Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 14:17:24 UTC No. 16630875

>>16630873
Fragile relative to what?

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 14:19:16 UTC No. 16630876

>>16630875
Cats, for example

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 14:47:31 UTC No. 16630899

>>16630873
Have you ever built a perfect lego spaceship? And then you wanted retractable wings, cargo bay doors and a ramp for the rover, escape pod, dinosaur and robot transformation modes.
Turns out that all those features make your build fragile af.
And then your cat knocks it onto the floor to assert dominance.
You are pwnd!

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 14:54:17 UTC No. 16630905

>>16630873
Dexterity, other animals are adapted to do what they do but they lack the dexterity to manipulate tools to the extreme accuracy that we are capable, if you look at other great apes manipulating tools they are incredibly clumsy

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 15:20:27 UTC No. 16630925

>>16630899
>Turns out that all those features make your build fragile af.
It's a fun analogy but not convincing. Ongoing trade-offs and mutations without complete redesign are not the main limitation of our build. Instead I propose a lack of adaptation: we can barely reshape our build during our lifetime despite intense effort I suspect because the risk of dying. For example: why can't we all easily get huge muscles through lifting? Perhaps because the body has not yet learned how to grow rapidly without increasing cancer risk.

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 15:29:10 UTC No. 16630930

We can make tools

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 16:16:42 UTC No. 16630970

>>16630876
Cats are much more fragile than humans

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 16:29:20 UTC No. 16630982

>>16630873
I've never understood that antihuman nonsense, humans are bigger, more endurant, physically stronger and live longer than vast majority of other animal species. Also there's literally no other animal that can adapt to such wide range of habitats as humans, we literally can live (even without modern tech) anywhere from a tropical rainforest to arctic tundra. Humans are peak of animal evolution, being smart is just the icing on the cake.

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 16:36:59 UTC No. 16630987

>>16630982
>Humans are peak of animal evolution
Until you break a bone because you fell from 4 ft and you're too poor to afford recovery so you're permanently left a cripple

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 16:43:14 UTC No. 16630992

>>16630987
Unless you spend a decade sitting 16h a day staring at your computer screen and eat nothing but fries and cola (or are over 70 years old) you are not breaking any bones from a 4ft fall.

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 16:45:56 UTC No. 16630994

>>16630992
You will when you get close to your 40s

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 16:47:33 UTC No. 16630997

>>16630994
Most animals don't live even half that long

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 16:48:09 UTC No. 16630998

>>16630987
Any vertibrate that breaks a leg in the wild is probably going to die

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 17:27:15 UTC No. 16631034

>>16630925
>the body has not yet learned how to grow rapidly without increasing cancer risk
The body isn't even working on the problem. It's letting cosmic rays do all the heavy lifting.

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 17:31:18 UTC No. 16631037

>>16630992
Bro, crazy shit happens all the time. You could live a perfectly healthy life and fall off the cliff during a hike. God flips coins for lulz on the daily.

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 17:48:54 UTC No. 16631058

>>16631034
Has life not already achieved maximum benefit from cosmic rays since life has always been exposed to cosmic rays? At least those who are vulnerable to develop deadly mutations by cosmic rays have already left the gene pool I assume.

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 17:54:12 UTC No. 16631065

>>16631058
>At least those who are vulnerable to develop deadly mutations by cosmic rays have already left the gene pool I assume.
Have you never seen a white man before, Doctor?

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 18:19:25 UTC No. 16631087

>>16631065
Wypipo live in dark places.

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 18:25:38 UTC No. 16631101

People are retarded strong, just look at old fur trappers/settlers/pioneers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bridger
The literal one man army
>His strong constitution allowed him to survive the extreme conditions in the Rocky Mountains from Canadian border to what would become southern Colorado.
This guy spent decades foraging basically by himself. He could speak five languages but never learned to read or write.

>>16630876
Cats are lightweight, so they'll just bounce or fly around.
Pro-tip most skateboarders or runners aren't fucking fat because every extra pound you carry around is a pound weighing you down.

