Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 15:42:18 UTC No. 16548308

>>16531197
It's pretty easy: just be good-looking. You are good-looking right? Right?

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 15:48:38 UTC No. 16548319

Should I choose a chemistry research topic that is as close to what industry is doing (synthetic organic chemistry or semiconductors) or a research topic that involves be an expert in lots of laboratory methods/analytical techniques and instruments?
The internet is telling me to do the former but people irl is saying the latter.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 15:55:39 UTC No. 16548326

Has anyone here worked at a Nuclear Fusion laboratory?
How is it?

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 16:00:06 UTC No. 16548333

>>16548326
I have not worked there by check the Glassdoor reviews of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory:
https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Lawrence-Livermore-National-Laboratory-Reviews-E35235.htm

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 16:10:06 UTC No. 16548346

>>16536591
>Mainly the general subject knowledge and methodology/instrumentation familiarity are skills that ended up being useful
Good to know. Did publications matter at all?

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 16:12:40 UTC No. 16548350

>>16548251

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 16:16:39 UTC No. 16548358

>>16543168
>The longer I remain here the more unemployable I become
Please elaborate on this. Many people think those government labs are the most prestigious positions you can get in research.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 16:20:55 UTC No. 16548359

>>16548350
Can you elaborate on your future goals. How much experience do you have and in what?
But generally, consider going to graduate school or switching to an adjacent field like IT or something. There should be some IT help desk positions available somewhere.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 16:23:26 UTC No. 16548363

>>16548359
Cs degree + internships and 2yoe doing backend .Net development.

Right now I'm trying to find anything that ideally avoids the time and monetary costs of retraining as much as possible.

Don't think grad school is an option for me rn.
I've been looking at IT for sure.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 16:34:32 UTC No. 16548371

>>16547588
I am a semester into my PhD program right after graduating from my undergraduate college and I feel so underprepared for everything. I thought it was just imposter syndrome until I failed a class. I am thinking of dropping and enlisting in the military.
I have no idea why there are people with years of industry experience doing a PhD in the first place. Maybe they got fired and are waiting out the bad job market?

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 17:44:33 UTC No. 16548449

>>16548319
Wait what? Isn't synthesis pretty much dead and semi-conductors extremely niche and most industry jobs for chemists being analytics slaves? I think you got it wrong.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 18:47:36 UTC No. 16548536

>>16548449
>synthesis pretty much dead
That's what I read online. Pharmaceutical research is getting more complex and more regulated each year.
>semi-conductors extremely niche
I am not sure about that, but TSMC's new plants in Arizona is already a disappointment and construction isn't even done yet and there have been massive layoffs in industries related to semi-conductors so overall, the job market for it is in the gutter.
>most industry jobs for chemists being analytics slaves
So should I focus on learning about as much analytical techniques and instruments as possible during graduate school?
>I think you got it wrong
Yes. I regret getting a chemistry degree and getting into STEM overall.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 21:09:37 UTC No. 16548650

Whatever happened to young executives and why aren't I one

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 22:22:28 UTC No. 16548728

>>16548650
The crappy job market is making positions that allow formerly-young executives to move up the career ladder very scare and so they stay put where they are. In the meantime, try practicing your leadership skills on the local community via volunteering opportunities.
>>16548363
>avoids the time and monetary costs of retraining as much as possible
Do you not want to retrain because you do not have time to because you work in a warehouse or because of money issues? Or is it both?
If it's because of time, that's understandable, but try to get some learning done, even one class is okay. If it's because of money, there are opencourseware videos and/or free textbooks available (piracy). If it's both, then use the opencourseware and textbooks and take an hour or two a week to learn from them.
Also try asking Workplace, CS, and SWE stack exchange forums.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 23:04:31 UTC No. 16548759

>>16548350
I've been working for UPS loading trucks since September and even though the managers treat me really well I still want to kms too. I know that feel.
I might have finally found a real job now so there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Just keep pushing. Unfortunately you might have to go on LinkedIn and start talking to recruiters

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 23:58:51 UTC No. 16548790

>>16548536
No, you go full steam ahead with semiconductors, materials science, energy science und electrochemistry while not neglecting analytic and spectroscopic methods because you don't what to work taking samples at some fucking municipal water plant for the rest of you life and try to get an industry internship as soon as possible. Something like photovoltaics would be great because it's at the intersection of all of those fields.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 01:01:37 UTC No. 16548827

>>16548728
It's mainly time, but also money lol. Additionally, I don't know if I have it in me to start from square one on something again. Particularly with the way things are in the world rn. Id rather do something lowcode/tech-adjacent than try to enter a completely new career path.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 01:03:47 UTC No. 16548828

>>16548759
Good luck man, you definitely got to do what you got to do in these circumstances.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 01:11:35 UTC No. 16548835

-writing your Bachelor's/Master's thesis as a big national research institute for the prestige
-writing your Bachelor's/Master's thesis as a small industry-adjacent research institute for the compromise
-writing your Bachelor's/Master's thesis at a university department for the better supervision and grade inflation
-writing your Bachelor's/Master's thesis at a private company for the experience and the networking

Which way should I go, sci-man?

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 01:25:56 UTC No. 16548839

>>16548835
4th, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 01:31:42 UTC No. 16548845

>>16548839
>>16548839
So 4th 1st, 1st 2nd, 2nd 3rd and 3rd 4th, yes?

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 02:32:48 UTC No. 16548880

>>16548845
Yes. I should have clarified that. But don't just take my advice only. If you have the time, wait a week to get possibly get more answers. Or try asking other forums.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 06:10:09 UTC No. 16549270

>>16543168
Medical physics is just the new meme certification. They've got thousands of paranoid physics grads dropping tons of money on cert programs that can take years, and in the end your best case scenario is you get to compete with some Indian or African H1B workers for a job as an MRI tech or spreadsheeting out radiation treatment plans for cancer patients.

🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 13:12:49 UTC No. 16550297

I don't get why successful anons ITT didn't seek work at NVIDIA. If you're smart you have no excuse for not being a millionaire in stem

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 13:36:06 UTC No. 16550306

Should I study Chemistry which I like and can do somewhat easily, or Biology which I love but will have to temporarily sacrifice my relationship for? What aere the job prospects for either? I'm quitting my job to go back to uni and I need to make sure I make the right decision.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 13:49:23 UTC No. 16550316

Any good universities in Sweden for RF/microwave work ?

🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 14:13:48 UTC No. 16550346

>>16550297
Like I really really don't get it. Imagine being born smart enough to do semis or RF but you waste your life away by not being a millionaire. It makes me so fucking mad, the world is your oyster

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 14:45:36 UTC No. 16550377

>>16550297
>>16550346
1. didn't want to get a PhD
2. didn't want to live in California
3. didn't go to school in California so never would have been hired anyways
4. I'm white

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 14:47:27 UTC No. 16550381

>>16548728
>try practicing your leadership skills on the local community via volunteering opportunities.

Understood I will start dealing tina immediately

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 14:50:25 UTC No. 16550386

Allow me to hate for a minute:

Nathan Lambert looks like a gay gray alien. He looks like he frequents bathhouses and it makes me sick to look at him. Also I hate LLMs and anyone who endeavours to make them better and thus usher in the coming mass surveillance and control prison planet we will all be living in.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 14:52:51 UTC No. 16550390

>>16550386
The true nature of the bugman, what he fundamentally represents when stripped of all pretention, is science divorced from philosophy.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 14:54:03 UTC No. 16550391

>>16550390
Honestly so true mate and he's fucking ugly to boot.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 14:57:33 UTC No. 16550397

>>16550391
I think we should go back to Greek standards. All the men walk around wearing togas and those who have muscular bodies inherently have more credibility than dweebs built like twigs. The muscular body symbolizes a stronger connection to reality.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 16:05:38 UTC No. 16550517

>M-W is 14 hour days in the field
>Th is 3 hours WFH paperwork and a meeting
>F-Su off

This schedule is killing me lads

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 16:13:52 UTC No. 16550535

>>16550517
Yea my first job after college was a field service engineer and I quickly realized 12 hour days are not for me. I was also insanely resentful of the office engineers who just slurp coffee and sit at the computer all day. But in this job market I would not leave until you have something else lined up.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 16:14:50 UTC No. 16550538

its over for me

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 16:17:01 UTC No. 16550542

>full-time Industry PhD at a high-end manufacturing company in collaboration with my university and the national space agency

Should I even bother writing an application?

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 16:18:01 UTC No. 16550545

>>16550316
Look at LinkedIn and search at what universities the engineers of Ericsson and Gripen studied at.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 16:21:47 UTC No. 16550547

>>16550535
The coffee slurpers tell me

>OMG you get half days on Thursday and a three day weekend every week!

No you desk nigger, I spend Thursday and Friday sleeping and letting my body heal with maybe getting drunk on Saturday night with the existential dread of what Monday brings.

