🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 12:07:41 UTC No. 16529664
Mars flyby in 2 years - edition
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Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 12:10:05 UTC No. 16529672
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18734
Mars uncrewed in 2 years, crewed flyby in 2 years, crew landing in 4 years
Heat shield development should mostly done in 2025 (at least for a minimum viable "fully reusable" product)
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 12:12:48 UTC No. 16529677
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
>Completion of the dynamic hot-fire test sets up a historic moment for the company founded by Jeff Bezos nearly a quarter of a century ago: the firm's first ever orbital launch attempt. It will occur from Launch Complex-36, at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station.
>Blue Origin's post-test update did not include a launch date, but based on flight advisory information, a no-earlier-than launch date is likely to be January 6.
New Glenn maiden flight NET in 6th January
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 12:14:21 UTC No. 16529680
>>16529677
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbZ
>FIRE! Blue Origin New Glenn First Hot Fire
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 12:19:39 UTC No. 16529686
I've seen some speculation that Starship Flight 7 is NET January 11th though not sure what it was based on. They already have the license, both the Booster 14 and Ship 33 have done static fires, so a flight in two weeks doesn't seem impossible
Maybe the scheduling of some NASA airplane?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 12:24:47 UTC No. 16529693
>spaceflight becoming increasingly important
>most countries are still burying their heads in the sand, refusing to invest into it
grim
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 12:26:11 UTC No. 16529695
>>16529690
>SpadeX
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 12:28:34 UTC No. 16529698
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBo
>Jeff Bezos’ Space Plans Make More Sense Than Elon Musk's
a pretty uninformed video talking about new glenn, comparing it to Falcon 9 but not mentioning Starship at all basically
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 12:57:05 UTC No. 16529717
>>16529664
Moving the goalposts (or shifting the goalposts) is a metaphor, derived from goal-based sports such as football and hockey, that means to change the rule or criterion ("goal") of a process or competition while it is still in progress, in such a way that the new goal offers one side an advantage or disadvantage.[1]
NASA has been sending uncrewed missions to Mars for decades. What's the plan? Launch an empty Starship with no atmosphere inside and a single banana? BTW there are so many outdated old Space X timelines for this BS clown show I didn't know which one to post. Every 6-12 months Musk releases a new pushed out timeline and seals clap like always. It'll be two years from now and you'll still be saying "two more years". Space Shuttle had a working heat shield over 40 years ago....why not StarShip? I mean when are you people going to wake up and realize you've been scammed? Never? Yeah I'm thinking never.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:09:03 UTC No. 16529729
>>16529717
it has been kept pushed back, but not as much
eventually it happens
I guess your perspective is that if SpaceX lands people on Mars in 2028 or 2030 then thats not cool or impressive anymore because Musk said he would do it in 2020 back in 2010?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:21:30 UTC No. 16529749
>>16529704
>tfw you are 30% the mass of the whole asteroid belt
>tfw if you were 66% bigger you would have a majority and perhaps be considered a planet
didnt quite make it
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:23:41 UTC No. 16529751
>>16529672
there's no way anyone actually believes this, right??
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:24:24 UTC No. 16529752
>>16529721
Flight 7, troon.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:24:36 UTC No. 16529753
>>16529751
If Elon says it, I believe it. Unless it's a schedule. Then I add one decade.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:24:55 UTC No. 16529755
>>16529749
But it wouldn't have cleared its orbit.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:28:04 UTC No. 16529758
>>16529717
I don't understand where the "scammed" narrative comes in... NASA has spent less on starship then the odd space telescope or rover... MUCH less than on the new(old) moon hardware, which is done by companies that have been actively scamming the government for fifty years. The people I know that have starlink like it. Where's the scam?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:28:32 UTC No. 16529760
>>16529755
I think the word is "dominate the mass of its orbit"
jupiter hasnt cleared its orbit of all the trojans and greeks (and hildas) either
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:30:47 UTC No. 16529765
>>16529717
>Space Shuttle had a working heat shield over 40 years ago
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:32:57 UTC No. 16529769
>>16529698
Good God those comments. And these are people subscribed to a physicist. Why is space literacy so fucking bad?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:40:12 UTC No. 16529775
>>16529693
shit's expensive
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:43:21 UTC No. 16529777
>>16529775
importing millions of shitskins is expensive. Subsidizing dick chopping and child diddling is expensive. MIC is expensive. Spaceflight is not expensive, but boomers and plebians believe otherwise.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:43:42 UTC No. 16529778
>>16529775
but is it more expensive to not do it?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:51:25 UTC No. 16529784
>>16529778
Most of the countries capable of developing a launcher will be able to purchase a starship flight. The ones that won't be allowed to buy starship flights can't make a launcher to begin with.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:53:49 UTC No. 16529787
>>16529758
>I don't understand where the "scammed" narrative comes in..
because the EDS crowd imagine (though never look up) that spacex has received hundreds of billions of dollars in 'subsidies'. In reality is about 15bn since 2003.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:54:16 UTC No. 16529788
>>16529784
China?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:55:16 UTC No. 16529790
>>16529787
contracts aren't subsidies
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:57:25 UTC No. 16529792
was this an early stage or did jannies nuke half the board again
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:59:14 UTC No. 16529797
>>16529788
No
>most countries are still burying their heads in the sand, refusing to invest into it
The conversation is about those
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:59:44 UTC No. 16529799
>>16529795
you cant even sign up for the beta yet until early next year
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:01:43 UTC No. 16529800
>>16529686
both the WB-57 scheduling and current flight restrictions in the gulf suggest the 11th. afaik there haven't been any NOTMARs in the indian ocean yet but both those and NOTAMs can come only a few days before a launch, WB-57s going to australia is a much longer lead time. There was some discussion about having a special waiver for the NASA planes to fly without any external lights active because apparently they could interfere with filming, and the proposal for that had something about the 11th
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:02:07 UTC No. 16529802
>>16529790
indeed
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:10:09 UTC No. 16529806
>>16529803
absolute kino. Back when there was hope and mankind walked forwards towards a better tomorrow
>4 billion
we need to go back. WW3 can't come soon enough...
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:10:14 UTC No. 16529807
https://ringwatchers.com/article/s3
article 5/5 in the Starship 33 upgrades series, the last one is about the heat shield
part 3 was never posted I'm pretty sure, it was about the aft section and scanning through it there doesn't seem to be any big changes, in fact the lower flaps seem to be identical, S33 still uses Raptor 2s so not much to talk about I guess
didn't stop the ringwatchers from cataloging every different bolt and so on though
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:10:37 UTC No. 16529808
>>16529758
>>16529787
The whole argument EDS sufferers' have is basically you shouldn't announce what you can't deliver. Which is almost reasonable on its face but the logical extreme of it is that the company that announces something conservative or extremely little is inherently a better company if they can deliver on whatever timeline they announce.
It burns them up that despite setbacks to timelines or some of them being flat out impossible, that lots of Elon's companies are increasing in value, either in stock price or valuations. Some of them being eaten alive from short positions. They don't understand why Elon hasn't been drawn and quartered by the investors, the SEC or other agencies for apparently "misleading" investors time and time again.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:18:53 UTC No. 16529811
>>16529803
crazy how the global population has doubled since then
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:21:13 UTC No. 16529812
>>16529808
it burns them because they've been to burn about it
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:22:29 UTC No. 16529813
>>16529807
summary of the flight tests with respect to heat shield and tile performance in various ways
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:34:00 UTC No. 16529818
>>16529813
the tiles that were previously glued at the places were barrel sections were joined together (unfinished ship 32 in the middle of pic) with a welding robot are use pins now as well, the pins installed with a separate robot
>Prior to stacking, each barrel section still has large "keep out zones" on the top and bottom, as the constraints introduced by the welding robot are still present. However, a new step has been introduced following the mating of the sections.
>SpaceX now has a second robot to weld attachment pins over the barrel joints, seamlessly connecting the sections of the heat shield together. **This means that there are no longer any horizontal seams or glued tiles between barrel sections.**
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:34:47 UTC No. 16529820
>ESA
>grift for French defence industry
>instills 0 national pride, nobody cares
>bureaucratic and retarded, much like all pan-european institutions
>basically crippled every other European space program
>ISRO
>wants to develop everything on their own because muh national pride, resulting in excessive redundancy when they could just buy from the private sector for way cheaper
>Turkey/Saudi Arabia/etc
>buys space flights and ISS stays from private sector, which is the microwave food equivalent of a space program
JAXA and CNSA are the only efficient national space programs. JAXA does science while choosing not to develop their own space stations, manned programs, etc because they are a part of the ISS program anyway. CNSA has a huge budget and ambitions and is not shackled by election cycles gutting them every 4 years. NASA is obviously a huge grift as well, not as bad as ESA, but still pretty bad.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:36:07 UTC No. 16529821
>>16529818
>This completely deletes the issue with the adhesive identified on previous flight tests, as there isn't any adhesive in these areas. This also allows SpaceX to install the insulation and ablative sublayers beneath the joints, as these needed to be omitted when the tiles were adhered.
pic related shows the tile pins between sections
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:38:36 UTC No. 16529825
>>16529820
Every single agency needs to burn tens of billions into their own GPS, just because, even when GPS is readily available to most.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:39:39 UTC No. 16529827
I post it again here
>SpaceX FCC Authorization Technical Annex
Turns out spaceX will need AT LEAST two depots to get HLS to the moon
Two depot starships get refueled in LEO, then one of them go to FTO (144.000 km orbit) moonship will be filled In LEO by one depot starship, and then again by another depot starship in FTO, to make it to the moon
FCC thinks it takes "high teens" starship launches, and it would last "months or years" to be complete, only if starship has the payload capacity of 100-150T to LEO
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:39:44 UTC No. 16529828
>>16529821
>There are also seven horizontal seams on the nosecone that have been intentionally kept, as these are related to the heat shield geometry.
> If you look closely at the seams on the nosecone, you'll notice that the tiles above the seam are larger than the tiles below it. As the interlocking tiles continue up, they progressively shrink, and another break resets it again.
>This is why the new ship's nosecone retains the horizontal seams, while the tank section has largely had them removed.
nosecone has horizontal seams in the heatshield so that they don't need as many different sizes of heatshield tiles
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:40:16 UTC No. 16529829
>>16529827
it's over
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:41:39 UTC No. 16529831
>>16529827
how many depots would it be for Mars? 10?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:43:28 UTC No. 16529832
>>16529831
Just extrapolate using the distance between Earth and Mars.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:43:55 UTC No. 16529833
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:44:56 UTC No. 16529834
>>16529828
>The upgraded ship has approximately 18,500 tiles.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:48:59 UTC No. 16529835
hey, just checking, will they attempt an orbit next test flight?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:49:33 UTC No. 16529836
>>16529834
>The tiny tiles are primarily used on the areas of Starship where SpaceX uses external stringers to brace the walls. These are specifically found over the dome welds, which were discussed in our article about Starship's tanks.
>The new design's stringers are exposed, which means that there is a ridged surface on the ship. Despite this irregular surface, SpaceX has figured out a way to install tiles without an adhesive.
the tiny tiles are not for covering the sections between barrel sections >>16529818
but actually for external stringers that reinforce areas where dome walls are welded into the sides of the tanks
that was covered with a steel plate previously and tiles were glued on top of that metal plate (did not know this)
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:49:56 UTC No. 16529837
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:50:49 UTC No. 16529838
>>16529837
God dammit, thanks
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:50:59 UTC No. 16529839
>>16529836
the external stringers for a previous ship design (I guess these were then covered with a steel plate for tile gluing)
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:52:52 UTC No. 16529840
>>16529839
>Between each external stringer, sets of attachment pins are installed for these tiny tiles. Essentially, pins go wherever the stringers do not.
>The tiny tiles are specifically sized to slot between the external stringers.
>These tiny tiles are not used on the seams between barrel sections, as has been assumed by many.
new stringer design with tiny pins for the tiny tiles
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:56:00 UTC No. 16529843
rendering showing the tiny tiles over external tank stringers
the tininess of the tiles is also dependant on the stringer sizes
seems like there are quite many different tile sizes at this point
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 14:58:07 UTC No. 16529844
shuttle 2.0
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:01:17 UTC No. 16529852
>These tiles essentially cover the entire region above the fuel header tank's mounting structure. As such, the liquid oxygen header tank's isolated cavity in the nosecone is completely surrounded by heat tiles. These may serve to insulate the cavity to some degree, since SpaceX has even gone as far as putting tiles beneath a pressure vent, so it likely has some importance.
>Note that in the photo below, Ship 33's nosecone tiles are incomplete. This image is being used for the sake of an angle-matched comparison.
tiles cover the nosecone more fully now
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:03:20 UTC No. 16529854
>>16529839
>>16529840
>>16529847
All the different tilles is getting a little bit too shuttle 2.0 for my liking.
I hope spaceX can basically print these things.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:05:10 UTC No. 16529856
>>16529808
>Some of them being eaten alive from short positions.
that's a skill issue
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:06:48 UTC No. 16529857
>>16529854
would be interesting to see some kind of statistic about the number of unique tiles on the different prototypes and if this has been going up or down
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:06:58 UTC No. 16529858
>>16529854
Everything will depends on tile state after reentry and I don't think we will know for sure until successful catch
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:07:03 UTC No. 16529859
>>16529846
Space is hard
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:07:21 UTC No. 16529860
>>16529827
Oh wow it's fucking over. Is SpaceX saying this or just the FCC (that hates them)
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:07:55 UTC No. 16529861
>>16529860
SpaceX
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:09:17 UTC No. 16529862
>>16529827
If this is true, then make a 12 meter ship and privatize the entire site and road then, jfc.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:09:56 UTC No. 16529864
>>16529861
It's over
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:09:56 UTC No. 16529865
>>16529831
mars trips wont require bringing the return propellant so it's significantly fewer launches iirc
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:09:59 UTC No. 16529866
>>16529686
>>16529800
I've seen 4PM Jan 10 seriously put forth as the launch date. But I'd rather it be on Saturday just so I don't have to worry about my work schedule.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:10:24 UTC No. 16529868
>>16529825
most countries should invest in ground based navigation systems and use gps/beidou/etc to supplement them
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:13:55 UTC No. 16529871
>>16529827
>FCC thinks it takes "high teens" starship launches, and it would last "months or years" to be complete, only if starship has the payload capacity of 100-150T to LEO
Because who would know better than the Federal Cryogenics Comission, amirite?
>
Wait, what?
You say the C doesn't stand for cryogenics? They only deal with radio transmissions?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:16:38 UTC No. 16529874
>bike cuck
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:17:01 UTC No. 16529875
space bicycles
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:17:54 UTC No. 16529876
https://x.com/ISROSpaceflight/statu
>Though the star of tonight's PSLV-C60 launch is obviously the SpaDeX mission, there are 24 other non-separating POEM payloads on this flight, which are arguably just as cool as the primary mission!
>Debris Capture Robotic Manipulator:It consists of a robotic arm attached to the POEM-4 platform to demonstrate autonomous capture of space debris. Upon reaching its final orbit, a tethered space debris simulator will be released by POEM and the robotic arm will attempt to predict its motion and then try to autonomously capture the free floating (tethered) object.
>Relocatable Robotic Manipulator-TD (RRM-TD): RRM-TD aka Walking Robotic Arm is a technology demonstrator for the type of robotic arms that will be used on the Bharatiya Antariksh Station to help with its construction and maintenance. In this mission, it will demonstrate this on a small scale within a specified workspace consisting of a small number of grappling points.
>Compact Research Module for Orbital: In this experiment, ISRO will attempt to germinate and study the growth of cowpea seeds in space. It consists of 8 cowpea seeds in a temperature controlled environment inside a sealed box fitted with cameras and sensors to monitor the humidity, O2 and CO2 concentration, soil moisture, etc. The experiment will last 5-7 days until the seeds germinate and reach the two-leaf stage, i.e. when the first pair of leaves (cotyledons) emerge from the seeds.
