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Anonymous No. 16584877

>pseuds on suicide watch

Anonymous No. 16584882

Daily reminder that RFK learned all his medical knowledge on the job. He is an ambulance chaser. When he isn't doing slip and fall cases.

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Anonymous No. 16584885

>>16584882
Where did the MDs that helped write his books learn their stuff?
I'll repeat with your post as direct evidence to be submitted.
>PSEUDS ON SUICIDE WATCH

Anonymous No. 16585027

They eventually have to admit Apigenic Health works because they get to remove all that disability that's now bloat.

Anonymous No. 16585129

Mercury makes up about 0.005% of a thimerosal-stabilized vaccine by weight. The thimerosal in a standard vaccine has the about same amount of elemental mercury that you'd find 3 ounces of tuna. T

Also, since 2001, thimerosal free versions of basically all major vaccines have been available. So where are all the autistic kids born after 2010 coming from, guys?

Anonymous No. 16585152

>>16585129
Tuna isn't injected directly into the blood stream of children--so your analogy is retarded.

What % of thimerosal free vaccines are the overall average?

It's "almost" like you're a psued making psued arguments...

Anonymous No. 16585361

I think I was reading about how they use aresenic compounds to make antibiotics.
sounded kinda weird desu

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Anonymous No. 16585365

>>16585027
>implying RFK Jr. wasn't installed to increase disability

Anonymous No. 16585377

>>16584877
He wants to release the fortified apigenin and gut gibs over it.

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Anonymous No. 16585402

>>16585152
>What % of thimerosal free vaccines are the overall average?

Anonymous No. 16585405

>>16584882
He wouldn't have been picked unless he was the best man for the job. Cry more, liberal.

Anonymous No. 16585456

>>16584882
You don't have any credibility at all, you silly demons.

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Anonymous No. 16585459

>>16585129
Nice try, but you will still get hanged.

Anonymous No. 16585461

>>16585402
>Except for the flu and select other vaccinees not mentioned
>Six isn't a child
Ok Don Lemon, thanks for not only not answering the question but for actually making yourself look even dumber in the process.

bodhi No. 16585520

>>16584882
cope and seethe troon, chuds won

Anonymous No. 16585521

>>16585405
>He wouldn't have been picked unless he was the best man for the job.
that job? killing public health.

>>16585459
you at least need to come up with some criteria like the vaccine wizard only gets hung if they float or something, at least it would save the /fit/ ones.

Anonymous No. 16585528

>>16585129
Surely you can also admit the American vaccination schedule makes little sense, and there are accepted non zero risks which are imposed for really no sensible reasons at all. Why for one is it necessary to vaccinate newborns for Hep B? Is there an epidemic of infants slipping on banana peels and accidentally falling on Hep B infected needles? Do you seriously think it's a good idea to inject any amount of aluminum into a day old newborn?

Anonymous No. 16585531

>>16585528
Nobody has been seriously worried about aluminum toxicology since the 2000s.

Anonymous No. 16585534

>>16585531
I suppose now that you put it that way, yes it is perfectly fine to unnecessarily inject aluminum into newborns blood for a medically completely unnecessary procedure.

Anonymous No. 16585542

>>16585534
I'm I psychically attracting aluminium atoms to go into your bloodstream.

Anonymous No. 16585734

my son had a short seizure + fever last night after getting MMR last week. yeah thats real fucking healthy.
vaccines are so fucking gay. thankfully they made it illegal to send your kid to school without them*

*unless you are an asylum seeker, then you dont have to get them to attend public school :-)

Anonymous No. 16586128

>>16585528
Hep B can be spread vertically at birth and it costs less to do a full Hep B workup on every mother compared to vaccination

Anonymous No. 16586134

>>16585734
>fever and seizure a week after the vaccine
Did your child live in a hermetically sealed bubble for the past week for you to confirm that it was the vaccine and not, you know, existing in a world of sick people? Did you give your baby Tylenol or just let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps like a REAL American to reach out and grab that Tylenol before the fever got so bad that he had a febrile seizure (basically a nothingburger in terms of disease physiology)

We literally know the actual side effects of MMR, and if he got a mystery fever without any swelling or the characteristic rash of the vaccine it probably wasn't the vaccine

Anonymous No. 16586137

>>16586128
*It costs more to do a full workup

Anonymous No. 16586152

>>16586128
>>16586137
You can admit that's a bit of a bullshit reason though, right? The cost of giving birth in the first place is so obscene you could get a 5 course meal prepared by a Michelin star chef every night in the maternity ward and not notice it on the bill. A thorough enough workup is a couple hundred bucks and should be done anyway.

Anonymous No. 16586162

>>16586152
Reducing the overall price of American healthcare does not change that the workup will always be more expensive than the vaccination, not to mention more invasive (e.g. requiring blood tests, ultrasound, and so on)

Have you SEEN the neonatal sepsis workup? That shit is miserable for the poor baby, primary prevention is ALWAYS a better option than trying to catch something once it's already there

Anonymous No. 16586166

>>16586162
I would argue that you should be testing the mother for Hep B as the baby probably isn't finding dirty needles in their mother's uterus. I would also argue that drawing blood is less invasive than injecting a vaccine, as vaccines, when properly, functioning provoke a strong immune response while drawing blood just... removes a tiny amount of blood.

Anonymous No. 16586168

>>16586166
>HepB is only from dirty needles
Do... do you think needles get Hep B from rolling around on a San Francisco sidewalk?