The only thing that makes this job worth it is the per diem. At least I get to eat steak n lobster every night.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 16:55:22 UTC No. 16550587

>>16550306
The job market for both STEM fields suck at the moment. For chemistry, the best fields is synthetic organic chemstry/medicinal chemistry or semiconductors but both industries are getting hit with layoffs and/or regulation. I guess you can be a technician, but your research will have to involve a lot of analytical methods and instruments. But generally, the chemistry job market sucks. IDK about biology, but it is always been worse than chemistry.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 16:57:27 UTC No. 16550590

>>16550538
It's over for most people. We're just the ones that notice it.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 18:03:44 UTC No. 16550695

Math PhD anon here. Should I get a second master in physics or cs? I'm leaning cs, but the industry is in bad shape. I actually have some renewed interest in physics so that might be the way to go.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 18:04:46 UTC No. 16550699

>>16550316
KTH

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 18:15:54 UTC No. 16550720

>>16550538
Man its so over for me it's all that I can do not to rope.
How did things get so fucked. Idk. But this sucks.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jan 2025 22:34:10 UTC No. 16551422

>>16548346
>>Did publications matter at all?

In my case, not really, and I doubt the people recruiting me read any of them. My publications were in their general ballpark, but in the end quite distinct from what the company was doing, both in terms of materials class and methods.

More generally, I think they can be meaningful if they happen to line up well with what your employer is doing. It's a tangible output demonstrating knowledge and achievement in your specialty.

I think especially people with academic background might raise their eyebrows if you are a doctor with no publications, but it's not the be-all-end-all metric like in academia.


>>16548449
>semi-conductors extremely niche
It's a huge industry with extremely broad and active research and development. Not only for the materials directly, but also within applications, characterization, equipment, you name it.


>>16550695
What doors do you think a masters in physics would open that are not currently open to you? Physics is the kind of degree I think universities were made for and learning for its own sake has value, but it is very much not a vocational degree. If you're looking to make yourself more employable, I would definitely go CS over physics, unless you have a specific path involving physics in your mind. Whatever generic qualifications a physics masters would give you, you already have.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 01:05:09 UTC No. 16552857

>>16548346
>>16551422
Most employers aren't going to get into the nitty gritty of your publications, if they read them at all. For the most part they're just interested in
a) the fact that you're capable of doing the work involved in publishing a research paper, the research itself and the review process, and
b) if your research is even vaguely in their own wheelhouse, which may score you some points.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 02:52:57 UTC No. 16553036

sup stinkys

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 10:30:31 UTC No. 16553504

My supervisor and his little butt boy effective altruist accomplice are cruising for some bruisings. Maybe I'll use my charm, winning smile and everything I'm learning from reading books on improvisational theatre to put them at ease, maybe have a few drinks in a social setting then BLAMMMMO spinning back kick into a fucking canal

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 14:30:07 UTC No. 16553738

My STEM career is a brutal mire of tedium and failure. Every day brings a fresh humiliation.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 14:32:38 UTC No. 16553742

>>16552857
high level, show some passion for what you are doing, particularly what they will be expecting you to do for them.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 14:47:06 UTC No. 16553765

There are college kids that have never used git that are closer to getting a SWE role than I am as a mid-level, because of an employment gap

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 15:02:57 UTC No. 16553790

People always told me to join the power industry for the "stability" but after a year of working at a major utility it has been anything but stable. Layoffs, c-suit level firings, constant management and organizational changes, and daily terroristic threats from disgruntled customers. Combined with a low salary and a "temp-to-hire, no benefits" contract model for new employees, working in power feels like a giant scam. The guys at the top are doing good though I guess.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 15:17:42 UTC No. 16553798

>>16551422
>Physics is the kind of degree I think universities were made for
What did he mean by this?

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 15:19:21 UTC No. 16553799

>>16553798
It would take a while to explain, but the short version is - he's a massive faggot. And also quite stupid.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 15:20:47 UTC No. 16553802

I have a bs in cheme. Is it worth it to get a masters if my company pays for it?

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 15:22:25 UTC No. 16553803

>>16553802
>is it worth getting something for free?
For a STEM oriented place why does this general have to many low IQ posters?

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 15:44:18 UTC No. 16553825

>>16553802
No.
Just make sure you are constantly grinding LeetChem and developing new synthesis techniques in your home lab to demonstrate passion.
Also practice answering cultural-fitness questions and you should make it through at least 4 or the 5 interview rounds.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 15:52:26 UTC No. 16553841

Is it normal to do literally nothing in the office

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 15:57:39 UTC No. 16553848

>>16553841
Yes

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 16:08:38 UTC No. 16553871

1. Continue current engineer job until I retire.
Pros
>Easy and will live a well off life
>great benefits, pension+401k
>very secure
>wfh a lot
Cons:
>not intellectually stimulating at all
>very very boring work

2. study to try to get nyc/chicago quant job
Pros:
>most lucrative path by far
>don’t have to quit current job while studying for this
>can do part time intern work whenever through connections with wall st/ceo level people to at least get some finance experience
Cons:
>have to move to nyc or Chicago
>competitive, no guarantee I make it
>harder path

3. Study, go back for a phd in physics and try to get a research scientist job in industry or government lab.
Pros:
>what I would do if money and time were no object
>still good pay+well off life if I make it but never super rich as option 2
>work on exciting problems instead of being a monkey
Cons:
>Riskiest option, would have to leave my job for a big pay cut during phd, no guarantees I finish it or get a job after
>possibly the least lucrative option long term, due to disruption of current pay/trajectories

My current job will reimburse some education every year so I could get another bachelors or masters while working

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 16:11:50 UTC No. 16553876

>>16553871
Job market is shit and there are no golden tickets. I recommend staying at your current job

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 16:13:56 UTC No. 16553877

>>16553876
This. Maybe do some online classes if you like.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 16:32:49 UTC No. 16553896

>>16553871
Also I had been accepted to a good Phd program in 2020 and decided to go for a more “prestigious” place for masters instead, underestimating the price and due to outside factors was severely depressed and barely graduated. Don’t know if it’s even worth putting on a resume it was so bad. it is the biggest regret of my life not going for the PhD back then idk why im so retard

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 16:49:40 UTC No. 16553911

>>16553871
was there a question?

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 16:50:45 UTC No. 16553913

>>16553896
Dude, why would you turn down a PhD position. They are rare. Only 1-2% of people have a PhD .

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 17:06:21 UTC No. 16553926

>>16553911
Tell me what to do I have a track record of bad life decisions
>>16553913
Idk man I thought I could just get a masters and do a PhD after if I wanted or get a job. Does not work that well when you skip all your classes and barely graduate. The place I could’ve gone wasn’t even bad it is good and has partnerships with big tech and government labs I was just fucking retarded

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 17:43:23 UTC No. 16553978

I literally cannot stand ""working"" as an engineer. Even teaching high school was 10x better than this literal hell on earth.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 17:56:16 UTC No. 16554001

Slam dunk effective altruists into trash cans. Set them on fire. Stub their toes. Give them atomic wedgies. Take their precious Harry potter fan fiction religious texts and throw them into a sewer.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 18:11:34 UTC No. 16554037

Best job avoidance degree?

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 18:18:58 UTC No. 16554048

I want to die.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 18:27:00 UTC No. 16554062

>>16553978
whats so bad about it

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 20:47:36 UTC No. 16554236

>>16553978
Compared to undergrad studying every single fucking day of my life, my boring job has been an absolute fucking blessing. I got lucky in that the group I work with mostly happens to be some really cool guys. I'm sure the same job but with less likeable/cohesive people would be much worse but I'm just appreciating what I have while I have it.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 21:56:03 UTC No. 16554340

>>16553765
You can say "I took some time off to learn some skills that the job market demands such as [insert required a skill in the job description]" or something like that on your CV.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 22:18:18 UTC No. 16554372

I want a phd because that gates off the good money in biochem jobs but none of the colleges near my work offer a chem postgrad program. Would going for a bio phd be a decent substitute? Or alternatively do those online phd programs have any merit to them or are they just scams? Desu idk wtf Im doing

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jan 2025 22:20:07 UTC No. 16554373

>>16554372
>do those online phd programs have any merit to them or are they just scams?

Never heard of a legitimate correspondence course PhD and it's hard to see how it would be anything but a scam.

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jan 2025 00:15:40 UTC No. 16554551

Another week of pathetic salary in the books.

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jan 2025 01:20:42 UTC No. 16554613

Will photonics boom within the next decade?

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jan 2025 01:30:43 UTC No. 16554622

does anyone here live in a country where the population is declining by 0.5 to 1% per year and there is absolutely no immigration?

it must be like a paradise because it frees up so many entry level jobs right?

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jan 2025 01:58:00 UTC No. 16554641

>>16554622
Line must go up.
At all costs.
Up to and including nuclear annihilation.

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jan 2025 03:20:03 UTC No. 16554718

What the fuck is a Systems Engineering degree?

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jan 2025 14:37:06 UTC No. 16555157

>>16554613
current quantum computing tech is photonics based, so yeah

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jan 2025 14:39:50 UTC No. 16555160

>>16554236
This, every morning I wake up feeling thankful I am not in uni anymore. Also, learning on the job is so, sooo much less stressful yet more efficient than in uni.

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 00:45:51 UTC No. 16555803

Is it worth it to do collaborations with other people, labs, or even universities or should I only do it when necessary? I noticed my research has a noticeable overlap with other research from other colleges/universities in my area and I was thinking of reaching out to work with them. It could expand my network but it also is kind of time-consuming and I do not want to rely on others for results.
Would it even be possible for ugly males like me or is there a looks requirement to collaborations?