> Rudra 1.0 HPGP and VYOM-2U:Rudra 1.0 HPGP will test out Bellatrix's high-performance green propulsion system. It consists of a 1N thrust 220s ISP green propellant thruster, which will demonstrate steady-state thruster firing for a minimum of 50 seconds. VYOM-2U will demonstrate a hydrogen peroxide based monopropellant thruster (1.1N thrust, >250s ISP) developed by Manastu Space as a safer alternative to hydrazine based monopropellant thrusters.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:24:13 UTC No. 16529880
more countries should get in on monitoring space traffic. there's a whole industry for it that you can sell your data to.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:24:19 UTC No. 16529881
>>16529837
are they just not that concerned about its ability to reach orbit because its not a problem? are they more interested in reentry and landing or something, so why stretch the flight out?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:24:21 UTC No. 16529882
>>16529843
>seems like there are quite many different tile sizes at this point
AH HELP ME CSI STARBASEMAN
I'M GOING INSANE
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:28:46 UTC No. 16529885
>>16529751
He just needs to subject changed. Making schedule predictions that everyone, including himself, knows are wrong is a good way to get everyone to focus on those instead of the other stuff.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:30:33 UTC No. 16529886
>>16529881
the priority is reusability
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:30:49 UTC No. 16529887
>>16529797
Won't those countries just purchase space on China's knockoffs of SpaceX vehicles? Even if they're not as good as what SpaceX has, it's still access.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:33:36 UTC No. 16529890
>>16529876
i dont understand. which payload is the designated shitting street for their crew vehicle?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:35:59 UTC No. 16529892
So Musk uses a burner to defend and praise himself in his own comments, nobody says anything here
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:37:31 UTC No. 16529893
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:38:50 UTC No. 16529894
>>16529893
How is this image related to the post?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:40:32 UTC No. 16529897
>>16529894
Because small pp.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:48:37 UTC No. 16529903
>>16529769
She's a pop culture explaining physicist. That's her real audience. The audience that needs shit drawn with crayons to get a tiny grasp on it.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:50:38 UTC No. 16529906
>>16529903
*pop science. I'm fucking hungry and waiting for my dinner to stop being liquid magma.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:51:10 UTC No. 16529907
>>16529827
the bronyguy5 was right all along
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:55:36 UTC No. 16529911
>>16529540
At 10M customers, averaging $110/mo in subscription costs (weighted average to account for variances between maritime and very large customers such as airlines and D2C carrier partnerships), you'd get an approximated revenue of $1,100,000,000 or $1.1Bn per month or $13.2Bn per year. This would be the floor for Starlink for revenue by end of 2025. If SpaceX were to start launching Gen3 big Starlink satellites by mid 2025 to orbit, then, by the end of 2026, SpaceX will generate revenues likely up to 1.25-1.5x that of 2025 as Gen3 satellites are expected to 10x the bandwidth and oversubscription potential per satellite. Ie, 2026 projected revenues at annual rates would be approximated at $18.15Bn. Accounting for the fact they've dropped around $5-7Bn on the Starship program and Starbase thus far since 2018, and accounting for all their other costs and network upkeep/management requirements. It's probably safe to say that by 2026, SpaceX will have the capacity to completely decouple from the launch market as their primary revenue source, with it making up the latter 3rd with Starlink making up their core operating revenue instead. At least until Starship starts flying routinely enough that flights to Moon and Mars add a new leg of revenue to their business; split three ways in the 2030s between commercial transport for colonization, transport services for public/private sector in general, and Starlink.
I don't think we've yet to have seen a privately owned company that engages across such a strategic element of the industry for public and private sector capacities, that will have the ability to disconnect from launch services as a revenue consideration. The R&D value of that alone is probably why so many banks and billionaires are clawing hand over first, to try and invest into SpaceX. The closest example is Rockefeller with Standard Oil, but unlike standard oil, aerospace is the kind of technology and giant you can't break up easily because of ITAR/EAR.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 15:58:30 UTC No. 16529915
>>16529911
oh boy, guess we're at the point where people who don't understand export regulations strt talking about ITAR. give me a fucking break
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:00:23 UTC No. 16529917
Musk is actually pathetic and I mean it unironically this time. >>16529892
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:01:20 UTC No. 16529918
>>16529901
Streams up
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:04:06 UTC No. 16529921
>>16529915
You're misunderstanding something anon. I'm not talking about exporting anything. I'm saying that its impossible to break up SpaceX even though its basically speed running the Standard Oil path, due to centralization of too many key technologies and talents in a way where attempting to break it up into chunks would lead to major complications for who gets new ownership and how its vetted/assigned. You could do that with Oil, because its fucking oil. You can't designate national security classified secrets risks to oil, that's idiotic. But you can do that to rockets and satellites. Essentially, SpaceX is on a path towards a natural monopoly that will likely eclipse even Standard Oil in a way that the government and its various actors are ill-prepared to deal with, and will be thirsting to wet their beaks for their constituents as being the Davids who took down the great Goliath. Also, I said ITAR and EAR.
But since you clearly know better, explain to the class.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:04:08 UTC No. 16529922
>>16529917
fuck off
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:06:14 UTC No. 16529925
>>16529917
This is his problem, not mine or yours. Personally, I'm just waiting for the next IFT.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:07:02 UTC No. 16529926
>>16529917
discord troon
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:08:44 UTC No. 16529929
>>16529876
>Bharatiya Antariksh Station
Why do indian names sound/look so shit? even russia and china have better names for their space stuff.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:10:02 UTC No. 16529933
>>16529892
He's just copying his new best bud trump.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:10:30 UTC No. 16529934
>>16529931
Why the shit color?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:11:04 UTC No. 16529937
>>16529931
Are they doing it a night so you can't see you the trash and shit around the rocket site?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:12:45 UTC No. 16529942
Okay Im jumping back in the love SpaceX hate Elon boat he is such a cuck soiboy
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:14:39 UTC No. 16529943
>>16529921
ITAR/EAR are export classification categories and things that are classified S/TS are different. What you export whether its hardware, software, engineering drawings, & even non technical documents gets reviewed and assigned an HTS based on it's function and the technical detail associated with it. People think 'muh rocket injector plates are ITAR' and just assume every single piece of data that makes it up is ITAR or secured information and that's just not true. The amount of true ITAR data that SpaceX generates is fucking tiny compared to the amount of ITARand classified work that's happening within the existing DoD industrial base.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:19:38 UTC No. 16529944
There is absolutely no fucking way he gets clearance btw. Emotionally unstable and obviously vulnerable cuck
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:21:09 UTC No. 16529947
>>16529901
T-10:00
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:21:44 UTC No. 16529948
>>16529944
Musk? I thought the plan was for him and vivek to be advisors only, why would they need clearance for that?
B4RK0N at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:23:22 UTC No. 16529949
At this rate. With the current plan. You will fail at populating Mars(if that's even possible given current space faring tech).
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:24:13 UTC No. 16529951
>>16529943
Yeah, I know that you retard. I'm saying that breaking up an aerospace company of the magnitude of SpaceX would be infinitely harder, because of trust issues with technology for the new players who may inherit it.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:27:45 UTC No. 16529956
>>16529952
Artifact of British Colonization. Where only the British were allowed to dress posh and had access to high quality textiles. Generationally ingrained to be second class. Also, Indian genes have the propensity to lead to fat deposits around the belly almost exclusively while the rest of the body remains thin. This leads to asymmetric bodies and you get what you get. Indians are middle heavy, and most clothes aren't designed with that in mind.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:28:16 UTC No. 16529958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5h
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:28:33 UTC No. 16529959
>>16529677
>for the company founded by Jeff Bezos nearly a quarter of a century ago
You now remember Blue wanted LC-39A and patented drone ship landings
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:31:11 UTC No. 16529963
NORMINAL SAAR
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:32:01 UTC No. 16529966
>>16529961
do the needful
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:34:23 UTC No. 16529968
what's with indian einstein?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:35:02 UTC No. 16529970
when will the first indian Mars city be founded?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:35:44 UTC No. 16529973
>>16529951
LM, Boeing, RTX, NG, L3, ULA, Blue, etc... could all take pieces. Hell spacex, is smaller than some divisions of the big players. Or the gov't can nationalize it. Sure space, is harder than oil but the infrastructure is already there for it's launch vehicles and single satellite production line to be distributed.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:37:18 UTC No. 16529975
>>16529717
hey don't roast elon.. he sent a banana on a suborbital path..
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:37:43 UTC No. 16529976
>>16529968
he's taking a break from working on inventing indoor plumbing
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:42:24 UTC No. 16529978
>>16529944
Didn't NASA already have the FBI do a clearance investigation into Musk after the "smoking pot" incident on the Joe Rogan podcast?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:42:35 UTC No. 16529979
i cant believe we're watching india conduct a test straight out of the early 1960s
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:45:52 UTC No. 16529983
>>16529979
The cargo cult is gonna cargo cult.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:47:56 UTC No. 16529985
>>16529983
thats not what a cargo cult is. a cargo cult has no idea what they're doing.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:54:19 UTC No. 16529990
>>16529952
>>16529956
It's literally the same at SpaceX, or even worse, where people are casually wearing hoodies.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 17:09:41 UTC No. 16529994
>>16529886
then the delay for orbit makes sense. up and down is what they want to practice at this point. around and around can wait until thats solid.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 17:15:30 UTC No. 16529998
>>16529985
>Indians pretending to be 1960s Americans
I stand by my cargo cult statement.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 17:23:31 UTC No. 16530002
>>16529827
https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLoun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdU
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 17:24:42 UTC No. 16530003
>>16530002
pic from the 2017 IAC presentation talking about highly elliptic parking orbit
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 17:25:02 UTC No. 16530004
>>16529795
Pretty sure that's enough bandwidth to update the targeting of a Geran mid flight. No more reliance on cell towers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OJ
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 17:41:03 UTC No. 16530009
>>16529827
Arrest elon musk now and cancel all FCC licenses. This is absurd
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 17:41:13 UTC No. 16530010
>>16530002
>linking shiddit
Kys
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 17:42:56 UTC No. 16530011
>>16529917
But you samefag here all the time
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 17:43:42 UTC No. 16530013
>>16530011
Sorry but I dont. Infact Ive been gone for a month or two now
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 17:51:37 UTC No. 16530018
>>16529721
We'll stop calling them IFTs when they go orbital.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 18:22:22 UTC No. 16530049
>>16529721
Starship 7
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 18:26:01 UTC No. 16530051
>>16529952
not a tie in sight, just jeets living in the moment
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 18:35:37 UTC No. 16530055
>>16529844
Not really. Starship is being vigorously tested and iterated on until it becomes perfect. Shuttle didn't have the backing or budget for that.
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 18:36:28 UTC No. 16530056
>>16529846
Starship is setting out to achieve something completely different, whereas NG is just a Saturn V but with Falcon landing legs.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 18:41:42 UTC No. 16530060
>>16529967
why the fuck is it called spadex?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 18:47:08 UTC No. 16530062
>>16530061
Wrong correlation + frog
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 18:52:52 UTC No. 16530067
>>16530060
SPAce Docking EXperiment
I'm sure one letter away from SpaceX is pure coincidence!
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 18:59:26 UTC No. 16530073
>>16530067
So we get to see the docking attempt, or do we just have to wait for them to tell us how it went? I'm curious to see them speedrun a real space program, all memes aside.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 19:04:12 UTC No. 16530075
>>16530060
"Space Docking Experiment"
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 19:14:02 UTC No. 16530084
>>16529820
Europe could have a competent SpaceX competitor and the large major of Europeans wouldn't care or have any sort of national pride
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 19:14:55 UTC No. 16530085
>>16530084
95% of your globbed population believes the Moon landings were faked.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 19:32:42 UTC No. 16530091
>>16530083
name two
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 19:33:43 UTC No. 16530093
>>16530090
you will never go to mars anyway so its a moot (faggot) point
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 19:34:46 UTC No. 16530094
>>16530093
i seriously doubt elon will either (maybe X10506B or whatever his kids name is will dough)
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 19:39:20 UTC No. 16530097
>>16530090
I wonder how his ketamine and Adderall addiction will work in space lol
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 19:43:26 UTC No. 16530098
>>16530085
Kek struck a nerve eurofag?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 19:44:51 UTC No. 16530099
>>16530090
> calling someone emotionally compromised
> posts pic of whatever the fuck that cartoon is
> actually retarded anon
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 19:53:33 UTC No. 16530103
>>16530090
you aren't invited tranny
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 19:58:39 UTC No. 16530107
>>16530080
>Aerospace company
Gypsy water heater thieves.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 20:04:47 UTC No. 16530112
>>16530103
>>16530099
get elons nuts off your chin lil bro
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 20:14:21 UTC No. 16530117
>16530090
(you)
>>16530099
you shut your lying mouth, pretending to not know.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 20:19:46 UTC No. 16530129
>>16530090
sex with Jenny
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 20:26:46 UTC No. 16530138
>>16529677
>no full duration static fire
>no hops
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 20:27:27 UTC No. 16530141
>>16529827
>>16530002
>the 17 refuelings number includes propellant for Starship to return to Earth, which isn't part of the HLS mission
oh look spaceguy5 used his "insider knowledge" to deliberaly mislead again
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 20:28:41 UTC No. 16530142
>>16530129
*lovemaking
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 20:30:26 UTC No. 16530144
>>16530138
>nails it perfectly first time
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 20:31:17 UTC No. 16530146
>>16530144
>no test landing on a cheap ground landing site
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 20:36:47 UTC No. 16530153
>>16530149
>booster off-shore divert
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 20:37:32 UTC No. 16530154
>>16530142
robots cant love
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 20:39:52 UTC No. 16530155
>>16530154
neither can women but that doesnt stop people from marrying them
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 21:17:42 UTC No. 16530175
>>16530155
Can you?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 21:20:07 UTC No. 16530177
>>16529698
>not mentioning muh starship!
who gives a shit. New Glenn follows Falcons paradigm that's why they're compared. In addition the video is 90% about their motivations to go to space. stop sucking musks dick
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 21:22:36 UTC No. 16530180
>>16529717
>What's the plan? Launch an empty Starship with no atmosphere inside and a single banana?
Argument invalid
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 21:23:50 UTC No. 16530183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irk
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 21:24:04 UTC No. 16530184
>>16529803
This aged poorly
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 21:27:59 UTC No. 16530186
>3 day all boards ban for reporting the schizo tourist as trolling outside of /b/
Retard jannies.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 21:32:07 UTC No. 16530189
>>16530177
pretty fucking relevant as it uses methane as propellant and has already been launched 6 times and methane was specifically brought up as being more efficient than kerosene
the "motivations" are even more retarded, if you can do O'Neill cylinders you sure as fuck have enough launch capability to have a mars base
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 21:33:23 UTC No. 16530190
>>16530187
Even better than SMART Reuse!
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 21:36:41 UTC No. 16530193
>>16530187
>jeet in UAE
literally a slave, lol
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 21:47:56 UTC No. 16530197
>>16530193
>passport got redeemed
The sad part is that this isn't even a joke. Really makes you wonder why the government of India, a nuclear superpower, won't do anything about it.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 21:48:00 UTC No. 16530198
>>16530189
New Glenn is a competitor to the Falcons. That's why it's compared.
>launched 6 times
don't care
It's funny how you're not capable of basic reasoning
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 22:07:06 UTC No. 16530213
>>16530002
what if they just
stayed on the moon until they got refueled
Worst case scenario: Make a LH2 first stage to send starships back to Earth
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 22:10:24 UTC No. 16530217
>>16530198
the market is launching mass, its going to compete with Starship
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 22:11:21 UTC No. 16530218
>>16530198
New Glenn is not a competitor to Falcon 9 until it can demonstrably sustain a similar launch cadence and/or upmass.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 22:14:55 UTC No. 16530219
>>16529717
give it to me straight sfg... should I unironically worry about this or it's just a nothingburger?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 22:16:09 UTC No. 16530224
>>16530219
fuck, linked the wrong post, I meant >>16529827
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 22:27:27 UTC No. 16530232
>>16529726
zlop
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 22:28:41 UTC No. 16530233
It is strange how Elon expected Mk3 to go orbital (with no booster?) and engines that didnt work. Now he has an orbital rocket and refuses to go orbital
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 22:38:02 UTC No. 16530237
>>16530233
7 palabras
S C A M M E R
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 22:39:03 UTC No. 16530238
Answer me
>>16530220
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 22:50:58 UTC No. 16530250
>>16529717
imagine this anon's surprise when he learns that were supposed to be on Mars in 1980, thus NASA is 44 years late on their promises, more than an entire order of magnitude late than Musk is.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 23:03:24 UTC No. 16530263
>>16529846
everyone I talk to irl makes fun of cybertruck but I think it’s cool. I don’t think it’s very practical as a truck but I love how wackadoodle it is.
