🧵 Universe 25
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 20:22:58 UTC No. 16631231
The "Universe 25" experiment is one of the most terrifying experiments in the history of science, which, through the behavior of a colony of mice, is an attempt by scientists to explain human societies. The idea of "Universe 25" Came from the American scientist John Calhoun, who created an "ideal world" in which hundreds of mice would live and reproduce. More specifically, Calhoun built the so-called "Paradise of Mice", a specially designed space where rodents had Abundance of food and water, as well as a large living space. In the beginning, he placed four pairs of mice that in a short time began to reproduce, resulting in their population growing rapidly. However, after 315 days their reproduction began to decrease significantly. When the number of rodents reached 600, a hierarchy was formed between them and then the so-called "wretches" appeared. The larger rodents began to attack the group, with the result that many males begin to "collapse" psychologically. As a result, the females did not protect themselves and in turn became aggressive towards their young. As time went on, the females showed more and more aggressive behavior, isolation elements and lack of reproductive mood. There was a low birth rate and, at the same time, an increase in mortality in younger rodents. Then, a new class of male rodents appeared, the so-called "beautiful mice". They refused to mate with the females or to "fight" for their space. All they cared about was food and sleep. At one point, "beautiful males" and "isolated females" made up the majority of the population.
According to Calhoun, the death phase consisted of two stages: the "first death" and "second death." The former was characterized by the loss of purpose in life beyond mere existence — no desire to mate, raise young or establish a role within society.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 20:23:10 UTC No. 16631232
As time went on, juvenile mortality reached 100% and reproduction reached zero. Among the endangered mice, homosexuality was observed and, at the same time, cannibalism increased, despite the fact that there was plenty of food. Two years after the start of the experiment, the last baby of the colony was born. By 1973, he had killed the last mouse in the Universe 25. John Calhoun repeated the same experiment 25 more times, and each time the result was the same.
Calhoun's scientific work has been used as a model for interpreting social collapse, and his research serves as a focal point for the study of urban sociology.
We are currently witnessing direct parallels in today’s society..weak, feminized men with little to no skills and no protection instincts, and overly agitated and aggressive females with no maternal instincts.
Have a good weekend.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Mar 2025 22:52:57 UTC No. 16631360
>>16631231
>We are currently witnessing direct parallels in today’s society..weak, feminized men with little to no skills and no protection instincts, and overly agitated and aggressive females with no maternal instincts.
pol retard
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Mar 2025 03:26:14 UTC No. 16631487
>>16631360
Yet true
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Mar 2025 03:46:12 UTC No. 16631492
>>16631360
tranny
TDG !!OQvC3qmVz0I at Sat, 29 Mar 2025 05:51:39 UTC No. 16631523
>>16631232
>Have a good weekend.
You too! ^^
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Mar 2025 08:08:52 UTC No. 16631567
life has no meaning that's no big revelation or conspiracy you retard
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Mar 2025 09:50:47 UTC No. 16631610
That's why poverty is good. Our biological systems are overfitted to scarce means. Without fear and hunger we cannot move on.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Mar 2025 10:32:56 UTC No. 16631660
>>16631231
>Abundance of food and water, as well as a large living space.
Humans don't have that.
>"ideal world"
Translation: artificial scarcity is good for you goy keep fighting eachother and don't attack the architects of your suffering.
>As a result, the females did not protect themselves and in turn became aggressive towards their young.
The way human females and female mice are aggressive is not comparable.
>The larger rodents began to attack the group
Current human males compete without direct confrontation.
I can't believe you're falling for this nonsense.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Mar 2025 10:55:05 UTC No. 16631683
>>16631360
hes right
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Mar 2025 10:56:06 UTC No. 16631684
>>16631492
pol retard
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Mar 2025 20:34:34 UTC No. 16632062
>>16631231
Are you retards paid by Rothschilds to make me go insane with this universe 25 nonsense?