In practical terms you can strengthen your bones through strengthening your muscles. Then you're stronger and by extension tougher than most people you meet

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 18:31:53 UTC No. 16631109

>>16631087
>Wypipo live in dark places.
Laughs in Australia's skin cancer rates.

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 21:24:08 UTC No. 16631267

>>16630873
>we
just you libtard

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 22:01:16 UTC No. 16631313

>>16630876
Cat bodies only have to last about 15 years. Human bodies have to endure 80ish years of abuse.

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 22:06:10 UTC No. 16631320

>>16630873
It's actually pretty robust if you think about the fact that we are basically just some molecules glued together, self sufficient for >80 years while being constantly attacked by billions of creatures every day.

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 22:23:12 UTC No. 16631341

>>16630873
>scrawny sticks whining about bone fragility
You're supposed to have muscle and adipose tissue. Together, these provide protection to the body's underlying structure.
If you find yourself unusually fragile, the solution is to increase the amount of muscle present on your frame.

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 22:34:29 UTC No. 16631349

>>16630873
humans are resilient as fuck - we can survive acute injuries that would kill most other species on this planet outright, as well as chronic injuries or disabilities that would be a death sentence for most animals in the wild.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 13:38:34 UTC No. 16632640

>>16630982
>we literally can live (even without modern tech) anywhere from a tropical rainforest to arctic tundra
We need tech to live anywhere outside of tropics, it's clear we evolved for them as our natural habitat and that's why we managed to conquer all of them through tech. Were to evolve for cold environments with thick furs, we'd probably fail. It's easier to insulate against cold with disardable layers that it is to dump heat.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 13:43:20 UTC No. 16632643

>>16631341
>Midwit can't discern between cause and effect.
Have you ever considered that small and thin bone structures can not support big muscles because the muscles would put too much stress on the bones? No of course not because you're a "just lift bro" retard.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 13:46:02 UTC No. 16632644

>>16631109
>Recently colonized a foreign habitat.
>Why are we not evolutionarily adapted to this place?
I wonder.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 13:50:20 UTC No. 16632651

>>16630873
I'm sorry what? Which animals are "stronger" by your metric?
>Elephants and Rhinos can take bullets!
Yeah and neither of them can fucking jump and if they fall over it could lead to a life ending fracture.
>Lions and Tigers are so big and strong!
If they break a canine they are going to starve to death because they can no longer hunt
>Whales are super big and can tank boats
Yeah and they are crushed under their own weight if they get beached

Any animal you claim is "stronger" or "less fragile" is going to have huge weaknesses and downsides. Overall humans are a fantastic body plan and many of are weaker traits are made up for with our other bodily traits. You don't need to be able to tank a lion maulinh when your upright posture allows you to see one coming from miles away and your endurance allows you to run for long after that retarded cat has ran out of juice and needs to pant just to cool down.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 17:24:40 UTC No. 16632854

>>16630930
But can she suck my tool?

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 17:34:14 UTC No. 16632864

>>16630873
ITs designed to be replaceable.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 17:36:56 UTC No. 16632868

>>16632643
>be me
>get wrist pain from too much keyboard
>dangle 75 pounds from my fingertips
>the pain goes away
>I am now a "Just Lift, Bro"
Thanks for the input, retard. Slow and steady.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 17:52:21 UTC No. 16632892

>>16632868
That's not about increasing muscle mass that's about moving your body more in ways it's supposed to and less in ways it's not supposed to.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 18:02:13 UTC No. 16632901

>>16632892
>I am incapable of understanding the phrase "using your muscles causes your body to adapt to the usage of your muscles"
If you're the same retard, don't fucking mention cause and effect without recognizing that you're too stupid to consider that you are stupid.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 18:10:54 UTC No. 16632919

>>16632901
There's no adaptation in your example. Using your muscles the wrong way only leads to injury. Using your muscles the right way prevents and corrects injury which is not an adaptation but an absence of harming yourself.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 18:18:35 UTC No. 16632930

