🧵 Why don't people accept climate change?
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:45:03 UTC No. 16633752
Even if some of the doomerism is blowing things out of proportion, there's so much evidence from expert scientists of rising carbon emissions accelerating temperature, yet I've seen many skeptics saying things like "it's still cold outside" or misquoting Judith Curry or "haha lib lies" or things like that. Is this a coping mechanism to accept the fact that we're headed for a disaster and they don't want to change their comfortable living habits?
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 15:07:12 UTC No. 16633843
It is a coping mechanism because they feel helpless and they don't think they can do anything about it.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 16:01:56 UTC No. 16633927
>>16633752
I used to be like that and the answer is mostly because of the politics surrounding it, and peoples refusal to think critically. I suppose I accepted at some level that climate change is real, but looked for any excuse to disregard it, like saying "we can't prove that humans cause it" or "it could be a good thing because it will increase the amount of arable land"
I didn't want to align with the libs on any topic. I didn't think too hard about these things before saying them and just believed it.
I still get pissed off when redditors blame every ecological event on climate change. Like yes, it might be involved to some extent, but it's rarely the full picture.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 16:09:35 UTC No. 16633939
>>16633843
What can you do about it?
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 16:11:12 UTC No. 16633941
>>16633752
Where I'm at the seasons seem displaced by at least a month. Some months are colder than average, like snow in April. Others are hotter on average, like shorts weather in October. It's hard to acknowledge warming when some months are colder than usual. Yearly, global averages are less intuitive than yearly local extremes.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 16:54:41 UTC No. 16633987
>>16633843
This. The forces causing climate change and decrease of arable land and water contamination and plastic buildup and ocean acidification and deforestation and mass extinction are the same forces that run the state.
Solving it is actually done already. We have solutions. They cost money to pay laborers to build them but we have them already and have for awhile.
Digging oil out of the ground is cheap and makes for fast growth, and people like having more plastic garbage and bigger sweeter cakes every year after the next.
We are not wired for long term planetary planning, we have to teach ourselves it, and education too is roped by the state and its leashers.
People feel unable to enact political change and fearful of lifestyle changes to accomodate not turning the whole planet into a smoking landfill, and so all these solvable problems become impossible.
>>16633939
We need a global singularly focused movement to tear down oiligarchy and stop/reverse all pollution immediately. Single, LOUD demand, everywhere on the planet.
We have already done enough science about it. It's time to plant trees and build new power stations and electrify everything and mass-produce biodegradable plastics and build carbon capture plants and honestly maybe just severely limit ocean fishing for awhile and pay stimulus to the fishers as compensation.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 16:57:29 UTC No. 16633990
>>16633987
The only thing on that list you as a person can actually do is plant a tree and even that will have barely an impact at all
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 17:16:42 UTC No. 16634003
>>16633990
It's not about fixing it on your own. It's about joining the cause and helping to wake up and herd and agitate people (which climate activists are doing terrible at right now). Grouping up with people to apply effort, devoting time to whatever movement in your country is best poised to grow and challenge the stability of the state enough to get effective environmental policy passed (and really no country is up to snuff yet), working with them will be a lot more impactful than planting trees.
Now if you want to plant trees or pick up trash or invest in green energy great, that's based. But we need regime change. Oil controls the governments of all the most powerful countries in the world and everyone else plays ball in their court so oil runs the world.
We have the technology to replace oil but we need the political will to spend enormous amounts of public money on it (and to stop dumping public money on the oil demons).
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 18:01:23 UTC No. 16634041
Why don't we live in pods yet tho? What is taking so long you cucks?
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 18:14:41 UTC No. 16634058
>>16633752
The climate was significantly hotter 5000 to 6000 years ago and everything was daijoubu.
I sleep.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 18:21:52 UTC No. 16634067
YOU made that hurricane CHUD. Their lives are on YOUR hands! All because you played video games and used less electricity than a fridge!