It’s something you’d look at in the concept room and say
>yeah this looks too retarded
but they shipped it anyways. And that actually makes it based lol
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 23:11:15 UTC No. 16530273
>>16530263
I keep waiting to see somebody hauling a 4wheeler in the bed because it looked cool when they were showing it off before launch.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 23:33:32 UTC No. 16530281
>>16530273
Around here it's a soccer mom vehicle. I've never seen a man driving one. Not even a soi man. It's all soccer moms. Don't think that was the market they were going for but if it makes sales, might as well take advantage of it.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 23:38:45 UTC No. 16530287
>>16530281
You could fit so much Costco/SamsClub groceries in one of those.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 23:45:33 UTC No. 16530293
>>16530281
I’ve noticed it’s a bunch of asians in the real estate business behind the wheel
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 23:48:29 UTC No. 16530294
>>16530263
It looks the way it does because people who will buy an F-150, Silverado or Tundra aren't going to buy an EV truck regardless of how good or bad it is.
Why pander to a consumer base that isn't going to buy your product?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 23:52:02 UTC No. 16530296
any right wing "influencer" is just a grifter
as all true right wingers have said the n word way too many times to be a public figure
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 23:53:09 UTC No. 16530297
This forced "subtard" meme from musk is beyond cringe
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 00:01:33 UTC No. 16530305
>>16530263
people are like this in general. half the people love it, and the other half hate it. everyone needs to have an opinion
>>16530293
in AZ it's mostly small business owners who plaster their business advertising on it for a tax write off.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 00:17:26 UTC No. 16530317
>>16530294
What makes you think the Cybertruck was aimed at them? From other posts, it looks like it found its own market segment of Asians and moms, which sounds like it's really competing against SUVs rather than pickups.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 00:19:03 UTC No. 16530319
>>16530294
Tesla missed the perfect opportunity imo. No truck manufacturer can make the little practical utility trucks that were made back in the 90’s/80’s because of emission standards. IE Nissan D21, the OG 22r Toyota pick up, the older rangers.
>inb4 these trucks aren’t desired
Bullshiiiiit. There’s a reason these trucks continue to be popular in the used car market. Suburban dads just want a dead simple, bare bones smol truck to commute to work, pick shit up from Home Depot, drop shit off at the dump, and maybe move some furniture.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 00:20:27 UTC No. 16530320
>>16530317
There are moms that drive F-150 all over the US.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 00:21:11 UTC No. 16530321
>>16530319
Tesla can't make a compact truck either because battery range scales with footprint.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 00:22:33 UTC No. 16530324
>>16530321
?
battery range scales with the amount of battery you put in
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 00:27:35 UTC No. 16530327
>>16530321
You don’t need that much range for that kinda truck. I know, I have one. It’s utility/commuter. Doesn’t need power steering or any of the other electrical bullshit. 200 mile range is plenty and totally achievable.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 00:27:42 UTC No. 16530328
>>16529717
don't worry about it, H-1Bs from India (the brightest ones) will solve that problem
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 00:36:03 UTC No. 16530330
>>16530319
This is why Ford struck gold with the Maverick.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 00:38:48 UTC No. 16530333
>>16530319
I really like the design of the Telo EV truck. It seems like a clever use of space that takes full advantage of the benefits of electric powertrains.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 00:41:09 UTC No. 16530334
>>16530321
I don't think you realize how much range Tesla's have, a compact truck would be more than big enough for for their skateboad design.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 00:41:10 UTC No. 16530335
>>16530319
The Cybertruck as initially meant to be a quick cash grab. It would be inexpensive to build but sold at a high profit in large numbers. It ended up taking far longer that predicted to start production because it was far more difficult than predicted to manufacture. It also ended up costing more than predicted, cutting into the margins quite a bit. Had they been able to start rolling them off the assembly line a few months after the announcement, they would have been insanely popular. The delays destroyed all that initial momentum and people who want an EV truck now have many other options.
The financial press had several articles today about large investors in Tesla wanting to replace Musk. Not because of any of the tweet stuff from the last few days but because he's not actually doing any work as CEO. The office is vacant and Tesla is somewhat rudderless now. For this, Musk expects 330 million options worth over $100 billion. That's a lot of money for someone that's basically a company mascot.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 00:41:49 UTC No. 16530337
>>16529854
they've already demonstrated on 3 flights in a row the ability for starship to survive reentry with several missing tiles
the only time a shuttle was killed by tile damage was from significant leading edge damage, and with flight 4 especially we saw that plasma getting inside the forward flaps is not a guaranteed mission kill. all 3 successful reentries have had plasma intrusion through the flap hinges and yet the stainless steel just doesn't care. with the addition of a backup ablative layer under the tiles, any damage to the heatshield is unlikely to kill a vehicle outright and instead just contribute to longer turnaround times (still bad but much less bad)
>>16529881
starship has gotten within only a few % of orbital energy on flights 3, 4, 5, and 6. if there was no atmospheric drag then the periapsis would be less than 100km below the surface, which is near enough to orbit that calling the trajectory suborbital is almost disingenuous. up until now they haven't gone to full orbit because they have to prove in-space 0G engine relights before regulators would approve orbit. Flight 7 is following flight 6's trajectory because 1) the license update gave them permission to fly 2 back-to-back missions with the same profile without a big delay for approval of the second, 2) they want to test the V2 heatshield and flaps at least once before going for a catch, and 3) going orbital is mostly a technicality at this point anyways; until they have a payload to launch there isn't really any difference. the amount of energy the heatshield has to dissipate is still 99% of orbital velocity so it doesn't affect test accuracy
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 00:43:13 UTC No. 16530339
>>16530324
Batteries take up space. If the footprint of the truck is smaller, you'd need to make the battery taller to compensate. The smaller footprint might mean a somewhat smaller battery capacity would be needed but not all that much since it's the batteries themselves that make up a large portion of the vehicle's weight.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 00:44:25 UTC No. 16530341
>>16529827
Starship is optimized to do a one way trip to Mars. It's a stupid idea for the moon. They should just use starship to put a smaller 3rd stage into orbit that will land on the moon and come back to leo
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 00:44:34 UTC No. 16530342
>>16530335
Cybertrucks are selling extremely well.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 00:47:11 UTC No. 16530347
>>16530335
cybertruck is the best selling electric truck and best selling vehicle over $100K
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:00:39 UTC No. 16530351
>>16530347
>If we narrow down the criteria enough, we can show that we're number one!
While you are stanning for Musk, you really should be at BO. This level of cope usually comes from Bezos Magic Carnival Rides Incorporated.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:03:34 UTC No. 16530352
>>16530351
you were the one that talked about "other optinos"
what else would that mean if not other EV trucks?
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:13:49 UTC No. 16530357
>>16529769
She is a retard who makes videos for retards
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:15:45 UTC No. 16530358
>>16529698
100% paid video, Jeff wants to build awareness of nooglin
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:16:34 UTC No. 16530359
>>16530358
or just an autistic german female professional
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:17:35 UTC No. 16530360
Kek, I can't wait for Elon to repeal ITAR so he can finally lay off all those subtarded woke right cumskin engineers. The world will be in awe of SpaceX's superior Hindu engineering.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:22:06 UTC No. 16530362
>>16530360
>subtarded
love this meme
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:24:08 UTC No. 16530363
>>16530360
pakistan >>> india
ایشیا کا بہترین ملک۔
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:25:49 UTC No. 16530366
>>16530335
>For this, Musk expects 330 million options worth over $100 billion.
Founders get a big cut, duh.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:28:41 UTC No. 16530369
>>16530342
They're selling about 80,000 of them a year, which is pretty good for a $100,000 vehicle. The truck market in the US is just plain silly though: the only gas or diesel powered truck the Cybertruck is currently outselling is the Nissan Titan, but it's closing in on the Toyota Tundra.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:32:43 UTC No. 16530372
>>16530366
should be even bigger, desu
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:34:37 UTC No. 16530373
>>16530360
>repeal ITAR
that would be really funny, and a nice shitstorm...
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:39:24 UTC No. 16530375
Does anyone remember the orbital assembly meme from early /sfg/?
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:41:37 UTC No. 16530377
>>16530372
it will be, right now Musk has been basically working for free for a few years after vesting the 2018 compensation package fully
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:42:18 UTC No. 16530379
>>16530375
Stacking kickstages?
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:48:12 UTC No. 16530382
>>16530379
Yup lol I look back fondly on those days. It was so comfy
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:48:31 UTC No. 16530383
>>16530379
Stages are built to be stacked.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:51:25 UTC No. 16530385
I can't believe inbred right wing retards were actually dumb enough to trust Elon when obviously he's a pro-immigration immigrant himself lmao. Enjoy getting replaced, racist bastards.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:55:03 UTC No. 16530386
You know that guy who was screeching about "coordinated discord ops" when people were trying to be on topic? I'm pretty sure that was, in fact, projection. Come on guys, New Glenn's gonna fly in like a week and they plan to try a booster landing on the first flight (barge), and the next Starship flight will follow just a few days later.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:55:32 UTC No. 16530387
Thats why I voted for Kamala, she won't betray us for those friggin indians
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:56:34 UTC No. 16530388
>>16530387
Sir, who are you replying to?
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:57:59 UTC No. 16530391
>>16530386
The way the shadow of the plume races up the rocket is so cool. Unintentional kino with that spotlight on the fairing
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 02:01:37 UTC No. 16530395
>>16530387
This. I want Elon to replace us *LEGALLY*.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 02:03:12 UTC No. 16530397
>>16530375
one of these actually had some rough delta v numbers but I don't have it
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 02:16:09 UTC No. 16530401
>>16530386
>New Glenn's gonna fly in like a week
no it's not lol
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 02:19:49 UTC No. 16530405
>New Glenn will go into orbit b4 Starship
can't believe it man
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 02:32:35 UTC No. 16530414
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 02:35:25 UTC No. 16530417
>>16530405
Is it really so hard to believe? Blue Origin's been developing New Glenn as a competitor to Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy, and they began doing that in about 2012. By 2016, they'd settled on the current New Glenn configuration with a reusable booster and expendable second stage. Starship as we know it didn't settle on its current design configuration until 2018/2019, and it's still the subject of an aggressive R&D program to create a viable, high flight rate Entry, Descent, and Landing schema for a reusable second stage.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 02:37:01 UTC No. 16530419
>>16530417
starship was essentially in orbit for the last couple flights, like just 2 more seconds of burn in the right spot would have done it. the perigee was positive anyways
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 02:42:19 UTC No. 16530425
>>16530395
Fuck, he's having another stupid twitter storm tonight. Why can't he just stop with that shit?
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 02:55:28 UTC No. 16530430
>>16530425
he's mentally broken
he needs a break
he needs to surround himself with people that aren't grifters, cheats, assholes
he needs to touch grass
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 02:56:50 UTC No. 16530431
Remember that time I said him getting political on twitter was retarded
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 02:57:10 UTC No. 16530433
>>16530397
Here you go.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 02:57:32 UTC No. 16530434
>>16530425
I checked his timeline: he isn't. Why the fuck are you lying?
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 02:58:39 UTC No. 16530435
>>16530431
I said it too desu
he doesn't comprehend that social media like x is about a 97% lurker, 3% poster ratio, and that 3% is extremely skewed towards idiots, hustlers, children, and bots. It's not reality. The moment I saw him using x polls as 'truth' I knew he was fucked
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 03:01:51 UTC No. 16530437
>>16530433
Good times
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 03:04:44 UTC No. 16530440
>>16530435
Yeah. And remember that when we said it we got hounded down by other idiots in here for saying it? I wonder what those fags are saying now that they realized what we knew 2 years ago
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 03:08:29 UTC No. 16530441
>>16530434
Keep looking.
Check the replies
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 03:09:46 UTC No. 16530443
>>16530437
It looks like the initial calculations were for storable prop kickstages too. If we get methalox kick stages like Impulse's Helios this gets a LOT spicier.
>>11590151
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 03:13:29 UTC No. 16530444
>>16530433
It's like that awful Human Centipede movie.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 03:14:59 UTC No. 16530446
>>16530443
lol this thread had a couple good ones
Also it's weird how I can look at a thread that's four years old and very reliably pick out my own posts and even fairly well recall the conversations.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 03:16:40 UTC No. 16530447
>>16530446
It's even weirder seeing posts that are recognizably yours that you had forgotten about and thinking "dang, that was a good one."
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 03:18:44 UTC No. 16530448
>>16530446
Could build a new ISS in a month with the F9
But doing that would embarrass too many people so they don't
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 03:53:13 UTC No. 16530462
>>16530435
Elon is the worlds most famous lolcow.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 03:53:28 UTC No. 16530463
>>16530460
To the degree that this is true it's because countries realize the optics of trying to extort a close Trump advisor are very bad. It's never been about product quality.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 04:01:20 UTC No. 16530465
>Ultimately, many who have endured years of subpar service from their local internet providers seem more than willing to put aside any concerns about Musk if he can offer them world-class speeds at a reasonable price.
>Murang’a, a mountainous rural county about 50 kilometers (30 miles) northeast of Nairobi, in August took advantage of a sale at a Kenyan supermarket chain to buy Starlink equipment for three dozen health centers. In Kenya, SpaceX is slashing prices and boosting marketing. Consumers can now buy receivers while shopping for groceries at hypermarkets such as Carrefour.
>“Installation is easy,” said Godfrey Gatacha, head of the county’s health products and technologies unit, adding that Murang’a pays about 8,000 Kenyan shillings ($62) for Starlink, about 27% less than for mobile operator Safaricom, and gets speeds ten times faster.
well that settles it
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 04:04:47 UTC No. 16530467
Musk doing the Lords work bringing internet to Africans
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 04:09:42 UTC No. 16530471
>>16530467
*bringing Internet to Africa without depending on African-maintained infrastructure
Starlink would probably be a godsend for white men building their own little colonies in the bush or dealing with the locals at village scale.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 04:34:29 UTC No. 16530480
>>16530385
>he's a pro-immigration immigrant himself
he's from South Africa, he's for sure against flooding this country with shit
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 04:39:04 UTC No. 16530482
>>16530475
yeah but when is ift-8?
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 04:40:52 UTC No. 16530483
>>16530465
>many who have endured years of subpar service from their local internet providers seem more than willing to put aside any concerns about Musk if he can offer them world-class speeds at a reasonable price.
no shit sherlock. do these journos ever hold a conversation with anyone from outside europe and north america?
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 04:45:08 UTC No. 16530484
>>16530460
>>16530465
>willing to put aside any concerns about Musk
WEF tranny wrote this
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 04:48:31 UTC No. 16530485
>>16530475
Honestly I'm not sure why it isn't sooner. Do they need to do a wet dress rehearsal? Refresh and recheck the pad systems? They did have that navigation/tower issue that stopped flight 6 from returning to the tower, and they haven't rehearsed a block 2 ship yet.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 05:06:02 UTC No. 16530491
>>16530488
2 6 1 lanches
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 05:18:27 UTC No. 16530497
>>16530465
Absolute unhinged journo take that the average person has "concerns about Musk"
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 05:37:20 UTC No. 16530503
>>16530488
T-2m
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 05:39:46 UTC No. 16530507
>>16530419
yeah but it didn't
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 05:58:08 UTC No. 16530513
>>16530419
"it didn't circularize its orbit" is just EDS cope considering Starship has already accomplished far more technically challenging tasks.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 06:00:41 UTC No. 16530514
>>16530483
You'd be lucky if they hold a conversation outside California.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 07:13:54 UTC No. 16530533
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18739
>When Raptor reaches 300 tons of thrust at liftoff, which Raptor 3.x can probably do (certainly Raptor 4 will), then it will have 10k metric tons of thrust at liftoff, which is 22.5M lb-F, almost exactly three times Saturn V.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 07:14:30 UTC No. 16530534
>>16530533
>raptor 4
chill out
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 07:55:11 UTC No. 16530550
>>16530533
All the thrust in the world and it still can't carry its ass out of LEO
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 08:05:12 UTC No. 16530556
>>16530530
PoE2 character name, to test out Starlink streaming for packet drop test.