Anonymous No. 16586173

>>16586168
They really need to let you guys sleep more. If the baby is going to experience the vertical transmission of Hep B, the mother must have had it. If that is the case, then screening the mother will inform you as to whether or not it is possible for vertical transmission to occur in the child. The only other possible source is the child's father, but the point remains that there are at most 2 vectors by which Hep B could infect an infant and both are readily testable. Unless your contention is that a homeless SF man crawled into the mother's uterus and started injecting the baby with heroin.

Anonymous No. 16586177

>>16586173
Yeah but again
Testing is more expensive and more work for basically zero positive benefit

You have no clue how much pontification goes into ordering simple blood tests in the hospital (I'm talking CBC, chem10, hell even H&Hs) or IV fluids. Everything that's done unnecessarily for your silly reservations is slowing down care for everyone else

Anonymous No. 16586186

>>16586177
Hence why it's a bullshit reason, you faggots are being lazy and passing it off as a necessity. Considering how lucrative medical care is in the US, appealing to scarcity ought to utterly embarrass you. If it's too much trouble for you to do something internally then refer them to a third-party testing facility like LabCorp and have them send the results back, you braindead fucking nigger. I get that it's easy to shove a bunch of needles in an infant, but vaccines aren't literally zero risk and if you're doing it for nothing other than expedience you're flagrantly violating the Hippocratic oath.

Anonymous No. 16586203

>>16586186
>lazy
I worked 70 hours this week anon

Vaccines are proven to have benefits that far outweigh any possible risk. Your health is not worth more than anybody else's, we live in a society of equals. If you want to go to a concierge clinic or shell out for a concierge hospital admission (yes those exist) you can order whatever you want, but insurance won't pay for it for a reason

Anonymous No. 16586221

>>16586203
To step back from the shitposting, I'm referring to the medical system in general rather than trying to isolate you, as I do appreciate the fact that medical professionals are severely overworked. The fact that doctors do often end up working 80 hour weeks is insane when, in any other career field, upskilling generally reduces the quantity of tedium and permits higher quality labor. I'd wager medical malpractice due to sleep deprivation alone is a significant cause of mortality. I don't know if lowering med school costs or offloading tasks to lower-skill employees is the solution, but it's certainly an issue of a bigger scale than this discussion.

Imo this issue would be completely solved with a 5 minute conversation where you just give them the option to test in lieu of having that particular vaccine on the schedule. Most people won't care and will choose the default option, but others who are extremely worried about vaccines may view having the more extraneous one on the schedule as evidence that the rest are bullshit. Even if you view it as entertaining retards, there are severe downstream effects when strictly utilitarian decisions are being made. The fact that anti-vax sentiment is becoming the dominant position is evidence enough of that. Nothing is more isolating to a patient than feeling like their concerns aren't being addressed or, worse, shut down before they can even be brought up.

Anonymous No. 16586247

>>16586221
Thank you for the compassion anon, a lot of people just say "ha you complain so much despite getting paid super well" despite the fact that we go through 8 years of optional and expensive school and then 3-7+ years of poorly paid abusive training programs to finally get a job.

But the fact is that every single procedure takes time, and it takes money. If we're already so overworked practicing evidence-based medicine, why would you think it's a smart idea putting even more work in the form of non-evidence-based medicine on our plate?

Your 5 minute conversation is a good idea for patient empowerment until you realize that 50% of people are below average intelligence. We practice learning all this jargon just to have to also learn how to translate that jargon down to the level of a 3rd grader. The issue with giving a choice is that it might make the patient's parents think that giving the vaccine vs not giving the vaccine is of equal benefit and risk to the child. You have to be completely confident in your presentation of the options based on evidence, a second of indecisiveness or vacillation and people think you don't know what you're doing.

Anonymous No. 16586568

>>16586134
trying too hard

Anonymous No. 16587267

>>16586247
Not the anon you're replying to, but if you actually work in medicine I appreciate what you do, I know it can be thankless work. That being said, the other anon is correct that you've admitted the primary justification for newborn Hep B vaccination is expedience and not the newborns health. You can argue that the risks are low enough for expedience to be a reasonable justification, but aluminum is a neurotoxin and I frankly am not convinced that the the effects of aluminum in infant brain tissue has been sufficiently investigated beyond doubt.

Anonymous No. 16587558

>>16586247
Did you recommend COVID vaccines to 13 year olds?

Anonymous No. 16587668

>>16584882
>So that makes him more credible than the anchor baby ambulance chaser before him.

>>16586247
>evidence-based medicine
>has no empirical evidence of a virus
Honk
>why would you think it's a smart idea putting even more work in the form of non-evidence-based medicine on our plate?
What do you think you're doing now?

Anonymous No. 16587690

>>16587668
Who is behind this "viruses are fake" bullshit? The death cult that probably installed RFK Jr. to make measles, mumps and rubella great again!?

Anonymous No. 16588202

>>16586203
Some Vaccines anon.
Some. The amount of vaccines foisted off on the public in our era is insanity.

COVID Isn't a vaccine, I don't care that congress re-defined Vaccine in 2020 to include palliative gene therapy. That goes up there with congress calling a tomato a vegetable.

Anonymous No. 16588297

>>16586203
>Your health is not worth more than anybody else's, we live in a society of equals.

How come I'm the only "equal" I see wearing an N100 respirator in public? I think there is some objective evidence that the vast majority of people give less of a shit about inhaling viruses than I do.