🧵 Just what was going on with Homo Heidelbergensis in Zambia?
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 21:50:36 UTC No. 16590758
I read about this specimen called Kabwe 1 and it took me down a rabbit hole looking for information about African Heidelbergensis. The more I looked the weirder it got. This is borderline Silurian hypothesis territory here. I don't know if this belongs on /sci/ or /x/. Just what have the paleontologists not published about Homo Heidelbergensis yet? Farming Heidelbergensis?! How many times was this tried before it caught on? This is not the only odd thing to about species from this country. There is a perinate structure built 475,000 years ago only a few miles away from where this starch eating tooth decaying individual lived. Was there a Heidelbergensis population farming at least partially for 200,000 years?
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:39:58 UTC No. 16590810
>>16590758
If I remember correctly, some /x/ wizards speculated about this being primitive remnants from the start of an ancient civilization, which later brought forth the beings commonly known as grey aliens through gradual evolution. They said they fell for the dark forest ideology in their technological golden age and have henceforth dwelled in caverns beneath the oceanic plates, only to threaten us and get BTFO'd by our nukes, after which they became our tech-cucks in return for their right to exist.
Not saying this is what happened, but it's one of the cooler origin stories I heard for them so I thought I'd share it here.
I think the amylase gene is more so an adaptation to their habitat and climate.
Archaic humans dwelled in much more open areas than primates and if you think about it, those areas tend to have much more roots, stems, tubers, etc. in them than fruit.
And in times of undernutrition H. heidelbergensis certainly changed their dietary patterns.
IIRC this behavior is known from H. neanderthalensis. You may look through this article: https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-019-
But again. I might just be misremembering it.
As for the structures, I think modern archeology and anthropology severely underestimates how many structures and shelters prehistoric modern and archaic humans built.
It's just that wood doesn't last or is reused, so very few survived.
But landscaping is an ancient and instinctual behavior and an has been an important navigation and hunting tool for our species.
It's what allowed us to hunt so many species to extinction.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:22:58 UTC No. 16590863
>>16590810
I am glad the mods haven't moved this to /x/ yet. Too many schizos. I seriously think Heidelbergensis was smart enough to figure out that seeds in the ground cause plants to grow. Seeds of edible plants equals more food when you come back. Maybe for a time these early humans were partially farming in one region in Africa, but it never caught on because they weren't quite smart enough to structure their society past a certain point. I find it plausible. But not this pre-Mu civilization they like to yap about. It is just scientists will fart around for years if not decades studying things before they publish it. They might know. I find it odd that they randomly decided to dial back when homo sapiens first show up 300,000 years ago. The same time as when Kabwe 1 lived. It just makes me wonder if they know something they aren't telling the public yet. Trying to find evidence of Heidelbergensis cities first?