
>>16510921
https://youtu.be/B47dEE6n7SI
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:14:14 UTC No. 16510937
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:15:23 UTC No. 16510938
>>16510937
Even the heatshield looks cleaner.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:15:24 UTC No. 16510939
>>16510937
left mogs right so hard
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:17:09 UTC No. 16510942
>>16510937
V2 is uglier, am I alone in thinking this?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:17:18 UTC No. 16510943
>>16510937
does the left still flap ?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:17:43 UTC No. 16510944
>>16510937
It looks terrible
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:18:19 UTC No. 16510947
>>16510937
canards looking shit
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:18:41 UTC No. 16510948
>>16510942
No and V3 is going to look even worse
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:19:56 UTC No. 16510950
ITS was peak aesthetic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qo
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:20:55 UTC No. 16510953
>>16510950
Hard agree
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:21:39 UTC No. 16510954
>>16510950
>450 tons to orbit
we are never going to mars
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:27:00 UTC No. 16510959
>>16510937
Grok generated this image
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:27:38 UTC No. 16510960
>>16510677
This thread is the source.
>>16510646
It's high end bait, but it's bait none the less.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:29:39 UTC No. 16510966
What do you think about Bruno prediction?
https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:36:27 UTC No. 16510971
>>16510937
>right
big fat hinges, flaps protruding, disrespectful, dirty
>left
clean, smooth
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:37:56 UTC No. 16510973
>>16510966
There will be starship and 1 rocket that is not starship (probably new glenn but maybe neutron)
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:39:56 UTC No. 16510976
>>16510937
Holy shit. This is BAD
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:40:30 UTC No. 16510978
>>16510976
there’s no way to sugarcoat this
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:44:19 UTC No. 16510983
>>16510966
what happens when spacex launches 150 times next year
and its still 40 paid non-starlink launches
Which other company will exist in a situation where they can' beat spacex on anything, let alone price/speed ?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:44:20 UTC No. 16510984
>>16510849
This single suit costs more than the entire Starship hardware
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:46:06 UTC No. 16510987
>>16510849
Holy shit. TAKE MY TAXPAYER MONEY
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:47:34 UTC No. 16510989
>>16510929
Starship has to be refueled in LMO to land on Mars???
I thought that was the header tank's job. I remember Elon answering someone's question during one of his Diablo streams after Flight 3 or 4 about how they would deal with insulation during the coast to Mars and he said that only the header tank had to be insulated since the main tank would be empty(with some residuals) after TMI, which implies that the header tank will still have fuel left to do the landing burn.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:57:29 UTC No. 16510997
>>16510879
>>16510884
Speaking of nuclear...
would it make sense to make a vacuum-only version of Starship powered by methane NTRs for interplanetary travel?
Or would VASMIR engines powered by an onboard reactor be better?
Since it is vacuum only, Starship could have external tanks mounted to its sides and refuel in Mars/Earth orbit assuming that a fuel station is set up.
Or would it make more sense to assemble a new vehicle from scratch optimized for interplanetary flight?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:58:01 UTC No. 16510998
https://x.com/davill/status/1867301
Our sea-based landing platform for #NewGlenn - is one of the largest remotely operated vessels in the world. One cool system on Jacklyn is our Recovery Remotely Operated Vehicle, or ROV, that connects to New Glenn's reusable booster stage immediately after landing. This connection provides power, communication, and pneumatic links between the booster and the platform. The ROV has a footprint similar to an F-150 truck but is considerably taller, standing around 14 ft. tall when the manipulator arm is raised. During landing, it's operated from a support vessel five to 10 nautical miles away from Jacklyn. What's great about this setup is that it greatly speeds up mission turnaround times and keeps the crew safer.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:59:06 UTC No. 16511001
>>16510950
Elon did mention that they're eventually gonna make a bigger diameter rocket.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:59:33 UTC No. 16511002
>>16510997
Holy fuck lurk way, way more dude
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:01:08 UTC No. 16511003
>>16511002
no
answer the question chud
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:01:43 UTC No. 16511005
>>16510997
Why would you run NTRs on methane?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:01:43 UTC No. 16511006
>>16511003
Okay.
NTR and VASIMR are fucking GAY.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:01:49 UTC No. 16511007
>>16510997
While it would certainly yield a higher performance vehicle and SpaceX has looked into getting permission to explore nuclear upper stages, the regulatory hangups and specialization in the design would work against SpaceX's goal of making the cheapest, most mass produced vehicle they can. Their Mars and solar system colonization plans call on making something cheap enough to be useful for everything.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:06:09 UTC No. 16511010
>>16510997
NTRs are a small improvement on chemical rockets in terms of delta-v with a lot of drawbacks. You basically have to design the entire spacecraft and the entire mission around their constraints, like radiation shielding, exhaust safety, and reactor startup and cooldown times. And you already mentioned how they would need different fuel tanks. I don't see a purpose in trying to shoehorn all that onto a Starship.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:07:10 UTC No. 16511011
is vast's station going up next year or is it just memes
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:08:40 UTC No. 16511013
>>16511011
50/50 either it goes up or it doesn’t
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:09:49 UTC No. 16511015
>>16510997
>>16511010
Forgot to add, nuclear rockets and NPP are in completely different regimes of efficiency. All nuclear rockets are limited by having to transfer their thermal energy into the propellant, which is extremely slow in the case of nuclear-electric and extremely inefficient in the case of nuclear-thermal. NPP steps around this problem by letting the core vaporize itself.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:10:47 UTC No. 16511018
>>16511007
>>16511010
would it be worth it if they can use the extra performance to shrink the travel time between planets?
>>16511015
so is NPP is best bet for quick interplanetary travel in the near future?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:12:14 UTC No. 16511021
>>16511018
>would it be worth it if they can use the extra performance to shrink the travel time between planets?
For a certain value of time shrinkage. 90 days to a week? Almost certainly. 90 days to 60? 45? 30? Probably not.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:14:21 UTC No. 16511024
>>16511018
>so is NPP is best bet for quick interplanetary travel in the near future?
Nuclear pulse propulsion is forbidden by the Outer Space Treaty; it would work by pushing the spacecraft with nuclear bombs, which aren't allowed in orbit.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:17:03 UTC No. 16511027
>>16511024
>respecting e*rther laws
pathetic
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:19:27 UTC No. 16511032
>>16511018
You could definitely shorten missions, but the best use case of NR would be for longer interplanetary flights with very high delta-v requirements, like human missions to Saturn's moons.
>>16511018
>so is NPP is best bet for quick interplanetary travel in the near future?
Pretty much, but there's a lot of cultural and regulatory issues standing in its way. The Nuclear Test Ban Treaty forbids launching them on Earth (though it was also considered feasible to assemble a craft in orbit using conventional launchers), while the Outer Space Treaty forbids using them in space. There's also the general public resistance to the idea of detonating 800 thermonuclear warheads in the upper atmosphere in quick succession.
Time will tell whether these inhibitions can survive the Second Cold War.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:21:32 UTC No. 16511035
>>16511024
>Outer Space Treaty
Fun fact you can just ignore this shit
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:23:41 UTC No. 16511039
>>16511024
>no you can't go chart a path to the new world, sails are regulated and you will not receive clearance so just give up
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:24:24 UTC No. 16511042
>>16510950
I am baffled every day at how they went from this SOVL to the absolute slop which is the IFT recap videos.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:26:08 UTC No. 16511045
>>16511044
Incessant and extravagant political waste.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:26:46 UTC No. 16511048
>>16511042
>animation is sovl
>real life is slop
?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:39:54 UTC No. 16511061
>>16511044
Nasa should cancel everything and rebuild the space shuttle
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:40:08 UTC No. 16511062
>>16511048
stop pretending to be retarded. if you think this is good you need to be crippled in a car crash in minecraft. It is the kind of slop any 16 year old would make.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApM
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:42:45 UTC No. 16511063
>>16511062
this is literally the most kino one out of all of them wdym?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:43:24 UTC No. 16511065
>>16511062
Are there some meds you should be on?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:51:13 UTC No. 16511068
>>16510950
>carbon fiber
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 22:06:19 UTC No. 16511083
How big solar panels would need to be for trip to Mars
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 22:25:01 UTC No. 16511089
>>16510730
60 tons is only heavy lift, not super heavy lift
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 22:25:48 UTC No. 16511090
>>16511083
2.5x bigger to compensate for less sunlight.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 22:27:46 UTC No. 16511092
>>16510812
Think of all the wrangling that happens between states for NASA contracts but they're all separate countries and only France has a launch site.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 22:27:55 UTC No. 16511093
>>16510858
Big gains. Allot of good stuff happening in December for my favorite companies.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 22:36:01 UTC No. 16511104
>>16510799
maybe it should be
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 23:25:13 UTC No. 16511151
>>16511139
>>16511141
The hell?
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 23:36:35 UTC No. 16511156
>>16511151
The project summary is most likely for starship construction facilities at the Cape, and the wetlands assessment is probably for a new Falcon RTLS pad since the LC-13 facilities are passing over to Phantom Space and Vaya Space once SpaceX's lease runs out
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 23:39:08 UTC No. 16511159
>>16510369
Yes, I started following SpaceX before they launched a Falcon 1, because I read about them in some popsci magazine (scientific american? I don't remember which)
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 23:42:23 UTC No. 16511161
https://www.floridatoday.com/story/
>The U.S. military successfully launched a hypersonic missile Thursday from Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Department of Defense officials confirmed.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 23:43:10 UTC No. 16511163
>>16510646
ULA BUILDING A TORCH SHIP
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 23:43:45 UTC No. 16511164
>>16510364
> be me
> think space is cool
> still not going anywhere
> realize ancient tech from the 60s might be harder to recreate than the Great Pyramid of Giza
> mind blown
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 23:45:05 UTC No. 16511165
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 23:46:46 UTC No. 16511166
>>16511165
I don't think I had that magazine so probably not that one. All I really remember, or think I remember, is that it was an article about a bunch of different space companies and spacex was just one of them. I think virgin was also covered.
I've tried to track it down before and although I found a few things that might have been it, none really fit my memory.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 00:15:13 UTC No. 16511182
>>16510937
looks much sleeker
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 00:21:58 UTC No. 16511186
>>16510925
>>16510923
Seriously
Retarded
Boosters
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 00:29:17 UTC No. 16511188
>>16510441
hilarious how the guy on the right snapped both his arms
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 00:30:57 UTC No. 16511189
>>16511163
ISV Venture Star was built by ULA in canon
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 00:44:15 UTC No. 16511192
>>16511161
It's funny how plain these missiles look for how spicy they are.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 00:46:00 UTC No. 16511194
SpaceX (Leuders actually lol) just submitted a petition to the county to incorporate Starbase into a city
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 00:49:02 UTC No. 16511196
>>16510942
No. The rocket has been getting uglier.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 00:52:24 UTC No. 16511197
>>16511194
What impact would this have?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 00:52:39 UTC No. 16511198
>>16510942
V2 is among the most beautiful rockets ever made you absolute cretin!
