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black holes are explained in a braindead manner at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 12:04:34 UTC No. 16583549
are there any other explanations by people for "black hole" than hurr it sucks in even light itself it's gravity is so large that nothing can escape hurr event horizon pulls structure of all matter into small pieces hurr
What about what the matter turns into. Or what goes "into" the hole? It must be particles. Particles only have mass at rest, no? And photons for example are never at rest and their lifetime is "infinite". Except that, blackholes mass => gravitational pull must be made from particles, so they must be at rest. And the only way they are at rest is if time there doesn't pass. Time holes. Blackholes are the "ends of time". I'm thinking particles "crytallize" into one mass at rest which experiences no time and is therefor basically the end in all senses of the word without reaching for outside of the universe stuff.
i got this thought when i saw the einstein intertia thing and thought that if the space station is falling in a straight line (from its point of reference) then the planets are "falling" around celestial bodies and so on. but also the other way. electrons are falling around the nucleus of the atom.
if you throw something into a hole the thing only experiences the force of it's fall once it reaches the bottom of the hole.
i've never heard of these takes and source is literally me last night. why have i never heard anything else except the common explanations about black holes and spacetime?
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 14:50:29 UTC No. 16583680
>>16583549
You sound like you are about 15 years old. I don't mean that as an insult necessarily, I'm just stating something that is probably true.
Instead of sitting around feeling smug about yourself and thinking about pseudo-physics, why don't you actually open a textbook and try to learn the theory? Then you would have something tangible to think about.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 19:36:31 UTC No. 16583901
>>16583549
There are a bunch of basic misunderstandings of physical theory in your post. As a very simple example electrons dont behave in any way similar to objects in orbit, that whole idea arises only because of the simplistic way electrons are taught in high school science
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 20:43:38 UTC No. 16583976
>>16583680
Real physics class be like...
...okay kids so today we take a look at general relativity hmkay you know a little story about Einstein hmkay anyway now there's A moving relative to B in empty space and now we can describe that by
>le wild mathematical equations fnirfgh784jfd3480#@%$#$#
I see no one has any questions so you follow hmkay so we continue with
>even more le wild mathematical equations dsjfh8934yr8f943#@R%#$d
So there are some exercises for you to do at home hmkay and some chapters to read that say a little bit about the symbols in those equations hmkay we'll discuss those in small groups a few days from now so you can ask quetions later hmkay.
>Meanwhile me: what the fuck am I even reading.
Physics is like practicing Kanji when all you wanted to do was dream about visiting Japan and slurping ramen before going hentai on picrel.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 20:57:41 UTC No. 16583982
>>16583976
>Physics is like practicing Kanji when all you wanted to do was dream about visiting Japan and slurping ramen before going hentai on picrel.
Great analogy. And OP is doing the equivalent of dropping token words like 'kawaii' in their english speech and then thinking they are fluent in Japanese. Learn the damn language.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 22:21:07 UTC No. 16584041
I'm not a physicist but I've always understood black holes as these artifacts on the fabric of spacetime. It's like an almost eternal remnant of a mass that exceeded some critical density.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Feb 2025 23:40:34 UTC No. 16584116
>>16583549
It's basically a lagged out explosion. They aren't infinite, they just won't resolve until most of the universe is dead and still. Right before you hit the event horizon, you'll see the universe tick away at an insane speed. I imagine once you're inside, you're gonna be hit with a seemingly infinite amount of energy from future falling shit all at once.
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Feb 2025 00:58:15 UTC No. 16584171
>>16583549
When you properly learn general relativity, gravity doesn't actually suck or pull on particles or waves at all. It's not even really a "force" in the truest sense of the word. It just warps spacetime. Light always moves in straight lines relative to the space around it; we call these space-relative straight lines "geodesics". When you bend the space containing a geodesic, you end up with a line that is globally curvy, even if it looks straight from the light's perspective. When the line gets curved into the black hole, it looks like the light is getting "sucked in". Light can't escape the black hole because all the geodesics that start inside the black hole and travel outside said black hole would necessarily have to travel faster than the speed of light somewhere.