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 01:47:45 UTC No. 16555843

>>16551422
Where do you go to learn about the upcoming trends and demands of the chemicals industry? O

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 10:48:41 UTC No. 16556080

I was putting the moves on my woman this morning, I'm a sensual lover so I like to get in mood: candles, massage oil, Barry white, you know what it is. And guess who sends me an email, on a motherfucking Sunday, asking me to send some little piece of code or some shit I'd already sent? My fucking supervisor. I forgot to turn my phone off, see it out of the corner of my eye and immediately the mood is SHATTERED.

I am going to KILL this honkey motherfucker, ruining my sex life too now damn

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 16:07:01 UTC No. 16556224

>>16554718
Weapons

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 16:43:29 UTC No. 16556246

I've been clicking on so many profiles of beautiful women on Linkedin (on private mode) that the Linkedin algorithm is beginning to show me profiles of women that are in different countries, with 0 mutual connections, who I have no relation to whatsoever, but who's profile pictures show they're exactly my type.

Its kinda creepy how Linkedin was able to accurately identify the kind of women I'm attracted just from me clicking on about half a dozen profiles of random women. I didn't know it could do that.

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 16:48:56 UTC No. 16556248

>>16555843
Conferences. AIChE has them all the time.

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 16:52:29 UTC No. 16556250

>>16554718
>>16556224

“Systems” is a polite euphemism for weapons platforms. Whether that be missiles, tanks, fighter jets, whatever. They use words like “systems” or “platforms” and “target effectiveness” and a whole slew of other corpo buzzwords to dance around the fact that they’re trying to find ways to vaporize Muslims at +2% better efficiency.

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 17:50:23 UTC No. 16556290

>>16556250
Yeah I'll never forget when I interviewed at one of the major defense contractors for an optics position and they phrased that the primary job responsibility was gathering data for "transient flash events." Took me a minute to realize that was the phrase they use to mean "explosions"

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 18:17:31 UTC No. 16556320

>>16556246
Is it working for you so far? Have you been able to get on dates?
>>16556248
I'm too poor and busy for conferences. There's no website I can go to? I know C&EN has some useful articles.

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 18:18:07 UTC No. 16556322

>>16556320
Your employer is supposed to send you.

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 18:19:11 UTC No. 16556324

How bad is it to job hop after only 6 months?

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 18:20:44 UTC No. 16556327

>>16556324
You should at least complete a big project and get a promotion / new responsibilities / recommendations. If you can do that in 6 months, fine. I heard that in Big Tech the magical number is 1 to 2 years.

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 18:20:50 UTC No. 16556328

>>16556324
It's understandable if the workplace is hostile/toxic/incompatible.

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 19:12:20 UTC No. 16556372

>>16556324
6 months is bad unless it's just a really bad fit; if it's just okay 1-2 years for industry, 2-3 for academia

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 19:15:45 UTC No. 16556377

I have a math BA from a top 40. Which is better if I want to get into data science or software engineering?

MS in Computer Science from a 50th-60th ranked school

MS in Data Science from a #1, #2, #3 ranked school

MS in ECE at a ~30 ranked school (also opening up some EE/CE jobs)

Or is this market just fucked and I'm better off doing something else?

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 20:13:28 UTC No. 16556426

>>16553841
when you've reached this point, you know you've made it

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 20:22:40 UTC No. 16556438

>>16556377
Data science is jeeted.

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 20:43:34 UTC No. 16556459

>>16556377
>data science or software engineering
data engineering

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 21:30:53 UTC No. 16556541

>>16556377
>top 30 school is going to let some random math major into the MS program despite having completed non of the prerequisite undergrad coursework
good luck with that

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 23:07:10 UTC No. 16556643

>>16556541
I’ve already secured the admit so cope harder. I have to take some EE undergrad prereqs obviously.

>>16556459
This is my concern.
It seems like software and data is a bunch of Chinese and Indians hiring exclusively other Indians and Chinese, is this a correct assumption?

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Jan 2025 00:26:17 UTC No. 16556692

Backpacking until I run out of money after finishing Master's later this year. After that? Who knows.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Jan 2025 00:47:09 UTC No. 16556710

>>16556692
>After that?
Chronic unemployment.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Jan 2025 01:16:14 UTC No. 16556755

this story written by AI

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Jan 2025 03:11:33 UTC No. 16556882

>>16556755
So why the jeets if they have AI anyways?

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Jan 2025 03:48:09 UTC No. 16556921

>Offered a graduate level job with well above average starting salary despite botching the behavioral interview question
>No reference check (9 out of 10 companies does this in my country) but got contract sent out to me anyway
>Less than 10 days before I start and no email about day-1 onboarding
>Checked all my correspondence and jobportal
>No emails since last year, e-copy of contract disappeared from my jobportal
I'm not feeling too good about this bros...

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Jan 2025 08:00:07 UTC No. 16557054

Each night I go to sleep thinking of my failures, and everyday I wake up and think about them some more. Humiliation, diminishment, disrespect. These are the emotional north stars of my life.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Jan 2025 10:28:46 UTC No. 16557133

>>16557054
Everyone feels like that from time to time. Still: WAGMI. And that is *all* of us.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Jan 2025 14:24:32 UTC No. 16557389

>>16556438
Everything is hyperjeeted bro. There are Pajeets in Physics, Maffs, EE/CStrannery, etc. There are Pajeets in the sea, Pajeets, in the air, Pajeets in Antarctica, Pajeets in space. You live in a Pajeet universe. Just get used to it.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Jan 2025 14:57:37 UTC No. 16557420

>>16557054
Holy shit man you're literally me. I get anxiety attacks frquently for the past few years and probably insomnia too.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Jan 2025 14:58:52 UTC No. 16557422

I had planned to do research and publish a paper in my undergrad. Unfortunately, I didn't really get a chance and now its too late for one. Can I just do a thesis Masters instead? Do employers give more points to people who publish research paper in Masters? I want to eventually work a research role. Is a PhD a must?

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Jan 2025 15:15:23 UTC No. 16557446

>>16557422
Research experience is not needed at all if you wanna work as a cashier at Target.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Jan 2025 15:19:43 UTC No. 16557453

>>16557422

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Jan 2025 16:11:44 UTC No. 16557515

>>16556643
>I have to take some EE undergrad prereqs obviously.
and by "some" you mean like 2.5 years worth

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Jan 2025 16:22:36 UTC No. 16557524

>>16557389
Maffs and physics are pretty safe. Jeets are too smart to fall for that trap.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Jan 2025 21:32:03 UTC No. 16557960

>>16557515
It's like a summer and a semester of prereq's and then 3 sem for the masters.

Physics I-II
Circuits
Signals and Systems
Logic Design
Computer Architecture

Already have Calc I-III, DiffEq, Lin, Prob, Math Stats, Programming, Algorithms, Software Eng from undergrad.

But on a more serious note: will my resume look like fucking junk with a BA in Math and an MS in Computer Engineering? Does it look bush league to have the masters in eng without the bachelors?

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Jan 2025 22:05:06 UTC No. 16557995

Does anyone here have experience with these German research institutes (Especially Max Planck society)? I am currently searching for a PhD position and there is a pretty new research group at a Max Planck institute with research that I find really interesting. I am considering to apply there. But I have heard that these institutions can be brutal and tyrannical even for academia standards. Do you think it's safer to apply to "normal" universities if I don't want to become suicidal or is my fear baseless? (I am from German myself if that matters)

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 01:23:22 UTC No. 16558176

>>16557995
What do you mean by brutal? Usually they pay better than university PhD who mostly only pay 50% TvöD and don't require to participate in teaching.

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 04:14:12 UTC No. 16558312

>>16557422
>I had planned to publish a paper in my undergrad
this is the third undergrad i've heard this from in the last year. learn how to walk before you start planning to run a marathon

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 08:36:19 UTC No. 16558489

I'm doing my master's in aerospace eng, I'm thinking of specialising in fluid dynamics, how fucked am I from 1 to 10?

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 09:43:18 UTC No. 16558549

>>16558489

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 15:35:07 UTC No. 16558800

>>16558312
It's practically a prerequisite to get into a good grad school now in some fields. It's an arms race.

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 16:54:01 UTC No. 16558875

Nearly thirty years old and never had an Asian girl friend... What kind of a sorry excuse for an engineer am I?

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 17:31:48 UTC No. 16558916

>>16554372
Online phds in stem are a meme. Online phds in Education might be worth it because teachers

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 17:53:00 UTC No. 16558949

>>16557995
You need teaching experience to make it in academia.

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 18:12:45 UTC No. 16558971

they just ended birthright citizenship to screw with my future unborn children

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 18:35:39 UTC No. 16558997

>>16558971
Pajeet detected.

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 18:47:18 UTC No. 16559010

Starting my MS/PhD soon in Oregon (EE), is it possible to face racism (jeet here) ? I am extremely introverted and kinda sensitive to a lot of things (never had time to socialize and do stuff)

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 19:15:59 UTC No. 16559046

>>16559010
Oregon State?

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 19:34:01 UTC No. 16559057

>>16559046
Yes, this spring

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 20:12:53 UTC No. 16559088

>>16558997
europeans born in america aren't allowed a passport either you paki

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 20:52:35 UTC No. 16559105

>>16559057
Well congrats from a fellow beaver

Corvallis is a small town, so you shouldn't have too many issues with being stuck in crowded environments. You will inevitably have to interact with a number of people to get by, but be friendly and they will respond in kind. You are a pajeet which is going to get you a small amount of ire due to the recent H1b debates (especially if you don't shower/deodorize frequently), but you can also be a based pajeet like my postgraduate TA Prashant. Oregon is a liberal state so you shouldn't have much of a problem with racism. Make sure your living space is good and do utilize the CSEE buildings, they're the nicest in the entire engineering department. You will do fine if you ask for help and act cordial to everyone you meet.

