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Anonymous at Sun, 23 Mar 2025 14:18:39 UTC No. 16626606
Could you hypothetically use math to win in roulette?
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Mar 2025 14:20:26 UTC No. 16626608
Only if you're the casino.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Mar 2025 14:22:00 UTC No. 16626610
>>16626608
There must be a pattern, as occult as it may be. Everything follows a pattern.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Mar 2025 14:40:29 UTC No. 16626619
>>16626606
In theory, yes. If you knew the weight of the ball, the rotation of the wheel, when and where the ball started, the velocity and distance the ball traveled as it entered, the gravity, the materials, and probably a lot of other variables you would be able to make a simulation that accurately predicts where it will end. You would need to know these things BEFORE you made the bet which you might be able to guess from the psychology of the person running the table, how fast their limbs are, and everything else.
With enough information you can predict literally anything. Nothing is random, everything follows the rules of the universe. If you know the variables and the rules they follow then you will know exactly what will happen.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Mar 2025 14:54:09 UTC No. 16626634
>>16626606
there was a case of people doing exactly that, I think from MIT
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Mar 2025 14:59:16 UTC No. 16626640
>>16626634
that was black jack, which is considerably easier to count cards than it is to predict calculus and physics. They also changed how black jack is played after that incident by including multiple decks to make card counting nearly impossible.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Mar 2025 15:10:17 UTC No. 16626648
>>16626640
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eudae
I was completely wrong about the school, and it wasn't 100%, but it did work.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Mar 2025 15:16:24 UTC No. 16626662
>>16626606
Bet on color, if you loose bet 3 times more...
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Mar 2025 15:37:04 UTC No. 16626689
>>16626648
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euda
I knew of the MIT students but not this one. They made a movie of the MIT people (or a show?).
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:03:19 UTC No. 16626818
>>16626662
>Bet on color, if you loose bet 3 times more...
Yellow never wins.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:05:22 UTC No. 16626821
>>16626606
There was a Spanish family in the 1990s who secretly recorded the results of the local casino's roulette wheels, and were able to identify that some wheels had minor mechanical defects that lead them to being biased to land on certain parts of the wheels. They then used that to win a ton of money. The casino lagged figured out what happened, and sued the family, but the judge sided with the family stating it was the casinos fault for not maintaining their wheels. You could attempt the same method today, though these days casinos are on the watch for people recording wheel results, and do more regular maintenance on their wheels, so probably not doable today.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:07:52 UTC No. 16626823
>>16626821
Link to news article about that family.
https://www.onlineroulettesites.org
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:26:46 UTC No. 16626833
>>16626606
Learn math
don't play
You win!
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Mar 2025 19:50:16 UTC No. 16626861
>>16626634
There's also this: https://www.newscientist.com/articl
People have done it more recently using lasers.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Mar 2025 22:55:47 UTC No. 16626983
>>16626606
The way to win is to not play.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Mar 2025 22:57:13 UTC No. 16626984
>>16626662
>advocating for a strategy which only works if you have infinite money
LMFAO
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Mar 2025 23:06:04 UTC No. 16626994
>>16626610
Yeah. The pattern is that the casino wins.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Mar 2025 23:23:31 UTC No. 16627005
>>16626994
Unless the casino is the actual scam.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/polit
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Mar 2025 23:29:43 UTC No. 16627008
>>16626606
I have run a practical experiment on this:
>get friends to save up for entery to high rollers room
>pretend you don't know eachother
>split bets between red / black and even / odd
>drink for free at high rollers table
>get too pissed and start chatting with mates
>security realize what you are doing and kickes you out
>split money so everyone is even again
We ended up losing ~$100 total for 8 guys to drink top shelf for 2 hours, pretty good deal.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Mar 2025 23:32:53 UTC No. 16627011
>>16627008
This is the only way to win
Stop guessing start learning at Mon, 24 Mar 2025 01:51:24 UTC No. 16627065
>>16626606
No because the variables of the ball direction are infinite. You cannot predict its path or where it will land.
With blackjack thr variables are finite. Because the card deck has only so many cards. But they increase the deck shoe size so it's much harder to predict but still possible.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Mar 2025 02:29:51 UTC No. 16627082
>>16627008
you drink for free at every table in vegas faggot
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Mar 2025 02:51:04 UTC No. 16627090
>>16627082
Gratz, I'm not a clap.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Mar 2025 15:34:53 UTC No. 16627353
>>16626606
Nobody has enough autism to run the calculations in their head in real time to give you enough of an advantage
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Mar 2025 19:45:33 UTC No. 16627549
>>16626606
Not anymore than you could use math to make getting fucked in the ass by a man not gay.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Mar 2025 19:56:47 UTC No. 16627554
>>16627065
>classical mechanical problem has infinitely many degrees of freedom
Most retarded post itt
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Mar 2025 20:56:23 UTC No. 16627602
>>16626648
Is their method published anywhere?
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Mar 2025 21:31:38 UTC No. 16627638
>>16626619
>exact physics of the ball thrown and wheel position and speed
betting is stopped before the ball is thrown. also the dealer throws the ball, not the players.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Mar 2025 21:45:54 UTC No. 16627653
>>16627008
> 0
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Mar 2025 23:32:48 UTC No. 16627731
>>16627653
That's why we lost anything.
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Mar 2025 02:33:56 UTC No. 16627922
>>16626619
Kinda true but your assuming a deterministic universe where everything follows the laws of causality. That might not be true all the time.
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Mar 2025 03:49:28 UTC No. 16627972
>>16626821
>though these days casinos are on the watch for people recording wheel results
What if you discreetly installed a few pinhole cameras (with Bluetooth) to record wheel results?