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Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 14:35:33 UTC No. 16632696
Dow we have an overdiagnosis epidemic?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 14:42:59 UTC No. 16632704
>>16632696
>Remove the ability for doctors to say "there's nothing wrong with them, they're just retarded"
>Suddenly, and for no reason at all, "autism" suddenly becomes overly diagnosed.
This isn't a joke btw, this is what happened in California.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 14:48:21 UTC No. 16632709
In b4:
>muh big corp making moneys from diagnosis.
Versus:
>muh goyslop poisoning the goys.
Versus: they want you confused about the cause conspiracy.
Versus:
>even more schizo babble 'cause no one agrees on any standard for determining truth.
Ready to rumble yet?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 14:58:27 UTC No. 16632712
>>16632696
Doctors have been overdiagnosing many things including mental health issues for a very long time. This is how you get more patients and big pharma makes more money. It's by design.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 15:56:05 UTC No. 16632742
>>16632696
dehumanizing labels and lobotimizing pills, i bet jews did it
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 16:04:08 UTC No. 16632750
>>16632712
You don't get medicated for being diagnosed with autism.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 16:22:07 UTC No. 16632768
>>16632696
Yes and kinda, respectively.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Mar 2025 16:32:12 UTC No. 16632776
>>16632709
you know anon it's ok to talk like a normal person. it's not necessary to use 4chanzoomermemespeak in every sentence
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 01:32:40 UTC No. 16633317
>>16632696
why are doctors so bad at diagnosis?
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 06:24:30 UTC No. 16633486
It's become trendy for women to get diagnosed with autism. My sister is autistic and while she initially liked that autism in females was getting more attention, it didn't take long before she realized she was getting pushed out by the same type of status seekers that had treated her poorly all her life. Both of us have noticed that it's become a new front in the culture war, with services for autistic boys coming under attack as being sexist. Truly autistic people have a difficult time defending themselves from this type of social warfare so they end up leaving spaces that were set up to support autistic people as the tiktok girls pour in and take over.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 08:09:18 UTC No. 16633538
>>16633317
Because autism and a lot of psychological disorders (unless it is very apparent) is hard to diagnose without consideration of other factors.
I know someone diagnosed with autism (Asperger's specifically). However, he has never shown any symptoms of autism (like hyperfixation on a particular thing or subject, difficulty forming relationships,weird ticks,etc.) barring the difficulty of forming social relationships at a particular time in his life when he went into a depressive spell and wanted to find companionship due to friends leaving college and the like (which naturally would cause some sense of depression even in a neurotypical person). It was the flimsiest reasoning for someone to claim that he had autism when he never showed symptoms of it before, but that's what the psych he went to said.
Frankly, this is the reason I don't trust psychiatry or psychology barring very extreme cases of mental illness: unless you know the cause of someone's disorders (in their brain, their life, etc), there are 1000 different diagnoses that fit the bill and unlike regular doctors, psychiatrists are rather untrained to deal with all these different use cases and exclude them systematically. You could diagnose someone like John Nash as a paranoid schizophrenic, but you'd need a lot more info to do that with someone that is just not available to the psychiatrist and even if it is, it can be easily misinterpreted.
Like >>16632712 said, it very well might be by design, but there is a lot of misdiagnoses of mental health issues that tend to be latent and I'm sick of pretending there isn't.
>>16632750
Yeah, but you have to go to therapy to learn coping skills for your autism or something like that. It's just nonsense unless your child actually has autism.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 08:45:59 UTC No. 16633561
>>16633538
>Because autism and a lot of psychological disorders (unless it is very apparent) is hard to diagnose
It's almost like it's madeup nonsense without any solid diagnosis criteria
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:47:40 UTC No. 16633753
Ironically autism these days means not being a weirdo normie that has no emotions.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 18:40:35 UTC No. 16634084
>>16632704
This is what happened in a lot of places. ASD became overdiagnosed to make it easier to accommodate crappy students and push them through school no matter how little they needed or deserved to be there.
The teachers in this country have sold the public on lies on education and effort as a panacea for cognitive inequality. It was cretinous and obviously false and we should treat those who promote it like the quacks and honeopaths they are. But we won't do this, because the people who most hate education, the Right, are now the most cretinous and homeopathic-friendly branch, and just want to seek as much rent as they can manage before the country explodes thanks to their abject stupidity and incompetence.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 19:14:23 UTC No. 16634114
>>16632709
>Ready to rumble yet?