On weekends try to make some trips out of town, you might feel a little isolated after a while. Fortunately there's something notable to see or do in every cardinal direction.

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 01:13:38 UTC No. 16559299

>>16558800
Doing some undergraduate research, showing that you can follow directions, work with equipment, contribute to the process, maybe present a poster or something, that'll already put you head and shoulders above 80% of grad school applicants who just sit in classes and do nothing else.

Trying to solo author a peer reviewed article in your third or fourth year of undergrad is fucking retarded. You're basically going out of your way to make a fool of yourself.

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 01:49:26 UTC No. 16559322

>>16548371
You are a fucking retarded for even enertaining the idea of enlisting you need to commission asap dont play those enlisted games

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 09:30:39 UTC No. 16559700

>>16559299
They aren't solo authoring they are utilising their disgusting effective altruist networks to get involved with LLM interpretability research.

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 16:50:44 UTC No. 16560100

>>16548371
>I have no idea why there are people with years of industry experience doing a PhD in the first place.
because they're tired of being bottom feeder test engineers that are as far away from science as a canary is from a coal mine. a PhD brings the canary to the coal mine

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 17:12:49 UTC No. 16560120

>>16559322
Enlisted is a better way to go if, and only if, you plan on doing a single tour and getting out. Junior officers spend their first tour not even doing their jobs, it’s spent just learning how to be an officer. The officers mess is going to treat you like the nobody you are and most of your time is holding the pocket of some E7. It doesn’t get good for zeros until the very end of your first tour and that’s by design to get you to sign another contract. The whole benefit of being an officer are the connections you make but that doesn’t start to happen till O3. Your pay and living quarters are better, sure, but joining the military and caring about pay is kinda dumb. Might as well get a regular corpo job at that point.

Enlisted on the other hand, you stop being “new” after a year and will have 4-12 other guys working for you, doing your actual job. You also have way less pressure put on you and get way more time off.

Once again, this is only if you do a single 4-5 year tour and get out. Once your on your second contract as an officer, it’s absolutely 1000x better than enlisted.

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 17:57:21 UTC No. 16560151

As a physicist who's gonna specialize in computational physics, mostly focused on statistics and machine-learning, what language should I learn if I want to be better at writing and understanding efficient code?
I already know Python and I was considering C or Rust,

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 18:18:55 UTC No. 16560177

>>16559105
Thanks anon, is it possible to gain internships in companies like Nvidia, intel, ARM in-gap of MS-PhD ?

(BTW Is dating completely over for me(6/10) as a jeet ? I am 5"10

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 18:51:19 UTC No. 16560227

>>16560151
C and assembly

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 18:53:23 UTC No. 16560231

>one year into my PhD
>realize it is basically an obsolete research direction
>supervisor does not want to drop it and pivot because he is emotionally and reputationally invested in it, not the mention the funding is directly tied to it

Has anyone been in such a situation. I basically have to do busy work for the rest of my PhD and have my name associated with something I do not believe in.

I already decided I am going to drop out but holy shit I never even imagined shit like this could happen.

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 18:57:21 UTC No. 16560235

>>16560151
>As a physicist who's gonna specialize in computational physics, mostly focused on statistics and machine-learning
>physics
>computational physics
>machine learning

Run, fast and far away. That intersection is a minefield of projects that look plausible at first but are actually complete deadends.

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:13:33 UTC No. 16560262

Electrical engineering is a trap.
They sell it to you "oh look how broad it is, everything uses electricity, there are so many career paths" but none of your experience is counted for any other path. You get pigeon holed into an EXTREMELY specific type of work and then you have horrible job prospects because you have to locate that same exact type of job or else you are considered the same as a Walmart stocker in terms of experience.

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:15:04 UTC No. 16560264

>>16560227
I'm surprised you recommend assembly for my purposes. Why? And what resources would you recommend?
>>16560235
Please elaborate, I might need a word of advice on this. I like /g/ stuff, but am about to finish this Bsc, and I don't wanna start on something else.

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:35:15 UTC No. 16560285

>>16560264
OK so basically there was a lot of hype about using machine learning to learn physics. That shit mostly does not work. Stay away from any such project.

There are also other more promising applications of machine learning for physical applications. Like using machine learning to cluster data from the LHC. That is much more reasonable. Or using machine learning to generate some candidate structures/solutions that you can then test and iterate on.

But honestly, my advice is, do pure machine learning. It's much more lucrative.
Or do pure classical computational physics and learn to code in CUDA on HPCs and then you can switch to being a CUDA/HPC guru after you graduate.

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:35:34 UTC No. 16560362

I just got a job offer covering everything I need in terms of salary and location. I'd owe my company nearly $25k of I left for this because I haven't filled the time they ask for after paying for my MS. I'm also working with a recruiter who claims that they bristled against raising the relocation bonus to cover that, and it sounds like both of them intend on having me review and accept the offer via the recruiter.
Is it a bad move if I circumvent the recruiter to contact the hiring manager directly, and to ask them to cover the full amount? They've sent out the offer already, so it's not like they can do anything but say no, right? Would that piss the recruiter or company off?

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 22:52:09 UTC No. 16560490

>office full of mostly decent people
>get assigned to team with the assholes

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 22:56:17 UTC No. 16560494

>the patent examiner job I applied for 2.5 years ago and never heard a peep about was just canceled due to the "executive order federal hiring freeze" and this is the only time they emailed me about it
DRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMPPPPFFFF!!!!!

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 23:01:23 UTC No. 16560507

>high IQ enough to get a stem degree
>too dumb to do anything with it
It's over

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 00:04:37 UTC No. 16560593

>>16560362
>>16560362
The recruiter would get paid already no matter what. You aren’t really circumventing anything. Recruiters make money off a % of your salary bonuses like that don’t apply

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 06:24:38 UTC No. 16560992

>>16560262
IT, Telecommunications, RF, Radio, Satellite Communications, Radar. Common man you can join us retards on the lightly blue collar side of the house and your degree will mean your treated like a god amongst the short buss.

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 07:12:09 UTC No. 16561027

>>16558971
Just get an American wife (male) bro
Super ez

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 08:40:39 UTC No. 16561061

>>16548306
Did I shoot myself in the foot?
I have a masters from EPFL in EE and took a minor in physics, I did "okay" but mostly got my ass handed to me, poor grades here and there. but I have high grades for anything EE/CS however.

Do I really have to work as a lab assistant for a couple of years before applying so that I can make up for this with publications? I dont want to settle for a subpar PhD.

I know people in the US often have stellar grade and their undergrads allow them to do a bunch of research and put their name out there. I dont even know how Im going to compete. I could find a lab in EU but this continent is dying in every single aspects that matter to me. GradCafe is depressing to see, I dont know why and how there are so many with 4.0s, publications and shit all while in undergrad, I want what Americans have, I want opportunities, fuck me I just want to go to the US.

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 09:04:49 UTC No. 16561077

>>16561061
Go get some valuable work experience at some high tech company where you can actually get to do some cool this.
I recommend Zeiss or ASML but there are plenty of others too.

It looks much better on a PhD application than being in academic limbo. Also you might end up realizing you don't want to do the PhD after all.

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 09:09:45 UTC No. 16561081

The only thing I got out of my PhD was that I hated doing research.
I though research == problem solving == fun.
But actually, research is mostly gambling with your time and your life opportunities.
You throw the dice and you hope you get something interesting. Most of the time you get nothing.

All I realized is that I wanted to be an engineer all along.

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 10:39:35 UTC No. 16561137

>>16561081
Building is way more fun than researching. I guess ideally you'd be able to do both. Research driven by concrete and immediate needs is highly enjoyable. Academic research on the other hand feels like you're just a cog in the student gradient descent machine. It's no fun.

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 13:17:37 UTC No. 16561263

>>16553926
>Tell me what to do I have a track record of bad life decisions
Not the one you replied to, but adversity builds character. Try to balance money and comfort, but prioritize money. If you have money everything else becomes extra.

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 16:01:24 UTC No. 16561400

>>16560992
Application rejected.
No experience.
3 years needed for entry level.

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 16:59:10 UTC No. 16561482

>>16560593
Lmao he was audibly upset that I reached out
He told them that I told him I was able to pay it off just fine and was upset because now we're apparently saying two different things
Is this the power of recruiting companies?

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 17:46:11 UTC No. 16561529

Anyone here who got a STEM PhD and doesnt regret it?

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 17:47:48 UTC No. 16561532

>>16561529
lmao

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 18:27:27 UTC No. 16561564

>>16561529
It's a SCAM 99% of the time, because it's a gamble with your time and money and most of the time you lose.

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 19:15:04 UTC No. 16561639

>>16536187
>The Fantasy Economy
Well buddy, I read parts of it, seems reasoned, but like he says the common person isn't offered any other path/gamble for middle-class stability. As someone about to start college, what can I do? "Make political policy fairer" is not within my power. The other option is not playing and getting neetbux... how.
My other critique of it is how it's taken for granted that "education" is meaningful and worthwhile, meanwhile public k-12 did nothing except waste my time.
15 minutes

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 19:27:41 UTC No. 16561660

How do I best pretend that my engineering job is endurable?

