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Anonymous No. 16633346 Report

why arent animals and humans sexually fertile at birth? (ability to ejaculate and ovulation)
doesnt it make more sense to have this ability at birth? macaques take 3 years to sexually mature, thats way too long of a time

Anonymous No. 16633360 Report

do you want the math

Anonymous No. 16633363 Report

>>16633360
i want scientific explanation

Anonymous No. 16633370 Report

>>16633363
Evolution sometimes makes efficient forms

Anonymous No. 16633371 Report

>>16633370
so if theres a gene for precocious puberty should we manually select for it?

Anonymous No. 16633395 Report

>>16633371
No, you should kill yourself. This is very easy to figure out.
Keep demonstrating this obsession publicly if you have issues with self termination.

Anonymous No. 16633396 Report

>>16633371
Depends, pretty much yes if we find one. The problem is with letting people evolve. It's morally wrong to vote on the genes of another entity, so if we do it, the experiment gets done. All the way. Raised to adulthood. Given the right to vote. You don't overrule the decision of experiments YOU chose to let loose in the world. You create life, evolution is owed. How it goes, whether you get outcompeted, these are not yours to decide for the rest of human history.

Unless you're me and planning to live forever, in which case a lot of moral arguments change. (' -' )

Anonymous No. 16633398 Report

>>16633346
It just hasn't happened, maybe due to a lack of selective pressure versus hypothetical negative side effects that come with undelayed onset puberty.

Think about how pituitary giants are taller than average, which is usually more sought after but riddled with health issues. Another is macroorchidism in Fragile X syndrome patients. Sure, they have bigger balls on average, but they come with loads of side effects.

Anonymous No. 16633400 Report

How can we reverse puberty in order to become the perfect little girl?
I liked my vibes before puberty more, sexuality sucks and is lame and gay.

Anonymous No. 16633401 Report

>>16633400
First time I've heard it, give me three hours.

Anonymous No. 16633412 Report

>>16633396
but we need at-birth-puberty

Anonymous No. 16633420 Report

>>16633412
How exactly are you modeling these needs?

Anonymous No. 16633422 Report

>>16633420
all guys want women younger than them but that means 20 year old guys dont have a legal woman yet, we need a toddler that can give birth

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Anonymous No. 16633430 Report

>>16633346
Most of human reproductive biology is dictated by the enormity of the human head. Human mothers struggle so much with childbirth and babies die so often because of the difficulty squeezing out their huge heads. We're born with our skulls split into pieces so our head can mush around to fit through when we're born. Biologically speaking, all human babies are sort of preemies, with a freakishly long dependency and uselessness period that impedes the herd, because we have to be born early, because if we were born any later at all our heads simply could not escape the womb.
And we don't become sexually mature until typically our teens, because in order to birth a human a woman needs wider hips than a human head and a sturdy lower body to survive pushing out a human head, and to be born with those would kill the mother faster than a baby with a slightly bigger head.
This is the true cost of becoming
>sapiens sapiens

Anonymous No. 16633432 Report

>>16633430
what if all humans were born through c section

Anonymous No. 16633433 Report

>>16633371
By the way I wrote the big head post just now and you should probably kill yourself or at least your urges and stay away from teenagers too.
But that is the actual scientific explanation for why we are born sexually immature and take a long time to become so.

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Anonymous No. 16633434 Report

>>16633432
A bright future indeed. Could we achieve such things, or tube incubations even... why there would be no limit on the size of the heads!!
Think of the grey matter good lord.

Anonymous No. 16633435 Report

>>16633433
but if all we die at 8 we would have died before having the ability of reproduction we would go extinct

Anonymous No. 16633447 Report

>>16633346
From the perspective of resources: Fertility is only useful if you can raise the offspring. Newborns don't have the resources to raise offspring, so their parents would have to raise any hypothetical offspring. In most cases, parents are already raising as many offspring as they can already.

From a physiological perspective: there is a huge size difference between newborns and mother. At the very least, the child has to grow large enough to that the newborn can pass through the birth canal.