>End of Year push
https://x.com/TurkeyBeaver/status/1
134 LAUNCHES!!!
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 08:06:14 UTC No. 16530557
>>16530556
For hard core run* as single packet loss can cause permadeath
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 09:19:53 UTC No. 16530626
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18739
>Let’s not get carried away!
>SpaceX will probably do ~99% of Earth payload to orbit in 2026, despite the rest of industry growing.
>Assuming rocket launches by competitors grow at their current rate, SpaceX will probably do 99.9% of payload to orbit in 10 years, but I hope I’m wrong. It would be better if other organizations also helped colonize Mars.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 09:21:58 UTC No. 16530629
>>16529726
Adrenochrome leftovers and troonshine
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 09:22:38 UTC No. 16530630
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18739
>A truly reusable orbital heat shield has never been made, but I think SpaceX has a decent chance of solving it in 2025 and solving it well in 2026
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 09:23:11 UTC No. 16530631
>>16530503
ah shit I missed it
he got away with it again
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 10:02:17 UTC No. 16530682
I wasnt convinced before but now I really do think Musk posts here. Its always the posts about worshipping him.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 10:06:11 UTC No. 16530688
>>16530682
I've seen a few generally positive assessments, but if that's the threshold for Worship, you're suffering a terminal case of EDS.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 10:07:33 UTC No. 16530690
>>16530530
Not content with giving his children cringe names, now he's done it for himself.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 10:08:51 UTC No. 16530691
>>16530530
>>16530690
He changes his username when he thinks its funny. He'll switch it again (probably back) in a day to a week.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 10:12:49 UTC No. 16530695
>>16530688
You try to cover your tracks but we all remember you posting the AI image of you with Mars in your hand like some kind of deity and putting repent in the message.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 10:14:27 UTC No. 16530697
>>16530695
You present a conundrum: what do you call the Streisand effect but for stuff that's actually wrong?
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 10:20:05 UTC No. 16530700
>>16530695
anon seek help, you are not well
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 10:32:36 UTC No. 16530711
>>16530697
Journalism.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 10:34:49 UTC No. 16530714
>>16530630
That's in Elon time, when they will actually solve it
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 10:43:49 UTC No. 16530723
>>16530714
When Elon suggests they'll solve a specific problem in a year, it means they don't know how to do it. They could do it in a year, they could do it in two, they could fail to crack it outright and can only offer partial year on year improvement with ups and downs. Only time will tell.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 11:21:43 UTC No. 16530752
>>16530485
they did spin prime both booster and ship, and they haven't done either on some previous flights. probably also waiting for the WB-57s to get to australia, they're going to be doing infrared tracking during reentry
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 11:29:24 UTC No. 16530755
>>16530317
>that apostrophe
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 11:42:24 UTC No. 16530763
>>16530417
It was actually in orbit. The perigee happened to intersect Urf, and as such it landed successfully.
Is BONG going to return to Urf without burning up?
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 12:21:47 UTC No. 16530791
Why does he always say this weird atheistic "I want to preserve consciousness" shit? It would be more based if he said he wanted to spread the word of God throughout the Milky Way, because it would make shitlibs go into total meltdown.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 12:22:27 UTC No. 16530792
>>16530530
Elon must really like the smell of his own farts, because he is high as fuck on it.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 12:24:20 UTC No. 16530794
>>16530791
Elon's idealism is in the abstract, rather than the concrete. He doesn't have a religious mission and doesn't want to own the libs or otherwise make a point. In plain english, he wants humans to survive even if humans or a cataclysmic natural disaster manage to destroy all life on Earth.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 12:27:02 UTC No. 16530796
>>16530794
Ok, but why does he always have to say this shit about "preserving consciousness"? Just fucking say humanity you autistic sperg.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 12:30:06 UTC No. 16530799
>>16530796
If you don't limit it to humans, a replicating artificial intelligence or post-human being would achieve the same goal.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 12:34:33 UTC No. 16530802
>>16530799
AI isn't human, demon.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 12:37:49 UTC No. 16530806
>>16530803
mogged
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 12:39:10 UTC No. 16530808
>>16530802
AI is just an intelligent machine. It's no more demonic than any other child coming out of its mother's womb.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 13:06:01 UTC No. 16530822
>>16530803
Russia curiously absent since they probably launched more astronauts than spaceX over the same period
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 13:12:05 UTC No. 16530823
>>16530822
russia derangement syndrome is real
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 13:12:52 UTC No. 16530824
>>16530822
>Russia curiously absent since they probably launched more astronauts than spaceX over the same period
Seeing as Russia was the only country with manned orbital spaceflight capability to the ISS from 2012 to 2020, you are correct. After Soyuz MS-16 in 2020, the Russian launch rate of Cosmonauts and Astronauts went off a cliff, with 30 people sent into space in ten launches over the last four years. In the same time period, SpaceX has launched 52.
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 13:14:43 UTC No. 16530825
>>16530822
If SpaceX launched less than 6 astronauts (which Soyuz MS-25 and MS-26 did), then yes.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 13:19:18 UTC No. 16530826
>>16530824
In the time between the Shuttle's retirement and the beginning of Crew Dragon operations, and assuming each seat on each Soyuz was occupied, Russia sent 102 astronauts and cosmonauts into space.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 13:29:29 UTC No. 16530829
>>16530796
It's sort of a Sagan style reasoning which can capture hearts and minds without getting so granular that others could protest it.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 13:35:53 UTC No. 16530832
>>16530791
He's probably one of those fags that believes in the technological singularity
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 13:39:40 UTC No. 16530833
>>16530822
>so pathetic that you have to count astronauts to manufacture a win
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 14:41:19 UTC No. 16530888
>>16530883
2026 it is then
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 14:43:05 UTC No. 16530890
>>16530883
first time for extensive testing?
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 14:52:12 UTC No. 16530899
>>16530898
nothing will stop them this time
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 15:03:15 UTC No. 16530908
Why is space YouTube so awful?
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 15:05:31 UTC No. 16530913
>>16530908
Remove the word "space" and you'll have the answer to your question.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 15:13:52 UTC No. 16530927
https://youtu.be/Hcsm1B8Z8d4
lmao
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 15:54:25 UTC No. 16530948
10 days
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 15:54:30 UTC No. 16530949
>>16530947
its over
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 15:55:00 UTC No. 16530951
>>16530947
If he had Indian geniuses on board, he wouldn't miss that goal.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 16:17:40 UTC No. 16530964
New Dreksler kino dropped.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 16:22:11 UTC No. 16530968
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/
>NEWS: SpaceX has shared that across all production facilities in 2024, SpaceX produced and sold 3.9 million Starlink customer kits.
>SpaceX is more than doubling the size of its Bastrop production facility (opening in 2025). This will add production capability of millions of customer kits each year to meet the growing demand.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 16:35:22 UTC No. 16530974
notice of intent to cancel sls is immenent
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 16:36:38 UTC No. 16530975
>>16530947
ITS OVER
>>16530968
FUCKING 60 Tbps capacity added each Starlink launch for V3 on Starship. Thats more than 20X for each of the Starlink v2 minis launched on F9. I think they launch like 18 of v2 mini as a time on F9. So 20X is 360 of those mini on each launch.
Shits gonna be a upgrade coming once Starship comes online. SpaceX can add 20-50X more customer base with Starship launching v3 with current 100Mbps setup. But more likely, they'll just bring Gigabit speeds while 3-5X the subscriber rate.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 16:38:16 UTC No. 16530977
>>16530975
>future
I assume they don't exist yet?
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 16:47:42 UTC No. 16530984
>>16530975
20 launch of Starlink Starship in 2025 = 50 Tb x 20 = 1 Pbps. They can hit 3X capacity with Starship launch alone. Then you'll get another 1X capacity with F9 Starlink launches too. So 4X capacity growth is what I'm expecting 2025.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 16:50:15 UTC No. 16530986
>>16530977
they probably do but makes no sense to launch with F9
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 16:50:49 UTC No. 16530988
>>16530984
30% of GLOBAL cruise ships use Starlink. Huge growth.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 16:51:50 UTC No. 16530991
>>16530977
v3 is so large that it doesnt fit on F9. Thats why they had the v2 mini instead.
4.6 million customers for Starlink now.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 16:53:11 UTC No. 16530995
>>16530991
v2 existed for a long time and it doesn't fit f9
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 16:54:53 UTC No. 16530997
>>16530947
If it wasn't for the two observations and their respective stand downs they probably would've beaten it
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 16:59:57 UTC No. 16530999
>>16530713
mk1 is going to be a boilerplate POS nothingburger mission
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 17:01:16 UTC No. 16531000
>>16530995
v2 mini exists.
The large on Starship will be V3.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 17:21:34 UTC No. 16531009
https://x.com/ENNEPS/status/1874095
These are staggering stats for SpaceX engine team.
>1764 engine tests
>189 in October alone (busiest)
>879 s longest duration test
>More than 1000 raptor engine tests
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 18:00:07 UTC No. 16531035
>>16530822
Once again Ivan, launching your own tank crews into the stratosphere does not make them cosmonauts.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 18:15:43 UTC No. 16531044
>reading comments about why india is poor
>someone said the government spends too much on spaceflight and not enough on gibs for the poor
the cancer is in every country
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 18:17:10 UTC No. 16531048
>>16531045
the texans, they yearn for the silicon mines
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 18:37:00 UTC No. 16531062
The next SpaceX launch isn't happening till NEXT YEAR
It's over for Muskrat
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 18:41:38 UTC No. 16531066
>>16531048
Okay but seriously why was the industry taken away from the great state of Texas and moved to taiwan? Cheaper?
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 18:46:27 UTC No. 16531067
Is there any public excitement for the New Glenn launch?
I'm wondering if we'll even need to make a launch thread for the tourists
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 19:05:10 UTC No. 16531075
>>16531067
It's not groundbreaking but a lot of people want competition for spacex
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 19:31:21 UTC No. 16531086
>>16529698
Bitch is a shameless grifter
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 19:32:58 UTC No. 16531088
>>16529775
>It's so expensive it's just a money suck
>Let's suck money for Musk who's totally not a grifter
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 19:33:41 UTC No. 16531089
>>16531076
no we should grow NOAA
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 19:51:47 UTC No. 16531093
>>16531066
Taiwan wanted a semiconductor industry and managed to make one with help from Philips.
Beyond that, their business model was different from the existing players, making them more attractive to partner with, and they have stayed competitive technologically.
I don't think the price of labor is a major factor.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 20:05:24 UTC No. 16531097
>>16531062
>plot twist: anon was australian
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 20:15:25 UTC No. 16531103
So looking at those claims that the Starship Moon lander will need "high teens" # of tanker flights to reach the moon & be able to come back, well even if true, so what? The whole plan with Starship is that it will be able to be mass produced & fairly rapidly reused. Need 19 tanker launches, well just build 19 tankers and launch them within a week of each other to the depots. For that matter, to support their Mars launches SpaceX wants to do SpaceX will need a lot more than 19 tankers anyways, and inbetween the launch windows for Mars transit that tanker capacity can easily be used for Moon missions instead.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 20:26:36 UTC No. 16531107
>>16531103
>well even if true, so what?
and the copium begins...
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 20:28:58 UTC No. 16531108
>>16531103
>fairly rapidly reused
That's the problem and they have to make sure not only ship is rapidly reusable, but the launch pad too.
Maybe tower breaks after 5 catches, who knows?
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 20:29:24 UTC No. 16531109
>>16531103
the HLS isn't coming back anyways
why would returning be part of the plan? stay there until the job is done
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 20:32:08 UTC No. 16531112
>>16531103
>so what?
so take a look at the shuttle, that's what. This will be the fate of of saarship
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 20:33:34 UTC No. 16531114
>>16531113
fuck off with your ip grabber
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 20:34:13 UTC No. 16531116
>>16531114
How is Strawpoll an IP grabber?
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 20:34:52 UTC No. 16531117
>>16531113
from rocket launches to age of wife and everything in between, 11-15 is the ultimate choice
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 20:35:54 UTC No. 16531118
>>16531114
>he says as he posts on 4chan.org
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 20:50:13 UTC No. 16531121
Why do I have the feeling now were gonna be in a rapid technological revolution period? Like every month to WEEKS something huge happens and it will get more and more crazier by the second.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:00:32 UTC No. 16531136
>>16531121
About damn time!
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:13:06 UTC No. 16531146
>>16531103
Nah that's a stupid mission design. A few tankers to go to mars is fine but 20 for the moon is stupid
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:13:44 UTC No. 16531149
good morning saars
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:15:33 UTC No. 16531151
>>16531149
good morning sir, please enjoy big beautiful rockets today
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:19:56 UTC No. 16531159
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:20:09 UTC No. 16531160
>>16531154
SAARS why no starlink in india ??
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:21:18 UTC No. 16531163
>>16531160
Starlink have been trying but India is very protectionist
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:22:12 UTC No. 16531165
>>16531153
>>16531154
>>16531156
elon "order of magnitude" musk does it again
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:24:34 UTC No. 16531168
>>16531156
He’s so cringe and reddit and gay
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:26:20 UTC No. 16531170
https://x.com/GraviticsInc/status/1
>2024 was a year of important milestones for Gravitics! We signed over $100M in contracts, launched our hardware to the ISS, signed a Space Act Agreement with NASA, completed work for the Space Force, and closed our internal PDR (Preliminary Design Review) for our first commercial module.
>These achievements would not have been possible without our team's dedication and hard work. Thank you to the Gravitics family for making this year a great success! 2025 here we come!
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:26:35 UTC No. 16531171
>>16531168
shut up fag
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:28:14 UTC No. 16531174
>>16530883
https://x.com/Alexphysics13/status/
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:32:01 UTC No. 16531182
>>16531154
these two videos aged like warm milk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vu
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:32:48 UTC No. 16531184
>>16531180
mons latreille is some small mountain in mare crisium
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:34:01 UTC No. 16531187
>>16531174
maybe spacex is just repeatedly testing it till it fails
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:35:41 UTC No. 16531188
>>16531180
>
Firefly’s first Blue Ghost mission, named Ghost Riders in the Sky, will deliver 10 science and technology instruments to the lunar surface as part of NASA’s Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) initiative. Upon launching, Blue Ghost will spend approximately 45 days in transit to the Moon, allowing ample time to conduct health checks on each subsystem and begin payload science. Blue Ghost will then land in Mare Crisium and operate payloads for a complete lunar day (about 14 Earth days). Following payload operations, Blue Ghost will capture imagery of the lunar sunset and provide critical data on how lunar regolith reacts to solar influences during lunar dusk conditions. The lander will then operate for several hours into the lunar night.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:49:38 UTC No. 16531196
>>16531117
King
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:50:31 UTC No. 16531198
>>16531174
Secret Raptor 4.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:50:57 UTC No. 16531199
>>16531188
>Upon launching, Blue Ghost will spend approximately 45 days in transit to the Moon
WTF
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 22:09:37 UTC No. 16531210
>>16531199
Weak rockets and shitty trajectories.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 22:49:28 UTC No. 16531242
>>16531174
>>16531176
that engine has a lot more pipes and wires sticking out of it than the last time I saw it. was... perhaps... tory right?
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 22:50:24 UTC No. 16531244
>>16530465
Fuck what am I paying 120$ a month for.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 22:53:31 UTC No. 16531246
>>16531160
Same reason they haven't let him build a gigafactory there yet. India is worried about becoming China 2.0 for cheap manufacturing and so they throw all kinds of roadblocks in the way of foreign business.
