Anonymous at Tue, 18 Mar 2025 05:52:48 UTC No. 16622240

>>16622234
Here is what works, 1 to 1 or near 1 to 1 tutoring with someone who is a master at math but also some reason has time to bond with 6 year olds. Which is why the father son master thing is a troupe. Otherwise it is the aristocratic/tutor trope.
Either way the idea is the same, someone who can give enough one on one attention to know what parts are lacking, but also knows enough to explain things at the time the brain is working.
Most “classroom” instruction is lowest common denominator pitched. Which even isn’t that bad….. for the first 6 months. But over a life time, the going slowly thing has logerimethic losses compared to something where just a little more was done every day.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Mar 2025 05:57:11 UTC No. 16622243

>>16622240
>someone who is a master at math but also some reason has time to bond with 6 year olds
i'm on it

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Mar 2025 19:20:09 UTC No. 16622580

>>16622234
No. IQ is genetic. The five year old might become better at doing math but their IQ wouldn't be impacted.

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Mar 2025 19:28:16 UTC No. 16622585

>>16622234
5 year olds can increase their intelligence very quickly but something even teachers often don't understand is it relies on integrating social expectations with the problems at hand.
At that age, showing them how to be a person who solves the problems is the most important factor.
That's not to say they shouldn't do a bunch of practice but it has to be something they can actually imitate.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Mar 2025 03:22:33 UTC No. 16623310

>>16622234
Kumon destroys childhoods.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Mar 2025 08:26:57 UTC No. 16623435

>>16623310
but creates people that earn 6 figure salaries two decades later

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Mar 2025 12:30:31 UTC No. 16623542

Everybody who ever did anything important was naturally already smart, and didnt succeed because of forced tutoring.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Mar 2025 13:54:15 UTC No. 16623620

>>16623435
>there is no way that families purchasing Kumon services for their kids is associated with their socioeconomic status

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Mar 2025 13:58:41 UTC No. 16623625

>>16623620
yeah and beating out the "I wanna be an artist" out of them young keeps that socioeconomic status flowing.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Mar 2025 14:13:44 UTC No. 16623639

>>16623625
Touché. Good point.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Mar 2025 14:20:06 UTC No. 16623644

>>16622234
Its fun and relaxing. There is not that much actual thinking involved until you get to the very end, but by that point you would be better off practicing learning math from a real textbook and lectures.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Mar 2025 14:24:57 UTC No. 16623648

>>16622234
IQ doesn't measure the ability to learn new things, it measures the speed of learning new things.
It CAN measure the ability itself if, for example, learning something would take you 200 years. Because nobody can live that long, so essentially you can't learn it due to your IQ, but if we lived forever then IQ would literally only measure how quickly you learn something, NOT if you can learn it.

To answer your question: no, it wouldn't. It might shape the kid's personality one way or another, but IQ is set in stone and can only get worse through retarded decisions (v*gan diet during development, mouthbreathing, etc) or accidents.

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Mar 2025 14:36:12 UTC No. 16623660

>>16622234
If u want to make your kid smarter at school make them do an hour of exercise before trying to pile on homework. It's especially effective for boys

Anonymous at Wed, 19 Mar 2025 20:51:08 UTC No. 16623884

>>16623648
>if we lived forever then IQ would literally only measure how quickly you learn something, NOT if you can learn it
Nah, it doesn't work that way. IQ is also about depth, precision, memory, extrapolation, and other descriptors. For each person there will be some classes of problems that are too complicated to learn regardless of time.

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Mar 2025 01:03:44 UTC No. 16624651

>>16622240
the reality is harsh but the class divide is so wide, most people don't even know that aristocratic/tutor class even exists these days.
This is beyond those Olympiad medalists who just crammed some problem sets with some apathetic Indiana math professor turned Olympiad tutor as a side job.
These noblesse understand math and economics so intricately, they can practically prophesize world events and move nations at will.