All original mice were direct siblings and mice are aggressive to their siblings to prevent incest, the "ideal world" was in a metal hangar under scorching sun without AC, with piles of shit and dead mice rotting in the middle of the main cage. Just forget about this shitfest (and other sociology "experiments" too, they are all like this), you can criticize modern society without it.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Mar 2025 20:52:00 UTC No. 16632067
>>16631231
That was the one nobody was ever able to reproduce, right?
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Mar 2025 21:42:43 UTC No. 16632112
>>16632062
Actually I heard that if there were more genetic diversity (the amount of mice can be calculated btw) they would strive forever, even given some inconvenience of heat and poop.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 00:40:18 UTC No. 16632185
>>16631567
life's meaning is to gain an experience of limitation. but why am i telling this to a hylic
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 00:27:15 UTC No. 16633253
>>16632062
What fascinates me is how desperate jews are to disprove the mouse utopia experiment, despite it making real world predictions better than most modern "science". Hikis were literally predicted by the mouse utopia. Now there's a huge decline in sex among younger generations (which isn't actually a problem) and all the economists are shitting their pants and making 3 billion birtherism shill threads a day on /pol/.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 06:46:31 UTC No. 16633497
>>16631231
This is a Rockefeller foundation psyop just so they could make brainwashing kids movies like Secret of Nihm.
It wasn't a paradise, they tortured the hell out of the mice by depriving them of proper space and ability to engage in their natural activities.
>as well as a large living space
It wasn't large at all a typical field mouse roams a couple of miles, but the mice in this experiment didn't have so much as a running wheel.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 06:48:35 UTC No. 16633500
>>16633253
>Now there's a huge decline in sex among younger generations
Did the utopia mice get blasted with abundance of internet mouse porn or something?
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 06:50:27 UTC No. 16633501
>>16632185
Limitation is inherent to life, its not its purpose, you are only alive because you are living your specific life which is limited to your retarded body, no amount of experience will change that because you will always be you, your self will always be your limit.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 08:50:01 UTC No. 16633563
>>16633253
>despite it making real world predictions better than most modern "science"
You mean predicting that if you put inbred mice into a hot box filled with shit and rotting corpses they are not going to do well? Wowzer, thank you scoyence for predicting the fall of the west.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 08:56:08 UTC No. 16633565
Makes sense, humans allegedly found themselves in paradise before and our only choice was to fuck it up. This aligns with a 3+2 space-time that exists to facilitate choice over comfort, which in turn aligns with photonic information exchange as foundational and the arrow of time being the first choice.
>>16631523
RAT!
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 09:19:56 UTC No. 16633582
>>16633565
>choice over comfort
No, you can't even choose yourself, so of course you can't choose if that self is going to be comfortable or not.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 09:22:51 UTC No. 16633584
>>16633582
Agency must be prior to the self, as photons can change their mind but you can't.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 09:24:04 UTC No. 16633585
>>16633500
No. Oversocialization. I wouldn't worry about it, we don't have that.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 09:25:05 UTC No. 16633587
>>16633563
>Being a tranny
>Being proud of it
GRIM.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 09:25:24 UTC No. 16633589
>>16633585
Oversharing is definitely a type of oversocialization and putting volumes upon volumes of videos of your butthole on the internet is definitely a form of oversharing.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 09:26:25 UTC No. 16633590
>>16633584
Whose has agency without the self?
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 09:37:24 UTC No. 16633600
>>16631231
>open top cage
>no hiding places
>no visible enrichment
>single level floor
>way too small for 600 mice
Yeah that’s not a paradise. Mice need more than unlimited food and water. Keeping mice in an enclosure like that is a recipe for anxious, bored, unhealthy mice
>keeping male mice together in close proximity
Sounds fake. They would start killing each other long before the population reached 600. You can’t even keep 2 male mice together in a normal enclosure, they’re too territorial. They don’t get along with other males like rats do
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 09:45:43 UTC No. 16633606
>>16633600
>Yeah that’s not a paradise. Mice need more than unlimited food and water. Keeping mice in an enclosure like that is a recipe for anxious, bored, unhealthy mice
Surely there is no comparison between this and modern human society!