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 19:29:20 UTC No. 16561663

>>16561639
>public k-12 did nothing except waste my time.
Genuinely curious why you think this way.

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 20:55:43 UTC No. 16561739

About to commence my Master's in chemistry/materials.

Which industry should I get into and get a student job in to not end up unemployed by graduation?
>semiconductors
>photovoltaics
>battery science/energy storage
>fuel cells
>pharma
>data analytics

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 22:34:46 UTC No. 16561813

I need to ask a question about APA citations:

When citing a government article/webpage, should I list the government or the department as the author?
Also, if the website is from the federal government, which do I say the page belongs to?

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 22:36:16 UTC No. 16561816

>>16561813
Just put Elon Musk and when they reject your work claim that you were being discriminated against as a conservative

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 22:39:06 UTC No. 16561822

>>16561816
Doesn't resolve the problem of entire paragraphs looking like:

______(Elon Musk, 2024)_________(Elon Musk, 2015)__________(Elon Musk, 2022).

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 22:40:08 UTC No. 16561824

>>16561813
Not naming the ministry/deparment/office sounds retarded.

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 22:44:57 UTC No. 16561833

>>16561824
In hindsight it does, but I was doing it because everything was on the federal government's website. The department's articles are just a subsection and they rarely have an author listed.

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 23:00:35 UTC No. 16561842

>>16561813 (Me)
Until I hear back from my professor, I'm going to go with the Department as the author and the website as the Government.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 00:59:44 UTC No. 16561925

The orange cheeto has destroyed the economy in record time.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 01:09:29 UTC No. 16561932

>>16550695
Getting a second MSc is usually pointless, you can just orient your PhD towards mathematical physics or TCS if you so wish.
>the industry
Industry generally couldn't care less about grads, it's about the skills you can bring to them

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 03:20:16 UTC No. 16562030

>>16561529
I'm doing one right now. In year 3, losing my mind, hate my advisor, seriously concerned about publishing, haven't taken a weekend off for months, experiments regularly run till odd times of the night, no friends, life sucks, etc. Still don't regret it at all though, I mean what the fuck else would I be doing? I hated my life before this, now I hate my life but I at least have some fun technical goals: goals that are driving me insane but "as-if" something else wouldn't have driven me insane anyway.

So many dumbasses get their phds with no issue anyway. Just join a lab with an advisor that doesn't give a shit or a "cool" advisor that takes everyone out bowling or something and your PhD will be a breeze. No guarantee that you'll publish anything interesting or have a career afterwards, but it will be a chill 5 years and you get some stupid letters after your name. I'm only doing what I'm doing because I'm deranged enough to actually believe in my project. Most people seem not to, or just hop onto whatever and call it a day. If you are the latter, then I definitely recommend doing a phd if you get into a good program, assuming you don't like your current life. And if you are the former, then you have to do it since you'll spiritually suffer otherwise.

All in all, I'd say life could be a lot worse.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 03:21:59 UTC No. 16562032

>>16558875
I'm 26 and never had a girlfriend at all.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 05:29:29 UTC No. 16562109

>>16561663
didn't teach me positive useful skills, lots of shit i already knew, way too slow to cater to tards/repeat stuff/busywork, garbage food, garbage system, slow bus ride to/from. perhaps "did nothing" is too harsh but it definitely was not worthwhile, didn't learn anything interesting.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 06:59:28 UTC No. 16562171

>>16562109
Based NTA but I dropped out of high school December of my 10th grade. If they just gave me the books and told me to take the tests when I was ready I would've been done with high school in 8th grade no doubt. College is much easier and quicker to complete then public school ever was. Now I have a masters degree, 2 bachelors, a bullshit associates and even then I still learned more from certs then from a degree.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 07:35:03 UTC No. 16562191

>>16561639
It's not a self help book

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 11:33:53 UTC No. 16562292

I'm an engineer, I finished my bachelor's a couple months ago and I'm now living in another country invited by the company I work for. I applied to a masters program, which my company supports, but for now I'm spending 1 year just working and having fun, and I never felt better.

My salary is decent and I have a lot of free time, which is something I didn't have for many years doing a full time bachelors and working at the same time.

I'm kinda afraid of getting into the masters program and starting to feel like shit again, but almost every single successful person around me in my field has a PhD, so I'm also afraid of not continuing my studies and becoming a mr nobody.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:12:37 UTC No. 16562363

Quelle suprise, some vile little effective altruist is the first immigrant shooting of the new trump term.

https://x.com/jessi_cata/status/1882182975804363141

I done warned all y'all but you weren't ready for this conversation...

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:46:39 UTC No. 16562388

I have a career salary goal of 300k and realize that I'll probably peak out as an engineer long before I hit that (wouldn't that be, like, 180k?)
What is a reasonable pivot to make that would enable someone to hit that level of income? I believe it would involve (1) becoming a director somehow, (2) launching a successful business, (3) building up crazy amounts of passive income and investments. There's no way you get close to that just as an experienced engineer, right?

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:53:44 UTC No. 16562390

>>16562388
You really have to consider getting your Doctorate or PhD at this point even for management positions they really want you to jump through that hoop. More variety of experience or self education also aids alot into those future roles but that requires self reflection with your current skill set.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 15:04:36 UTC No. 16562392

>>16562390
Are you sure? The director-level positions I see pop up for engineering seem to emphasize years of leadership and management experience way over education, and some reduce the experience needed for PhD levels but they have their own requirements for MS holders. I dont think any of the managers at my last company had PhDs, but many had MS degrees

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 15:10:20 UTC No. 16562398

>>16562392
Well I did say consider in my neck of the worlds you cant even be a low level manger without a masters degree and most high level directors/VP's and deputies have Doctorate or PhD's but a variety of management experience still rules the roost.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 15:11:43 UTC No. 16562399

>>16562363

As an IOI gold medalist and working as a quant he was guaranteed an O1 VISA.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 15:27:07 UTC No. 16562421

>be me
>research engineer and PhD grad student at a research institute
>the research engineering part is enjoyable and I am learning really advanced HPC programming techniques
>PhD part is a joke, my supervisor is a bit of a wacky guy and I am keeping him content by pursuing his research ideas, I have zero hope of getting a PhD
>lots of free time and access to really advanced HPC systems that I am using to upskill myself in the hopes of interviewing at Meta or NVIDIA
>pay is shit
>no experienced colleagues to learn from
>situation is not very stable and might change for the worse in the coming months
>contract ends in 2 years

>got an offer
>small startup with a product that is promising
>5x more pay
>have to learn a new niche, but it sounds quite in demand and for the long term
>might not have time and access to HPC as I do in my current job to be able to upskill to eventually interview at Meta or NVIDIA
>but the actual job experience is probably better on my CV than my current fake ass job
>highly skilled colleagues that I can learn from

What would you do /sci/? I need advice.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 15:38:05 UTC No. 16562440

>>16562399
Too bad he fell for the rationalism meme, but at least the rest of us can breathe a sigh of relief.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 15:39:05 UTC No. 16562444

>>16562421
I'd go with the second one and learn as much as you can while stacking paper, seems like a no brainer.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 15:47:59 UTC No. 16562453

>>16562440
Nerds tend to have really bad street smarts.
What surprises me in particular about these tranny nerds is how much conscientiousness they have. Like they still work hard and perform well despite having this whole other life where they are living their perverted fetish out in public.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 15:59:10 UTC No. 16562461

>>16562444
>trips of truth
My only worry is that I might have zero time to upskill and maybe if I spend six more months at my job I might ace an interview at NVIDIA directly.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 16:08:22 UTC No. 16562468

>>16562461
Which company has higher upside for its stock grants?

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 16:09:07 UTC No. 16562470

>>16553871
1) Keep your current job, maximize WFH and streamline your workflow to free up as much time as possible.
2) Fill the free time with something interesting to you.
3) Invest as much as you possibly can
4) Maybe have kids I guess idk

DO NOT sabotage your life chasing academic positions or 90+ hour per week grindcore careers. You've already made it, you just don't know it yet.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 16:17:34 UTC No. 16562484

>was a depressed NEET many moons ago thinking about -ACKING myself
>now Anon, MSc, MIET
>it's partly thanks to /sci/ and anime anon
Starting the journey to become CEng.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 16:31:19 UTC No. 16562494

>>16561660
what's not endurable about your job? engineering jobs are pretty comfy, you just sit at the office doing some calculations (or rather, the computer does them for you while you slurp your coffee) then write a technical report and call it a day

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 16:36:59 UTC No. 16562497

>>16562494
I visit the factory and visit contractors.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 16:54:01 UTC No. 16562514

Hi anons, I'm currently in my freshman year studying EE at a shitty community college. I plan on transferring to the university linked to my college once I get my AA since they have a good engineering program and good connections with the defense industry. My end goal is to get an MS or PhD in photonics. I'm concerned that it'll be hard for me to get internships later during my undergrad since I started at a community college, so I've been looking for jobs that would give me relevant experience (I also need a job anyway). Given that, would you say it's better for me to get practical experience as an electrician trainee or doing something in IT, or to get lab experience as a lab assistant/technician?

