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๐Ÿงต Death of science education

Anonymous No. 16585986

How unlikely do you think my doomsday scenario is?

I clame that in the very near future schools will stop teaching kids math and science due to reasons like:
-"everyone has chatGPT anyway"
-kids have no attention span and their IQs have dropped, so they cant comprehend F=ma in the first place
-budget cuts due to plummeting economy; we need our kids to become bottom-wipers for nursing homes as fast as possible
-there are zero jobs for people like physicists. at least where I live physicists either become teachers or something unrelated to science. why teach kids physics only so that they could become physics teachers?

It's a jarring thought, but physics might soon be considered a bit too "extra" for elementary education. Just pick up a school textbook from the 80s and you will notice just how difficult the problems in it are. We're already dumba than the 80s guys.

Anonymous No. 16585999

It would be a blessed world in which children aren't coerced and lied to into pursuing STEM careers which ruin their lives.

Anonymous No. 16586007

>>16585999
Yeah but a world where everyone just discusses other humans, posts gossip online, thinks about social dynamics, thinks about relationships/sex/love and all the boring stuff sounds nightmarish.

I'm not interested in interpersonal dynamics at all. Humanity as a collective doesnt interest me either. I'm exclusively interested in abstract concepts

Anonymous No. 16586010

>>16585986
>I clame that in the very near future schools will stop teaching kids math and science due to reasons like:
>-"everyone has chatGPT anyway"
You're out of touch. We've had google for over two decades now. Schools didn't stop teaching because everyone can google it anyways.

I don't think most people quite grasp what schools are for. Schools don't exist to make you capable of existing. This is why schools don't teach you how to do taxes, how to cook, how to sew, and all other basic everyday tasks like a lot of retards that don't get schools advocate for.

Schools are meant to produce experts. We aren't teaching kids how to solve quadratic equations because it's going to universally useful for all kids in their lives. We teach this shit to kids because we're trying to filter for kids with an affanity for math. These kids will later study math and become mathematicians. chatGPT is imitative, it answers questions based on information that was fed to it by experts. It's not going to be the next Gauss. The kid we hooked on math in school is, hopefully.

This is why we teach kids a lot of fundamentals from different scientific fields. They don't need it, not the point. We're trying to filter for worthwhile investments. The retarded kids that aren't worthwhile investments? School is a waste of time for them, yes. But their time wasn't valueable to begin with, it's a small sacrifice.

Anonymous No. 16586014

>>16586007
if you dont care about humans why care about the state of human society then, you'll be a recluse with this attitude either way no?

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Stop guessing start learning No. 16586171

>>16585986
I've noticed the steep decline in education also from reading older textbooks.

However it could be on purpose because an educated population is harder to control. It's like what do you do?

The elites still retain advanced knowledge though obviously because what would be the point of the ivy league?

And honestly whats the point of high level physics? It can't be applied in the real world. Like all of the physics I know can only be applied to large scale systems.

Like as a normal person I don't have the capital or power to create or influence a system. I can't even manufacture a vehicle from scratch.

For statistical analysis in demographics you don't need many skilled math people just one or 2.

I dont know man there just not a real need for knowledge. You need more mcdonalds workers and walmart employees than physicst or mathematicians or any advanced level stem education.

Anonymous No. 16586210

>>16585986
Having access to knowledge is not the same as imparting knowledge.
Peak intelligence has likely passed by in my opinion. Top researchers now can't even think of basic shit that would now be considered "creative" or "critical thinking" or "outside the box."

Anonymous No. 16586215

>>16586010
Essentially this + socialization in the norms of a civilized society are the goals of a liberal education model

Anonymous No. 16586218

>>16586171
>Like as a normal person I don't have the capital or power to create or influence a system. I can't even manufacture a vehicle from scratch.
People are capable of amazing things but only if they pay the opportunity cost which means dropping basically all the shit normal people do (fuck around, drink, watch sports, bullshit with friends, slack off, etc.).
Just look at killdozer guy

Anonymous No. 16586226

>>16585986
To a certain mindset, a concerted attack on a proficiency in a domain of science would confirm that this proficiency is a valuable thing to pursue.

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Stop guessing start learning No. 16586286

>>16586218
Your right I see kids on YouTube presenting all kinds of inventions and new designs I'm 33 with a wife and kids not really young enough like these kids with no responsibility and can put time and effort in achieving something great.

But hey there are real people out here doing things so I don't really belive In a doomsday scenario.

I think just like being overly optimistic, being overly pessimistic is just another form of being lazy. We can critique and abstract problems all we want. But it's better to take action to solve the problems and challenges we face.

If your not making steps to make change, you have no right to complain

Anonymous No. 16586435

>>16586007
I mean I kinda want them around tho. what I don't want is deal with their bullshit. this is a legitimate position.
I enjoy music, art, convenience, order, accessibility to various shit. I can't deny that, and I'm bad at making that happen.
there is an argument you could do without all that but it would be kinda boring and way harder.

Anonymous No. 16586441

>>16586286
>picrel
that's literally what geopolitics is on Earth.

Anonymous No. 16587046

>>16586171
>However it could be on purpose because an educated population is harder to control.4

I genuinely believe this.
Most companies dont want smart people, they actively avoid them. Employers want obedience and humility. They don't want workers who question the work they do.
A high IQ population is a serious problem for the elite.
I also believe they're raising food prices so that we'd become malnutritioned, short, dumb, and easier to control that way.

The elite drinks fresh squeezed orange juice, I drink bitter concentrate. Try to guess which one brings antioxidants to your cells better and makes you live longer.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16590047

>>16586007
Accelerate