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Mar 2025 01:17:18 UTC No. 16624665

>>16624651
guarantee your average MIT grad understands math better than any political class silver spoon tard
though obviously loses in terms of charisma and influence

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Mar 2025 02:05:09 UTC No. 16624689

>>16622234
Yes. I don't know what's the optimal workload, and just homework is not all, but if you tell a mature enough kid to do a shit ton of exercises, if you point out to him he can skip a lot of the process using properties, and encourage him to check his answers and find out how he makes mistakes, he will find a love for math nobody ever has. Just workload is not enough though, and true teachers almost don't exist. That's why geniuses always come from families with a math teacher parent.

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Mar 2025 02:20:33 UTC No. 16624694

>>16622234
Not really, knowledge does more for IQ then math. Never saw any math proclaim genius doing anything impressive in science, I'm talking about those winners from those yearly math competition. Have you? Logic doesn't necessary needs math, in fact math necessity a lot more about human logic than it can be by itself. Without logic, numbers mean nothing.
The power of the conscious still supercede math in the way of the World.
Is just a tool after all. Discarding will not hinder your logic, only on the personal verification of said logic if necessary.
But then again, we have AI for that today, so..

Anonymous at Fri, 21 Mar 2025 05:13:29 UTC No. 16624759

>>16622234
no it just practice effects the math they learn, most indians that worship kumon are low iq faggots that dont have original thought lmfao

they lie about all of the psychometric data for indians

they have lower FSIQ than whites, but just have enhanced sequenced digit span and matrix reasoning that makes learning easier

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Mar 2025 03:08:32 UTC No. 16625556

>>16624651
Retarded infantile non-sense. What makes rich people rich is:
> 1. THEY WERE BORN FUCKING RICH
> 2. THEY GET ALL THE INSIDE SCOOP FOR 0 EFFORT GAINS BECAUSE THEY WERE BORN/INSTALLED INTO A NETWORK

Period. Same for power.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Mar 2025 03:16:15 UTC No. 16625559

>>16625556
i thought 4chan and /sci/ were all for race science though
and considering the fact that the aristocratic class and the poverty class have demonstrable genetic differences, it's not hard to imagine that there'd be differences in the rich and poor just like there is between bantus and aryan peoples

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Mar 2025 03:32:13 UTC No. 16625564

>>16622234
Depends on the math. Arithmetic? No. Calculus? Yes.
>>16622240
I had a tutor and it helped a lot, had a warp-speed effect on my math education in elementary.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Mar 2025 17:48:30 UTC No. 16625969

>>16625559
retards from pol are for race "science". But only until science shows Jews are the smartest people among all races.

No, evolution doesn't work that fast AT ALL. On average there are difference of course, poor people tend to be retarded and impulsive

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Mar 2025 18:47:46 UTC No. 16626035

>>16622234
Stick to driving fork trucks.
>>16622240
You used a lot of words to say almost nothing of value.

If I teach a 6 year old to master a guitar by the time he's 13 he'll be better than 90% of guitar players on earth and if he sticks with it he'll be a grand master in his 20s and a wizard in his 40s.

You're mostly correct about classroom instruction targeting the lower common denominator but in public schools it's worse because there is no support at all for the top 10%.
>>16622243
We talked about this Ranjit. This is why you're not allowed within 100 yards of a school.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Mar 2025 18:50:29 UTC No. 16626039

>>16623310
>Being raised by a smart phone and the TV while being forced to interact with diversity students who's parents think men can be woman and can't name a single native tree species is "a quality childhood."

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Mar 2025 18:51:44 UTC No. 16626042

>>16623648
IQ measures your ability to take tests.

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:18:00 UTC No. 16626058

>>16626042
Then you time those tests, compare those results with other people who've taken them, adjust for age, and you have a very good indicator of who's smarter than who

Anonymous at Sat, 22 Mar 2025 22:45:22 UTC No. 16626201

>>16626039
>oh china man at plaza shop, take our money and sell us smarts.

Anonymous at Mon, 24 Mar 2025 01:02:21 UTC No. 16627048

nigga iq is just the observed pattern of observed patterns of someone, kumon have nothing to do with this

Anonymous at Mon, 24 Mar 2025 01:34:21 UTC No. 16627056

>>16622234
The introduction of homework and it's increasing use is tied to the increase in work hours, unpaid overtime and people working from home outside of work hours.
I think it's just an indoctrination tactic at this point. "It's normal to finish work, go home and do more work".