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 17:02:17 UTC No. 16562522

>>16562497
so you oversee tasks, what's so bad about that? field experience is fun

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 20:58:30 UTC No. 16562843

>>16562484
You're lucky to be high IQ anon, I'm jelly.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 23:57:54 UTC No. 16563005

I feel like there should be two different threads for EU and US

Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 02:01:16 UTC No. 16563113

Anyone trying for a forklift license as a back up against unemployment?

Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 02:17:04 UTC No. 16563127

>>16562514
>MS or PhD in photonics
You need to decide which one you want. If you want a PhD, research experience in a lab is a must. Get one ASAP as PhD programs are very competitive.

Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 02:20:47 UTC No. 16563130

>>16560120
Would you recommend enlisting to see if the military is right for you then transitioning to be an officer if it is?

Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 02:27:11 UTC No. 16563136

>>16548449
>>16551422
I have already invested a lot of preparation into synthetic organic chemistry for my future PhD research as I am still taking classes. Is there still a chance I can land some form of a decent career in that field or should I cut my losses and do something else? I wouldn't mind doing so but it just sucks all that preparation went towards nothing. I really thought synthetic organic chemistry is the most employable field in chemistry.

Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 03:03:30 UTC No. 16563162

What can I expect from my job as a science intern?

Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 05:33:45 UTC No. 16563242

>>16563127
>research experience
>for literal community college students
That's like asking a larva to just grow wings and fly

Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 18:35:29 UTC No. 16563799

>>16561842
My professors never responded.
I asked the library staff: they told me to use the federal government as the name because the departments' articles are posted there.
I also learned that you aren't supposed to capitalize any word other than the first in APA 7.

Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 18:47:44 UTC No. 16563817

>>16563799
Thoughbeitever, there is an exception if the government article says underneath the title that it is from a department.

Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 19:08:48 UTC No. 16563846

>graduate in Finland
>Msc in engineering, CS, stem in general
>you can only hope for 3.5-4k starting
Grim

Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 19:28:37 UTC No. 16563882

Getting a pure math PhD was a huge mistake.

Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 22:34:27 UTC No. 16564207

>19 years old, doing undergrad abroad, about 2 years left until I graduate
>want to go into research, aiming for grad school in another country when I finish here
>depressed as hell, have no friends here, forced to share apartment with pajeets
how feasible is it to just drop everything here and finish my education back home? Should I just man up and power through this shit?

Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 02:42:45 UTC No. 16564453

>>16564207
get a forklift license.
Manual labor will make you appreciate stuff.

Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 14:32:53 UTC No. 16564888

>>16564207

It's most straightforward if you just tough it out. Uni is the easiest place to make friends, find some societies to join and go to the bar when they have socials. As a bonus, being out of the house means having to deal with flatmates less.

Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 16:39:48 UTC No. 16565064

Is engineering boring?
Lay it on me. What is the reality of working in this field? I am imagining Mythbusters best case scenario and Office Space worst case scenario. How disappointed will I be?
Currently teaching high school math and thinking of going back to school for CivE or MechE.

Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 17:10:40 UTC No. 16565130

>Sam Altman, drop-out, is at the head of OpenAI and spearheading a 500b government plan
>Musk is the guy who built spacex and commercialized stalking, an econ major who first tried his hand at physics and switched to another major so he could graduate
>Bill Gates dropped out for Microsoft
>Zuck dropped out for Facebook
>Jobs dropped out and made Apple
>Here I am killing myself over not having a high enough GPA and no published papers (only one workshop talk)

Maybe the way to play this game and show the world you are smart is to actually build the fucking thing on your own without desperately trying to compete in a never ending CS grad arms race, I will never compete against Zhang from Tsinghua on grades or Jessica Wang and her dozens of ICLR/NeurIPS papers she mysteriously got her name on while being dumb as a brick.

I know this worldview is peak survivor bias, but at the same time, I cant help but think that either your parents set you up from the get go and hence you always breathed through academics and resume building AND KNEW IN ADVANCE the importance of research exp and recommendations, or you have to grind and cram way too late to try and keep up, because you had a normal upbringing who has happy enough to see you go to college. And maybe thats why all these giga billionaires who built the coolest shit mankind has ever seen are mostly drop outs. Maybe they knew what they were worth and gave up on the rat race.

Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 17:51:58 UTC No. 16565177

>>16564207
Studying abroad was a nightmare for me as well.
I don't know your situation so it is hard to say how feasible it is to transfer to a uni back home and how wise of a choice that would be.

But 19 is fairly young. You should just move out and find another apartment. Ideally with some non-STEM undergrads, ideally a mixed gender apartment with some girls. Then actually go out and invest some time into making friends.

Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 17:55:00 UTC No. 16565182

>>16565064

Most mechanical engineers do clerical work at some kind of manufacturing plant. Like routine maintenance, ordering parts, coordinating with other plants, and lots of Excel and VBA.
You have to be really good and ambitious to get to a position where designing something is actually part of your day to day.

Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 18:05:03 UTC No. 16565190

>>16565130

I don't think any of those names would be able to be notable researchers in academia if they had pursued that path.

But I do agree with you that, for sure, if you want to be successful, competing in an academic setting is NOT it.

But all of them had something big lined up before they dropped out.

Musk was at the right time with the 2000 dot-com bubble.
Sam managed to jazz Paul Graham into funding his first startup.
Bill was setup by his mom to be in partnership with IBM.
Zuck had Facebook going before dropping out.
Jobs was at the right time with the PC revolution.

IMHO, the best path forward is to go get industry experience at the most cutting-edge industries. Then try to build connections and also try to find a niche that you can compete in and finally take a risk into building your own thing.

Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 18:10:38 UTC No. 16565197

>>16565064
Stay in Education. I wish I had. The kids are terrible but there is some meaning and ethos. "Engineering" is boring beyond belief. Do some calculations and put it into a report nobody wants or maybe reads once 6 months later. Designing stuff might be fun at a startup type company, but at larger companies they have eliminated every possible joy of engineering. CS might be a better choice of you like technology and building stuff.

Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 19:22:58 UTC No. 16565290

>>16565182
Holy cow, is this really true?
I was expecting battle bots or blowing shit up like Jamie from Mythbusters. I guess this is delusional?
Why do they sell these lies about engineering being cool? Like what was with all those cool shows on discovery channel when I grew up in the early aughts trying to get people into it?

My HS teaching job sounds more interesting; we at least launched bottle rockets on the football field.

Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 19:24:20 UTC No. 16565292

>>16565197
You are right, the kids do fucking suck. But at least it's meaningful. I'm also looking at CS, which I can probably swing since my undergrad was math/physics.

All I wanted was to smash tanks into each other like Jamie. Oh well.

Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 19:40:32 UTC No. 16565316

>>16565290
>Why do they sell these lies about engineering being cool?
Cool it with the antisemetic remarks

Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 19:48:21 UTC No. 16565323

>>16565290
>Why do they sell these lies about engineering being cool? Like what was with all those cool shows on discovery channel when I grew up in the early aughts trying to get people into it?

If you want to do that stuff, just buy some tools and start building. Learn as you go.

Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 21:34:10 UTC No. 16565418

>>16565182
Nah, design is boring as fuck. It’s 99% cook book design manual shit. Operations and maintenance is actually fun imo. Stomping around a factory where every day is an episode of “How it’s Made” is way more interesting than sitting in front of AutoCAD every day.

Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 21:38:29 UTC No. 16565425

>>16563130
I mean, you can but you aren’t saving yourself anything. Even if you do a stint as enlisted you still have to go through the junior officer hazing period anyways if you decide to get a commission.

Anonymous at Sun, 26 Jan 2025 21:46:51 UTC No. 16565436

>>16562388
Get your PE and go freelance. The only guys I know who break $250k are either in the C-Suite or they have some sort of side hustle to supplement the day job salary.

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 00:52:15 UTC No. 16565702

>>16562171
i did the same but had to do some easy equivalency to leave legally (parents insisted because kumala made a law that jailed parents of truants). i did it as soon as i was eligible and there was a soft age limit (16) which was ridiculous. does it really get better though, are you making decent money?

>>16562191
i need help

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 07:32:02 UTC No. 16566135

>>16565418
how do i get one of these jobs

>t. bachelor's industrial eng

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 09:13:58 UTC No. 16566173

What do you guys think of Marc Andreesen claiming that the reason there are no "farmboys from Wisconsin" doing tech is because of affirmative action?
To me that sounds like huge cope.
And note that I am not defending affirmative action at all.

But claiming it as the reason why there are no farmboys from rural America in tech is pure cope.

ESPECIALLY because he himself admits that Asians have it the hardest and yet if you look at any random FAANG group it's quite likely for it to be majority Asian.

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 09:17:29 UTC No. 16566177

>>16566173
Wait, hold on, it gets better.
Jews are not being hired enough according to Andreesen.

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 09:31:33 UTC No. 16566185

>>16566173
I listened to it and it sounds like a just so story to me.
My thinking is, if these talented farm boys, Asians and Jews are being excluded from the Ivy League schools and MIT/Stanford (not sure if these latter two even do affirmative action), they would go to second rate schools, and by virtue of their talent, those second rate schools would rise to prominence. But we don't see this happening for some odd reason.

Also it seems like the whole debate is about the mids. Because the geniuses are certainly being fought over by everyone, AA be damned. Else the elite schools would very quickly lose their status. So then one still has to ask where are all the geniuses from rural America?