It's actually an admirable stance, but I think a doomed one. India could genuinely become a significant world power if they had a strong nationalist party with a charismatic leader pop up and gain control of the country. I think they're too internally conflicted for that to happen, however, and they very well may fall in the next four years to the Trump/Musk econo-diplomatic judo tag team.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 22:54:01 UTC No. 16531247
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 22:54:30 UTC No. 16531250
>>16530808
Ascribing way to much thought to yes or no code.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 23:01:07 UTC No. 16531261
>>16531170
Pointless when StarShip makes permanent LEO a waste of money.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 23:03:17 UTC No. 16531265
>>16531244
Well, you could always move to Kenya to get that cheaper Starlink, though that has quite a few obvious downsides lol.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 23:04:26 UTC No. 16531266
>>16531246
Hot fuck Indian bureaucrats only care about bribes. Study there deals with russia, only reason they have weapons is straight black mail. Look at there indigenous fucked up carriers and subs. Child porn and adultery is why India has a navy.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 23:05:28 UTC No. 16531268
>>16531265
Idk, if it comes with a wife.... Bunch looking for a husband on tinder.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 23:18:24 UTC No. 16531278
>b-b-but he shares memes without crediting the author reeee
unrelated, but I've seen this "criticism" about musk way too often already. I swear the EDS crowd might be one of the most retarded groups I've ever seen in my life.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 23:20:25 UTC No. 16531279
>>16531278
Does anyone share memes *with* crediting the author? More importantly, does anyone care? I don't get upset when someone re-posts a meme I made, I just think it's cool.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 23:23:45 UTC No. 16531282
>>16531154
This just looks like a normal population heatmap, only of the entire countries where Starlink exists.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 23:25:31 UTC No. 16531283
>>16531279
>I don't get upset when someone re-posts a meme I made
kek, I feel a warm feeling in my tummy when anons here post some OC I made
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 23:26:27 UTC No. 16531284
>>16531281
E*rthers have made development of them bureaucratically near-impossible
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 23:34:04 UTC No. 16531292
>>16531279
>does anyone care?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattno
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/07/
https://www.businessinsider.com/elo
https://futurism.com/the-byte/elon-
https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article
https://mobilesyrup.com/2022/05/30/
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 00:01:51 UTC No. 16531312
>/sfg/ est mort
this place is now empty...
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 00:06:20 UTC No. 16531319
ketamine binge is crazy
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 00:08:49 UTC No. 16531320
yuros from 2025, did starship finally go orbital?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 00:10:48 UTC No. 16531322
>>16531312
*checks calendar*
*checks clock*
*deductive reasoning activates*
This is the last (you) I will give you this year
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 00:44:01 UTC No. 16531340
I think Elon's autism + his senility will be our undoing
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 00:50:50 UTC No. 16531345
>>16531320
well i sure saw more rocket launches and other exploding UAPs then i have all year
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 01:01:51 UTC No. 16531351
https://youtu.be/Th9Ip1K3EN4
Happy New Year /sfg/! I am still not sbarky
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 01:06:48 UTC No. 16531354
>>16531281
The US&soviets both build their own versions of nuclear thermal rockets in the 70's, and tested it on earth, and they are pretty sure that they would work.
But actually putting one in space and using it is a different thing.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 01:08:38 UTC No. 16531356
>>16531354
It shouldn't be that big of a deal. We have very reliable rockets now and NASA has launched plutonium powered spacecraft into space before
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 01:08:56 UTC No. 16531358
>>16531342
me when I drink coffee
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 01:12:04 UTC No. 16531362
>blowing up thousands of tons of highly reactive chemicals for minutes at a time
>this is fine
>using free energy rocks for power
>this is dangerous
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 01:12:31 UTC No. 16531363
>>16531356
RTG's are a lot safer if they fall back to earth and burn up then nuclear thermal rocket if it burns up.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 01:18:04 UTC No. 16531367
>>16531363
It'll just fall in the ocean and not tangibly affect anything. You would think that China would be interested in it since they don't care if they drop hydrazine filled boosters on people
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 01:18:21 UTC No. 16531368
>>16531351
>Youtube reuploads
Based
Native X embedding when?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 01:24:56 UTC No. 16531377
>>16531367
Where you asleep for the shitstorm when the nips started dumping cooling water from fukushima in to the ocean?
The chinese where the most vocal ones about that, and it was funny to see chinks be confused when they found out this was a standard thing to do in chinese nuclear plants.
The chinese really dont give fuck about anything really, so yeah, why arent they building nuclear rockets?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 01:27:23 UTC No. 16531378
>>16531377
No one else has built a working NTR yet so they're not sure if it's really a good idea
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 01:29:35 UTC No. 16531380
>>16531367
>>16531377
Because the Chinese can never innovate, they can only copy the west or iterate on already established ideas.
It has to do with European genes.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 01:32:47 UTC No. 16531382
>>16531281
Because the best way to use them is never going to happen and all we will be allowed to build is dumb wasteful or otherwise useless versions such as NTP or nuclear electric
>in4 fools try to defend them
They are stupid. Orion/medusa is the best idea
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 01:32:57 UTC No. 16531383
>>16531380
Soviets have dicked around with NTR's in the past, the CCP could just buy or steal those plans.
Just like the chinese spacestation is a copy of a soviet era space station.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 01:46:23 UTC No. 16531390
>>16531242
moron
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 01:48:39 UTC No. 16531393
>>16531390
in the gaming industry we call this a bullshot
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 01:53:27 UTC No. 16531396
>>16531383
Yeah, none of that actually works like that. None of the old soviet NTR work is in anything resembling salable condition, and even if it was the Russians are never willing to sell manufacturing knowledge when they could make you into a customer for their hardware. The Chinese found out about that first-hand when they tried to acquire RD-180 tech back in 2015 after Congress cut ULA off.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 01:57:53 UTC No. 16531398
>>16531281
>Why is there so little interest in nuke engines?
Because they have yet to be used(proven), their proponents tend to have bad advocacy bias and they are too expensive for anything but national prestige missions.
DRACO will be the first demonstration of the real thing.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:00:13 UTC No. 16531400
>>16531383
China's space tech is built on what they could buy/steal from Ukraine.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:03:35 UTC No. 16531402
>>16531351
How is her voice so cute
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:09:07 UTC No. 16531405
>>16531351
My Tesla does an Auld Lang Syne light show
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:11:14 UTC No. 16531406
>>16531398
SpaceX will start making nuke engines when they get their Mars engine factory started.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:17:01 UTC No. 16531409
>>16531405
NASA did that 50 years ago
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:29:14 UTC No. 16531417
>>16531382
NTP is a great idea because you can double the isp of the vac raptor with the same fuel and decades old tech. Having every ship armed with nuclear weapons is the dumbest shit ever
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:31:00 UTC No. 16531420
>>16531398
Is lockheed as lame as boeing or can they actually get this done on time
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:39:27 UTC No. 16531426
>>16531382
Why use a shock absorber? that's wasting energy that could go into isp and thrust
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:42:10 UTC No. 16531428
>>16531420
NTA and just my two cents but its complicated. Lockheed Martin successfully operates Orion, Osiris Rex, InSight (which more or less worked besides the drill issue)
But mind you: Orion was designed in the early 2000s and could be considered 'legacy' at this point. Osiris rex had a great mission but was built in the circa 2010s. Insight was a basic ass lander on purpose.
Much of Lockheed Martin's top talent has since been reaped by Blue Origin, and to a lesser extent SpaceX, retirement, new space companies, or NASA leadership.
LockMart, just like other companies such as Aerojet Rocetdyne, are arguably a very different company today versus what they were just a decade and a half ago. Then again, so was Boeing. LM is promising other big projects like Mars Sample Return hardware and their lunar-mars lander concept but a lot of it is all talk no expertise.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:44:44 UTC No. 16531431
>>16531417
NTP with methane? dont you need more fuel than hydrogen in that case? I guess that solves the tank mass issue, but trading for a less efficient fuel. I also dont think you are factoring the reactor/radiator mass requirements. and the expense+time involved in simply acquiring fissile material, let alone being allowed to rapidly iterate it on exploding engines at a rate that would match raptor iteration. So many added costs
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:45:08 UTC No. 16531432
>>16531426
no it's not
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:46:27 UTC No. 16531436
>>16531420
BWXT is making the engine, Lockheed is making the spacecraft and everything on that end appears to be on schedule for the 2027 launch.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:48:17 UTC No. 16531437
>>16531432
I dont believe you
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:51:18 UTC No. 16531438
>>16531426
Medusa
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:51:35 UTC No. 16531439
>>16531437
read Tsiolkovsky
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:53:24 UTC No. 16531442
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:53:41 UTC No. 16531443
>>16531281
Solid core NTP has bad mass fraction and TWR so it isn't actually better than Starships with depots anywhere you can preposition the tankers or do ISRU - so basically only the military wants them. See >>16531436
NEP with sufficiently good electric thrusters and chemical engines for boosting out of deep gravity wells is better than NTP for most things.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:55:31 UTC No. 16531445
>>16531431
>>16531417
NTP requires liquid hydrogen for the "double the ISP of chemical rockets" performance, this means an NTP craft requires zero boil off tech that we don't have (yet). A detail that gets glossed over which is an example of the aforementioned advocacy bias.
NTP are true multi fuel engines though, they can run on just about any liquid. It is just that any other liquid has greatly reduced performance.
But it does mean an NTP spacecraft could say, fly out to the asteroid belt on hydrogen and then 'refuel' on water mined from asteroids.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:58:56 UTC No. 16531447
>>16531445
>It is just that any other liquid has greatly reduced performance.
It's not just that, it's that you lose the thrust and mdot boost of LOX at the same time you're humping around some big heavy nuclear reactor instead of just a nozzle, pumps, and combustion chamber. "LH2 NTP is twice as good" *as an RL10* because that's the thrust regime current designs are targeting. An RVac and bigger tanks is going to beat solid core LH2 NTP even with ZBO tanks.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:00:01 UTC No. 16531448
>>16529803
>but these states are rapidly becoming a single global civilization.
Man, the aliens probably read that and decided to never come here because they thought we were all a bunch of fags.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:05:56 UTC No. 16531449
>>16531443
NEP has its own advocacy bias issues, you are basically forced to use massive quantities of xenon which insanely expensive.
Just for example with Starlink sats, they switched to argon because it is about $10 worth per sat vs $1.2 million if they used xenon.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:08:29 UTC No. 16531451
>>16531449
So... use argon? It's a smaller performance hit than LCH4/ammonia/water NTP, and you can atmospheric ISRU on Earth or Mars.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:10:48 UTC No. 16531452
>>16531431
You can do NTP with anything you want Hydrogen is just the most efficient. NERVA was 18t but you also have to remember that a nuclear rocket doesn't need thousands of tons of oxidizer to function.
>>16531443
NTP is only for planetary transfers. You don't need a lot of thrust.
>>16531445
Methane NTP is double the performance of the vac rator is my shitty math is to be believed.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:11:01 UTC No. 16531453
>>16531160
Saarlink
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:13:05 UTC No. 16531454
>>16531452
OK but which planetary transfers in particular? Solid core NTP doesn't have the Ve to get to Saturn in reasonable time, and Jupiter is marginal. Methalox is king for Mars. Venus and Mercury are so close to the sun that SEP/solarmoth if not outright photon sails will be king.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:13:54 UTC No. 16531455
>>16531447
The thrust difference doesn't really matter if your ISP is ~double. But as you say the high dry mass of solid core NTP, even if it is much lower than old NERVA engines, is still extremely detrimental to NTP performance.
This isn't so cut and dry though, such as if you use a bimodal reactor that functions as your power source when not thrusting.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:14:56 UTC No. 16531456
>>16531454
Define a reasonable time.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:15:21 UTC No. 16531457
>>16531456
Less than a year each way.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:18:23 UTC No. 16531458
>>16531456
3-5 business days
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:19:18 UTC No. 16531460
>>16531454
>>16531457
Solid core NTP is just the first step. It's not the be all end all of engines. I advocate for it because it has already been built and will greatly speed up transfer times to the moon and mars. Mercury and venus are pretty irrelevant this century. Mars and he moon will have multiple continents of land to take up. Same with the gas giants. We'll just send fuck huge probes instead of car sized ones for now.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:20:18 UTC No. 16531462
>>16531452
>Methane NTP is double the performance of the vac rator is my shitty math is to be believed.
At the same operating temp that gives hydrogen a ~900 ISP will give methane an ISP in the high 500.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:22:46 UTC No. 16531464
>>16531457
You aren't getting to Saturn in less than a year unless you are doing a tiny probe on a rocket with a very heavy throw AND with a big kick stage, that is not a reasonable time scale.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:25:38 UTC No. 16531467
>>16531460
It's like saying a kerolox engine from the sixties shouldn't have been used in the sixties because their ISP was terrible by modern standards and kerolox engines would never get better.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:26:15 UTC No. 16531468
>>16531462
Then Musk should switch to a hydrogen raptor
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:27:47 UTC No. 16531470
>Captain America: B N Wor d
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:38:53 UTC No. 16531478
>>16531462
That represents a significant gain even if you factor in for more engine mass
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:40:02 UTC No. 16531479
>>16531478
It also eliminates a pressure dome and header tank.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:41:57 UTC No. 16531483
>>16531468
Yes we know you don't understand what is going on with either chemical or NTP engines.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:44:33 UTC No. 16531488
>>16531479
>header tank
You wouldn't be using an NTP to land, that would require another set of chemical engines.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:46:38 UTC No. 16531490
They’re already on Mars in the universe where conestoga, armadillo aerospace, and bigelow won
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:47:48 UTC No. 16531491
>>16531490
conestoga is my waifu
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:49:06 UTC No. 16531492
>>16531488
Well why not? All you need is a core and plumbing geometry that heats up a sufficient amount of propellant to produce acceptable thrust for a landing burn.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:51:02 UTC No. 16531494
>>16531492
>Well why not?
Insufficient TWR.
>All you need is a core and plumbing geometry that heats up a sufficient amount of propellant to produce acceptable thrust for a landing burn.
That's a huge fuckoff volume of dead LH2 tankage compared to just chemical thrusters.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:54:09 UTC No. 16531496
>>16531492
Even if you could make one with enough thrust you would irradiate the shit out of the landing site
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:55:29 UTC No. 16531497
>>16531494
>That's a huge fuckoff volume of dead LH2 tankage
What kind of retard uses LH2? Use methane.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:56:35 UTC No. 16531498
>2025
>still no launches
we're a long way from spaceflight being routine
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:57:25 UTC No. 16531499
>>16531498
it's not 2025 yet
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 03:59:54 UTC No. 16531500
brilliant pebbles 2025 get
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 04:01:34 UTC No. 16531501
just read the 2024 starlink report pdf. wow they're really cranking it along
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 04:27:14 UTC No. 16531512
spacex is trying to ramp up production at starbase but...what if they cant get enough employees? it's gotta be hard to attract thousands of people to a remote site in one of the ugliest dirtiest hottest poorest places in the america.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 04:28:52 UTC No. 16531514
>>16531512
Then they can pay more.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 04:30:39 UTC No. 16531515
>>16531512
Indians
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 04:31:03 UTC No. 16531516
>>16531515
haha ITAR go nopppppe :^)
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 04:32:02 UTC No. 16531517
>>16531516
>he thinks all of spacex jobs are ITAR controlled
oh no no no
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 04:32:18 UTC No. 16531518
>>16531516
trump changing the rules tho
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 04:32:34 UTC No. 16531519
>>16531518
He's actually not.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 04:40:04 UTC No. 16531521
>>16531512
There are enough talented and ambitious engineers, technicians, etc. who are willing to go there and stick it out for a couple years just for the ability to have Spacex on their resume.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 05:03:13 UTC No. 16531527
Happy new year, fellow east coast anons. 2025 WILL be a good one
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 05:05:51 UTC No. 16531530
>>16531515
let's go even further beyond
Bangladeshis
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 05:14:30 UTC No. 16531534
>>16531527
East coast of which country?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 05:16:54 UTC No. 16531535
https://x.com/lrocket/status/187424
>Competition hasn’t even caught up to the original tech. SpaceX almost cruel at this point
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 05:19:47 UTC No. 16531537
>>16531512
spacex is consistently rated as the number 1 desired employer by STEM graduates
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 05:23:21 UTC No. 16531540
>>16531534
The only one that matters
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 05:24:47 UTC No. 16531541
>>16531540
India?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 05:30:01 UTC No. 16531543
>>16531540
Romania
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 05:36:45 UTC No. 16531545
happy new years /sfg/! I love you all. Here's to another year of spaceflight.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 05:39:36 UTC No. 16531547
>>16531545
i hate a specific few people in here, the rest are alright.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 05:44:29 UTC No. 16531549
>>16531547
>don't come to /sfg/ tomorrow
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 07:16:35 UTC No. 16531568
Happy new year /sfg/. We are colonizing the solar system bros.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 07:22:58 UTC No. 16531571
>>16531568
Soon.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 07:31:30 UTC No. 16531573
Happy new years /sfg/!