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 10:02:45 UTC No. 16633620
>>16633606
Are you saying that there is a more dominant animal on the earth that is trapping human societies inside tiny little exhibits to study them?
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 10:03:50 UTC No. 16633621
>>16633600
I was thinking about this experiment. What they needed was a place for the white mice to run to.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 10:04:05 UTC No. 16633622
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 10:06:09 UTC No. 16633624
>>16633606
Humans generally aren’t worried about not having overhead coverage because a bird might grab them
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 11:05:37 UTC No. 16633657
>>16633624
Right because in human society, the bird accuses you of inappropriate touching and the pig grabs you for it.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 11:07:34 UTC No. 16633658
>>16633657
Maybe for you, but I cannot be grabbed by the pigs. I am too fast
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 11:10:08 UTC No. 16633659
>>16633658
Ok, greased up deaf guy
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 11:30:16 UTC No. 16633673
>>16631231
>terrifying
lol
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 11:35:22 UTC No. 16633677
>>16631231
I like this experiment for a lot of reasons, and I think some of it does apply to people. I mean you can already see how shit big cities are and can get. Mental illness rampant, social structures require strict enforcement to remain healthy and that itself is not healthy. Crime. polygamy, transexuals. It's all there.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 12:42:07 UTC No. 16633716
>>16631231
They didn't all fail though, the entire point was to figure out how the physical layout would affect the social one.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 12:51:36 UTC No. 16633724
>>16633716
No it wasn't, they put very little thought into the cage which is why it looks like a cheap s&m club.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 15:08:57 UTC No. 16633844
>>16633253
Name three real world prediction it made better than modern science.
>Hikkis
>decline in sex
Really? Can you point out how it conforms to this experiment? Can you give me the numerical extrapolation you would make, and let's see how it measure up?
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Apr 2025 09:15:49 UTC No. 16634843
>>16631231
>had Abundance of food and water, as well as a large living space.
>large living space.
Mouse density was like 1000 times more than maximum density in the natural habitat.
It's all you need to know about commie idea of "Utopia"
bodhi at Wed, 2 Apr 2025 11:37:31 UTC No. 16634933
It was certainly an interesting experiment but people misinterpret the results. What it showed is that nature itself, the consciousness that governs this entire reality supersedes the consciousness of any individual players within the reality itself. It is always working to achieve balance. Like a rubber band it snaps back against anomalies created by the beings within the reality itself to bring it back to stasis. As too may rats filled the enclosure the inhabitants behavior changed and the birth rates lowered, the same thing you see happening industrialized first world nations. Interestingly Michael Chrcthton's sequel novel to Jurassic Park, Jurassic Park 2, addresses the role of behavior in evolution shedding light on a fact glossed over by biologists and anthropologists ..... that evolution is not just physical process and transformation but a mental and behavioral one as well
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 13:23:49 UTC No. 16637226
i made a thread about this experiment a while back on /lit/ and an anon who seemed fairly knowledgeable chimed in
he claimed that there were 3 issues with the experiment:
1. the original breeding pairs of mice were siblings, which are more aggressive to each other
2. the habitat wasn't properly maintained
3. a single mouse could easily block a hole which led to many of the nests, leading to incensement among the population, i guess
points 1. and 2. are related, because the mice would often block the holes leading to the nests due to their aggression, which would trap some mice in the open area which was never cleaned or air-conditioned, so naturally the problem only became worse as more mice were born
i'm not really sure if the results would have been different had these 3 points been corrected because i don't know much about mice
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 13:43:04 UTC No. 16637236
>>16634843
>craputalism utopia
>ur homeless
>broken leg
>on fent
good job! but hey at least ur talking ebonics instead of german
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 18:29:44 UTC No. 16637499
>>16631231
>John Bumpass Calhoun
Is it Bum-pass or Bump-ass? How can you take such a joke seriously?
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 20:55:40 UTC No. 16637596
>>16631231
That's the one that no one could ever replicate, right?
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 21:22:45 UTC No. 16637611
>>16637499
I drove on Bumpass Road near Lake Anna, Virginia. It was indeed a bumpy-ass road.