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 09:33:36 UTC No. 16566186

I managed to transition out of the dead end life of a lab scientist into doing computational stuff. I now work on a uni HPC setting up all the latest AI/ML memes like alphafold and its derivatives and supporting researchers to use them.
My position title is something the uni made up that doesn't exist anywhere else. What are the comparable position titles I should be looking at?
I saw a position description that basically matched mine but the title was "Systems Engineer | Generative AI & Assets" and Systems Engineer usually gives very different results.

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 10:27:45 UTC No. 16566206

>>16566186
Machine learning engineer? Tbh all these job titles are fairly nonspecific you should really go off the job description

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 10:29:15 UTC No. 16566208

>>16566173
He's wrong, the nature of what is selected for by big universities has changed and it's all down to their bottom line.

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 11:30:38 UTC No. 16566234

>>16566135
Are you white?

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 14:06:01 UTC No. 16566304

>>16565702
I make 140k at 30 so in a way I am on time but education was not a limiting factor but giving myself certs, degrees and the likes has made it possible to get the job that I have.

There is a combo between luck, bootstraps and that is the opportunities that present themselves to you are only available if you work towards making them happen. You need to plan out the future 2-4 year increments of what needs to happen to reach X goal. What are the requirements, what is entry, mid level, engineering, manager, project manager ect. How will the steps I make now affect my goal for either one of these situations I want to be in. If you work towards it in a holistic approach of breaking it down into a problem that needs to be solved then you will eventually find those opportunities to seize them. Be aware of your insecurities, failures and successes. Then improve upon it step by step. Losers sit at home, work at walmart and complain about there shit life because they cannot imagine a future.

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 15:03:04 UTC No. 16566353

>>16566304
thanks for the advice anon. i am feeling rather hopeless myself, i'll work on changing that.

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 15:44:39 UTC No. 16566378

>>16566353
Where all gonna make it anon :3

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 16:19:58 UTC No. 16566394

>>16566135
Defense contractor

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 16:21:48 UTC No. 16566395

>>16565292
Online Master in CS is probably your best bet. Might or might not work in current job market.

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 16:38:04 UTC No. 16566405

>>16561529
>Anyone here who got a STEM PhD and doesnt regret it?
Sure. The ride was rough at times but in the end it was worth it.

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 16:40:13 UTC No. 16566406

>>16566304
>Losers sit at home, work at walmart and complain about there shit life because they cannot imagine a future.
Literally me

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 18:30:28 UTC No. 16566504

did anyone here get forced into test?

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 18:47:30 UTC No. 16566510

>>16562032
Same but 36

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 19:01:02 UTC No. 16566519

How exactly do you become a good engineer/scientists? What sort of secret sauce do the top 1% in a field have, besides talent, that makes them elite?
I sometimes see videos on great feats of engineering, like the Three Gorges Dam, the Voyager spacecraft, G-Cans, the transistor etc. It makes me feel like a dumbfuck and a fraud.
I can't even remember what I've learned last semester. As soon as a semester ends, I forget what I studied. It makes me feel dumb, depressed and demoralised for wasting so much of my parents's money on a degree that might ultimately be useless for someone as stupid as me.

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:58:14 UTC No. 16566652

>>16566504
A few times yes, why? One time it was in defence, another time it was when I got a job at a defence supplier.

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:55:30 UTC No. 16566764

>>16566652
I was forced into it and now I'm not doing anything related to what I've studied.
Jobs that have something to do with what I studied also reject me.

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 22:14:14 UTC No. 16566810

>>16566519
Environment

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 22:29:25 UTC No. 16566825

>>16566395
GeorgiaTech has an extremely affordable Online Master's btw.

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 22:46:08 UTC No. 16566850

>>16566825
university of the people is a completely free California university.

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 22:54:57 UTC No. 16566859

Would you commute two hours (one way) for two days a week, for a 14h/week student job at a reputable and industry-adjacent and public-private science lab so you can break into a certain industry?

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 23:15:18 UTC No. 16566878

>>16566859
yes I'd do that

Anonymous at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 23:19:11 UTC No. 16566882

>>16566859
Forgot to say that it would be by train.

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 00:57:50 UTC No. 16566976

>>16566882
Student job? Hell yes. The XP is worth its weight in gold.

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 07:45:23 UTC No. 16567226

>>16566859
I would kill someone with my bare hands to break into a certain industry.

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 07:50:39 UTC No. 16567229

>>16566859
Any sane person would take that offer. You are spoiled rich and entitled if you think that's a bad deal.

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 11:59:05 UTC No. 16567337

>>16562843
I don't feel high IQ. I'm retarded and have ADHD, recently got medicated. Did all of school without the meds...

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 12:23:23 UTC No. 16567350

>>16566173
1. no one is owed a scolarship at any institution
2. asians have it the easiest ACADEMICALLY, they are setup in a an environment where they are forced to study and overachieve, asian families are also more likely to spend exhorbitant amounts to get their kids in the best schools, a lot of Asians are simply seen as resumemaxxer and not people that are actually performers, US universities recognize that most of the time, people who are most likely influence the world (because these unis are designed to accept such students) arent those that stack up inflated GPAs, SAT or GRE scores and have a bunch of bs "leaderships" and "extracurricular" experiences. Its kids who are focused, have an idea in mind, and know how to get what they want AND also happen to be extremely gifted scientifically / mathematically (and sometimes that isnt even necessary, e.g. all those olympiad winners at MIT that end up doing just above average in math/physics classes but are stellar at their engineering disciplines).

There is more to the story of a leader than just a kid bruteforcing every single math problems in the textbook his parents forced him to study from a young age.

Asians feel cheated because they think US elite institutions work like Asian elite institutions. But there is no confucianism in America, the value of someone isnt determined solely by how good they are at griding the system and climbing the hierarchy, otherwise Elon Musk would simply a random econ major and would have never ever been trusted with rockets, Altman, Gates and Zuck would be failures who dropped out, and no one would take a chance on them. American success philosophy goes beyond that and looks at the individual: are they driven, where do they come from and what have they achieved, are they curious, do they have more in life than just academics, what are there hobbies, what can they build, how good are they at talking to people, how good is their writing. All of that matters, it shapes individuals

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 12:48:25 UTC No. 16567378

>>16567350
That's cool but you are delusional if you believe there are no Gates, Zuck,.. etc of Asia.

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 13:30:48 UTC No. 16567415

>>16567378
there are, and most of the time, they arent your average tsinghua 4.0 50 papers published in undergrad kind of student that we see flocking to the united states whenever they get the chance to go to MIT/Stanford/Berkeley.
Founding a startup is a last resort for many, either because they simply cant find something they like, or because they failed somewhere along the line and had to drop out or reorient.

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 16:53:13 UTC No. 16567577

>>16566185
>So then one still has to ask where are all the geniuses from rural America?
There are none because white people are racially inferior. That is the entire reason why we need infinite Indian immigration to compete with illiterate poverty stricken rice farmers in China. Indians are widely known as the master race. In fact technology is completely impossible without the assistance of Indians, who are also commonly referred to as "the masters of reality."

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 17:00:10 UTC No. 16567586

>>16567350
You still have to be intelligent to "resumemaxx" as you call it.
I'd love to see "le strict Asian parent" coach up some retarded American wigger to resumemaxx and get "inflated SAT/GRE" scores.
>But American society works differently we have le Faustian spark
This is literal we wuz kangz tier cope.
It's honestly sad how far white people have fallen. They mass adopted black culture and now they've basically ghettoized themselves because the flashing electronic screen convinced them that being a retarded bass-boosted nog was cool.

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 17:04:26 UTC No. 16567590

>>16567350
Jews own, run and manage colleges from the top down. There communist long march through the institutions took them 30 years to overthrow a functioning system to the point that people argue who college was for, what it was supposed to do and how it was supposed to benefit society. Same is said for K-12

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 17:07:10 UTC No. 16567594

>>16567590
I thought long time horizons were supposed to be a whiteoid specialty? How could you get so brutally outmaneuvered?

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 17:08:21 UTC No. 16567596

>>16557960
You're better off appplying as a second degree seeking student because a masters in engineering does not provide you with an engineering license since it does not ABET credentiated yah

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 17:09:44 UTC No. 16567600

>>16567594
They bought out all of the secret societies, overthrew any and all monarch's, killed whole families of rebels during there bloody marchs across europe and black mailed the rest that are not to be trusted like the gangs, mafia's, small town hero's. Traitors caused this from long ago.

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 17:12:54 UTC No. 16567605

>>16567600
Damn I guess violently deposing your nobility (the people who derived their power from an ethnic-basis) and handing control of your society over to the "merchant class" wasn't the best idea.

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 20:16:18 UTC No. 16567836

How do I stop being bitter and depressed?

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 20:21:24 UTC No. 16567844

Is higher education in Sweden superior to the USA?

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 20:35:53 UTC No. 16567859

>>16567844
If by higher education you just mean the education part and not research academia then it's by far superior. It's free and students get a government stipend regardless of income.

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 20:38:49 UTC No. 16567863

My professional network is basically a list of people I want to hurt or kill. Is this normal?

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 20:41:18 UTC No. 16567873

Which physics specializations will still be in demand for the next decade or so? Mostly thinking about automation by machine learning and loss of funding (e.g. quantum computing) displacing workers.