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 18:44:16 UTC No. 16634088
>>16634003
That collective effort would be better spent trying to engineer ways to cope with climate change desu
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 18:46:02 UTC No. 16634090
>>16633939
Throw dynamite at people that control international trade & finance.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 18:48:50 UTC No. 16634093
>>16633752
science still hasn't learned how to force people to trust its findings. much work remains to be done. I would suggest using the model adopted by the vatican for best results.
https://odysee.com/@Realfake_Newsou
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 18:57:43 UTC No. 16634100
>>16633752
if what they're saying is true
>glaciers receding
>previously permanently covered in snow peaks now are not permanently covered
to me it sounds as good enough empiric data, no?
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 19:28:41 UTC No. 16634125
>>16634088
Cessation and reversal has to be the end goal. Otherwise we end up living in biodomes on a slowly venusifying planet with an uninhabitable surface. We can and should do triage but healing the underlying fault has to be the main objective.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 20:12:19 UTC No. 16634168
>>16634100 here
just googled "glacier timelapse years", apparently some glaciers are expanding and some receeding. Conclussion, MOAR data is required.
Anon at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 20:38:53 UTC No. 16634188
Climate change is a natural process. Everything happens in cycles. But the way these libtard "scientists" are talking about climate change is as if it is something controlable. Its nature - get over it. Deserts used to be oceans and Europe was covered in ice.
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 20:38:54 UTC No. 16634189
>>16633752
because doomers are retarded and think we will have biblical floods or Earth turning into Venus from runaway greenhouse effect
there's not enough ice in ares that might melt to raise sea level more than a meter
there's not enough ice in ares on Earth sea level more than a couple of meters in (ALL ice, including areas that never get warmer than -30°C)
there's not enough CO2/methane to raise temperature to physiologically uninhabitable level anywhere
all coal already used to be CO2 in the atmosphere once for fuck sake
Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 20:48:57 UTC No. 16634202
>>16634189
>all coal already used to be CO2 in the atmosphere once for fuck sake
Look up "climate during the carboniferous period"
Anonymous at Tue, 1 Apr 2025 04:58:47 UTC No. 16634618
>>16633752
maybe there is a country that is completely depended on fossil fuel exports, isn't affected negatively by climate change and is very good at disinformation, propaganda and blackmailing. my guess is canada.
Anonymous at Tue, 1 Apr 2025 05:02:24 UTC No. 16634621
>>16634618
Based Venn diagrammatic
Anonymous at Tue, 1 Apr 2025 05:52:45 UTC No. 16634640
>>16633752
>>16633843
>>16634618
retard take
>>16634125
you are very, very special
Anonymous at Tue, 1 Apr 2025 07:10:37 UTC No. 16634695
>>16633752
There's a hbomberguy video about flat earth that has a pretty good explanation (the last segment if you want to go and take a look) on why "innocent" people believe in quackery like this. Basically they perceive a problem in society but due to low IQ they can't identify what that problem is and then usually either react by going full "team brain" (in this case climate change being false being the right team opinion) or by in general lashing out against all things they can't understand and authority in general (in this case climate change being true being the authority stance). People like this can't really be convinced by evidence or arguments which is why you should take the thread to /pol/.
Climate change opposition in particular is quite special in the field of quackery however since unlike more down to earth hoaxes (like say believing in bigfoot or spirit healing or what ever) where the previous 2 stances make up most of the believers, climate change has direct and massive financial incentives for it to not be true. Due to this there's a massive an organized effort to sow confusion and misinformation and for instance most of the threads and posts you see about it in here are directly made by spambots or by indians posting for the benefit of fossil fuel corporations. The opposition is entirely inorganic and only really serves to create the illusion that the debate is going on to attract the previous 2 types of low IQ people to their cause.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 10:31:07 UTC No. 16635892
>>16634695
You wrote so many words to say fucking nothing.
Global warming is a scam, simple as.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 11:05:35 UTC No. 16635918
>>16633752
Because it's a scam to steal your money and make billionaire politicians rich?
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 11:48:00 UTC No. 16635948
>>16634695
Whole lot of words for no conclusive proof of climate change there buck-o.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 14:26:53 UTC No. 16636066
>>16635892
>>16635948
Salty troglodytes