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 00:53:49 UTC No. 16511199
>>16511194
it would mean they can have their own governor and do whatever they want
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 00:58:20 UTC No. 16511206
>>16511194
It's not as crazy as it seems. This is a city with 8 (EIGHT) people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanna
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 01:20:16 UTC No. 16511219
>>16511194
Baste. Starcity? Starville? Starbase is the production site so the town must be named something different
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 01:21:01 UTC No. 16511220
>>16511219
Starigrad
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 01:24:29 UTC No. 16511222
>>16511220
Shouldve gone with Starodrome
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 01:27:10 UTC No. 16511223
>>16511219
The city will be called gateway, and the city on Mars will be called Terminus.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 01:30:08 UTC No. 16511224
>>16511223
Actually genius wtf since when did /sfg/ have triple digit IQ posters?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 01:38:22 UTC No. 16511228
>>16511220
Elongrad
Muskograd
Spacergrad
Stargrad
Marsograd
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 01:41:37 UTC No. 16511230
>>16511223
>city on Mars will be called Terminus.
Bad name.
Sounds like
>dead end
>end of the line
>no future
>despair
>derelict
"Uhm sir are you aware that it's a reference to Foundation"
Nobody cares.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 01:42:28 UTC No. 16511231
>>16511230
>end of the line
Yeah, after the end of your trip to Mars, which starts at the Gateway.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 01:48:49 UTC No. 16511233
>>16511231
The Mars city should be called Gateway because it's just the start.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 01:58:15 UTC No. 16511240
>>16511230
My thoughts exactly
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 02:01:12 UTC No. 16511241
>>16511237
Neat, it's finally out of the crater. Now where to?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 02:15:38 UTC No. 16511253
>>16511219
Elon just called it “the city of Starbase, Texas”
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 02:17:11 UTC No. 16511255
>>16510721
>QRD
>Zap energy is a company made by the team from the University of Washington who developed the concept of the shear flow stabilized Z-pinch for nuclear fusion
>Unlike most fusion design concepts that rely on fuck huge magnets and lasers that are still very difficult to control the plasma, the Z-pinch design utilizes and exterior sheared axial flow that self stabilizes the plasma without the need for any magnets or lasers
>So not only do you get a seemingly easy way to create nuclear fusion, you're able to do so without massive power going into it which makes net gain even easier to achieve and also allows the reactor to be compact and scalable
>This is /sfg/ related because this design can be easily turned into a rocket engine that gives you genuine torch drive performance without any fancy sci fi tech - We're talking Earth - Mars within a week kind of travel times with this while still having a lot of payload
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 02:20:04 UTC No. 16511258
>>16511254
Evidence? Proofs?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 02:22:22 UTC No. 16511260
>>16511258
There isn't any. Low gravity research on reproductive cycles does not exist, even with mouse models, and has never been conducted.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 02:32:44 UTC No. 16511263
>>16511253
wtf, he doesnt even call the place starbase, he calls it 'gateway to mars'
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 03:29:49 UTC No. 16511278
>>16511254
Even if that's true, pregnant women and children just live in Das Kinderspinner
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 03:30:35 UTC No. 16511279
>>16511263
Thats the launch complex’s name ya dip
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 03:33:58 UTC No. 16511281
>>16511278
>Das Kinderspinner
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 03:34:57 UTC No. 16511282
>>16511254
>>16511278
not just the pregnant women. all colonists on bodies with less than earth surface gravity will spend all their time in spin gravity at 1.5G. when they visit earth they will be viewed rightly as ubermensch
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 03:35:54 UTC No. 16511283
>>16511281
>It spins Kinder
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 03:45:37 UTC No. 16511288
>>16511279
>>16511263
It's not even a name. "Gateway To Mars" is a slogan.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 03:47:28 UTC No. 16511290
>>16511282
tard strength will get a whole new meaning...
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 03:48:45 UTC No. 16511291
When will furry space babes become a real thing bros?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 03:58:48 UTC No. 16511300
*strangles you*
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 04:00:12 UTC No. 16511302
*glomps you*
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 04:18:29 UTC No. 16511318
>>16511291
soon™
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 04:18:49 UTC No. 16511319
>>16511241
How far will it go before the wheels shred to pieces?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 04:23:28 UTC No. 16511323
>>16511302
Women these days don't know how to glomp anymore. It's a damn shame.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 04:43:11 UTC No. 16511334
>>16511255
>Blasted thing squirms at high velocity like an angry snake being stepped on
Why do boomers write this way? This sort of quirk chungus fashion?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 04:46:33 UTC No. 16511335
>>16511334
>Why do boomers write this way?
An adolescence spent reading pulp scifi.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 04:46:53 UTC No. 16511336
>>16511237
wow, it's really weird how all those rocks are just piled up on that one spot on the hill huh
that feature stands out significantly compared to the rest of the landscape
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 04:50:55 UTC No. 16511338
>>16511336
That'd be the rim of the impact crater.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 05:20:07 UTC No. 16511346
>>16511194
>>16511219
Renaming the place Starbase is stupid. Fine to call the facility that but I like having some silly little name like Boca Chica attached to such an important place. And if you have to rename it, just go with Kopernik Shores, it actually used to be called that and it's relevant.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 05:20:30 UTC No. 16511347
>>16511255
So it's just another Helion?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 05:43:30 UTC No. 16511353
>>16511336
there are rocks everywhere, they are just buried in dust
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 05:53:57 UTC No. 16511364
>>16510849
can somebody remind me what the fuck happened to the xEMU and the $1 billion we spent on it (yes I pay taxes to this godforsaken government)
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 05:57:03 UTC No. 16511368
>>16511346
anon, you are retarded
they are not trying to rename Boca Chica
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 05:57:12 UTC No. 16511369
We’ve been stuck on this mudball for so long…
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 06:01:24 UTC No. 16511371
>>16511228
So would that make the first lava tube city Undergrad?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 06:36:33 UTC No. 16511392
>>16511364
That Axiom suit itself is apparently heavily based on XEMU.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 06:49:25 UTC No. 16511398
>>16510705
I kinda like the way the fuel shoots out the side bit underneath.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 06:53:32 UTC No. 16511401
>>16510730
I hate Europe so fucking much it's unreal. We used to be the pioneers and innovators. The fuck happened? We need a wake-up call ASAP.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 07:05:05 UTC No. 16511406
>>16511371
>Undergrad
Sounds like some eurojank RPG
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 07:19:11 UTC No. 16511415
>>16511401
The EU is simply not a viable political entity. Europe should not be unified to that degree, it causes serious problems.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 07:23:37 UTC No. 16511416
>>16510730
>third iteration of a proposed pathfinder study
>third iteration
>of a proposal
>for a STUDY
>not a rocket
>just a study about the logistics of possibly maybe potentially eventually tentatively hypothetically building one
My deepest apologies to anyone who has to deal with being European.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 07:34:57 UTC No. 16511420
>>16511368
Yes not the entire village, but if they incorporate Starbase it won't be launching from Boca Chica anymore and I think that's stupid for the reasons I presented.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 07:41:45 UTC No. 16511424
>>16511346
>>16511368
Boca Chica isn't an incorporated city, and it doesn't appear that it's even used in the mailing addresses of the Starbase facilities (rather, that appears to be Brownsville), so I'm not sure that the move to incorporate a Starbase city would really take the Boca Chica name away from anything. I expect that Boca Chica Blvd, Boca Chica Beach, Boca Chica State Park, and even Boca Chica Village, for example, would continue to be known by those names.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 07:57:26 UTC No. 16511430
>>16510727
>subjecting yourself to current-day television
My condolences
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 07:59:06 UTC No. 16511433
>>16510705
>deproy cerebratory raunch confetti
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 08:13:42 UTC No. 16511441
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18674
>It will get longer and improve in performance in every way over the next 12 months
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 08:15:17 UTC No. 16511442
>>16511346
Desu Starbase sounds cringe. Tryhard futurism. Boca Chica, South Padre, Brownsville, etc are unironically fine
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 08:23:24 UTC No. 16511445
>>16511442
I prefer Kopernik Shores
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 08:27:50 UTC No. 16511448
i thought we agreed on jamestown
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 08:33:32 UTC No. 16511450
alright which one of you fucking retards is posting /sfg/ screencaps on X
https://x.com/AndrewHard96304/statu
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 08:34:45 UTC No. 16511452
>>16511450
If I had to guess, I'd say it was some fellow called Andrew Harding.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 08:37:53 UTC No. 16511455
>>16511450
sup andrew
cool self advert
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 08:41:36 UTC No. 16511460
>>16511139
>>16511141
doesn't SpaceX already have a substantial area reserved for Starfactory Florida construction?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 08:51:54 UTC No. 16511465
>>16511450
>1 hour ago
>132 followers
>not even a reply to another xeet
Sorry, Andy, but I have to agree with the other replies you've gotten.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 08:57:36 UTC No. 16511471
>>16511450
Why did it have to be one of mine, too? Go fuck yourself.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 09:00:02 UTC No. 16511473
>>16511450
I was about to say it's kind of notable that Handmer follows you but he apparently follows nearly 4000 fucking accounts, holy shit.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 09:04:35 UTC No. 16511475
>>16511465
a mutual of mine was the one guy who reposted it, trailing numbers in usernames is for faggots
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 09:27:52 UTC No. 16511490
>>16511237
>white people actually want to move there
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 09:28:58 UTC No. 16511491
>>16511490
>see an untouched planet full of useful minerals
>seethe impotently about white people
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 09:39:10 UTC No. 16511495
>>16511450
eurosisters, our reponse?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 09:57:36 UTC No. 16511501
>>16511450
>this is the minecraft autist
>the retard that posts on /pol/
>the guy against rocket girls
literally the number one cancer of this general
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 10:06:01 UTC No. 16511508
>>16511024
OST was always retarded.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 10:09:09 UTC No. 16511510
>>16511230
It should be called Ultor.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 10:18:39 UTC No. 16511517
>>16511230
Based persuasion chad knows what's up
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 10:46:35 UTC No. 16511533
What the FUCK is bozos waiting for
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 11:15:21 UTC No. 16511538
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 11:19:35 UTC No. 16511540
>nsf had a live stream with an astronaut on the iss
>it didnt even get 30k views
the absolute state of nasa
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 11:51:20 UTC No. 16511552
>>16511533
Graditim Gradociter
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 12:24:03 UTC No. 16511564
>>16511475
>a mutual
a dirty Mooslem
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 12:25:03 UTC No. 16511568
>>16511540
NSF is not NASA, hope this helps
nobody wants to watch those dirty twinks
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 14:19:57 UTC No. 16511608
>>16511475
>delta
Oh, right, that faggot.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 14:34:09 UTC No. 16511620
>>16511604
>4.2m
toy rocket
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 14:41:14 UTC No. 16511623
>>16511620
4.2m is basically half of 9m. that means starship is two times as toy as this
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 14:58:28 UTC No. 16511628
>>16511623
>two times
retard
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:00:41 UTC No. 16511629
>>16511628
please provide mathematical proof that I am incorrect
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:05:11 UTC No. 16511631
>>16511629
Twice the radius means four times the area and volume.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:09:30 UTC No. 16511634
/sfg/ - sixth grade math general
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:10:32 UTC No. 16511635
>>16511631
dumbass we're not talking about gay shit like volume. Only thing that matter sfor rocket are radius. Hope this cleared things up!