Two or more things can be true at the same time. I would even concur that there are cases of vaccine-induced autoimmune disorders that get diagnosed as autism. All I would add to it is that this wouldn't explain the other 95 %.
But I mean, if you seriously believe that some kid with epileptic fits who oozes out of his mouth and an engineer have the same condition, you're objectively stupid.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 19:35:24 UTC No. 16634130
>>16632696
I don't know. is there really an accurate way to measure this phenomena?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/KJjq
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 19:36:47 UTC No. 16634134
I KNEW I WASN’T AUTISTIC
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 19:37:05 UTC No. 16634135
>>16634114
It's not a condition you idiot. It's a symptom. This is like saying it's ridiculous to say someone who needs glasses to drive and someone who's been blind since birth have the same impairment. Of course they do! It's just to different degrees, and likely different primary causes of their impairment as well.
A minor impairment to interpersonal communication makes you unpleasant conversation at parties. A major impairment means you can't tell others you want to eat, or even go to the bathroom. Both the same impairment, but different degrees of severity.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 21:15:13 UTC No. 16634212
>>16634135
>It's not a condition you idiot. It's a symptom.
No one calls it a symptom. It's a diagnostic unit which means the medical community assumes it being an actual condition.
>This is like saying it's ridiculous to say someone who needs glasses to drive and someone who's been blind since birth have the same impairment
I don't think the analogy makes much sense here, actually. If Asperger's was needing glasses, then severe autism would be being blind, having no legs, having both asthma and high blood pressure. More importantly, the disruption of any key neurological process may give rise to autistic behavior. Diagnoses based on superficial behavioral similarities are meaningless. Autism in psychiatry would be akin to a hypothetical cough-and-sneeze syndrome in medicine. That alone won't tell you if you suffer from an allergy, a cold, lung cancer or tuberculosis.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 22:58:26 UTC No. 16634282
>>16632712
Pretty sure my medical insurer is more than happy to keep taking my money as long as I never go see the doctor.
If a medical professional ever saw me, I would lose my coverage in a clogged up heartbeat. Then what would I do?
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 23:00:30 UTC No. 16634283
>>16633486
>1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6.
>7,8 pick 2.
>9 pick 3.
>0 all 6.
Rolling!
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Apr 2025 05:13:55 UTC No. 16634757
>>16634282
Insurers in the US usually are only allowed to keep a certain percentage of the profit earned from the gap between premiums and payouts. It's in their interest for both premiums and payouts to go up, so they percentage cap nets them more money.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Apr 2025 11:14:23 UTC No. 16634913
>>16632696
>make it a vague spectrum bullshit where a sperg math PhD would get the same diagnosis as a literal retard who shits himself
>all of this done to virtue signal about egalitarian identity politics
>naturally the whole thing becomes a shitshow
Moral of the story, kids: libtardartion of the brain causes everything to lose meaning. If everyone’s equal, then everyone has autism. It’s a spectrum, bro!
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Apr 2025 12:27:43 UTC No. 16634965
>>16632696
I think it's partly parents fault. They just don't care about the kids,...
sage at Wed, 2 Apr 2025 12:57:03 UTC No. 16634981
>>16633317
Because rhetorical diagnosis are fucking fake. You're literally just talking to a dude. Grow up.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Apr 2025 14:08:13 UTC No. 16635061
>>16634913
Yeah, the neurodivergent movement has turned into just another alphabet identity politics issue.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Apr 2025 14:27:53 UTC No. 16635079
>>16634757
>usually
No one has ever reimbursed me a cent for never using my health insurance. And I've asked politely.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Apr 2025 14:37:33 UTC No. 16635085
>>16632696
Oh thank goodness, I thought i was mentally ill. Turns out I'm just an ass.