And in either case, why waste biological growth on organs that you aren't going to need for many years?

Anonymous No. 16633454 Report

>>16633447
> Newborns don't have the resources to raise offspring,
how do animal tribes become plentiful? they dont have resources they live in the wild and hunt for all their food why cant we? we even have government handouts

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Anonymous No. 16633455 Report

>>16633435
In the wild, we lived into our thirties, and those who were lucky to escape infection or mauling or disease lived to their 60s and 70s, maybe longer. Since then, we have spent millenia devoted to reducing mortality at all ages, dramatically extending life expectancy for everyone from fetuses to the elderly. With modern fertility treatments women can now become mothers in what was once old age for most.
There is no rational reason for any adult to want children to be more sexually available. It's freakish and deviant and disgusting. Teens explore sex with each other, adults have sex with adults.
And who cares if that's the natural order? The natural order is our massive heads so we can think and decide what our order ought to be according to morality. And reason tells us lots of reasons this kind of relationship is dangerous and harmful and just flat wrong, the role of adults with developing minds is to cultivate, not to be the pests eating the garden before it's ripe.
Use your big head, sapien. Be better.

Anonymous No. 16633459 Report

>>16633435
>And who cares if that's the natural order?
"That" being perverse attraction and general deviant breeding impulses such as the one you seem to be exhibiting. It does seem to be somewhat natural, especially in males, to just have a sort of omnidirectional sex drive. Especially in an ephebophilic context.
But it is NOT rational or healthy.
Just date a short woman your own age. If you can't pull, work on your personality.

Anonymous No. 16633463 Report

>>16633455
how is it not ripe if precocious puberty can happen at 3 years old?
also eventually civilization will collapse and we will lose our technology and go back to nature
>>16633459
but many guys on /pol/ and twitter tell me women are sexiest when 11-16 and men at 50-60
you cant debunk that, women love old dudes

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Anonymous No. 16633471 Report

>>16633463
>In the wild, we lived into our thirties, and those who were lucky to escape infection or mauling or disease lived to their 60s and 70s, maybe longer
Even if we returned to nature your creepy shit would not be necessary. Maybe there would be some teen pregnancies but they don't need to be by adults. People younger than that do not need to be sexually active, they will age into it while you age and die if for some unholy reason pedophiles survive the bombs. Repopulation will occur just fine. Your "rationale" is disgusting perverted obsession, and you should be better.
This conversation is over now.

Anonymous No. 16633475 Report

>>16633471
i might die but not before i force myself onto your daughter, humbert humbert style bitch

Anonymous No. 16633490 Report

>>16633363
>i want scientific explanation
Scientific explanation is that things just work the way they do and the proof is just look at them

Anonymous No. 16633695 Report

>>16633346
Not enough energy and body mass.

Anonymous No. 16633719 Report

>>16633346
Same reason we aren’t six foot tall at birth. Growing a fully matured organism is an involved process, especially the bigger and more complex it is. Very few organisms are born fully or even close to fully developed. Almost spend a not-insignificant fraction of their expected lifetime maturing and their different systems gradually changing. Humans live about 80 years and spend about 20 maturing, elephants in the wild live to about 40 and spend 10-15 years maturing, horses live 20-25 years in the wild and take 5-7 years to mature, etc.

Even for smaller animals with short lifespans and gestation periods like rodents, possums, etc. their maturation times are a few months vs a lifespan of a year or two in the wild.

Growing and changing a body is not something you can generally do quickly.

Anonymous No. 16633726 Report

>>16633719
18 year pregnancies. Easy solution. Cannot possibly foresee any downsides to this.

Anonymous No. 16633737 Report

>>16633726
>Congratulations anonette! It’s a baby boy - 6’2”, 180 lbs. We’ll get him cleaned up and then you can hold him. How are you feeling?
>KILL ME!!!

Anonymous No. 16633789 Report

26 and never actually had puberty, is it too late?

Anonymous No. 16635198 Report

>>16633430
>>16633432
Fisting is the fetish for intellectuals.