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Anonymous No. 16555556 Report

If white surfaces reflect all light they receive, why aren't all white surfaces mirrors?

Anonymous No. 16555563 Report

>>16555556
High albedo does not imply perfect scattering. White surfaces can be very rough and reflect light in all directions. Mirrors are smooth, so the scattering is nice and regular. The way mirrors are made is by covering a thin coat of silver with glass. Molten metals are very smooth, obviously.

Anonymous No. 16555568 Report

>>16555563
I rubbed the wal of my room with sandpaper and it didn't become a mirror

Anonymous No. 16555574 Report

>>16555568
Cool. So it's still not smooth enough. At least not as smooth as your brain.

Anonymous No. 16555577 Report

>>16555555

Anonymous No. 16555599 Report

>>16555574
you are a dumbass. no matter how smooth you make chalk, it will never become a mirror.

Anonymous No. 16555613 Report

>>16555599
i could probably see my reflection in your brain though

Anonymous No. 16555614 Report

>>16555599
Yeah, because it's made of a material that is extremely hard to smooth out. It's brittle. Metal can be molten and it naturally gets smoothed by gravity. You can jerk off a piece of chalk with sandpaper all you want, but it's not going to refine all those microscopic cavities that scatter light in random directions.

Anonymous No. 16555624 Report

>>16555614
>You can jerk off a piece of chalk with sandpaper all you want
which is weird since it's basically metal with some carbon and oxygen.

Anonymous No. 16555631 Report

>>16555624
>since it's basically metal with some carbon and oxygen.
>t. I never passed high school chemsitry

Anonymous No. 16555632 Report

>>16555563
also, even if white surfaces can't show my face because the light travels in different directions, it should at least change color to the color of my face.
the fact that it keeps being white when you put something of another color next to it proves that white isn't unpolished mirror

Anonymous No. 16555635 Report

>>16555632
>it should at least change color to the color of my face
Does your face glow? Do you look at chalk in complete darkness? Hello? CIA niggers?

Anonymous No. 16555636 Report

>>16555635
according to you, my face is reflecting light from the sun or whatever. get your own facts straight

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Anonymous No. 16555638 Report

>>16555631
calcium is literal metal anon. chalk is made out of it.

Anonymous No. 16555644 Report

>>16555638
No shit. Go read about chemical bonds and how they affect the physical structure of materials. Ionic vs covalent bonds. You know, high school chemistry curriculum.

Anonymous No. 16555649 Report

>>16555644
>autism overload
it was a joke you nerd

Anonymous No. 16555672 Report

>>16555649
>I was merely pretending to be retarded it was just a prank bro

Anonymous No. 16555835 Report

>>16555672
why are you so angry?

Anonymous No. 16556096 Report

bump

Anonymous No. 16557680 Report

>>16555644
metals have neither ionic nor covalent bonds

Anonymous No. 16560095 Report

>>16555556
mirror surfaces need to be specular and have lustre.

Anonymous No. 16560166 Report

>>16555556
White surfaces diffuse light by absorbing and re-emitting photons but does so evenly across all visible wavelengths, reflective surfaces like mirrors and metals have an electron shield that bounces photons along the normal of the surface causing them to have that clear reflection in the unaltered color as the inbound light.

Any sufficiently smooth surface will have a dull mirror like reflection as the return vector is similar but you can never polish a surface that absorbs light such that it has a clear mirror like reflection from any angle. You can get a very mirror like reflection at glancing angles due to the fresnel effect tho.

Anonymous No. 16560170 Report

>>16555556
Fail.
>>16555555

Anonymous No. 16560178 Report

I guess.

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Anonymous No. 16560529 Report

>>16555556

Anonymous No. 16560545 Report

>>16557680
Metals form ionic and covalent bonds with nonmetals, as is the case in chalk. They typically form metallic bonds with metals, but even that isn't a rule, gallium forms covalent bonds with metals.

The other Anon is right, you retards need to pick up a high school chemistry textbook.

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Anonymous No. 16560576 Report

>>16557680
Ionic compounds are bonds combining metals + non-metals..

Covalent-molecules are bonds combining non-metals + non-metals.

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Anonymous No. 16560590 Report

>>16555599

Anonymous No. 16560602 Report

>>16560576
Gross, primary school tier oversimplification. At least read up on electronegativity, this is also an oversimplification but worthy of at least high school.

Anonymous No. 16560609 Report

>>16560602
Two types of bonds, both specifically dependent on what is being bonded..

>Electronegativity
As long as the shared valency orbital totals a stable 8 electrons, who gives a fuck.

Why are you big noting yourself, is your dick small?

Anonymous No. 16560715 Report

>>16560166
This. Fully reflective surfaces like polished metals have electromagnetic properties which repeal photons at the very top layer of atoms before they can enter the material at all.