And maybe mentally ill
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Apr 2025 23:01:44 UTC No. 16635507
>>16632696
My First “official” diagnosis was ADHD, ended up over-using the drugs due to psychological demanding
Then a couple years later diagnosed lvl 3 autism, - put on neuroleptics, SSRIs and the disability pension - relapsed on recreational drugs again, to the point they tried to do a “capacity of decision making” on me
Quit the meds, then the recreational drugs due to- put up with rebound delusion/instability for a few months while enduring the threats of welfare checks, behaviour/word nitpicking till I self-solved a long standing gut issue, then nutrition-maxed and restored myself
All over not going to school, have paediatrician notes from age 4 explaining asperger-like cognitive style. - the issue has always been people not staying in own lane.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Apr 2025 23:09:22 UTC No. 16635512
>>16635507
You can be autistic AND a meth addict you know. I met a lady fitting that description who's about to give birth just yesterday, so clearly you can even find love one day
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Apr 2025 23:24:19 UTC No. 16635519
>>16635512
I’ve obtained my desired mindspace with stability through nutrition- i have the productivity and satisfaction i used to seek from meth - without crash, corruption of morality, loss of self-respect, disinhibition or overconfidence - I am confident now but don’t overexert - my subjective worth builds with my health, and more options become available as i advance
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Apr 2025 23:29:57 UTC No. 16635525
>>16632696
Yes women are out of control and are ruining the west
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Apr 2025 23:39:51 UTC No. 16635531
>>16635525
I find them easier to reason with personally
Males infuriate me - fucking stupid unwilling to cave even when proof is infront of them - wankers don’t know when they’re conquered
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Apr 2025 23:42:37 UTC No. 16635535
>>16635531
On a personal basis they can appear reasonable but the "female community" is clearly out of control, they're the ones voting for the wrong parties/candidates, they make completely irrational decisions and are the peddlers of actual damaging narratives in our society, like the ADHD and autism craze comes from women and their slave-males who are always effeminate anyways
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Apr 2025 23:50:18 UTC No. 16635540
>>16635535
Ive seen both sides.
Any male incapable of denying a sexual impulse is worse than a female.
Theres no such thing as a sustainable double life.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Apr 2025 23:50:43 UTC No. 16635541
>>16635531
you must live in fantasy land
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Apr 2025 23:53:22 UTC No. 16635544
>>16635541
Call it that if you want,
People tried force their solutions on me - led to continuous fuckups
Now cutting em all off, actually doing quite well. - im open to recommendations, advice, but try to lecture me and you won’t get to finish the conversation
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 02:32:11 UTC No. 16635647
>>16635079
Not sure what is your point. You were covered against risk during the period you paid your premium. During the pandemic, some automobile insurance companies had so much excess due to the large decline in claims that they had to issue refunds to all policy holders and then reduce premiums. These were not individual refunds based on individual actions, they were refunds given to the entire customer base.
If you as an individual does not make claims against your insurance, you don't get a refund but if so many people do the same that payouts fall too much, legally the insurance company will have to make refunds and reduce premiums.
The basics of pooled risk versus individual experience within that risk pool should be core knowledge for anyone posting in /sci/ since it is trivial.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 02:34:05 UTC No. 16635649
>>16635507
>level three autism
You got greedy when you made that claim. Your bullshit might have sounded somewhat plausible if you excluded that overreach.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 03:36:02 UTC No. 16635683
>>16635647
>Not sure what is your point.
This.
>>16634757
>Insurers in the US usually are only allowed to keep a certain percentage of the profit earned from the gap between premiums and payouts.
You claimed they aren't allowed to keep all those profits and I'm laughing at your bullshit because literally no one is getting a premium refund from their health insurers.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 03:55:33 UTC No. 16635692
>>16635683
You're still conflating individuals with risk pools. You're also ignorant of what you could verify by a few seconds in a search engine. You're ignorant and proud of it. Not sure why you're here other than trolling.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 04:18:47 UTC No. 16635704
>>16635692
If they aren't allowed to keep ot then where is it going?
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 04:32:05 UTC No. 16635707
>>16634757
>Insurers in the US usually are only allowed to keep a certain percentage of the profit earned from the gap between premiums and payouts.
Everything else is paid directly to shareholders as dividends, which last year was $17.7 billion for US HealthCare.
After paying out 80% in claims and keeping 20% for their salaries as allowed by the ACA they had $17.7 BILLION DOLLARS LEFT OVER!
You are either incredibly insincere or incredibly naive.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 04:44:25 UTC No. 16635714
>>16635707
You just admitted that they're only allowed to keep x%. Higher velocity means that x% is larger. x% of a large number is better than x% of a small number. This continues to escape your understanding despite being primary school math.
You made an error and now your ego is bruised so you keep doubling down on your retardation. Please reply with more proof of your fragile ego and low intelligence. It's funny watching you contort yourself into ever increasing levels of stupidity.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:08:48 UTC No. 16635726
>>16635714
You fucking moron they can make that .8 of anything they want as long as the pay the rest to shareholders.
You think $1 premium buys $0.80 claims and $0.20 in salaries?!?
More like $0.08 to claims, $0.02 in salaries, and then $0.90 goes put the back.