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:11:01 UTC No. 16511636
>>16511634
That would be /sgmg/
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:11:23 UTC No. 16511637
>>16511197
More power to run the city as they see fit and enforce some city zoning law as they see fit.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:12:20 UTC No. 16511638
>>16511637
Zoning is nimby cancer
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:12:21 UTC No. 16511639
>>16511604
diagonal orthogrid? isn't that the worst of both worlds?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:14:29 UTC No. 16511640
>>16511635
Area is much more important, because it affects drag.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:16:03 UTC No. 16511641
>>16511640
I don't care.
4.2m = toy rocket
9m = 2x toy rocket
it's that simple
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:16:45 UTC No. 16511642
>>16511635
>Only thing that matter sfor rocket are radius.
>rockets
>radius
>Only thing that matter
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:16:51 UTC No. 16511643
>Even Falcon 1 first stage had a mass ratio of over 95% propellant by mass. My ex-boss at TRW told me there is now way a small rocket can have that mass ratio. I said Bob, we have weighed it, its not theoretical. Being hard core about mass is more important than being hard core about Isp
>I've heard other rocket execs declare that anything over 90% is impossible.
No way oldspace boomers are that stupid
https://x.com/lrocket/status/186737
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:16:56 UTC No. 16511644
>>16511638
Zoning in this case is particularly in their own backyard, so they want to have better control over the lands to run the company better. Also, incorporating a city like Starbase prob gives them more access to financial incentives that unincorporated backwater area are ineligible for, like road funding, business growth, tax reliefs, etc
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:18:24 UTC No. 16511647
>>16511642
height is just vertical radius. Are you understanding?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:18:54 UTC No. 16511648
https://x.com/isro/status/186751749
> A significant milestone for the Gaganyaan Program! The first solid motor segment has been moved from the production plant to the launch complex, marking a key step towards the HLVM3 G1 flight. India's human spaceflight dreams are taking shape!
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:20:13 UTC No. 16511649
>>16511620
Falcon 9 only has a diameter of 3.7 meters. Hyperbola-3 is another one of the Chinese falcon-clones
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:20:20 UTC No. 16511650
>>16511647
>height is just vertical radius.
ok you got a kek out of me
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:20:38 UTC No. 16511653
>>16511642
I notice you didn't actually refute it though
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:22:01 UTC No. 16511656
>>16511653
because this anon already said it >>16511640
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 15:27:38 UTC No. 16511658
>>16511640
>drag
wow look at fag "noo we cant fly cuz air too spicy waah waah lets go dress up in space drag instead"
NGMIT mind set. Instead of searching problem, find solution: Vaccum bomb.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 16:01:03 UTC No. 16511680
>>16511648
>Indian spacecraft called Gagonnaan
The jokes write themselves
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 16:16:42 UTC No. 16511692
>>16510858
https://x.com/stoke_space/status/18
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 16:21:35 UTC No. 16511697
>>16511011
They put together the test article pretty fast, if testing goes well they could maybe squeeze a launch in at the end of next year.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 16:25:12 UTC No. 16511700
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 16:43:24 UTC No. 16511706
https://www.nasa.gov/moontomarsarch
What is the point of this
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 16:46:16 UTC No. 16511707
>>16511706
Theoretically, launch from the moon is a lot cheaper in ∆V then launching from earth.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 17:01:07 UTC No. 16511718
>>16511707
Why dont we just launch everything from the Moon then instead of Earth?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 17:03:00 UTC No. 16511720
>>16511718
it's cost prohibitive to run a spaceport there
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 17:04:37 UTC No. 16511722
>>16511707
So whens the first launch from the moon happening?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 17:04:55 UTC No. 16511723
>>16511718
We don't have the architecture to manufacture fuel or launch from there. It's all described in the link you asked about, did you just not read any of it?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 17:06:51 UTC No. 16511725
>>16511722
July 21st 1969
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 17:08:13 UTC No. 16511726
>>16511702
If this means >we can stop using "heritage" in our spacecraft designs I'm happy to hear it
For the average person that reads "failure IS an option"
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 17:09:30 UTC No. 16511727
>>16511725
Okay smartass, when is the first launch of a lunar rocket made by lunatics made using in-situ lunar resources gonna launch?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 17:10:59 UTC No. 16511729
>>16511565
How to obtain JAXA waifu?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 17:13:25 UTC No. 16511731
>>16511729
Watch Clear
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 17:14:15 UTC No. 16511733
>>16511692
>>16511700
I'm stoked for this
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 17:14:42 UTC No. 16511734
I'm stoking my cock rn
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 17:15:45 UTC No. 16511738
>>16511636
I mean, /fat/ is fat loss general on /fit/ so I don't see the problem
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 17:18:32 UTC No. 16511741
Rename this general to sexing frocket gorls
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 17:26:52 UTC No. 16511745
>>16511730
I've very gormed tyvm
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 17:43:01 UTC No. 16511752
>>16511706
NASA might actually be fucking retarded
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 17:48:51 UTC No. 16511753
>>16511745
>I've very gormed tyvm
If you were you'd have written ''I'm very gormed tyvm''
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 17:57:22 UTC No. 16511761
https://youtu.be/NzZC7LNfON8
holy shit they are whizzing around us
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 18:00:51 UTC No. 16511762
>>16511761
on god?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 18:22:06 UTC No. 16511774
>>16511772
starship can't leave LEO
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 18:30:17 UTC No. 16511780
>>16511772
>61 refillings to land on the Moon
man
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 18:33:05 UTC No. 16511783
>>16511780
61 FULL TANK REFUELINGS
meaning OVER 360 TANKER FLIGHTS
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 18:35:40 UTC No. 16511785
>>16511783
ELON WILL FIX IT
PUT ALL YOUR FAITH IN GOD ELON
DO NOT QUESTION THE ALMGHTY ELON
AMEN
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 18:40:29 UTC No. 16511787
>>16511780
>>16511783
>the rapid reusability architecture uses rapid reusability
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 18:43:05 UTC No. 16511789
>>16511787
despite falcon's over 100 flights this year alone and starship's design to surpass that. I still can't wrap my head around the idea of more than 2 rockets being launched in 6 months
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 18:44:27 UTC No. 16511790
>>16511789
then you'll be overwhelmed when they start launching 100 in a bad month
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 18:46:53 UTC No. 16511791
>>16511790
1200 rockets a year? but that's not possible.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 18:48:52 UTC No. 16511793
>>16511791
yet, with 10 ships you only need 10 launches per ship per month, and that's low balling it. the only thing in Elon's way now is bureaucracy
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 18:53:52 UTC No. 16511796
>>16511787
>over 9000 refuels to get to mercury
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 18:55:00 UTC No. 16511799
>>16511793
they have 1 starship pad
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 18:55:53 UTC No. 16511800
>>16511799
what's preventing them from building let's say, 10 pads?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 18:57:23 UTC No. 16511801
>>16511800
beetles
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 18:57:55 UTC No. 16511802
>>16511796
I find it a little far fetched that they'll use starship for anything beyond the Moon and Mars (maybe maybe Titan?), by the time the system proves it's reliability they'l probably start building ships in orbit
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 18:58:49 UTC No. 16511803
>>16511800
It took 5 years to build 1. it costs 1000x more than the rocket. they are in no hurry to build more
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:01:03 UTC No. 16511805
>>16511802
Starship needs to be used to construct the first Spacedock.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:04:53 UTC No. 16511806
>>16511803
Well the first one will always be the most expensive, I wager they'll standardize a lot of the construction, and yeah they aren't in a rush but I doubt they stay with only 1 (soon to be 2) sites for too long.
I'm saying that 1200 launches a year is nothing crazy for this architecture not that they are rushing to do it, and that one day we'll probably see 100 or more launches in a single month
>>16511801
read the last word >>16511793
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:07:56 UTC No. 16511808
>>16511803
lol, cost is no issue whatsoever, it was always regulation or other reasons
like no point in spamming multiple pads if you only use one, especially if you are still iterating on the basic things
maybe if they had no problems at all with EPA and so on they could have built multiple pads previously, but would that really have made things quicker? SpaceX is very capital efficient, just like all Musk companies
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:10:20 UTC No. 16511809
>>16511800
Ask the pad in 39A that has been in limbo since forever
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:11:22 UTC No. 16511810
>>16511772
smoothbrain here, what exactly is meant by 16+ fillings? wouldn't it be full already after the first few?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:11:35 UTC No. 16511811
Why did they build the second tower the exact same height as the first tower when they know starship v2 and v3 are stupidly taller?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:13:35 UTC No. 16511814
>>16511810
No, I think it takes up to 24 refuelings to fully refuel a starship in orbit.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:15:32 UTC No. 16511817
>>16511809
read the last word >>16511793
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:18:07 UTC No. 16511821
>>16511818
No they're not, they know exactly what they're doing here.
If you're confused they just have a different goal than you think they do.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:18:36 UTC No. 16511822
>>16511811
the second tower is slightly taller
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:18:38 UTC No. 16511823
>>16511818
everyday I thank God for Elon and that we won't need to wait till 2050 to land a two man team on Mars
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:18:45 UTC No. 16511824
>>16511821
Their goal is making powerpoint presentations, not exploring space.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:19:23 UTC No. 16511826
>>16511824
And getting paid handsomely to do it!
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:24:39 UTC No. 16511833
>>16511814
that makes sense, but given starship has ~1,500,000 kg of propellant full, and can deliver 100-150 t to LEO, if all the payload was prop wouldnt it be more like 10-15 launches?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:34:51 UTC No. 16511841
its been dead af this week
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:35:10 UTC No. 16511842
>>16511836
>start making other plans
Who is this person and why is what they say worthy of attention by anybody whatsoever?