Dielectric non conductive surfaces no matter how polished still have the photons travel into the top layers of the material get absorbed there and is scattered and remitted internally til it eventually find it's way out traveling in some direction other than that which it entered according to the sort of probability distribution >>16560529 shows. That's why you can't polish a white surface into a perfect mirror, if something appears white its not reflecting light; it's scattering light.

Anonymous No. 16560720 Report

>>16555632
>>16555636
White things do exactly that. Stand next to a white wall under a sunny window and the light from your shirt will make the wall reflect that color.

Anonymous No. 16560741 Report

>>16555568
Skill issue.

Anonymous No. 16561059 Report

>>16560609
>As long as the shared valency orbital totals a stable 8 electrons, who gives a fuck.
The octet rule is also a simplified rule of a thumb. Boron and aluminium for example don't give a shit.

AlCl3 doesn't have an octet, if you followed
>muh octet
and
>muh ionic if metal and nonmetal
You'd come to the wrong conclusion that it must be an ionic compound where Al gives out one of its 3 valence electrons to each Cl. On the other hand, If you bothered to check the electronegativity difference (1,6, ionic bonds are typically 1,7 at the very least) and knew that aluminium is in the highly electron deficient group 3, you'd probably figure out that it has to have covalent bonds with only 6 valence electrons in Al.

I recommend trying to understand the underlying fundamental concepts instead of relying on simplifications.

>Why are you big noting yourself, is your dick small?
Ask your mom.

Anonymous No. 16561067 Report

>>16560590
is that a mirror to you?

Anonymous No. 16561099 Report

>>16561059
>The octet rule is also a simp....
have you tried telling someone who gives a shit?
>AlCl3 doesn't have an octet, if you followed...
have considered telling someone who gives a shit?
>You'd come to the wrong conclusion that it must be an....
have thought about telling someone who gives a shit?
>On the other hand, If you bothered to check the electronegativity difference....
wait, are you still talking?
>Ask your mom.
She said you're a boring attention seeking whore with no friends..

Anonymous No. 16561107 Report

>>16561067
>nooooo not like this!

Anonymous No. 16561108 Report

>>16561107
I repeat. Is that a mirror to you? I can clearly see the pattern on the marble.

Anonymous No. 16561125 Report

>>16561108
the surface is a mirror (and some of the color change affect the color of the mirror), and some of the subsurface is also being reflected, and this is why polishing a human wouldn't be as reflective as a metal either

Anonymous No. 16561129 Report

>>16561125
Can you “see” a mirror or do you just see your reflection? Because I can clearly see the pattern on the marble, so it’s clearly absorbing some of the light that falls on it.

Anonymous No. 16561148 Report

>>16561129
that's cool man

Anonymous No. 16561172 Report

>>16561099
>make gross, factually incorrect oversimplifications
>get corrected
>get mad
All these flavors and you choose to be salty.
>She said you're a boring attention seeking whore with no friends..
And yet she still lets me hit it every weekend.

Anonymous No. 16561199 Report

>>16561172
whu? is this that same guy?
wtf are you talking about?
>make gross, factually incorrect oversimplifications
>get corrected
>get mad
whu? are we supposed to be talking about some discussion topic?
whu?
wtf are we talking about?
sorry, I said something quickly to some anon; then told some other dickhead I wasn't interested in the thread..
Have you been carrying out some kind of back/forth topic discussion?

lmao

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Anonymous No. 16561208 Report

How do bats use sound to navigate in the darkness? We'll get to that in a second, but what's even more important, why can't I just hit everything in front of me with my eyes closed and act like I am blind? Why am I not allowed to do this? What if I told them that I was preparing myself to become blind? Would that be a good enough reason to do this? I don't have ears good enough to capture vibrations that bounce off of walls, that's not even my fault.

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Anonymous No. 16561245 Report

>>16555556
Diffuse reflection. Exact mechanism varies with material, but in something like chalk the diffuse nature of reflection is largely due to subsurface scattering. Chalk is made of tiny transparent crystals calcite; a ray of light can enter the surface of chalk, be reflected by numerous crystal facets, and then exit the surface at a quasirandom angle

Anonymous No. 16561290 Report

>>16555556
metallic lustre and specular

Anonymous No. 16561450 Report

Why does the mirror not have middles you can see?

Anonymous No. 16561484 Report

White surfaces aren’t like mirrorsS because they don’t bounce light back at you all neat. They kind of spread it around everywhere, like when you spill your cereal and it goes everywhere :3. Mirrors reflect light in a way that makes your reflection look clear, but white surfaces just send it all over the place like they can’t focus, kind of like how cats always knock things off tables for no reason