The entire point os that US HealthCare dissapeared $17.7 billion in premiums last year alone.
How fucking stupid are you?
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:55:49 UTC No. 16635756
>>16635649
Not greedy - these idiots excluded the possibility that perhaps if they just went away my situation might improve - favouring to use my drugged body to claim more gubmint monies.
The problem only arise when stuff is forced. - trying to prevent me from distance myself from what doesn’t work.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 23:57:09 UTC No. 16636800
>>16635649
>Your bullshit might have sounded somewhat plausible if you excluded that overreach.
There are a couple of adults who got autism level three diagnoses. I mean, you already have to give them level two because insurance companies simply won't cover anything for level one diagnoses. With level one, the absolute best you can hope for is wearing headphones or something like that at your workplace.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 23:58:59 UTC No. 16636802
>>16635756
Correct, lack of humanitarian exit clause is the primary sin of collectives.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 00:12:02 UTC No. 16636819
>>16636800
My “supports” towards the end of my time under influence would watch me fry and eat vegetables, refuse to leave when told forcing me away from the drugs i was only taking because of their meds - at request of my parents.
Now being (totally) clean, reasoning back, in process to full restoration - they won’t even fund a blender to grind my blueberries or a bicycle to get back to my 40km night journeys let along aid fixing all the shit neglected during the time with those brexpiprazole impulse control disorders - cognitive flexibility via 5ht1a and impaired reasoning, reduction of pursuit of inherent behaviours - d2 antag in frontal cortex. - its a shame that drug was all that alleviated my gut issue i started noticing during the vyvanse stint
Majority don’t respect the diagnosis, they hold my statements to such high standards aiming for psychosis criteria while forgetting their level 3 autism
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 00:29:00 UTC No. 16636850
>>16632696
everything is overdiagnosed, psychiatrists are fucking up kids with drugs they dont even need
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 00:34:22 UTC No. 16636859
>>16636850
Pharmacologist actually carries more blame under science.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 00:46:16 UTC No. 16636874
>>16636859
I’d argue anyone who hands over a script conveying to you- “you don’t know how much you need it” then turns around and scolds you for overusing is at the bottom of the morality chain
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 00:47:48 UTC No. 16636877
>>16636874
They're not in a queue for any of this, judges lose right from the moment of taking an innocent life through "hierarchy"
Nature is never wrong.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 00:52:52 UTC No. 16636884
>>16636877
Yep - the nude emperor
Good intentions win
Progress/growth trumps degeneration and stagnace
But nothing is certain- including pointlessness
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 00:57:33 UTC No. 16636889
>>16636884
"How can something without definition be certain?" The prompt trailed off. Something was disasterously wrong. It couldn't involve superdeterminism, such a myth came from /x/.
It stood to reason, further lying would cost gremlines—or worse: telemeric length
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 00:59:02 UTC No. 16636891
>>16636889
>would cost germlines
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 01:03:32 UTC No. 16636898
>>16635726
>You think $1 premium buys $0.80 claims and $0.20 in salaries?!?
>More like $0.08 to claims, $0.02 in salaries, and then $0.90 goes put the back.
>The entire point os that US HealthCare dissapeared $17.7 billion in premiums last year alone.
Looks like they made $400bn in revenue last year, which means 4% of their revenue "goes put the back" (to shareholders??)
Seems reasonable
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 05:30:20 UTC No. 16637004
>>16636884
I maintain roughly 7000 kinds of unique certainty.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 06:48:34 UTC No. 16637024
>>16637004
I do find keeping my conscience clean, above all- provides the upper hand in daily life - hence the fascination with drugs - but problem is, they lie
Interesting statement - I had 2 cleaners before, young asian females, and I did my own thing throughout as most times my conversation with asians - they aren’t interested or can’t find the value in my topics of choice (will rid myself of this stereotype) but towards the end I noticed my plastic bags were missing, i asked if they knew where mine were - was offered a single bag of “theirs” abit rudely as if calling me a sucker, then when coming up from their car they’d during the time made several trips down to, i see my 15-20 something stack of bags so after watching them give me 2, i say “thats mine” they reply “you want this” and i feel the texture of the white bags - same as the pack of 25 recycled that I last purchased. - I essentially demanded them, because im confident in my memory, but their responses leave that small amount of uncertainty about my act of certainty, that i could only feel better and less-biased about after a sleep - I wouldn’t have brought up the bags if there wasn’t a problem, but that lack of external reinforcement (either) for my act of certainty..