I've never seen this user's posts outside of /sfg/.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:35:21 UTC No. 16511844
>>16511841
Then make it less dead
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:35:52 UTC No. 16511845
>>16511836
Tesla doesnt even have a single working car and you think.they are going to mars
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:38:13 UTC No. 16511849
>>16511842
it's just one of the lolcows that are fun to laugh at
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:38:52 UTC No. 16511850
>>16511846
this is crazy. they cant do this? flight 7 isnt even orbital. they cant do this
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:40:19 UTC No. 16511851
>>16511846
Holy shit, are they going to send a shipping container to space?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:40:31 UTC No. 16511852
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:41:56 UTC No. 16511854
>>16511850
it's just promotional bananas with a different sticker
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:42:38 UTC No. 16511855
>>16511854
Sticker outgassing will alter the banana's orbit.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:42:52 UTC No. 16511856
>>16511854
Then why does only one of the many shipping containers have the special livery?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:43:52 UTC No. 16511857
>>16511846
>https://x.com/Chiquita/status/1867
They didnt even launch a real banana last flight. It was a stuffed animal toy. They know they couldnt keep a real banana alive during the flight. So I assume this is just full of stuffed animal toys and is going on Falcon 9
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:44:11 UTC No. 16511858
>>16511854
yeah probably, a bit too soon to be for launch 7, they'd be rotten by then
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:45:05 UTC No. 16511860
>>16511856
It's AI generated
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 19:49:23 UTC No. 16511863
>>16510567
>>16510608
>>16510609
because every launch by the glorious people's republic is deserving of celebration, complete with confetti!
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:02:55 UTC No. 16511877
>>16511873
we can be exited for only so many static fires man
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:05:15 UTC No. 16511879
>>16511877
>>16511873
Give me a STACK dammit
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:08:50 UTC No. 16511886
>>16511846
WE ARE BAAN
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:09:13 UTC No. 16511887
>>16510608
>>16510609
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V97
NTO/UDMH is shelf-stable at room temperatures, but Chinese launch sites in inner Mongolia can see extreme temperature shifts that could push the propellant outside of these limits. There's also some mechanical systems onboard that don't seem to do well with severe cold
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:16:56 UTC No. 16511894
>>16511836
>fission power
Hello, based department? NASA doing space nuclear power research and helping nuketech companies build reactors for SpaceX to buy and launch would save huge amounts of time and labor for powering the colony.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:19:37 UTC No. 16511897
>>16511879
this fucking image lmfao
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:23:35 UTC No. 16511901
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:29:12 UTC No. 16511908
>tesla/cybertruck is just R&D for electric mars buggies
>starlink is just R&D for high speed earth-mars communication
>both of these fund starship and the overall vision for humans to mars
Elon really is a genius. He knows investments eventually pay off, even if it means waiting decades to see the returns, but is not afraid to fast-track things and get shit done. What would we do without SpaceX?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:29:58 UTC No. 16511909
launch stream co-hosted by astronauts on the iss
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:30:09 UTC No. 16511910
>>16511908
Not much. We'd have been totally unable to oppose Russia in Ukraine as well.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:30:59 UTC No. 16511912
>>16511908
earth is just R&D for martian civilization
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:33:44 UTC No. 16511913
>>16511908
>He still thinks cybertuck is an exoskeleton structure
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:34:50 UTC No. 16511916
Plasmadynes will work and all NPP cucks will be left with nothing. It has been seen.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:35:17 UTC No. 16511918
>>16511908
you're an idiot
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:35:53 UTC No. 16511919
>>16511718
because we would have to actually build shit on the moon first which requires it's own costly investment of dV
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:36:14 UTC No. 16511920
>>16511879
kek
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:37:07 UTC No. 16511921
>>16511783
how many cow farts worth of methane is that?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:37:52 UTC No. 16511922
>>16511918
Why
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:39:06 UTC No. 16511925
>>16511908
Mars? R&D for the Imperium of Man that will explore the galaxies thanks to QI-equipped starships.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:44:41 UTC No. 16511933
https://x.com/FutureJurvetson/statu
>It makes 4.7 million terminals per year, and growing. One subsection is the largest printed circuit board factory in America.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:45:30 UTC No. 16511935
>>16511916
>Plasmadynes
qrd?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:46:12 UTC No. 16511936
>>16511908
You now remember Boring Company.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:46:54 UTC No. 16511937
>>16511908
>implying tesla vehicles would survive Mars
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:48:16 UTC No. 16511940
>>16511937
Prob not, but they got enough R/D centers and budget to produce couple hundreds/thousands of vehicles for Mars on the dime.
Instead of billion dollar tiny rovers, they could contract out to Tesla for $1M a car for space rated vehicles.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:49:17 UTC No. 16511941
>>16511936
why did these guys make a flamethrower again?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:49:19 UTC No. 16511942
>>16511935
https://docs.google.com/document/d/
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:51:28 UTC No. 16511944
>>16511846
holy fuck
this shit is bananas
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:52:58 UTC No. 16511945
>>16511941
They didn't, it's a glorified BBQ lighter shaped like a gun. I presume it was made for meme purposes. There are real flamethrowers you can buy if you want one that actually throws flame, they're legal in all but two US states last time I checked.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:53:11 UTC No. 16511946
>>16511846
you VILL farm ze bananas on mars und you vill laik it!
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:54:12 UTC No. 16511947
>>16511858
incorrect, bananas are actually picked before they are ripe so they can ripen during transportation
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:54:38 UTC No. 16511948
>>16511941
Either to roast mole-men or to raise funds from fanboys.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 21:05:17 UTC No. 16511960
>>16511957
>Pratap Pullammanappallil
fuck off
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 21:12:36 UTC No. 16511965
>>16511957
Methane from poo is usable energy.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 21:29:49 UTC No. 16511984
https://x.com/Alexphysics13/status/
>The Space Launch Delta 30 has issued a notice of intent to prepare an Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) authorizing changes to Falcon launch operations at Vandenberg.
>The changes include F9 and FH launches from SLC-6 and up to 100 launches per year.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 21:31:52 UTC No. 16511985
>>16511957
>indian literally studying poo science
cant make this shit up
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 21:33:14 UTC No. 16511988
>>16511833
>and can deliver 100-150 t to LEO
compeltely fabricated Even Elon says its 30.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 21:46:20 UTC No. 16512001
>>16511944
>this ship is bananas!
fixed
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 21:46:56 UTC No. 16512002
Reminder, a 2 megawatt power on Mars can be done with $1 million dollar worth of off the shelf solar panels.
300 watt x 6666 panels = 2MW
6666 x $150 per panel = $1 million.
Assuming they use a thin film or something, with 10kg per panel in weight, thats ~67 ton. 1/2 Starship worth of capacity.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 21:54:56 UTC No. 16512004
>>16511886
kek
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 21:55:12 UTC No. 16512005
boring vandy Starlink launch in a minute
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 21:55:44 UTC No. 16512006
>>16512002
A Mars base will need much more than 2MW.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 21:55:59 UTC No. 16512007
>>16512005
delayed stream again?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 21:56:24 UTC No. 16512008
>>16512007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qO
Looks like it started on time
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 21:57:00 UTC No. 16512009
why is it only 22 starlinks
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 21:57:34 UTC No. 16512010
I guess they finally cleared out the Minuteman GSE they didn't want anyone getting a look at
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:00:50 UTC No. 16512015
>>16512009
Starlink 2 is bigger
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:02:25 UTC No. 16512016
>>16512006
Reminder that we STILL have nothing on large scale ISRU
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:02:47 UTC No. 16512017
>>16512015
YOUR DADS COCK IS BIGGER.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:03:54 UTC No. 16512018
>>16512015
have they just swapped over to 100% V2s?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:08:23 UTC No. 16512020
>>16512006
ISS uses ~90kw.
2MW will power the initial colony that will power ~first dozen or so humans maybe even first 100 humans.
Colonists can fund $1M and 1 Starship every 2 years to expand on the power budget.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:15:04 UTC No. 16512022
>>16512020
Inb4 democrats ban solar power on Mars to crew over Elon Musk's plan to colonize Mars.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:17:51 UTC No. 16512024
>>16512022
>Making things up to get angry about
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:19:14 UTC No. 16512026
https://x.com/spacesudoer/status/18
Future NASA admin speech
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:19:28 UTC No. 16512027
>>16512025
proxima centauri according to my calculations
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:19:46 UTC No. 16512028
>>16512025
the centauri system is just too interesting not to check out
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:23:53 UTC No. 16512030
>>16511988
how? thats less than falcon heavy. what would be the point of starship if that was the case? no way its cheaper even with full reusability.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:25:28 UTC No. 16512032
>>16512025
Proxima, Barnard's Star, and L21185 all have confirmed exoplanets. Proxima B has about the same mass as Earth and is inside the local habitable zone, although it's almost certain to be tidally locked
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:29:26 UTC No. 16512036
>>16511894
you're way more optmistic than me anon, hope you're right
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:30:44 UTC No. 16512038
>>16511947
but 2 months?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:33:34 UTC No. 16512041
>>16512027
I'd be too paranoid about being stuck in a water bubble to enter the pool, should the rotation suddenly stop
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:36:09 UTC No. 16512043
>>16512041
Just breaststroke out of it?
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:40:18 UTC No. 16512046
Proxima. 4.2 ly is very doable. I was just playing around with the numbers. if you accelerate at 1g (tolerable for humans) for a year you get close to lightspeed and will have travelled 0.5 ly. then coast for 3.2 ly at near to c for 3.2 years. When you are 0.5 ly away decelerate at 1g for another year arriving at proxima centauri after 5.2 years.
What kind of engine could accelerate continuously for a year I dont know.
For example, with a 100 T spacecraft it would only need 1000 kN of thrust. A single raptor could do it on 50% but would consume 25,000 T of propellant over a year, twice as much for slowing down. So with chemical engines you would need 500 times more propellant than the mass of the spacecraft itself.
Some experimental nuclear engines or laser propulsion would be necessary.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:41:01 UTC No. 16512047
>>16512043
I mean, I do like to stroke breasts but I don't see how that helps
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:41:19 UTC No. 16512048
>>16512046
meant for
>>16512025
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:43:43 UTC No. 16512051
>>16512046
one word: VD drive
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:44:00 UTC No. 16512053
>>16512041
nigga if you can't swim you shouldn't get into the pool in the first place!
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:44:24 UTC No. 16512054
>>16512046
>25,000 T
whoops. I meant 10 million T of propellant per year. divided when I should have multiplied. so ignore that part, it just makes the case for chemical rockets worse.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:45:11 UTC No. 16512056
>>16512046
>What kind of engine could accelerate continuously for a year I dont know.