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 08:03:42 UTC No. 16531580
>>16531525
Once someone's castrated, its hard to uncastrate them. All you can do is put them out of misery, for their own good.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 08:16:34 UTC No. 16531585
Been here longer than most faggot tourist posters. Been here since before this general had even been created. I hope you listen to the Sam Hyde video and take it to heart Elon. We know you are here. Stop being a fucking retard and don't throw everything away, you can be king yet.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 08:21:57 UTC No. 16531588
I wish Elon would just be the best rocket fag and stop with all the gay twitter government shit
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 08:23:53 UTC No. 16531591
>>16531588
>>16531585
this ngl
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 08:27:48 UTC No. 16531592
>>16531588
mars needs a government. gotta get your practice in now.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 08:31:02 UTC No. 16531593
>>16531592
mars needs moms
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 08:45:27 UTC No. 16531604
>>16531591
>>16531585
>>16531588
And what the fuck were you saying to me when I said exactly this 2-3 months ago?? You were all fucking dogpiling me for saying it, NOBODY backed me and now because you retarded faggots figured out what I knew from the start all of a sudden its okay to say it. You fucking flipflopping bipolar dumb inbred kikes.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 08:47:48 UTC No. 16531606
>>16531604
You are acting like a woman,just take the L
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 08:49:41 UTC No. 16531609
>>16531604
I was supporting the elon is fucking up theory for like the past 2 years
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 08:51:27 UTC No. 16531610
>>16531600
that name looks sloppily photoshopped
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 08:56:27 UTC No. 16531613
>>16531610
That the best you got punk?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 09:17:51 UTC No. 16531618
>>16531588
Wrong (and gay)
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 09:19:15 UTC No. 16531619
The anti-Elon spam is to try to pressure Trump into reducing support for the starship program
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 09:22:56 UTC No. 16531620
>>16531619
The anti-Elon spam is to try and pressure the Trump Administration to oppose the fucking H-1B program.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 09:23:51 UTC No. 16531622
>>16531619
If you're on team space, it doesnt matter if spacex loses. new glenn and ULA will win
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 09:23:58 UTC No. 16531623
>yeah the ‘stop being stupid elon’ posting on a niche thread of a niche board on the mongolian basket weaving forum will definetly reach blumpfs ear
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 09:26:17 UTC No. 16531625
Team space is a dead concept that doesnt work in a competitive commercial market. That being said, wanting SpaceX to win does not explicitly mean wanting Elon to post stupid shit online.
>>16531622
Hello Tory.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 09:29:10 UTC No. 16531626
>>16531617
we're going to need a smashing success because its 2025 and we're way behind the future that was promised to us
im thinking starship clears 25 flights next year and florida launch site gets fully bulit
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 09:33:55 UTC No. 16531627
>>16531619
Its just the usual reddit posters that have been brainwashed by the cult
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 09:54:53 UTC No. 16531635
>>16529704
stay away from te aqua
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 10:11:42 UTC No. 16531639
>>16531617
i bet he really wants to breed that 18 year old pussy
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 10:18:59 UTC No. 16531641
>>16531639
isnt she 16 or 17
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 10:25:39 UTC No. 16531642
>>16531641
I thought she was 18 because, months ago, i remember reading something about her going to college , i googled it and apparently she just verbally committed to going to University of Miami next year, so she's 17
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 11:26:11 UTC No. 16531648
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 11:31:04 UTC No. 16531650
>>16530090
That's fine. Musk isn't gonna go to space anytime soon. The greatest threat to his vision is his own death and any sort of flight is an unacceptably high risk.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 13:14:29 UTC No. 16531685
>>16531600
Why does he have a bigfoot gait
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 13:14:43 UTC No. 16531686
Starlink v3 is crazy
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 13:17:39 UTC No. 16531688
>>16531686
just the scale of it, wow
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 13:23:54 UTC No. 16531690
>>16531686
That's insane!
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 13:24:31 UTC No. 16531692
>>16531686
Wow
Apologize at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 13:25:39 UTC No. 16531693
>>16531617
based females, it's smart to want to be seeded by the richest man alive.
All it takes is 5 minutes and you:
> will never have to work again
> will have fulfilled your mission to reproduce and multiply
> will probably have taller higher IQ white children
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 13:26:52 UTC No. 16531694
>>16531604
Not those anons but I’m fine admitting Elon is acting gay, I didn’t see it coming, I felt like the rug had been pulled, and I can acknowledge people who said this would happen are right and I didn’t see it coming.
Happy? This is a shitty situation to be in.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 13:34:21 UTC No. 16531696
>>16531686
starlink v3 lifted into orbit by raptor v3...
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 13:41:16 UTC No. 16531700
>>16531619
Mental illness. We really do just hate Indians that much. This shouldn't even be surprising.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 13:44:34 UTC No. 16531704
>>16531702
We can connect so many indians into the economy now!
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 13:49:25 UTC No. 16531706
>>16531704
the congested parts are in the US, this means the border zone where it makes sense to have a starlink vs slow wired connection moves inwards towards cities
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 13:53:32 UTC No. 16531709
>>16531706
suburb bros will scoop it all up as a backup to their wired internet. i've already seen plenty of posts about people doing that when they can. they just get starlink as backup internet.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:04:09 UTC No. 16531715
>>16531713
I thought everyone knew that? It was a big deal back then
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:07:57 UTC No. 16531716
>>16531715
completely missed it
23-> 29 per F9
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:10:32 UTC No. 16531718
v2 weeks
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:11:32 UTC No. 16531719
2 business weeks til flight 7
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:14:06 UTC No. 16531723
>>16531722
thats fucking land
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:15:45 UTC No. 16531724
>>16531722
satellite shroom
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:16:08 UTC No. 16531725
>>16531723
>What even is reading?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:25:42 UTC No. 16531727
>>16531497
>What kind of retard uses LH2? Use methane.
The same kind of retard that thinks Isp is the only important number. (Hint: it's just the rocket equivalent of "miles per gallon")
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:27:03 UTC No. 16531729
>>16531512
It's not fucking Death Valley, retard.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:57:33 UTC No. 16531741
>>16531727
Miles per gallon while ignoring propellant density or lack thereof.
Hydrogen is a horrible fuel, whether it's in rockets or as an energy source planetside.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 14:58:40 UTC No. 16531742
what about methane NTR + a bunch of raptors?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:04:25 UTC No. 16531744
>>16531742
do you even understand what you’re asking? Raptor is designed for methalox combustion
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:05:38 UTC No. 16531745
>>16531741
It's sad how Toyota has gone full retard hydrotard. It's probably worse as an Urf fuel than as rocket fuel. One of the things I hear about is the dispenser pumps literally freezing up because of the cryo temps. It's bad enough how long it takes electric to full charge, but at least the charge stations don't just suddenly stop working.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:07:11 UTC No. 16531746
>>16531686
That's insane!
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:10:55 UTC No. 16531747
>>16531745
>has gone
Toyota started their hydro shit long before EVs were a thing. They're gradually moving away from it, but still want some return on investment.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:28:08 UTC No. 16531751
reminder we're aiming for 2 starship launches per month this year
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:28:38 UTC No. 16531752
>>16531744
Raptors with methane + oxygen
Nuclear thermal rocket thrusters with the working fluid being the same methane instead of hydrogen, which should still be better ISP
then use raptors when you need to do high thrust manuevers and the NTR when high ISP is more beneficial
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:29:37 UTC No. 16531754
>>16531751
This probably means business as usual for now but one a week by the end of the year
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:30:38 UTC No. 16531755
>>16531752
Kill yourself
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:34:46 UTC No. 16531757
>>16531362
And what are the potential failure modes? Name calling is merited here.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:35:40 UTC No. 16531758
>>16531757
pussy
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:42:23 UTC No. 16531761
>>16531759
you didn't miss anything
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:45:28 UTC No. 16531766
>>16531588
This is like arguing that you should mind your own business instead of dealing with the multiple murderer living next door who is threatening to kill you.
You'd be more efficient right up to the moment your head is cut off and put in someone's refrigerator.
Apologies to any multiple murderers who have been unfairly compared to the United States federal government and those who control it.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:47:45 UTC No. 16531767
>>16531622
The entire rest of the world is worthless compared to SpaceX with respect to spaceflight. We would be centuries away from Mars colonization without Elon.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:48:39 UTC No. 16531768
>>16529726
I do not want them, Sam-I-Am.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 15:51:16 UTC No. 16531769
>>16531758
lol, fair play
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 16:14:29 UTC No. 16531778
>>16531702
>>16531704
After having experienced the internet's change from 1999 through today, I no longer want the entire world brought online. Can't India have their own internet or something? China does.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 16:18:00 UTC No. 16531779
>>16531752
You don’t get it, raptor is designed with a specific combustion chamber to operate under specific conditions with specific fuels. You don’t just combust methane with nuclear rods further upstream and blow it out the raptor engine nozzle, designed for something completely different. This isn’t interchangeable legos this is real life
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 16:24:40 UTC No. 16531786
>>16531779
thats not what I'm talking about, only a shared propellant tank
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 16:45:15 UTC No. 16531793
>>16531713
>mass optimized 29 per F9
Nice
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 16:46:56 UTC No. 16531795
>>16531759
Noting to miss. Its just retards seething. We have H1B for a reason. Its peace time operation paper clip on mass scale.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 16:50:14 UTC No. 16531796
YWNGTS
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 16:52:59 UTC No. 16531798
>>16531795
Lmao go away elon you’re a faggot. You’re going back!
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 16:57:49 UTC No. 16531802
>>16531795
operation paperclip was good because it wasn't at a mass scale. we grabbed the germans with cutting edge rocket knowledge. not every german who was vaguely qualified to work in aerospace to undercut american engineers wages.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 17:21:51 UTC No. 16531810
>>16531802
Retard. American workforce is ~170 million. H1B is only ~80 thousands. Not even a percent of a percent. This isn't even "grabbing everyone". The world has ~8 billion people (rounding number being American population). 80 thousand out of 8 billion is absolutely nothing.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 17:34:19 UTC No. 16531816
>>16531810
NTA but gfy I don’t care if it’s 10 jobs against four hundred million americans. You don’t get to cheat your way into a workforce that will undercut Americans by working longer hours for less pay by threat of deportation. It’s a slippery slope and if you're willing to yield american jobs to benefit your company you’re not american you are a backstabbing traitor who gets the airlock
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 17:36:14 UTC No. 16531818
>>16531810
This,if anything we need more indians to get to mars faster
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 17:36:59 UTC No. 16531819
>>16531818
Fuck off elon you’re going back
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 17:37:20 UTC No. 16531820
>>16531818
I think cows can produce the required methane more efficiently and with less hassle.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 17:38:42 UTC No. 16531821
>>16531816
>working harder is cheating
You're free to work at Blue Origin or ULA or Boeing
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 17:41:51 UTC No. 16531823
>>16531242
It's a Raptor 4.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 17:42:03 UTC No. 16531824
>>16531821
No, gaming the system is cheating. Sorry I have to state the obvious.
Do you work for Dynetics; do you need me to provide a K-12 link to explain it in simple terms?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 17:42:57 UTC No. 16531825
>>16531816
this
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 17:43:03 UTC No. 16531826
>>16531824
People that dont work can apply for Blue Origin/ULA/Boeing. They give you all the work life balance and good pay too. If you dont want to work long hours, thats perfect for you.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 17:45:34 UTC No. 16531828
>>16531826
Sorry, your poor reading comprehension has failed you out of the SpaceX pipeline. Try McDonalds.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 17:47:04 UTC No. 16531830
>>16531816
This aint it chief
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 17:47:06 UTC No. 16531831
>>16531828
If you want work and life balance and not work hard at life, McDonalds is good for you as well.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 17:55:24 UTC No. 16531837
Kekiua maximus?? XD pff Ahahaha
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 17:56:58 UTC No. 16531840
Elon is too autistic or out of touch to realize that H1Bs aren't just about taking in top tier specialists. Does he realize it is exploited to bring in cheap unskilled labour from India to work for Amazon too or does he just not care?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 17:57:17 UTC No. 16531842
https://electrek.co/2024/12/30/tesl
>pay intelligent innovative americans to build your hyper successful company
>after they have done all the hard work, kick them out and replace them with a cheap foreign slave force
the same will happen with spacex once starship is fully operational
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 17:58:09 UTC No. 16531843
>>16531840
he has acknowledged that issue
but the nativists just want to stop all immigration altogether
that would include people like Musk, so is it really that strange that Musk doesn't like the idea?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 18:00:17 UTC No. 16531845
>>16531843
Native Americans want to stop immigrant all together. White men came anyway.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 18:08:18 UTC No. 16531853
>>16531845
Native Americans voted supermajority Trump last year.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 18:08:28 UTC No. 16531854
>>16531845
They should have opened fire on the first ship that came to their shores, setting it ablaze with burning arrows.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 18:11:47 UTC No. 16531856
>>16531843
>nativists
Is this some bullshit word invented by hippies?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 18:13:32 UTC No. 16531859
>>16531843
I don't think the vast majority of "nativists" would care if the immigrants were exclusively highly educated specialists that can fill roles that are genuinely unable to be filled by Americans.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 18:16:14 UTC No. 16531861
>>16531859
that requirement would have barred Musk I'm pretty sure
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 18:16:15 UTC No. 16531862
>>16531859
They dont. Its just nonsense brought up by some extreme racists who want to put some blame on a tiny fraction of skilled legal immigrants. The real problem aren't tiny portion, its the unchecked 20 million illegal immigrants that are radically altering the cities, towns, states via electoral voting numbers census takes (census dont care about citizenship for population and uses it to give electoral votes to states).
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 18:20:18 UTC No. 16531863
>>16531862
Congratulations, now you will get legal immigrants altering cities and towns, the British and Canadian way.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 18:20:29 UTC No. 16531864
>>16531862
>skilled
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 18:26:40 UTC No. 16531867
>>16531840
The ends justify the means. Elon could kill every American tomorrow and replace them with Africans and I would forgive him if it meant we get to Mars one day sooner
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 18:33:48 UTC No. 16531871
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/boein
>boeing hires shit tons of "highly skilled" jeets
>everything the company touches goes to shit
>>16531867
have fun in that future where you've killed everybody that made that mars mission possible
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 18:34:21 UTC No. 16531872
>>16531867
>we get to Mars one day sooner
>we
What "we"?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 18:36:50 UTC No. 16531878
>>16531871
Nonsense. Boeing has 170K employees. Indian employees stay in the US and become US citizens. Chinese engineers go back to China. India is a shithole so they dont wanna go back. China is developing rapidly and is 2nd only to the US in terms of world power. And their homeland as well, so its very attractive.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 18:38:19 UTC No. 16531881
>>16531390
clearly not plumbed in
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 18:39:42 UTC No. 16531882
>>16531871
I dont think you have reading comprehension. the white people were lazy and werent much use getting to mars in my scenario
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 18:39:59 UTC No. 16531883
>>16531878
if indians are so smart why is india still so shit? oh and yes china is a shithole, please explain why so many chinese people flee to enter the us illegally?
https://www.npr.org/2024/08/07/nx-s
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 18:40:29 UTC No. 16531884
>>16531872
he's an african hoping against hope elon will kill whitey for him
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 18:45:38 UTC No. 16531885
>>16531883
They're stuck in the trap. Smart indians leave India and dont come back to fix India. Its a lost cause. Smart chinese leave India and then come go to China because chances of better opportunity.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 19:06:05 UTC No. 16531890
>sfg then: "elon could do whatever the fuck he wants as long as he gets us to mars, i don't care about anything else"
>sfg now: "AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH"
fucking hypocrites
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 19:07:46 UTC No. 16531891
>>16531883
most indians aren't smart, its just that the population is so big that there are a bunch of smart indians
the smart indians can't make the retarded indians non-retarded
thats like saying why doesn't Musk go back to South Africa and not make it a shithole
how would he do that? use some kind of genetic engineering on the 90% of the population that happens to be black?