>>16632919
>a change in circumstances is not adaptation
I see you're adhering exclusively to the biological definition of "adaptation" here. DId you know that there is more breadth to language than you are apparently willing to permit?
Besides, why would I repeatedly say the exact same thing when I could approach you from a few related angles instead?
Just so we're clear, when I say "angles" I am not talking about the geometric construct.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 18:33:16 UTC No. 16632951

>>16632930
Yes, you are. Those angles run the motor, you are puppets in the realm of mind.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 18:39:08 UTC No. 16632966

>>16632930
The OP is about fragility of the human body which means the normal, natural, healthy state and how it came to be. Badly designed is an obvious poke at evolutionary biology. Since you can't find scrawny gorillas despite gorillas not lifting I don't see how lifting is even subject of debate in this thread.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 18:44:14 UTC No. 16632979

>>16632966
Here. >>16631341
Read it a few times. Maybe you'll figure out what I said.
Would you prefer if I told you to make like a child and go the fuck outside to play?

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 18:51:06 UTC No. 16632993

>>16632868
>>16632892
Idk who's right, but anyone who's arguing against lifting is a retard. Anyone who's "fragile" is a pussy.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 18:51:16 UTC No. 16632994

>>16630873
Human beings are incredibly strong and can withstand a multitude of things, we are able to adapt pretty fast to our surroundings.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 18:55:28 UTC No. 16632998

>>16632993
>idk who's right
Atrophied muscle correction. Not biological adaptation, but definitely deliberate adaptation to negative feedback.
The idiot is arguing semantics with the belief that words can only mean one thing ever.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 18:59:43 UTC No. 16633001

>>16630873
If you're not an idiot, you don't go around falling off of cliffs or bumping your shins on rocks

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 18:59:44 UTC No. 16633002

Humans dont have big muscles, because muscles cost money. Can you afford big muscles in todays economy?

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 19:04:16 UTC No. 16633004

>>16633002
Mom said that my big brain already is expensive.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 19:11:06 UTC No. 16633020

>>16630873
Evolution continues, sometimes in unexpected ways. Humans are still evolving.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 19:14:29 UTC No. 16633027

>>16633020
Gonna need a list of which ones you predicted (else, expected (each cited)) or a hefty GTFO is scheduled.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 19:18:05 UTC No. 16633032

>>16633027
The list of mental illnesses is mostly adaptive traites, directly or indirectly

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 19:24:49 UTC No. 16633040

>>16633027
Hmmmmmmm, I dont really know what the fuck things evolve next. Since there is multilevel-selection its really busy out here. Maybe pepe has more to say

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 19:32:33 UTC No. 16633050

>>16633040
Pepe here
Thibgs looking really good
Nicely replicating in the human mind
looks like this could be a real win-win
Keep up motherfucker

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 19:32:44 UTC No. 16633051

>>16630987
bones heal themselves mostly, all you really need is the fractured parts to be in the right position and held still by a cast and to rest obviously

beaver at Tue, 1 Apr 2025 06:16:44 UTC No. 16634656

>>16630873
yeah especially how chronic pain works, wounds heal and how disease spreads. But one thing that is cool about the human body is how when flexible is capable of doing martial arts kicks based on how human hips rotate.

The rotation of human hips is likely based entirely on running from danger and having sex but it seems the same hips are capable of doing things like spinning hook kicks, spinning side kicks ect... Which is cool AF

Anonymous at Tue, 1 Apr 2025 06:52:10 UTC No. 16634675

>>16630873
The original model could last for 900 years, but they sinned against God so their life span was nerfed to 120 years. They kept sinning mixing their blood with animals and now living after 80 is just awful.

Anonymous at Tue, 1 Apr 2025 06:57:38 UTC No. 16634682

>>16632644
They disrupt natural tanning mechanisms by using shades and covering their bodies even when they are not under direct strong sun light.

Anonymous at Wed, 2 Apr 2025 15:07:33 UTC No. 16635103

>>16630873
wait until we become advanced bio robots that can withstand absolute zero, sun temperatures, radioactivity, can process as much data as current computers, can store as much data, strong enough to cut stainless steel with bare hands, live very long, can disassemble and assemble the right way all particles to travel at light speed, all while still being able to have sex and eat meat