>Some experimental nuclear engines
We could've colonized Proxima in the 70's
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:45:46 UTC No. 16512057
>>16512046
>Proxima. 4.2 ly is very doable. I was just playing around with the numbers. if you accelerate at 1g (tolerable for humans) for a year you get close to lightspeed and will have travelled 0.5 ly. then coast for 3.2 ly at near to c for 3.2 years. When you are 0.5 ly away decelerate at 1g for another year arriving at proxima centauri after 5.2 years.
Basically the mission profile used in Avatar. But to pull it off you need a torch ship.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:46:01 UTC No. 16512058
>>16512054
>10 million T of propellant per year
don't worry. Grande Elon Elon "OoM" Musk will figure it out.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:47:18 UTC No. 16512059
>>16512046
>What kind of engine could accelerate continuously for a year I dont know.
Laser sails/magnetosails
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:47:42 UTC No. 16512060
>>16512046
>>16512057
here's the solution
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:48:25 UTC No. 16512061
>>16512060
>kills you
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:49:06 UTC No. 16512062
>>16512061
>conventional rocket mentality
NGMI
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:52:36 UTC No. 16512065
>>16512061
>Explosives, chemical to launch a rocket
Safe and effective
>Explosives, nuclear to launch a rocket
NOOO YOU CANT DO THAT BECAUSE BECAUSE YOU CANT
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:53:54 UTC No. 16512070
>>16512060
NSWR is better.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:54:16 UTC No. 16512071
>>16511818
>one of the first thing Issaacman does once confirmed
>is to order all docs to reference existing and in development rockets and ships and their pictures across all NASA research documentation
one can dream
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:55:08 UTC No. 16512073
>>16512070
it has all the problems that people claim the Orion drive has
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:56:45 UTC No. 16512077
>>16511957
I mean, this is basically Mark Watney Protocol. Turn shit into gold.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:58:27 UTC No. 16512078
>>16512073
No?
>the fuel for Orion is literally bombs
the fuel for NSWRs is a solution of enriched uranium which would be very difficult to turn into bombs without killing yourself first, even if you had all the technical expertise to make bombs in the first place
>the thrust with Orion comes in massive discrete explosions
the thrust with NSWRs is continuous.
>but muh radiation
hippy nonsense
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:59:24 UTC No. 16512079
>>16512002
For 1M, you can build like a 100 NASA Sterling KiloPower reactors, getting you to 1MW and will work day or night, sandstorm or no sandstorm, and will need 1/4 the square meter surface required by solar panels. Solar and battery will be useful on Mars, but fission will be the predominant power source IF the new administration doesn't devolve into faggot retard squabbling.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 23:01:09 UTC No. 16512083
>>16512025
Wolf 359, so we can lay to rest that there are no Borg cubes in waiting, while simultaneously sending another arc ship to Alpha & Proxima Centauri, followed by Gliese 65 and Barnard's Star. Ross 154, Sirius, and WISE, are the next batches, and Ross 248, Luhman 16, and Lalande 21185 are the last batches of ships to go out.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 23:03:31 UTC No. 16512086
>>16512079
>IF
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 23:03:31 UTC No. 16512087
>>16512078
Yes
>the fuel for NSWRs is a solution of enriched uranium
that could go critical inside the tanks, also any leaks would be catastrophic
>the thrust with NSWRs is continuous.
so is Orion's, that's the reason for the 2 stage pusher plate
>hippy nonsense
for Orion? yeah. For NSWR? the exhaust is like spraying chernobyl everywhere
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 23:03:44 UTC No. 16512089
>>16512030
those stats on falcon heavy are also fiction btw. Falcon heavy can't lost more than 20T due to structural weakness of the vehicle. This is why they never use falcon heavy for Starlink or heavy payloads, just for high energy trajectories.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 23:04:38 UTC No. 16512092
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 23:04:52 UTC No. 16512094
>>16512083
>Gliese 65
This thing needs a new name, there's already too many Glieses.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 23:06:30 UTC No. 16512098
>>16512087
>fuel could go critical inside the tanks, also any leaks would be catastrophic
1. That's not a criticism of Orion.
2. Fortune favors the bold.
>continuous thrust with a 2 stage pusher plate
You can't make shock absorbers good enough to turn discrete nuclear blasts into continuous thrust.
>For NSWR? the exhaust is like spraying chernobyl everywhere
God hates a coward.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 23:06:41 UTC No. 16512099
>>16511984
Easterly launches when? There's no major cities, or even decent sized municipalities out there, and Falcon 9 is reliable enough for it.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 23:11:25 UTC No. 16512107
>>16512098
the worst leak that could even happen in a Orion drive is one of the nukes not detonating and just go floating away, the chain reaction could happen inside the tank on the NSWR
>You can't make shock absorbers good enough to turn discrete nuclear blasts into continuous thrust.
1.yes you can
2.see your point "2."
>God hates a coward.
Touché
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 23:14:30 UTC No. 16512111
>>16512062
>>16512065
oh would you look at that, the corpses think they have something important to say
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 23:17:12 UTC No. 16512115
>>16512111
>radiation
just add shielding, it can lift 1M lbs
>"gutted like a trout"
statistically unlikely unless you put retards to man the ship
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 23:17:32 UTC No. 16512116
we need to STOP elon from creating a company town. we outlawed them for a reason.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 23:23:36 UTC No. 16512119
>>16512107
What if a nuke went off a second sooner than it was meant to, for whatever reason? At 2 seconds after ejection instead of 5 or whatever.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 23:25:25 UTC No. 16512120
>>16512116
TOO LATE HAHAHA
faggot
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 23:31:42 UTC No. 16512126
>>16512119
it would be extremely painful...
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 23:32:40 UTC No. 16512128
>>16512119
that's like asking what if a 40mm explodes before leaving the barrel or a JDAM explodes just after being dropped, it's a non issue that we've solved during ww2, there's a millions ways to guarantee that the nuke will go off when expected, my favorite solution is a rotation based arming fuse with an internal clock
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 23:35:00 UTC No. 16512129
>>16512128
>non issue
>solved
ohnononono, he thinks military equipment doesn't malfunction constantly? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 23:37:16 UTC No. 16512132
>>16512129
for the average meat sack? yeah, now show me the last time an airbust bomb drop resulted in the loss of the aircraft because it went off before expected
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Dec 2024 23:55:41 UTC No. 16512152
>>16511984
>Falcon Heavy is a 'high energy' rocket
>you don't do GTO launches from Vandenberg due to inclination
Genuinely curious what sort of spicy payloads the USSF is gonna be launching that need a FH but aren't geostationary.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 00:02:41 UTC No. 16512156
>>16512088
I’ll run for mayor
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 00:03:58 UTC No. 16512157
>>16512025
The Sun (Sol) system should be explored
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 00:09:10 UTC No. 16512159
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 00:09:26 UTC No. 16512160
fuck sun
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 00:13:31 UTC No. 16512162
Imagine the cock-and-ball torture of a lifestyle being a smart guy within Roscosmos, wanting to do something amazing, but knowing absolutely fuck all is ever going to happen.
Your country can technically build super heavy lift rockets and deep space missions, it’s just never going to happen. And when it does, it gets delayed like 15 years only for an upper stage to explode right at the very end of the flight and ruin the whole thing after years of transit
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 00:17:52 UTC No. 16512164
>>16512162
>smart guy
>Roscosmos
kek
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 00:21:39 UTC No. 16512167
>>16512115
>radiation
jewish scam
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 00:33:01 UTC No. 16512173
https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMusk
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 00:37:28 UTC No. 16512178
>>16512152
Molnya/Tundra orbital-supremacy killsats to fuck with the russkies would be my bet.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 00:43:07 UTC No. 16512181
>>16512178
pic/link related:
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 00:53:42 UTC No. 16512184
>>16512181
it was a very strange choice for their first art to be of a goofy-aah shuttle which doesnt exist.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 00:59:02 UTC No. 16512188
>>16511810
>>16511814
that really depends on the payload capacity of Starship and the boiloff
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:00:20 UTC No. 16512189
>>16512188
both atrocious btw. t. knower of people on hls
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:03:12 UTC No. 16512191
>>16512152
"High Energy" in this case is defined as having the ability to put a 17,000 kg payload into a 830 km sun-synchronous orbit. That's the big KH-11 Hubble cousin spy satellites. I'm honestly not sure how much of a need there is for this class of payloads since the NRO is way more interested in small constellation payloads these days and we haven't launched a Kennen family payload since 2021.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:08:19 UTC No. 16512197
>>16512128
>some punk kid gets at the starship controls and spins it because it's "a neat trick"
>every propulsion bomb onboard is now armed
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:09:03 UTC No. 16512198
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0x
Falcon 9 launch from SLC-40 with a presumed GPS III payload has been scrubbed due to weather issues. The next launch up is the Kairos test flight attempt #2 in just under an hour
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:10:40 UTC No. 16512201
>>16512198
>open livestream
>SCRUB
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:11:37 UTC No. 16512203
>>16512198
also the next RocketLab HASTE mission went up on time at 8pm from Wallops.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:11:48 UTC No. 16512204
>>16512197
>cringe unrealistic scenario
>doesn't know how rotation fuses work
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:12:51 UTC No. 16512206
>>16512204
>he doesn't know
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:13:07 UTC No. 16512207
>>16512203
and next up is the KAIROS mission (take 2!) from Japan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BB
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:16:45 UTC No. 16512210
>>16512191
perhaps there is a smaller sat in the works and FH will deliver multiple at a time
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:17:27 UTC No. 16512211
>>16512206
can't say I caught that
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:27:26 UTC No. 16512217
>>16512184
That strongly implies it does exist.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:35:03 UTC No. 16512223
https://x.com/GewoonLukas_/status/1
>Rocket Lab has launched their HASTE rocket with the "STONEHENGE" payload just weeks after the last HASTE launch! Their next launch will be a regular Electron, and is scheduled for December 17th at 14:00 UTC. This mission, named "Owl The Way Up", will carry Synspective's StriX-2.
Not seeing any launch footage for this one tonight
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:38:46 UTC No. 16512227
>>16512223
https://x.com/StarShip_S24/status/1
>RocketLab successfully launched the 3rd HASTE rocket from wallops island VA on 12/13 at 8pm EST!
Wait, there's some
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:43:33 UTC No. 16512228
Kairos round 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dS
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:45:09 UTC No. 16512229
>>16512207
https://x.com/nvslive/status/186774
>スペースワン社より10:31発表
>打上げ日を変更しました とのこと。
>本日の打上げは延期です。
>Announced by Space One at 10:31
>The launch date has been changed.