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 21:01:51 UTC No. 16567909

>>16567586
Am I saying Asians are dumb? No.
But resumemaxxing is very real. Like no Jessica, you didnt get that 2nd year FAANG internship because youre that smart, you worked your ass off since middle school to get there, and thats commendable, but not everyone is willing to sacrifice their youth for work, and at the end of the day, youre still job hopping at companies built by white drop outs who put in a 10th of the effort you poured into this 2 pages long resume.

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 21:30:20 UTC No. 16567959

>>16567844
of course not, but if you're middle class, it's better to be swedish than american

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 21:36:54 UTC No. 16567968

>>16567909
white's had a headstart and have been rich since 1900 so there's naturally going to be more white middle aged companies than nonwhite.
there's also a trend towards consolidation and monopolization so there's fewer and bigger companies rather than many small ones these days. look at FAANG, there's no competitor to them, by integrating yourself into them instead of competing against them you'll do better instead of taking a risk to start your own company.
entrepreneurship arises from a state of laziness and a lack of necessity, it's the same reason why the nordics always win eSports tournaments. Nordics don't need to work to make money so playing games is ok. An indian or Chinese guy will not have that luxury, he has to work so he's not going to become a pro gamer. white's start more companies because they don't need to work to pay the bills, since they're already rich.
in the future we might see more asian companies, but right now Asians are optimizing to solidly enter the upper middle class and will make a push for the upper class next generation.

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 21:47:00 UTC No. 16567981

>>16567873
Solid state in general and semiconductors in particular. Of course, were someone to discover a room temperature superconductor, we would get a new gold rush, just like back in 1987.

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 21:54:41 UTC No. 16567991

>>16567873
Semiconductors
Materials science
Photonics and anything laser
Metrology
Meteology

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 22:32:50 UTC No. 16568047

>>16567863
Very normal if you are a sensitive genius

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 22:43:34 UTC No. 16568055

>>16567981
>>16567991
Why no computational or biocomplexity?

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 22:56:12 UTC No. 16568067

>>16568055
Currnetly there is a lot of hype but little in the way of money generating business. Sure, the fields can be very interesting and any niche can employ a handful of the very best people with the best personal connections, but are you certain you are there? Solid state and semiconducting physics has been challenged for over 50 years but still been rock solid. It will require something dramatic to change that, such as a room temperature superconductor - in which case it is still solid state physics.

Other fields such as genetics has had springs followed by disapppointments and long winters, then repeating the cycle. Yes, it might get a breakthrough but the risk is huge.

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 00:52:15 UTC No. 16568198

>>16567844
Higher education in nordic countries is a joke since they don't filter for IQ.

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 00:55:29 UTC No. 16568205

>>16567968
> it's the same reason why the nordics always win eSports tournaments. Nordics don't need to work to make money so playing games is ok
Nordic countries suck at esports though, it's mostly asians.

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 01:28:10 UTC No. 16568250

>>16562514
Update on this, no luck with electrician trainee jobs so far (didn't expect much anyway) but I did get an offer at LabCorp for a lab assistant job. It's a medical lab and I'd be doing basic shit like cleaning glassware so not much to do with EE/photonics and no research experience. Probably the best I could hope for other than a work-study job though. The pay is average for lab assistants in my area. Would working at a medical lab still count as lab experience for engineering internships? Do you guys think I should take it or keep looking?

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 01:34:16 UTC No. 16568256

>>16568205
That's what he meant. Nordic Asians.
The ethnic conception of the state is for non-whites only.

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 06:14:56 UTC No. 16568448

>>16548306
The CPR guide is wrong. Call 911 first. Then steal the person's wallet/purse - life saving costs money and I aint doing it for free. Then stand back and give directions and let someone do the hard work. Ask me how I know.

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 06:16:46 UTC No. 16568450

>>16548371
>I feel so underprepared for everything.
Do not worry. Trust me. I have worked with many PhDs. They are totally incompetent and unproductive. You will fit right in and get paid well.

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:13:03 UTC No. 16568551

I turned down 3 PhD opportunities as PhD students are like slaves and academia seems awful.

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:30:12 UTC No. 16568557

>>16568551
WHATTT you dont want to turn over 5-10 years of your life to be a slave to someone else's scientific career?

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 10:48:34 UTC No. 16568587

>>16568551
I turned down 1 about two years ago and I still regret it because now I'm a coder

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 10:55:31 UTC No. 16568593

What's the best way to use my EE degree to commit crimes and make some money alongside neetbucks?

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 11:05:22 UTC No. 16568598

>>16568593
Make drones for a MIC its money and future warfare.

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 11:19:57 UTC No. 16568603

>>16568598
That's too complex. Drones for drug dealers isn't a real thing either since everyone just uses parcels. Cannabis growing operations are probably the best bet since they're power & heat intensive

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 11:25:15 UTC No. 16568606

>>16568603
Cannabis is dirt cheap no clue what shit your huffing but its easier to grow weed then it is tobacco, alchol is easier but no one really buys weed in bulk. Its almost free now that its legal in alot of areas.

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 11:27:43 UTC No. 16568610

>>16568606
If I was American I could just get a job mate

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 13:54:14 UTC No. 16568697

>>16568587
Just apply to one if you actually want to do it. The fact you have some real world experience will be beneficial.

🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 14:28:05 UTC No. 16568727

>>16568697
So I study at an Ivie and I just wrote my entire physics thesis using AI. Break it down to me. How fucked am I?

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 16:56:12 UTC No. 16568852

I resent everyone still in academia

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 17:05:10 UTC No. 16568862

>>16566850
More like Israeli. It is extremely jeeted. Would not recommend.

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 20:00:15 UTC No. 16569078

>>16568852
Just why? I checked out people I know from my time as a PhD student. Quite a few have professorships but it was a long slog for poor pay and a tiny bit of prestige. Was it worth it for them? I wonder.

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Jan 2025 22:23:28 UTC No. 16569456

>>16568862
it's good for an MBA if you're white and yet still somehow poor in a poor country which shouldn't be possible

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 09:18:41 UTC No. 16570045

https://sfist.com/2025/01/29/suspect-and-possible-cult-member-makes-court-appearance-in-vallejo-killing-as-further-links-revealed-to-other-murders/

Yet another black mark against so called "effective altruists". If you hear some freak babbling about rokos basilisk or earning to give straight up jap slap them

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 11:35:42 UTC No. 16570129

>>16570045
If effective altruism is out what's the next best way to network?

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 13:10:35 UTC No. 16570171

>>16570129
Running clubs. What kind of cuddle puddle polyamourist networking were you doing anyway?

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 15:00:45 UTC No. 16570279

IT guy looking to move to Geospatial data analyst job in the next few years. I know I should learn SQL and Python, where else should I begin?

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 17:08:57 UTC No. 16570394

>>16569456
Aren't MBAs basically a fake degree that is based entirely on prestige?

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 19:43:14 UTC No. 16570551

I'm turning 30 soon and I've barely worked a single year.
My consulting company just kept me sitting on the bench and kept paying me 70k a year old since graduation.

I don't have much real work experience but people think I do.

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 20:16:59 UTC No. 16570585

>>16570551
That's honestly pretty cool, make try working another job on top

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 21:24:00 UTC No. 16570648

>>16570551
And youre still not overmployed. Anon...

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 21:26:45 UTC No. 16570654

>>16570585
I did until my contract changed to say "you have to follow EU rules and can't overemploy without employer permission".
I'm wasting away making money doing nothing except hanging out with my family and doing boss sponsored Microsoft certifications. Everyone around me thinks I'm a loser because I freeload and don't secretly make money through personal projects.

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 21:28:44 UTC No. 16570658

>>16568551
Go into any top uni, check the labs, and tell me if you see any American passport holders among the PhD candidates.

A PhD is just a way to get into the US legally, at least thats all it was for me. Havinh berkeley on my resume looks good and all but realistically speaking it did not provide me much in terms of knowledge or competence, it just made it easy for me to rack in internships and papers to either get O1, and if I still couldnt manage to get O1 I would have just used my OPT to stay longer.

But kids today are smarted than me, they make a bullshit AI wrapper startup and go to YC to get their O1 in a little under 6 months which is amazingly fast compared to my 4 years of slavery.

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Jan 2025 22:36:04 UTC No. 16570737

>>16570658
Just did my entire physics thesis using AI. I'm a visa jeet with a full-ride scholarship in an ivy

Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 00:39:35 UTC No. 16570836

it won't be worth it to do a PhD for a decade or more.
a PhD won't be able to boost my career because my career is moving forward without it and the opportunity cost is too high.
I really wanted a PhD...

Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 04:20:05 UTC No. 16570963

Make a jeet containment thread already

Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 07:38:16 UTC No. 16571091

>>16570836
Why on earth did you want some credential that's useless to you?

Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 10:56:02 UTC No. 16571178

Howdy fellas. Can a physics bachelor's transition into and get a job as a Data Scientist without further formal education (self taught)?

Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 12:17:47 UTC No. 16571224

>>16571091
I wanted to be really educated and stand at the Pinnacle of science.
But it doesn't financially make sense for me anymore. I just job hopped for a higher salary.

Anonymous at Fri, 31 Jan 2025 20:37:51 UTC No. 16571605

I might have gotten luck as one of the places I applied to needs a ME quick, so they reached out to me. I'll be touring their place in the next few days. Only thing is I'll have to rent as its a few hours drive away. I'm a recent grad so this is good news assuming it goes well...