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Anonymous at Mon, 31 Mar 2025 23:59:45 UTC No. 16634342
Can reality still exist if there is no sentient mind left to perceive it? Do consciousness beget existence?
Anonymous at Tue, 1 Apr 2025 00:48:53 UTC No. 16634379
>>16634342
>Do consciousness beget existence?
Do grammar beget OP?
No to both.
Anonymous at Tue, 1 Apr 2025 00:56:22 UTC No. 16634390
>>16634342
>Can reality still exist if there is no sentient mind left to perceive it?
This is a silly question.
Anonymous at Tue, 1 Apr 2025 01:08:59 UTC No. 16634404
>>16634390
Weak Inverse Anthropic Principle - If we're not there to observe the universe then it gets whack af.
Strong Inverse Anthropic Principle - The universe wanted to get whack af and made sure we wouldn't be around to bother it.
Anonymous at Tue, 1 Apr 2025 01:10:09 UTC No. 16634409
>>16634390
You have to define 'silly'
Anonymous at Tue, 1 Apr 2025 01:16:54 UTC No. 16634420
>>16634342
On one hand everything points towards that minds and consciousness emerged from unfeeling and unthinking physical stuff and that the world doesn't revolve around them. On the other hand, it's not clear what would be the difference between if there had been a physical universe where no consciousness ever emerged vs. no physical universe or anything existing at all. Upon reflection, statements about physical events not experienced by anyone are typically meaningful to the extent they can be thought as counterfactual statements about experience ("Somebody could have experienced this or that if they had been there") or in some other way relate them to experience. Physics can get very abstract, but ultimately it's something that we conclude to exist "physically" rather than being a purely hypothetical mathematical construct because it's a claim about mathematical patterns derived from our sensory experience that we feel viscerally.
The best resolution that I have heard of is in my opinion Tegmark's idea that physical existence at the end of the day is nothing but mathematical constructs that exist merely by the virtue of being mathematically possible. And somehow sensory experience rises from this with logical inevitably as well, from certain possible mathematical structures... As hard as it is to imagine.
Anonymous at Tue, 1 Apr 2025 01:47:48 UTC No. 16634481
>>16634409
Fair enough.