>Today's launch has been postponed.
Another scrub. Looks like that's all for tonight
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:46:49 UTC No. 16512231
What is your opinion on sci fi always portraying Earth as a united block under the UN and Mars as being a totally united block independent of anyone else?
Personally I don't think it makes any sense. If Tsarism still affects the Russian mentality today then there is no way western and and eastern colonies would get along for hundreds of years
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:50:00 UTC No. 16512234
>>16512231
>What is your opinion on sci fi always portraying Earth as a united block under the UN
Much of sci-fi is commie propaganda.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:51:54 UTC No. 16512235
>>16512231
in japanese media it comes from the US occupation and 80's optimism, in western media it's mostly socialist / technocratic wishful thinking. Mars comes from it's association with war here on the west
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:54:10 UTC No. 16512236
>>16512231
>What is your opinion on sci fi always portraying Earth as a united block under the UN and Mars as being a totally united block independent of anyone else?
It started off as an inheritance of post-WW2 attitudes where people assumed that the US would just sort of grow into the UN and leave other countries as vestigial territories. "The United Nations" was basically "The Allies" in Korea. Then the Cold War ended and authors started blindly aping midcentury greats so now it's >>16512234
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 01:56:22 UTC No. 16512237
>>16512236
>pic
God I love that furry drawfag so much, he has some of the best designs that I've seen
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 02:00:34 UTC No. 16512241
>>16512236
>Bagger 288 moon variant
Good lord can you imagine it
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 02:00:59 UTC No. 16512243
>>16512241
Komatsu is literally designing moon backhoes right now, so yes I can.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 02:01:59 UTC No. 16512246
>>16512243
Incredible
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 02:02:55 UTC No. 16512247
>>16512246
https://www.komatsu.jp/en/aboutus/b
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 02:03:17 UTC No. 16512248
>>16512235
>>16512236
Good points. I forgot Korea was technically the UN vs norks and china. I doubt anyone on Mars would seek independence for hundreds of years
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 02:25:25 UTC No. 16512256
https://x.com/kelvin61942434/status
>A notable design update in TL-3’s hold down clamps, which led to the unintended lift-off during static fire. The clamps have been relocated to the bottom of the engine bay, similar to CZ-12 setup, and the number of clamps are doubled. The original design is similar to F9 setup.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 02:57:09 UTC No. 16512265
>>16512247
>sending big heavy ass shit to the moon
>not just manufacturing that on the moon
why?
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 02:57:44 UTC No. 16512267
>>16512265
Starting with big machines instead of hand tools makes bootstrapping local manufacturing much faster.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 02:59:51 UTC No. 16512268
Hypothetical for /sfg/: If the plasma universe/cosmology theory turns out to be true instead of the lambda big bang model of the universe. What sort of spacecraft propulsion techniques could be used to take advantage of that theory?
>Mach effect thrust?
>Using electromagnetism to manipulate gravity/mass of a spacecraft?
>Warping space for FTL?
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 03:01:22 UTC No. 16512269
>>16512267
You're gonna have to start refinement and manufacturing of metals immediately if you want to properly bootstrap a lunar colony. Steel specifically.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 03:01:55 UTC No. 16512270
>>16512269
Building mines and refineries is easier with heavy equipment.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 03:13:57 UTC No. 16512276
Is Elon still being retarded with his plan to go to Mars, or will he be based and dangerously redpilled and go to the moon instead in order to start building shit there? Starbase 2: Loona edition?
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 03:16:02 UTC No. 16512278
>>16512276
Please explain this equation or fuck off and kill yourself.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 03:19:39 UTC No. 16512279
>>16512278
>▲V
Change in velocity i.e. the amount a spaceship can alter its velocity before running out of propellant.
>Ve
Exhaust velocity, self explanatory, the higher the velocity, the more efficient it is.
>Ln
Logarithmic function
>M0/Mf
Initial mass of the rocket divided by its final mass
Now answer my fucking question.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 03:22:08 UTC No. 16512280
>>16512279
Look at this fucking map and assume the return cost from Mars is zero, i.e. total propellant ISRU. The answer should become obvious.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 03:31:16 UTC No. 16512287
>>16512280
The moon?
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 03:33:56 UTC No. 16512291
>>16512287
No, you fucking retard. It means the ROUND TRIP cost to Mars and back when measured in Earth-launched propellant is SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER than the round trip cost to the Moon and back, PLUS Mars has an assload more ice, CO2, iron, uranium, etc. for actually building things other than niche vacuum manufacturing stuff.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 03:35:49 UTC No. 16512294
>>16512291
Nigga why are you assuming no ISRU on the moon but you are with Mars? Second, the regolith contains everything you need to sustain a colony and you can easily build not only metals like titanium but primarily fucking steel, you know, the building block of every modern day structure for dirt cheap cost? It's also closer so if bad shit happens, you can have back up plans, not so much with Mars. Mars should be after you have manufacturing on the moon, not before.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 03:37:50 UTC No. 16512295
>>16512294
>>>16512291(You)
>Nigga why are you assuming no ISRU on the moon but you are with Mars?
Critical lack of large carbon deposits. Moon ISRU only makes sense with smaller, shittier, LH2/LOX rockets like blorp's Artemis 5 lander. Starship needs thousands of tons of carbon for ONE flight home, and that's just not available on the moon. On Mars it's in the atmosphere for free.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 03:38:20 UTC No. 16512296
>>16512294
also good luck making steel without carbon you underage cock gobbling moron
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 03:40:59 UTC No. 16512298
>>16512295
>>16512296
Nigga do you know how little carbon you can ship in to make X amount of prop or steel? It's a literal non issue.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 03:41:07 UTC No. 16512299
>>16512295
>Critical lack of large carbon deposits
You don't know mars has that either
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 03:41:34 UTC No. 16512300
>>16512299
>You don't know mars has that either
THE MARTIAN ATMOSPHERE IS OVER 90% CARBON DIOXIDE
IT'S FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 03:42:34 UTC No. 16512301
>>16512300
Annihilate the atmosphere.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 03:50:03 UTC No. 16512307
>>16512300
Imagine the smell
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 03:59:09 UTC No. 16512315
>>16512265
We need to stop this scarcity mentality. We should send 100 excavators all at once. we're not going to send people with shovels to work in bulky space suits
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 04:01:21 UTC No. 16512317
>>16512298
>All ISRU on the moon needs is a huge supply chain to ship in everything it needs from Earth
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 04:12:45 UTC No. 16512318
>>16511643
Not even beening excited to be wrong either
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 04:13:46 UTC No. 16512319
>>16511648
Cool love the simple tarp on top
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 04:15:03 UTC No. 16512321
>>16511692
They really should have partnered with an existing first stage to speed things along.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 04:17:09 UTC No. 16512322
>>16511802
StarShip Centuar needs to be a thing
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 04:22:24 UTC No. 16512329
>>16511933
Printing commercial circuit boards here is a pretty big deal.
If tariffs get real or tawian goes down could be pretty lucrative.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 04:42:38 UTC No. 16512346
>>16512320
no they look like this
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 04:48:16 UTC No. 16512351
If we ever discover intelligent ayys do you think they will be using the same type of propulsion systems we use or could feasibly use, or would they all be doing some weird shit to move their spacecraft?
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 04:50:21 UTC No. 16512352
>>16512351
If there are ayys coming in anything other than a nearlight torch ship they would have to use exotic physics, and we'd have seen their drive plume if they were coming in a torch.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 04:57:01 UTC No. 16512355
>>16512229
https://x.com/nvslive/status/186777
>The reason for the postponement of today's launch of the Kairos Rocket No. 2 is due to strong winds at over 10 km above the launch site.
>The next launch of Kairos Rocket No. 2 is currently being scheduled for tomorrow, December 15th at 11:00 [9:00 PM EST]. Coordination with the relevant parties is still ongoing and no final decision has been made. A press release is scheduled for 3:00 p.m.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 05:08:50 UTC No. 16512361
>>16512355
one of todays falcons was also postponed due to wind
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1867745
is there any way for us to get rid of wind as a hazard for rockets? possibly by removing the atmosphere?
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 05:38:39 UTC No. 16512373
I just finished exams and drove home. What have I missed in the last week? Preferably newspace news, obviously SpaceX has been on the move (when are they not kek)
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 05:43:11 UTC No. 16512374
>>16512361
make the fineness ratio of your rockets lower
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 05:48:19 UTC No. 16512376
I saw uranus tonight
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 06:11:06 UTC No. 16512388
>>16512376
Proofs?
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 06:34:10 UTC No. 16512407
>>16512265
There are no factories on the moon
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 07:10:59 UTC No. 16512439
>>16512025
Prox Cen b is likely to be habitable so we can set up our first base there.
From Prox Cen b we can observe Alpha Cen to see if the gas giant, which is in the habitable zone, has any terrestrial moons. If so, that would be our next destination, as it's likely to be even more habitable than Prox Cen b.
There is no point going to Barnard's, the confirmed planet is too close to the star.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 07:24:45 UTC No. 16512444
>>16512431
Have they ever sent actual mammals to space stations? Dog when?
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 08:29:21 UTC No. 16512463
>>16512444
How fucking new are you? And dont say youve been here longer than me obviously not true
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 08:40:49 UTC No. 16512474
>>16512217
That strongly implies they want it to exist, even though it would suck because it's a speespleen.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 08:47:57 UTC No. 16512479
>>16512463
>>16512431
Dogs are so fucking chill
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 08:48:58 UTC No. 16512480
>>16511639
Yep
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 08:52:22 UTC No. 16512483
>>16511490
Anything to get away from you.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 08:53:35 UTC No. 16512484
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 08:58:27 UTC No. 16512485
>>16512463
but that image isn't real
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 09:00:07 UTC No. 16512486
>>16512474
It looks like an improvement over STS.
>vertical stabilzers that work on descent
>trading separate OMS and a bit of cargo bay length for cryogenic orbital maneuvering tanks
>thicker TPS/armor
>better cockpit visibility
>stage adapter hardware on the ass so not a sidehanger
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 09:02:29 UTC No. 16512487
>>16512479
except for the three dogs in your next door neighbor's back yard
but damn them shiba inu can be super chill
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 09:06:03 UTC No. 16512489
>>16512431
humans happen to already have a set of adaptations that make it really easy for them to move around in zero-g. other animals cannot cope.
makes me wonder how monkes would do.
i wanna see a chimp swinging around a zero-g station forest.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 09:11:37 UTC No. 16512493
>>16512487
>shiba inu
Shibas are actually super tempermental. The most chill doga are normally retrievers like Goldens and Labs
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 09:16:13 UTC No. 16512499
>>16512162
Imagine the alternate timeline.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 09:25:38 UTC No. 16512503
>>16512431
Interesting behaviours. The cat tries to adjust itself for a landing because it senses that it's in freefall. The mice create their own gravity through centrifugal forces. The birds can somewhat control their movement by flying through the air, but the zero-G throws them off.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 09:33:12 UTC No. 16512506
>>16512088
>>16512092
What does this mean? What is a Type-C municipality? Like a town?