Eugenics (in any shape) is still pretty far outside the overton window I'm pretty sure, at least with the current methods
maybe if there was some injection you could take with gene editing or a more advanced neuralink device that gave you 30 more IQ points this would work, but those don't exist
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 19:17:07 UTC No. 16531894
>>16531891
>kind of genetic engineering on the 90% of the population that happens to be black?
Gas would be quicker
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 19:19:52 UTC No. 16531895
>>16531890
Too many reddit brains that get easily mind broken by propaganda.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 19:20:26 UTC No. 16531896
>>16531890
The key word is "us"
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 19:21:21 UTC No. 16531897
>>16531604
I didn't do anything to you you skitzo fag. Elon's retardation has reached a critical mass where he loves jeets and thinks stealth doesn't work because you can take a picture. It was tolerable before
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 19:23:16 UTC No. 16531899
>>16531890
>>16531895
Too many EDS tourists.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 19:24:21 UTC No. 16531900
>>16531899
Same shit. Too many reddit tourists
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 19:26:29 UTC No. 16531903
>>16531766
that is way over dramatic. Elon confidently talks about shit he knows nothing about. If there's a "murderer" it's going to be the one that gets imported through H1B
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 19:33:10 UTC No. 16531905
>>16531903
80K fully vetted comes in from H1B.
20 million unvetted came in from border.
Statistically, its h1b has 1/250th chance. Thats just purely numbers alone. Vetted vs unvetted, there's another 2-100X chance. So 250 x 100 = 1/25,000 chance.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 19:46:07 UTC No. 16531911
reminder that elons current concubine and mother to three of his children is half indian and the vice presidents wife is indian
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 19:49:12 UTC No. 16531912
>>16531911
Is that a spaceflight?
>>16531905
Is this a spaceflight?
>>16531903
Where is the spaceflight?
>>16531891
Maybe the spaceflight is hiding somewhere?
>>16531890
This definitely isn't the spaceflight.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 19:50:07 UTC No. 16531914
Spacex should be made up of majority Indians
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 19:50:22 UTC No. 16531916
>>16531912
reddit seethers are seething that SpaceX is going too fast and should be stopped.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 19:59:24 UTC No. 16531919
>>16531916
Why do you worship Elon?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 20:02:20 UTC No. 16531920
>>16531919
Why do worship the castration?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 20:02:30 UTC No. 16531921
>>16531919
why don't you worship him?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 20:05:17 UTC No. 16531923
>>16531919
Go back to your commie shithole
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 20:38:45 UTC No. 16531936
>>16531921
because i'm american and i care about fellow americans not immigrants. now again: why do you worship him?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 20:39:07 UTC No. 16531938
I worship the sun
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 20:43:08 UTC No. 16531941
>>16531936
he is the greatest man alive and the reason the world is going into a positive direction instead of a shit direction
he is probably going to be the reason humanity becomes multiplanetary
he might have very well stopped the west from decaying into some communist dystopic shithole
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 20:51:55 UTC No. 16531951
>>16531938
Fuck that thing
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 20:52:48 UTC No. 16531954
>>16531951
ok mr burns
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 20:54:09 UTC No. 16531957
>>16531941
>there are ""people"" who actually believe this
LOL
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 20:56:03 UTC No. 16531958
>>16531951
Yeah, fuck the sun, I fuckin' hate it too, long live the fuckin' beast.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 20:57:05 UTC No. 16531959
>>16531957
it reads like a bot
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 20:58:23 UTC No. 16531960
>>16531890
We're being raided by discord trannies and redditors
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:01:46 UTC No. 16531964
>>16531920
>>16531921
>>16531923
Cast aside dogma. Elon is fallible. The only good thing he's done is spacex
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:03:19 UTC No. 16531966
>>16531964
he might be fallible, but that isn't contradictory to what I said
the important aspect is fast iteration and error correction
he has also done plenty of other good things besides spacex
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:04:44 UTC No. 16531967
>>16531964
he is absolutelly infallible
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:05:54 UTC No. 16531968
>>16531966
>but that isn't contradictory to what I said
the important aspect is fast iteration and error correction
we don't need to fast iterate on shutting down the f35 program.
>he has also done plenty of other good things besides spacex
no
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:08:36 UTC No. 16531971
At this rate, Ariane 6 and Blue Glenn will be orbital before Starship
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:10:15 UTC No. 16531973
Blue Glenn
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:11:02 UTC No. 16531974
>>16531941
>he might have very well stopped the west from decaying into some communist dystopic shithole
Yeah he wants to turn it into new Mumbai instead
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:11:48 UTC No. 16531975
at this rate neutron will be orbital before falcon 1
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:19:11 UTC No. 16531981
>>16531938
I hope in the future we have autists arguing that proxima is cooler than the sun, because they live there
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:20:21 UTC No. 16531984
>dude we interviewed a project kuiper guy and it is literally the worst space software organization on the planet. Absolute dumpster fire.
Makes sense why Jeff can't get it up
https://x.com/MichaelAlleged/status
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:21:53 UTC No. 16531986
>>16531839
Good luck
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:21:59 UTC No. 16531987
>>16531984
well Musk did fire the initial Starlink team (at least the leadership) that then went Amazon to run Kuiper
seems like it was warranted
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:22:44 UTC No. 16531990
mars is fake
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:22:59 UTC No. 16531991
as someone working with doing 3rd party testing of Kuiper, I can confirm it is a slow, slogging dumpster fire
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:24:04 UTC No. 16531994
>>16531984
>After launching two test satellites in February 2018, the first batch of 60 operational Starlink satellites were launched in May 2019.
>Two initial prototype satellites, “KuiperSat-1” and “KuiperSat-2” launched on October 6, 2023 on an Atlas V rocket operated by United Launch Alliance from Cape Canaveral Space Force Station.
What is Nug Len going to launch once it becomes operational? Only glowsats and an occasional NASA probe?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:25:18 UTC No. 16531997
>>16531991
Gradatim!
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:28:34 UTC No. 16532004
>>16531987
Thats what happens when you hire the "experienced" people but have no ability to manage them
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:30:09 UTC No. 16532008
>>16531973
Yellow Young
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:31:04 UTC No. 16532011
>>16532004
They clearly need more of that 0.1% top engineering talent.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:32:03 UTC No. 16532012
>>16531795
>We have H1B for a reason
Because ZOG wants mass immigration full stop to dismantle any white ethnic majority/community in the country
And the business side of ZOG like having thirdie servants who can't quit their jobs
win win for everyone except white people who are irrelevant
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:36:34 UTC No. 16532016
>>16532003
That looks like a huge box of fireworks went off all at once under the tonneau cover
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:37:34 UTC No. 16532017
>>16531984
Grim.
I keep hoping that Jeff Who can turn that ship around but it keeps looking less likely.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:37:37 UTC No. 16532018
>>16532011
Looking back, was it a mistake to set up a satellite internet company under Amazon? It's a publicly traded company, so Baldy doesn't have a full control over it and if people are saying that it is a shitshow then it's not going to be fixed quickly.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:39:39 UTC No. 16532019
>>16532009
im sure this is entirely random and not at all staged
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:14:53 UTC No. 16532034
>>16532009
wow, what a picture lmao
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:15:20 UTC No. 16532035
so wait Kuiper started in 2019 and they aren't even launching satellites yet?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:20:46 UTC No. 16532039
>>16532035
gradatim
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:21:04 UTC No. 16532041
>cybertrucks randomly exploding
Oh no no no...
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:25:16 UTC No. 16532048
>>16532003
Anyone can tell if this was an actual bomb or just the battery exploding?
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:29:02 UTC No. 16532051
>>16532048
its fireworks
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:29:31 UTC No. 16532053
>>16532048
Police is saying that it was filled with fireworks. No idea why they ignited.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:29:40 UTC No. 16532054
>>16532048
it was an ied made with loads of fireworks
whats actually troubling is it's a suicide attack
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:29:42 UTC No. 16532055
>>16532003
elon better improve his security, hire more bodyguards, etc etc, before luigi 2.0 shows up
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:29:48 UTC No. 16532056
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:31:28 UTC No. 16532059
>>16532056
>Tesla can remotely detonate your car
Grim...
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:33:31 UTC No. 16532062
>>16531987
I have a friend that works there and he's always fighting fires late into the night. I do not envy him one bit.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:33:54 UTC No. 16532063
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:37:42 UTC No. 16532066
inb4 elon gets assassinated this year...
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:41:52 UTC No. 16532069
>>16532065
lmfao
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:45:48 UTC No. 16532072
>>16532048
batteries don't explode
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:46:08 UTC No. 16532073
>>16532056
Both the cybertruck and the f150 were rented from Turo
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:47:40 UTC No. 16532075
>>16532072
Lithium combustion is explosive
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:49:31 UTC No. 16532076
>>16532075
Not like that, it ain't.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:49:53 UTC No. 16532077
>>16532066
Got you
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:51:55 UTC No. 16532078
>>16532075
No it isn't. I have never seen an ev fire where where it literally explodes as in a burst of energy. I've never seen someone deliberately cause a battery fire and have that result in an explosion
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:57:39 UTC No. 16532081
>>16532056
>bed
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:57:40 UTC No. 16532082
>>16532079
>land of the free
>have to build car bombs with fireworks
EH OH EL!
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 22:58:58 UTC No. 16532083
>>16532079
H1B migrants doing the work americans don't want to
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:01:52 UTC No. 16532085
>>16532056
>vehicle telemetry
yeah ok it's not a rocket it's a pickup
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:07:02 UTC No. 16532089
>>16532066
luigi time
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:13:22 UTC No. 16532093
Should I buy a gun and become a bodyguard for a rich CEO, is that the new booming industry
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:14:06 UTC No. 16532094
>>16532093
nah the booming industry is truck rental
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:14:16 UTC No. 16532095
>>16532086
I envy you so much
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:15:06 UTC No. 16532096
>>16532094
Dnno if your insurance covers renting trucks to bombers
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:16:17 UTC No. 16532097
>>16531896
Underrated point.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:20:46 UTC No. 16532100
Guys I'm genuinely scared. Elon is an anti-white kosher piece of shit, but I really don't want him to die, because SpaceX would be finished and we'd enter another dead period until the next visionary shows up (not likely for another 75-100 years).
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:21:21 UTC No. 16532102
>>16532100
China would conquer space, no need to wait
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:31:14 UTC No. 16532106
>>16532100
SX would still function without the epic narwhal bacon man. Jared would probably come fill the shoes at the request of mommy Shotwell
Apologize at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:33:34 UTC No. 16532108
>>16532100
Elongated Muskrat probably goes to the restroom with 3 personal security guards watch him take a dump
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:42:07 UTC No. 16532109
>>16532100
Vote harder next time.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:44:08 UTC No. 16532110
>>16532106
I wouldn't trust post-Elon SpaceX to get to Mars yet. Once they're regularly putting men on Mars then yeah, they can take it the rest of the way to a city without him.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:44:12 UTC No. 16532111
>>16532106
it would function but would it actually do what Musk is trying to achieve? I don't think they would colonize mars
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:45:36 UTC No. 16532113
>>16532110
I'm not so sure about that either, a self-sustaining city is pretty far from simply boots on mars or even a semi-permanently manned research base
it would still be extremely expensive with no clear and immediate payback, maybe ever
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:45:47 UTC No. 16532114
>>16532075
Li-ion batteries don't spontaneously explode in a fireball. They do burn like a motherfucker, but not to that degree.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:47:32 UTC No. 16532117
>>16532113
>I'm not so sure about that either, a self-sustaining city is pretty far from simply boots on mars or even a semi-permanently manned research base
The difference is that it doesn't require anything fundamentally new in launch or rocketry. It's scaling all the other bullshit like habs, suits, food, power production, industry, etc., which SpaceX isn't singularly responsible for inventing from scratch. That means a lot of working with other companies besides Tesla.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:51:07 UTC No. 16532120
>>16532117
yes, so you could argue that would be even more difficult, what would be the driving force?
accumulating wealth with Tesla and others will enable Musk to fund the Mars city and get it towards self-sustainability, at some point it will start to roll somewhat by itself, but that point is probably pretty far from just the research base stage that can be run with just Starship ferried cargo, basically no local manufacturing needed besides maybe propellant (and water, oxygen)
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:56:16 UTC No. 16532124
>>16532123
They have. Rocket Lab and Astra both used battery electric pumps for their tiny first stage engines, and Rocket Lab also uses them for their second stage. Batteries suck so the Rocket Lab upper stage actually has to drop a dead battery out the back mid flight to switch to a second one.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:02:31 UTC No. 16532128
>>16532124
No, I mean power the entire rocket off a battery so you can recharge it instead of having to bring more fuel up.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:04:10 UTC No. 16532129
>>16532128
>What even is reaction mass?
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:04:28 UTC No. 16532130
>>16532128
You tell us how to turn electricity into thrust RIGHT NOW
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:04:53 UTC No. 16532131
>>16532128
there are no outlets to plug into in space dumb frogposter
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:08:47 UTC No. 16532132
>>16532130
>>16532128
electromagnets
that's how motors work
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:09:30 UTC No. 16532133
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:10:23 UTC No. 16532135
>>16532130
Literally just like this >>16532076
except make it so you can recharge the battery afterwards.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:11:25 UTC No. 16532139
>>16532135
Don't they teach you kids about fire triangles anymore or is that something you'll have to wait for in university?
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:12:21 UTC No. 16532140
>>16532131
Oh nvm you're right I didn't think about that.
Apologize at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:12:32 UTC No. 16532141
>>16532130
>>16532129
> they don't know about Electric Propulsion
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:12:55 UTC No. 16532143
>>16532139
I think the cool kids these days all ask chatgpt how to fire.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:13:04 UTC No. 16532144
>>16532141
Feel free to demonstrate it any time.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:13:45 UTC No. 16532145
>>16532139
this is why Elon needs to bring in jeets, the US school system has been destroyed
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:14:04 UTC No. 16532146
>>16532143
And people wonder why Elon wants H1B engineers.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:14:10 UTC No. 16532148
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:14:19 UTC No. 16532149
>>16532143
My school didn't cover fire at all, I had to learn that on the streets.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:15:03 UTC No. 16532150
>>16531890
There's not a single white person that is for ethnic replacement not even if it gets us to mars
If you're against this you're either brown or (((white)))
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:16:46 UTC No. 16532152
>>16532133
Interesting how much does electricity weigh?
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:18:10 UTC No. 16532154
>>16532121
government orgs in the west are way behind modern tech
It's a station from the 90's where the whole budget is spent maintaining
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:27:10 UTC No. 16532159
This is retarded. Imagine being a baby born in Ultor. You'll never have a real life. Never have a healthy childhood and growth. You'll never be able to step outside and breathe fresh, natural air. You'll never feel the warmth of the sun on your skin. You'll never climb trees and explore the world. You'll never have an organic friendship group. And if you do end up getting on an escape rocket to Earth, you'll be a 7' freak who can't stand upright in Earth gravity with no social skills whatsoever. There is never going to be a city on Mars. A rotationally-occupied research base with regular expansions, yes. But no one is going to fucking live on Mars except some autists.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:58:01 UTC No. 16532170
>>16529686
change those v1 flaps
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 01:02:01 UTC No. 16532172
>>16531987
>musk fired starlink leadership
>they continue to be shit at kuiper
Let's see who that is!
>Rajeev Badyal
Curious! Can anyone explain to me why Elon is so blind to this issue
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 01:02:46 UTC No. 16532173
>>16532130
something something QI
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 01:02:57 UTC No. 16532174
>>16532121
It uses fans to move around, doesn't it? That idea would make sense in a pressurized microgravity environment.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 01:03:59 UTC No. 16532177
>>16532172
Because he's a king of SpaceX and can fire underperforming H1B slaves at any time.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 01:07:34 UTC No. 16532178
>>16532172
the self driving team lead at Tesla is of indian descent I'm pretty sure and its going swimmingly there
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 01:09:04 UTC No. 16532180
>>16532178
? self-driving a decade ago though right ????