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 09:41:12 UTC No. 16512510
>>16512503
The mouse study was actually really interesting, once the little bastards figured out how the mechanics of their situation worked they seemed to love it.
https://www.nasa.gov/science-resear
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ryCHUtH
I suspect the "race-tracking" behavior is probably the same sort of instinct that drives them to run in wheels down here on Earth. The study says they came back in good health and didn't show any signs of stress so they were probably having fun racing around.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 10:05:55 UTC No. 16512528
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 10:08:26 UTC No. 16512530
>>16512528
If Starbase reached 5k in population, they could become a home-rule city which would mean more autonomy
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 11:11:40 UTC No. 16512559
>>16512530
Are they required to have some form of democratic governance? Your image says they have their own "city charter" allowing for "customized" government structures, but also says that their charter is amended through voter-approved processes.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 11:17:11 UTC No. 16512562
>>16512559
according to grok, yes its democratic
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 11:19:00 UTC No. 16512564
>>16512562
Sounds like a raw deal for SpaceX then.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 11:20:58 UTC No. 16512565
>>16512564
they would still probably have much more influence over a small municipality where they are basically the only employer and almost all residents are employees
creating some fully autonomous, company owned territory does not seem possible (at least not in texas, I doubt anywhere in the US)
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 11:25:01 UTC No. 16512566
>>16512565
Why can't they just say that there is no town, just some company property that some employees happen to live on? Why does the area have to be a legally recognized population center?
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 11:42:44 UTC No. 16512575
why are the so adamant about making it a city?
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 11:45:53 UTC No. 16512580
>>16512575
More freedom, currently they are stuck on that tiny patch of land and can't expand
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 11:48:58 UTC No. 16512582
>>16512580
so we need to make the land a federal preserve to prevent any expansion then
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 12:15:41 UTC No. 16512588
Cancel all NASA programs and just give nasa to Spacex
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 12:30:07 UTC No. 16512592
space militias
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 12:43:13 UTC No. 16512597
>>16512566
If they're not incorporated, then the county is in charge.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 12:48:44 UTC No. 16512598
>https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citation
>14Dec1965
>So you know if you start a NTR and pass propellant throught it, you get thrust right?
>But then, if you make it hotter the propellant comes out harder
>So, what if instead of making a core meltdown a risk we turn into a feature?
>How much? How about we let it vaporize?
>And I don't mean, turn uranium into a plasma-gas and heat propellant after going through a pipe
>I mean turn uranium into plasma, stir it into a vortex and then throw hydrogen in the same chamber and then let it be tangentially expelled through the nozzle
>How do we shut it down?
>... very carefully
The 60s were mad crazy
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 12:51:13 UTC No. 16512599
Tim fernholz is a faggot journo FAGGOT
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 12:53:34 UTC No. 16512602
>>16512598
>uranium is stored in the balls
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 13:05:08 UTC No. 16512609
>>16510364
MERCURY IS THE BEST PLANET, APPOLOGIZE TO MERCURY YOU STUPID MERCURY HATERS!
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 13:07:07 UTC No. 16512610
>>16512479
It's not actually in space. That's an old Japanese commercial for dogfood, I think. It was a definitely a Japanese commercial but I can't remember precisely if what they were selling was dogfood.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 13:10:50 UTC No. 16512613
>>16512610
but is it actual free-fall? like on a vomit comet?
because that looks like a mock-up of Kibou module behind the dog, and the dog seems to actually be floating
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 13:11:57 UTC No. 16512614
>>16512610
>It's not actually in space
well obviously, dogs can't survive in a vacuum after all
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 13:15:33 UTC No. 16512617
>>16512598
Whenever I hear vortex, I see a scam. No vortex anything has ever been a practical design.
>inb4 muh vacuum cleaner
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 13:20:36 UTC No. 16512620
>>16512613
Nah, it was a soundstage with green screen.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 13:29:41 UTC No. 16512625
Could gyrojet be made today but better?
Like could a modern rocket motor and propellant be able to withstand being fired like at least at 1000fps for a 230gr mass bullet and would it be able to propel said bullet to at least double or triple the effective range of the equivalent conventional cartridge
Or lets say not .45 acp since that sucks for ballistics, could it match the payload and the range of .308
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 14:00:52 UTC No. 16512631
Europan submarine mission be like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ht
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 14:12:31 UTC No. 16512639
>>16512631
I can't imagine any potential life on europa would have any form of light sensitivity
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 14:14:05 UTC No. 16512641
>>16512639
no, but they would have heat sensitivity... and the human body is quite warm...
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 14:19:37 UTC No. 16512645
>>16512639
This wikipedia page is potentially relevant to life in Europa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movil
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 14:23:20 UTC No. 16512647
>>16512625
Gyrojets only really make sense for autocannon sized barrels (>=30mm) because modern high pressure ammo is so well optimized. The real upgrade would be spin stabilization and better propellant for 70mm Hydra/APKWS rockets.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 14:26:01 UTC No. 16512649
>>16512484
jd vance?
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 14:27:47 UTC No. 16512651
>>16512431
keeek frogposters can't handle going to space
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 14:32:16 UTC No. 16512653
>>16512431
We never investigated insect breeding in space even though it is easy to do. Let that sink in.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 14:35:00 UTC No. 16512654
>>16512653
Only weirdos wanna watch bugs fuck
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 14:35:35 UTC No. 16512655
>>16512653
>insects escape
>station is infested with bugs until the day it deorbits
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 14:40:50 UTC No. 16512659
>>16512655
Funny I just watched Jurassic Park yesterday for the first time since I was a kid. Kinda underwhelming movie.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 15:07:33 UTC No. 16512666
>>16512659
Dogshit take
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 15:11:48 UTC No. 16512670
>https://arstechnica.com/space/2024
a huge ass article that says nothing new
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 15:13:00 UTC No. 16512672
>>16512670
and the comments are even more useless pop sci russia derangement syndrome
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 15:18:21 UTC No. 16512676
What's the next big thing in planetary spaceflight?
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 15:21:01 UTC No. 16512680
>>16512676
VD drive is the only way forward
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 15:28:23 UTC No. 16512691
>>16512680
Aether drive you mean
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 15:52:01 UTC No. 16512721
>>16512670
i dont like stephan clark's articles. they are useless info dump that dont seem to point to anything and reads as a textbook
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 15:53:31 UTC No. 16512723
>>16512676
>Commercialization (ish) of nuclear fuel
>Battery storage revolution
>Starship—and to a lesser extent, new glenn coming online
>New deep space network, laser communications
>Actual useful ISRU of another planetary body for fuel
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 15:55:59 UTC No. 16512726
>>16512670
thats how stephen clarkes articles are, like 3x as long as they need to be
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 15:59:50 UTC No. 16512730
>>16512431
there was a severe lack of fish in this video.
There was one SF short I read years ago about a guy trying to invent a flying suit for the first O'Niell stations and having miserable time making it work. His bright idea was finally modeling it after fish instead of birds. The sea with buoyancy is a lot closer to a zero-G environment than the sky. The mechanics of flight and lift assumes a gravity gradient.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 16:42:08 UTC No. 16512788
The Jovian Empire will have its headquarters housed at the city on Callisto called Arcadia.
The outpost called Troy on Ganymede will study its magnetic field, the outpost called Tyros on Europa will study its sub-surface oceans, and the outpost called Argos on Io will study its volcanism.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 16:51:46 UTC No. 16512801
POV: you're a submarine on Europa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEK
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 17:31:59 UTC No. 16512847
>>16512788
>>>/lit/
scifi general is that way
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 17:49:15 UTC No. 16512857
>>16512672
it's not really derangement syndrome to want ziggers to stop chimping out and stop constantly causing problems, i'd prefer if they stopped obsessing over losing their empire and feeling envy and started unfucking their space program.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 18:39:39 UTC No. 16512897
https://x.com/joshlikesrocket/statu
>Been holding these since last night, but great progress has been made on LC-3 with the launch mount having been installed ahead of Neutron's Test Flight.
>>16512847
I haven't been to /lit/ in years, but don't they hate genera fiction?
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 18:48:48 UTC No. 16512908
https://www.reuters.com/technology/
>ORLANDO, Dec 14 (Reuters) - Boeing and Lockheed Martin's joint rocket venture, United Launch Alliance (ULA), plans to upgrade a version of its Vulcan rocket to challenge SpaceX's Starship in the low Earth orbit satellite launch market, the company's CEO said.
>"We have recently completed a big trade study for what we want to have to be competitive in a future LEO market," ULA's CEO Tory Bruno told Reuters on Thursday on the sidelines of a military space conference in Orlando, "and we've selected a modification to Vulcan which gives us significantly more mass to LEO and puts us in a competitive range."
>Among the options ULA drew up for an LEO-optimized version, Bruno said, were a "Vulcan Heavy," or three Vulcan core boosters strapped together. He also said there were "other Vulcan configurations that are pretty unique, that have propulsion in unusual places".
>ULA expects to finish development of the variant by the time he believes Musk's Starship - a gigantic rocket that is eventually meant to go to Mars - begins offering LEO satellite launches, Bruno said, which he suggests could be several years from now.
Even with Vulcan Heavy back on the menu ULA can't seem to stop losing
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 18:53:19 UTC No. 16512913
>>16512908
shame reuse was completely ignored at the design stage and now it's too late!
They want to sell big GTO launches with a Vulcan Heavy to the government
haven't' noticed we are doing constellations now
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 19:00:31 UTC No. 16512918
>>16512670
Pretty big change in stance from the no weapons policy for decades.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 19:00:49 UTC No. 16512919
More like Sneedbase amirite
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 19:01:33 UTC No. 16512921
>>16512919
seethe
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 19:01:52 UTC No. 16512923
>>16512908
Let's hope but this has to be invested bait
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 19:03:09 UTC No. 16512925
>>16512913
That's what the "LEO optimization" part is about. Turns out Centaur V is grossly oversized for non-GTO launches and you can get a significant payload boost by shortening it
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 19:05:38 UTC No. 16512928
>>16512908
So you’re telling me they just strap together 3 vulcans and that becomes the heavy? it’s not that easy in rocketry.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 19:10:16 UTC No. 16512936
>>16512908
>LEO
What happened to high energy?
they should just focus on turning Vulcan into a lunar cargo
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 19:13:49 UTC No. 16512941
>>16512928
Since Vulcan's core structure was designed to only have to deal with extra thrust from some short GEM SRBs it's really not. Turning it into a methalox Delta IV Heavy is going to be a pain
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 19:21:12 UTC No. 16512953
>>16512908
lol Starship is about cost to orbit, not heavy lifting
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 19:26:25 UTC No. 16512958
>>16512941
A six SRB Vulcan would be under far more thrust stress than a tricore.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 19:27:57 UTC No. 16512962
>>16512953
Payload to orbit is a factor in cost when you are launching something like a sat constellation.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 19:31:48 UTC No. 16512966
>>16512958
It'd be under different stresses. Dealing with six 2000 kN boosters is a very different problem than two big 5000 kN LRBs, and that's not even touching how much the boosters would need to be modified to transfer their force horizontally to a separate thrust structure rather than vertically up through the rocket. There's a lot of good reasons why the Falcon Heavy was as hard of a design as it turned out being.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 19:34:29 UTC No. 16512969
>>16512966
>that's not even touching how much the boosters would need to be modified to transfer their force horizontally to a separate thrust structure rather than vertically up through the rocket
You mean like a Vulcan core accepting the horizontal force of its SRB.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 19:48:40 UTC No. 16512982
>>16512969
No. That's a completely different problem. A Vulcan core stage is designed to take a lot of force in thrust structure at the base and transfer that up through the rocket. An LRB would need to send all of that force sideways into another structure, and that core would need to be modified to survive having 2.5x the force of a single GEM pushing in one spot.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 19:49:41 UTC No. 16512983
>>16512908
Tory could maybe try making ULA useful by shuttering it so it can stop hogging contracts with no benefit to Earth
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 19:59:52 UTC No. 16512997
>>16512659
I watched it for the first time last week and I thought it was pretty bad too. Cool concept but the movie is boring and the characters are annoying
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 20:02:30 UTC No. 16512998
>>16512997
What movie are we watching next?
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 20:03:06 UTC No. 16513000
The reddit movie
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 20:17:50 UTC No. 16513011
>>16512924
nobody wants to see this boring shit fuck off
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 20:22:54 UTC No. 16513022
We will have Starships on Mars before Dragonfly even launches.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 20:24:33 UTC No. 16513027
>>16512924
That is fucking awesome.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 20:26:59 UTC No. 16513031
>>16512924
gorgeous. For some reason, never saw this continuous shot with the early shadow of the lander. Also the crater sizes are quite fractal; hard to get a sense of scale.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 20:33:06 UTC No. 16513046
>>16512908
Here's a tip: actually fucking launch something.
At least Vulcan is ahead of BONG now.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 20:37:16 UTC No. 16513056
>>16513031
The thing that throws off perception is the lack of ground features. If the moon had trees or something it would be easy to tell.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 20:40:01 UTC No. 16513061
/sfg/ movie night when?
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 20:49:32 UTC No. 16513078
We did a weekly cytube movie night on the discord last year but the organizer got busy and no one took over so it died off. Might restart it if there's enough interest.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 20:50:30 UTC No. 16513082
Fuck off dune is a good movie
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 20:56:30 UTC No. 16513089
>>16512908
yeah not gonna work, you have to actually reduce your price, which means re-useability, which you're still pretending isn't worth it. no wonder they're failing.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 20:56:58 UTC No. 16513091
your dad is a good fleshlight on my cock
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 21:13:18 UTC No. 16513100
>>16513091
that's gay, why are you such a faggot?
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 21:40:35 UTC No. 16513114
>>16512924
I like how the moon up close looks like a computer render. The lack of fog and an atmosphere makes it feel that way.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 21:53:58 UTC No. 16513128
>>16513114
It's fucking with my distance estimation
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 21:59:14 UTC No. 16513132
>>16513128
we have to plant trees on the moon! It's the only way
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:00:22 UTC No. 16513134
>>16512924
The moon is so beautiful, I'm all for setting up a permanent presence there but I hope we don't make it look like some industrial hellscape
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:03:07 UTC No. 16513136
>>16513134
>>16513132
Huge domed forests on the moon.
>inb4 anti-dome anon
He can have a lava tube if he prefers.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:07:55 UTC No. 16513140
>>16513136
monkes swinging around the kilometer tall moon trees
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:10:21 UTC No. 16513144
>>16513134
>but I hope we don't make it look like some industrial hellscape
What the fuck else would it look like? Stupid hippie commie faggot. Please leave space exploration to those who actually find humanity's creations beautiful.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:10:28 UTC No. 16513145
>>16513134
>I hope we don't make it look like some industrial hellscape
no worries
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:12:25 UTC No. 16513148
>>16513145
>catholicuck
lol
space belongs to arab bulls, inshallah
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:14:50 UTC No. 16513151
If we're no more than animals, we must snatch each little scrap of happiness. And live and fuddle and pass. Mattering no more than all the other animals do or have done. It is this, or that. ALL THE UNIVERSE, OR NOTHINGNESS! Which shall it be Passworthy? Which shall it be?
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:16:03 UTC No. 16513155
>>16513148
arab bulls should probably stop inbreeding in their little sand shitholes first before they start claiming anything.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:17:52 UTC No. 16513158
>>16513144
Do you know what industrial means? That's a futuristic research station. Industrial means ugly mines and factories everywhere
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:17:59 UTC No. 16513159
>>16513151
No is no footage of Starship this good. Let that sink in. 50 years after Saturn V and the best footage of Starship we have is Estronaut's 720p Twitching stream
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:19:49 UTC No. 16513161
>>16513159
We need to get Elon to install some high speed cameras with 35mm or better film. Digital will NEVER have that much soul.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:21:34 UTC No. 16513164
>>16513158
factories and mines are only considered "ugly" by people on earth because they replace natural areas that are better looking.
there is no nature to ruin on the moon or mars, so people saying mines on mars would look "ugly" are retarded.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:22:14 UTC No. 16513167
what does "V" in Saturn V stand for?
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:25:02 UTC No. 16513169
>>16512610
Yeah the dog is clearly resting on a platform with his legs free, and chromakeyed into the ISS.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:26:09 UTC No. 16513171
>>16513167
the same thing the V in Delta V stands for
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:26:14 UTC No. 16513172
>>16513167
Victory.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:27:31 UTC No. 16513174
>>16513167
Voyager
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:27:55 UTC No. 16513175
>>16513167
V has come to
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:28:07 UTC No. 16513176
>>16513167
Very large.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:29:30 UTC No. 16513177
>>16513167
it was the next rocket after Saturn U
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:30:44 UTC No. 16513179
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:31:30 UTC No. 16513180
>>16513167
which way the flamey side points to
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:41:42 UTC No. 16513190
>>16512265
making your first excavator on the moon is easier if you start with excavators
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:54:45 UTC No. 16513202
>>16512265
massc*ck attitude
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:56:58 UTC No. 16513207
>>16513167
I used to pronounce it as "Saturn Vee"
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 23:03:37 UTC No. 16513214
>>16513167
BVLL
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 23:05:33 UTC No. 16513215
Cool video posted on /k/ about ABM systems
https://youtu.be/gSFIkGfbLxs
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 23:12:11 UTC No. 16513222
>>16513215
Go back
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 23:21:06 UTC No. 16513228
>>16513215
go Forward
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 23:21:11 UTC No. 16513229
>>16513215
Don't go back, hang out with us instead.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 23:23:56 UTC No. 16513231
>>16513215
Leave this place, never to return.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 23:24:04 UTC No. 16513232
>>16513215
All ground-based ABM is, at best, cope.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 23:35:55 UTC No. 16513241
>>16513215
You have to go bac/k/.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 23:51:42 UTC No. 16513249
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Dec 2024 23:53:59 UTC No. 16513250
>>16513249
/sfg/ is a Brilliant Pebbles general, fuck off with your gay and useless ground-based interceptors, /k/tard.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 00:15:42 UTC No. 16513255
>>16512374
what if I don't want to use the chode rocket
>>16512493
goldens are VERY VERY nervous animals
they also happen to be very very friendly animals
>>16512925
>shortening it
wrong, adding more engines
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 00:20:30 UTC No. 16513256
someone stage
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 00:24:09 UTC No. 16513257
>>16513255
looks shorter to me
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 00:24:38 UTC No. 16513258
>>16513215
Stay with us, friend
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 00:26:36 UTC No. 16513260
>>16513148
shut up delta you fag
>>16513257
that's because Tory Bruno is fag with no vision and also he pays tens of millions of dollars for each of those engines
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 00:30:15 UTC No. 16513261
>>16513215
Cool video, thanks for sharing. Ignore the warm water port posters.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 00:34:02 UTC No. 16513262
>>16513261
>warm water port posters
made me kek
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 00:43:42 UTC No. 16513264
>>16512231
It was partly just a consequence of space being seen as one of those things that was too big for anyone but the government to do. It was a natural consequence that people sort of followed of "space = government, lots of space = lots of government" and obviously a single united Earth government ruling all of humanity is the logical endpoint. With SpaceX becoming increasingly dominant and the gap between them and the rest of the world growing (and most importantly here their presence in the public consciousness getting stronger) it's going to shatter that being the "default" thing.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 00:45:48 UTC No. 16513265
>>16512431
I love the highly eccentric rat orbits.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 00:47:55 UTC No. 16513267
>>16512431
>animals reacting to zero gravity
The dog one is from an advert and wasn't even in 0G, just on a harness moving around with a green screen.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 00:48:56 UTC No. 16513268
>>16513256
I'm not going to do it again I'm running out of images somebody use this one
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 00:49:58 UTC No. 16513269
>>16513265
Based rats.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 01:12:23 UTC No. 16513283
>>16512983
He has to keep his tailor in business.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 01:25:45 UTC No. 16513300
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 01:25:54 UTC No. 16513301
>>16513269
That looks like so much fun for the rats, I wanna do it now.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 01:28:28 UTC No. 16513304
>>16513257
It's going to be just as if not more expensive than Vulcan currently is. The cost is not in shaving off a bit of the centaur steel tank. It's in the engines they keep throwing away.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 03:41:41 UTC No. 16513388
>>16513269
wtf I never knew we sent rats to space
did they have fun?
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 03:48:56 UTC No. 16513395
>>16513388
hell yeah
yeah
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 04:53:23 UTC No. 16513464
>>16512086
Yeah, IF. The first time around, he promised a lot, and halfway through, it fell apart. No system is perfect, it can't be.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Dec 2024 09:21:05 UTC No. 16513611
>>16513167
Vergeltungswaffe