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 01:09:15 UTC No. 16532181
>>16531919
He is the only one who can give us our destiny in space.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 01:09:33 UTC No. 16532182
>>16532172
Because it turns out Comp Sci is not the kind of "engineer" any western country needs?
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 01:11:03 UTC No. 16532183
When is Nuggling launching?
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 01:11:40 UTC No. 16532185
>>16532183
5 more days
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 01:11:45 UTC No. 16532186
>>16532180
yep, we've had it.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 01:12:42 UTC No. 16532187
>>16532180
its close
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 01:17:30 UTC No. 16532189
>>16532139
I don't think it was ever mentioned in school, but we did learn it in boy scouts.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 01:26:54 UTC No. 16532192
>>16532131
>>16532140
Just add solar panels.
Spaceflight: solved
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 01:32:59 UTC No. 16532194
>>16532193
hey fuck you I already posted that image
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 01:36:13 UTC No. 16532197
>>16532194
If you open it in Gimp and add a little noise before saving it you can post it as many times as you like
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 01:37:00 UTC No. 16532198
>>16532194
Sorry I'm posting from Ceres
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 01:52:49 UTC No. 16532201
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_
so much garbage that doesnt matter in a starship world
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 01:56:02 UTC No. 16532204
>>16531486
nuh uh
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 01:57:26 UTC No. 16532206
>>16532204
4chan itself is slowly dying, I worry
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 02:24:59 UTC No. 16532212
Elon has lost the fucking plot. Oh well, the hopium was too great to be realistic anyway, time for civil war.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 02:26:42 UTC No. 16532213
It's not even bait at this point. Move on.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 02:27:52 UTC No. 16532214
>>16532190
>put explosives into a military tank
>detonate the explosives
>spaceflight?
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 02:31:12 UTC No. 16532217
>>16532190
>can't get real explosives
>truck is stronger than your "bomb"
>you are the only fatality
>don't even break the lobby windows
bros, the competence crisis is even hitting the mujahideen
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 02:33:02 UTC No. 16532219
>>16532213
Fifty thousand Indians have been deposited into your neighbourhood
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 02:45:15 UTC No. 16532224
>>16532217
probably used chatgpt to plan everything
zoom zoom
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 02:48:54 UTC No. 16532226
>>16532212
I'm just glad he isn't running SpaceX/Starship. If he gets DDDed, nothing is lost.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 03:06:23 UTC No. 16532232
>>16532213
>come on saa- I mean anon, being mad about Indians was sooo yesterday
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 03:07:19 UTC No. 16532234
The unstoppable Elon vs the immovable /pol/tards.
Who will win?
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 03:08:26 UTC No. 16532235
>>16532232
People are posting like he's said anything on the subject in the last three days, and he hasn't. It is, in fact, rage baiting.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 03:20:27 UTC No. 16532238
>>16532234
Never bet against Elon
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 03:21:55 UTC No. 16532239
>>16532238
as an atheist,
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 03:26:34 UTC No. 16532242
>>16532238
that was my post :)
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 03:27:41 UTC No. 16532243
>>16532242
it's a good post you should be proud of it.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 04:09:54 UTC No. 16532261
>>16532248
>rectangular heat shield tiles
why
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 04:11:54 UTC No. 16532263
>>16532261
If they were all square it would double the amount of installation required (by hand, mind you)
They probably ran some numbers, did some modeling, and figured they could get away with bigger, rectangular, tiles and still be within their margin of safety. Just a guess
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 04:14:24 UTC No. 16532265
>>16532261
what shape would you make them?
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 04:15:42 UTC No. 16532267
>>16532265
sixsideagon
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 04:17:40 UTC No. 16532270
>>16532267
Dreamchaser's surface has no regular curvature to cater to.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 04:17:43 UTC No. 16532271
>>16532265
decagons
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 04:18:07 UTC No. 16532272
>>16532267
they have six sides if you count the top and bottom
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 04:27:44 UTC No. 16532276
>>16532265
The same shape as the hull in 3D, so it just fits right on.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 04:34:37 UTC No. 16532278
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 04:37:33 UTC No. 16532279
>>16532248
most kino spacecraft
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 04:45:35 UTC No. 16532283
>>16532265
the reason for hexagons is their interlocking nature while still having a constant shape for ease of manufacture
Dreamchaser is not designed with ease of manufacture in mind, it has the oldspace artisanal mindset
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 04:48:45 UTC No. 16532284
>>16531964
Irrelevant. If there are wrong ideas, bring them. Blanket seething about Musk/SpaceX is tranny brain at the work
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 04:50:55 UTC No. 16532285
wait till elon finds out that most people going to mars dont want to work, they just want to enjoy life on a new world, hoping that everyone else will do all the labor
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 04:51:08 UTC No. 16532286
>>16532172
>Elon is so blind
Why? Musk only wants top 0.1% no matter how. If you're not that, then you get fired.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 04:54:30 UTC No. 16532287
>>16532286
You need to put more effort into this.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 04:54:31 UTC No. 16532288
>>16532285
Its okay, just let them buy their in with work they did on Earth by charging enough to trade the value to others who want to work and get paid from the transactions of the rich who pays more.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 04:57:18 UTC No. 16532289
>>16532279
for now
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 05:19:52 UTC No. 16532291
>>16532289
Space shuttle was so fucking cool
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 05:28:06 UTC No. 16532295
>2 days into 2025
>0 launches
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 05:41:13 UTC No. 16532298
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 06:10:54 UTC No. 16532309
>>16532299
When did she say this? Based if true.
I want to think this is because she's privy to spooky information but it's probably not that.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 06:11:30 UTC No. 16532310
>>16531867
>if it meant we get to Mars one day sooner
And then what? Are those Africans going to colonize mars and survive on it without white people?
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 06:20:15 UTC No. 16532314
>>16532309
maybe this?
https://x.com/thesheetztweetz/statu
i vaguely remember her saying something about colonizing other solar systems, not FTL.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 06:23:45 UTC No. 16532315
>>16532314
>>16532299
>>16532309
The implication was that it'd have to be an FTL engine by time scales alone. It'd be a very pleasant surprise if physics obliged.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 06:28:09 UTC No. 16532317
>>16532315
is that head canon? where is the implication that it has to be FTL?
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 06:31:54 UTC No. 16532318
>>16532314
Nuclear Pulse Propulsion already exists
And is ample to go as far as you want
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 06:34:16 UTC No. 16532319
>>16532317
Without breakthrough propulsion tech, you're not going interstellar without multi-generational voyages due to the energy involved. Sending a single probe to Alpha Centauri within a human lifetime uses up nation's GDPs worth of energy, which is not a level of resources that will be at SpaceX's disposal within 20 years.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 06:34:25 UTC No. 16532320
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timel
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 06:34:32 UTC No. 16532321
>>16532318
nobody is going to waste precious nukes on space propulsion
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 06:40:09 UTC No. 16532323
>>16532321
plutonium can be made in your backyard
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 06:42:19 UTC No. 16532324
>>16532319
ok what does this have to do with FTL
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 06:44:15 UTC No. 16532326
>>16532324
In a nutshell, and with prospective levels of global GDP and energy production, you need new physics for it to be affordable, and you need faster than light for the effort to be practical.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 06:46:41 UTC No. 16532327
>>16532326
>and you need faster than light for the effort to be practical.
no
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 06:48:28 UTC No. 16532328
>>16532327
Elaborate.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 06:48:42 UTC No. 16532329
>>16532326
Freezing people would work
Or simply living your life on the ship
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 06:50:36 UTC No. 16532330
>>16532329
Attempting such a thing would be like trying to manufacture a kilogram of antimatter with penning traps. It's technically possible, but it's so grossly impractical that it will never be attempted.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 06:52:02 UTC No. 16532331
>>16532328
imagine if you will, a piece of paper but folded in half with a pencil poking through both halves
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 06:55:14 UTC No. 16532333
at least there have been lots of promising areas of FTL research lately
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 06:56:24 UTC No. 16532334
>>16532328
if you go at half c it takes just 8 years, that's practical and not multi-generational
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 07:06:14 UTC No. 16532338
>>16532334
>if you go at half c it takes just 8 years, that's practical and not multi-generational
Considering how much shit has to keep working, it makes expeditions (think Apollo) possible, but it's not going to make colonization efforts viable.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 07:15:21 UTC No. 16532344
>>16532333
cite 5
>>16532334
.5 c is ridiculous speeds
thats fking 150,000 km/s
how do you decelerate at your destination
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 07:16:43 UTC No. 16532345
Hey guys, I'm back on /sfg/ after 10 years away. How is that Callisto colony coming along?
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 07:18:01 UTC No. 16532346
>>16532345
>Callisto colony
Your FTL drive sent you back in time, idiot.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 07:19:07 UTC No. 16532347
>>16532344
idk but it's not ftl so we dont need ftl to get there, that's all i'msaying
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 07:50:41 UTC No. 16532348
>>16532347
congratulations, you have reached our solar next door neighbour. Unfortunately, none of the planets there are habitable for whatever reason (too hot/cold/gaseous/irradiated). Repeat this for every star in our area and if you're lucky you'll find somewhere within about 20 light years (about 100 stars) with one habitable planet. More likely you'd need to search 40-50 light years out, and deceleration is required so a 0.5c top speed is going to have a much lower average speed across the whole trip - not even beginning with the logistics of needing to send a scout ship to all these candidates first and waiting most of a human lifetime for a go/no-go response once they arrive (even if they just do a flyby)
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 07:51:50 UTC No. 16532349
>>16532338
On the contrary, only a colony would be worthwhile
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 07:57:06 UTC No. 16532350
>>16532349
Worthwhile is not the same as viable.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 08:33:39 UTC No. 16532357
>>16532048
>>16532081
If it was a battery fire, it would have still been burning and destroyed the rest of the car.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 08:52:37 UTC No. 16532363
Elon is just like us
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 08:53:57 UTC No. 16532364
billionaire dickriding general
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 08:55:36 UTC No. 16532366
>>16532364
sfg - Simping for Felon General
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 08:56:52 UTC No. 16532367
>>16532366
it's not misleading investors if his stock price goes up, bro
it's not bad if the game is rigged for crooks, bro
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 09:01:29 UTC No. 16532370
Elon and all his antics are existentially necessary whether you like it or not
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 09:01:46 UTC No. 16532371
>>16532364
you, i, and everyone else knows that we support whoever gets us into space. the industry isnt robust enough to be picky.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 09:02:44 UTC No. 16532372
>>16532326
New physics plus time dilation would be enough if the new physics has enough oomph. The 0.99999999999c (or whatever) drive is what some sci-fi writers have been doing to try to be smart. Is FTL easier to achieve than that shit? There's no reason to think so.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 09:03:47 UTC No. 16532374
Sorta worried with the left wing comitting multiple terrorism and assassination attempts on Trump, he's gonna be in the cross hair of the commies.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 09:27:22 UTC No. 16532381
>>16532189
Think we had it in 4th grade or something, natural science. Jesus christ you're in trouble if you have to go to the boy scouts to learn how shit works.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 09:41:03 UTC No. 16532386
>>16532372
If going FTL makes you unobservable to the rest of the universe for the duration of transit, it should still work without paradoxes, I think
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 10:37:29 UTC No. 16532408
Yeah Im thinkin youre all idiots
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 11:07:04 UTC No. 16532411
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 11:10:32 UTC No. 16532412
>>16532408
we always were
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 11:16:54 UTC No. 16532414
>>16532348
>congratulations, you have reached our solar next door neighbour. Unfortunately, none of the planets there are habitable for whatever reason (too hot/cold/gaseous/irradiated). Repeat this for every star in our area and if you're lucky you'll find somewhere within about 20 light years (about 100 stars) with one habitable planet. More likely you'd need to search 40-50 light years out, and deceleration is required so a 0.5c top speed is going to have a much lower average speed across the whole trip - not even beginning with the logistics of needing to send a scout ship to all these candidates first and waiting most of a human lifetime for a go/no-go response once they arrive (even if they just do a flyby)
This. Midwits simply can't comprehend the time scale involved vs the human lifetime. Then compare it with how much history has moved in the past two or three centuries. There's a reason we call it a light YEAR. Plus it takes twice the time you think it will because you have to slow down so you can STOP at said planet. And that's just a one-way trip.
And they think they can just yolo yeet a ship to one of the few nearby stars and find a planet within a few light years, much less tens of light years? Without even being able to see any of those planets from Urf yet?
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 11:21:47 UTC No. 16532415
>>16532414
by the time we are able to send colonists to other star systems we will also be able to colonize a wider variety of worlds
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 11:35:53 UTC No. 16532419
>>16532415
You don't seem to comprehend the variety that's out there. The chance of finding even a Mars-like rock isn't great. Even the basics of an atmosphere and energy and not being in the middle of radiation (for moons) aren't going to be common.
Anyhow, you don't just blindly jump off a cliff and hope there's a parachute down there.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 11:36:59 UTC No. 16532420
>>16532414
Even with FTL, it takes an outrageously high multiple of C to get anywhere meaningfully fast. In a lot of contexts, even 1000 times the speed of light is slow: going to Alpha Centuari would take a full day and a half.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:04:05 UTC No. 16532430
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Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:08:28 UTC No. 16532436
>>16532429
Kys redditard
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:10:15 UTC No. 16532437
>>16532434
It'll be interesting to see if they hit 13 launches this year. I will not be surprised if it falls a few launches short of that, especially if there's an operational landing mishap.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:10:19 UTC No. 16532438
>>16532429
writing a novel and expecting me to be literate enough for it is crazy
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:12:43 UTC No. 16532440
>>16532438
Learn how to speak English and stop using Baidu Translate.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:16:44 UTC No. 16532442
>>16532438
>>16532440
>Monkeyniggers dont call out the reddit
>Proceed to call each other indians
Pottery
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:17:39 UTC No. 16532443
>>16532442
Baidu is Chinese, dumbass. And content wise, it's actually a good post.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:44:04 UTC No. 16532450
>ftl jerking
It isn't happening faggots, get over it.
>b-but mommy shotwell says
She's a salesman
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:46:49 UTC No. 16532453
>modi is big on pushing for indian spaceflight
imagine if the country wasnt poor, they could be competitive with china
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:47:48 UTC No. 16532454
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:49:44 UTC No. 16532456
>>16532454
2/5 ain't that bad a success rate if you rewrite what success means, I guess.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:53:40 UTC No. 16532457
>>16532454
I think Tory is getting a little desperate
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:53:48 UTC No. 16532458
>>16532456
Those at least weren't ULA's fault, but their certification missions have been a bit hit and miss this year.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:55:59 UTC No. 16532459
>>16532458
Both certification missions were only a "success" under ULA's very broad definitions, but yeah, I considered putting in an asterisk for the Shitliner but couldn't be arsed waiting for the post timer.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:57:35 UTC No. 16532461
>>16532459
Peregrine's lunar lander broke after deployment. Vulcan Cert 2 was an issue with the rocket.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 12:58:58 UTC No. 16532464
>>16531968
the F35 is a good jet thoughever, it just had an awful development cycle.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 13:04:08 UTC No. 16532465
>>16532457
when you cant litigate, innov- wait
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 13:06:25 UTC No. 16532466
>>16532041
i think you mean seething lefties intentionally staging an explosion
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 13:07:36 UTC No. 16532467
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Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 13:13:35 UTC No. 16532470
>>16532348
bruh we have 2 habitable planets in our solar system, planets good enough for humans to live on are probably pretty common.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 13:14:24 UTC No. 16532472
>>16532470
>Two
Which one's your second?
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 13:15:59 UTC No. 16532473
>>16532291
kino image, thanks for sharing.
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 13:23:38 UTC No. 16532482
>>16532298
gay ziggers in outer space
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 13:38:22 UTC No. 16532494
>>16532364
Feel free to fuck off and never come back
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 16:03:09 UTC No. 16532663
>>16532348
>if you're lucky you'll find somewhere within about 20 light years (about 100 stars) with one habitable planet
You don't know, how could you
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Jan 2025 17:29:14 UTC No. 16532774
>>16532094
>booming industry
I see what you did there
>>16532003
>>16532009
>>16532081
too bad it didn't hold together better, or we'd have a recap of this great VW ad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUt