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🧵 /scg/ - STEM career general

Anonymous No. 16635710

world superpower edition

Previous Thread: >>16597487

This thread exists to ask questions regarding careers associated to STEM.
>Discussion on academia-based career progression
>Discussion on penetrating industry from academia
>Or anything in relation to STEM employment or development within STEM academia!

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Anonymous No. 16635711

Surely asked a million times but what industry wants a pure math phd

Anonymous No. 16635719

>>16635711
Lmao. Teach high school

Anonymous No. 16636077

It's so funny watching white collar libtards lean into white supremacy to justify their inflated living standards.
>B-b-but Indians can't do our jobs....they're supposed to be racially inferior and unable to threaten me!!!
You wanted globalism, you got globalism. I guess you're the white trash now.

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Anonymous No. 16636160

>>16635710
Hi. I'm in Europe and I just graduated in physics (bachelor). I did a thesis on particle physics data analysis and simulation and I am very good and knowledgeable at programming and linux systems. What's my best shot for a good job in the short term in my case, while I study for my master? And I don't mean mcdonalds or something unrelated to what I am good at.
Thanks

Anonymous No. 16636371

>>16635711
Actuary, Insurance

Anonymous No. 16636373

>>16636160
What do you mean by best shot? You are a fulltime student thst has to go to university, you best shot is working in software/data analytics/semiconductors/materials/optics somewhere close to where you live.

Anonymous No. 16636577

I recently started a PhD in physics. What should I specialize in if I want to go into defense?

Anonymous No. 16636591

>>16636577
Agalmic constructs

Anonymous No. 16636596

>>16636577
Embedded systems, radar/telcom, sensors, (quantum) metrology, high-speed dynamic systems, anything to do with aerodynamics, kryptography, AI/image processing, maybe accoustics, maybe materials science

Anonymous No. 16636603

>>16636596
optoelectronics/semiconductors too

Anonymous No. 16636611

>>16636577
Don't go for any embedded infrasystem since Over The Wire is already sufficient to weaponize.

Anonymous No. 16636614

>>16636596
Acoustics fine, everything else gets them killed. You really need to deconflate if you want to live safely.

Anonymous No. 16636660

>>16636614
Don't listen to this esl retard (probably a pajeet). 95% of tech innovation and growth in the defense/space is currently happening in anything electronics/radar/telcom related.

Anonymous No. 16636664

>>16636660
>95%
Herd immunity kills 5%, you're telling a physicist to ignore a future ratio.

Anonymous No. 16636666

>>16636664
Notice how he didn't deny being a pajeet

Anonymous No. 16636669

>>16636666
Wasn't necessary, assumptions in my vicinity are taken to have been war crimes.

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Anonymous No. 16636947

how do i pivot away from embedded systems and into RF or semiconductors?
i'm an american EE undergrad and all of my project experience so far has been in embedded, so the only responses i ever get when applying for internships are for the ones doing embedded embedded stuff. all of the ones relating to RF or semiconductors never respond to me or deny me without bothering with a phone screen.
i'm graduating next year and i don't want to design washing machines for the rest of my life, so what are some good ways to get my foot into the door of the RF or semiconductor spheres?
any suggestions on how i could spin my embedded experience (digital circuit design, pcb design, firmware) into something that would catch the interest of whatever hiring managers are looking for in RF or semiconductor companies would also be appreciated

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Anonymous No. 16636969

Can I e-mail a lab at my college in ask for some open position as an undergraduate despite having no relevant nor irrelevant experience?

What are some of the prerequisites?

Anonymous No. 16637358

>>16636969
>Can I e-mail a lab at my college in ask for some open position as an undergraduate despite having no relevant nor irrelevant experience?
Yes
>What are some of the prerequisites?
It helps if you know the professor(s) running the lab and/or are in the same department.

Anonymous No. 16637413

>>16636160
Defense sector. Get into nukes.

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Anonymous No. 16637438

Studying EE in Germany with specialization in mechatronics and automation technology
Am if fucked ?
Will probably take around three more years until i finish my diploma
My college also offers master courses with focus in information technology (optoelectronics, industrial measurement technology)
Would that be a good choice ?
> Am 110IQ brainlet

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Anonymous No. 16637456

How many publications did you have in high school?

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Anonymous No. 16637513

>crunch PE Exam questions the last 3 days before taking the exam
>I pass
Did I just get lucky or is the PE exam is a joke?

Anonymous No. 16637517

How is the job market belgium, netherlands for someone with MS in EE ?

I plan on applying to KU leuven, TU eindhoven, Dleft, Ughent....is it worth it anon or should I try for germany ?

Anonymous No. 16637704

For all the white people out there, hope you have certification in a skilled trade and a factory job because construction based college was never white.

The race with the most physical strength is not supposed to sit in an office.

Maybe you should study the science of assembling a car because these tariffs will give you a factory to practice that

Anonymous No. 16637743

>>16636969
I guess I have to astral-stalk them enough in their dreams for them to register me as a familiar face. Will do, thanks.

Anonymous No. 16637865

>>16637456
I work with highscoolers (as free labor) for my research
only one gets their name added
this is how I got my first publication

Anonymous No. 16637868

>>16637865
some context:
>250k grant
>combined wet/informatics lab (most of my time is sending samples in for sequencing)
>enrolled wiz kid highschoolers take sophomore lvl courses
>in exchange, they work sample prep
produces results, gives legit skills in exchange for credit hours, free poster opportunity for writing out their own research goals based on the qPCR data, and whoever does esp well can get a free ride
far better than undergrads or adjunct RAs, I fucking hate the adjuncts. Animal care still needs adjuncts or undergrads.

Anonymous No. 16638351

>>16637438
I'm a postdoc in slightly related field. My observation is the more you stay in academic, the poor you become. Idgaf about science anymore lmao.

Anonymous No. 16638439

>>16636577 >>16636603
Solid state is a super safe specialization that can also secure you a good job in the semiconductor industry. If the new fabs end up being built, there will be a lot more demand for specialists.

Anonymous No. 16638442

>>16636947
You can get a /ham/ license and leverage your DSP/FPGA/embedded skills in making a transceiver and post the works on Github. Try to apply some DSP techs from mobile phone tech to the project. Strangely, radios have not much taken advantage of the last 20 years of mobile phone tech.
Having proven results work well with risk averse companies.

Anonymous No. 16638480

A couple weeks ago I started a job working on a major nuclear fusion project. I'm kind of like a project controls analyst combined with a data engineer where we are trying to figure out how to get all these parts for the reactor fabricated that no one actually knows how to build because it has never been done before.
This is a contract so the job won't last forever. It could be over in two years unless if I decide not to stay.
This is such a niche field right now that going into another nuclear fusion job is going to be next to impossible. Do you think I can still leverage working on a project like this to get hired doing some other similar giant engineering project?
Two years isn't very far away as I get older. What should I be doing to make sure I'm prepared to find another job when this one ends?

Anonymous No. 16638572

>>16635710
I'm almost done with my physics bachelors.
I was gonna join the military before Trump was elected but now I don't know what to do. Any advice?

Anonymous No. 16638622

>>16638572
Why would you join the military after going to college and not the other way round. Are you fucking retarded?

Anonymous No. 16638658

>>16638622
want to be a pilot

Anonymous No. 16638794

>>16637456

I assume anything like that reddit post is ragebait.

Didn't have a publication out until the third year of my PhD, did said degree and a subsequent postdoc at global elite universities. Then my career died but that was unrelated to whatever I did at high school. Amerishart uni admissions are a clusterfuck though.

Anonymous No. 16638806

I've decided to get an MBA. I feel humiliated and ashamed.

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Anonymous No. 16638898

>Got into STEM
>Did Bachelors, Engineering
>Doing masters, science, with a company that's closely tied to the university
>They want me to "optimize" a system
>3 months pass, no data, nothing, can't go into lab because need to do extra safety course
>Do that safety course, get insurance and all sorted out
>Behold, their "system"
>It is held together by nothing but duct tape, spite and bad decisions
>Can't even call it craftsmanship at this point
>They couldn't even bother to get the damn thing working
>Nowhere in my contract it is stated I have to get their damn thing working, only to optimize it
>No labels, nothing documented
>Go through with it with one of the workers of the company
>Safety sensor should've been calibrated a month ago
>"Anon could you do that?"
>Have to calibrate it with reactive gas, fume hood is entirely unusable as it has been used as a storage
>These fuckers won't do it, that's for sure
>Somehow work around all the fucking junk they store in the fume hoods
>Back to the system
>Stuff like electrical components connected to the socket, no grounding connected, enclosure for the electrical component is made from metal
>Sits upon, you guessed it, a bigger component made of metal
>Get shocked while working with it, have electrician called as I may have to work with something explosive as well
>Thank god, a competent craftsman!
>He remakes it, correctly, no more shocks
>Go through the system again
>Leaks upon leaks
>Measurements all wrong
>"Just use a dilution factor bro"
>mfw
>Start calling them out for their bullshit, have a craftsman background and spent time with metal workers (rough bunch)
>Start telling them exactly what can go and will eventually go wrong, raise legitimate safety concerns
>Possibility of gassing myself with something very unpleasant
>Try to get the leak fixed, impossible with limited resources and tools available
>They have multiple times ignored their assistants requests for inexpensive yet useful things
(1/2)

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Anonymous No. 16638904

>>16638898
(2/2)
>Get really mad, outright refuse to work in such an environment
>"Anon some thing you must just tolerate"
>Basically insinuate that they are incompetent without saying so directly
>At least I got the assistants the tools they requested (plus a little extra to make their life easier)
>Get called in, told to keep a "positive atmosphere"
>Tell them it goes both ways - there's nothing positive about any of this
>Can't get any data because the system they want me to run is a ticking time bomb
>"But we've ran it before without issue"
>Translation: "We ran it before and got lucky"
>Store their gas masks in a box, no idea when the filters were installed
>Just sitting there, in a box, open to the moisture, attached to the gas masks
>Can't find replacement filters anywhere - work environment is chaotic af
>Call them out on this as well
>Give up and buy a gas mask, from my own money, because the condition of their PPE is atrocious
>Now they're trying to pressure me to do the experiments on that death trap of a system within a month cause they need the safety sensor for testing something else
>oh yeah, no emergency shutoff, "just pull the plug bro"
>Know of many things that could help them render the system safe, tell them, they decided to ignore it
>The lab is shared, so when something inevitably go wrong, some uninvolved people will have a VERY bad day
>Start missing the lab I've worked in my previous university, which was clean, well maintained and everything
>Think often about the lab I planned/purpose-built for somebody, into which I put an extreme amount of detail
I cannot even start to describe the amount of contempt I have for these people. Is it not the responsibility of the company/university to provide an acceptable and safe work environment? Is it not the responsibility of the company to have their shit together?

>>16638806
I'd say you should, but after all I've been through in the last few months, an MBA quite possibly is the safer option

Anonymous No. 16638918

>>16638572
>>16638658
>physics bachelors
yeah the military is probably one of the least worst options available to you desu, especially if you go aviation. who the president is won't have much of a practical effect your day to day life so there's no harm in spending an afternoon looking into it
for aviation, bogidope & flyingsquadron (airforce), and airwarriors (navy) are going to be the best way to learn about the the whole process, though /meg/ on /k/ isn't a bad resource either
your best bet is probably going navy since they are an order of magnitude less selective than anything airforce (it's like a ~50% selection rate vs a ~1% selection rate). army WOFT also exists if you want to enlist rather than commission, but if you have a degree i don't really see the point. marines and commissioned army suck ass, dont do them. don't go to enlisted recruiters, look for officer ones, stay far far away from anything nuke, etc etc i could go on forever. you're going to have to do a fuck-ton of research and work on your own before you're ready to send a packet in so you better get started now

Anonymous No. 16638934

>>16638898
>Nowhere in my contract it is stated I have to get their damn thing working, only to optimize it
This is rather common. Project staff might have lied to management, declaring that "it works!" when it at best just shorts out. Then management exclaim it is time to optimize, and project staff says "uh huh" while backing slowly out of the office, and starts brushing up their LinkedIn profile. By the time you got there, the most guilty had already evacuated.

Anonymous No. 16638970

>>16638934
I need the name of that person, a strong rope of hemp and a lamp post...
Disgusting. Utterly disgusting.

Anonymous No. 16638989

>>16638904
In my imagination what happens is I get the MBA and then immediately get propelled into upper management and never have to do this tedious engineering grunt work ever again.
The more likely outcome is I get the MBA, never even sniff management, and the degree becomes this embarrassing thing that I intentionally leave off my resume. I just feel restless like I need to be doing something. It feels like a hail mary and I don't even know why I'm doing it. I think I'm having a midlife crisis.

Anonymous No. 16639001

>>16638989
I know of an "engineer" who went that route, became CEO of a company. He was, however, utterly retarded and a displeasure to work with. Thought that telling an engineer that their "anodizing facility does not use coolant" ... we laughed our asses off when he was gone. Turns out it was leaking an illegal coolant.
But that is now a problem for the EPA.
I also know of another MBA who simply does administrative stuff. I like that one. It's mundane work, but somebody has to do it.

Anonymous No. 16639005

>>16638989
Also
>In my imagination what happens is I get the MBA and then immediately get propelled into upper management
This would honestly explain all the utter retards in upper management. I know the content of the MBA courses. They're a joke.

Anonymous No. 16639013

>>16635710
Hi, I have a master's degree in chemistry.
Is there any future career path if I do a PhD in inorganic chemistry revolving around metal organic frameworks that actually do the antipathogenic activity and aren't just vehicles of drug delivery?

I'm currently doing a diploma in education, which is 4 years of pain a bachelors degree in education called PGDE, condensed into 1 year.
My god, do I absolutely hate the shit out of this diploma program.
As soon as I am done with this, it's straight into PhD.

Anonymous No. 16639020

>>16637456
Two but I have yet to get help on how to publish them. fu

One is based on my master's degree research:
Ruthenium poylpyridyl complexes with antibacterial and anti diabetic properties. The research was, making one compound to treat more than one disease.

The other is about a method of synthesising a cyclic urea compound.
There was scant literature on its synthesis save for one from 1969, where the researchers used Benzene as a solvent in an inert atmosphere using nitrogen gas. Their yield was 36 %.
Abysmal and a waste of reagents!

Another was more recent, from 2018 but it reported its extraction from a species of sea sponge found off the coast of the Red Sea.

My experimental method used a mixture of toluene and ethanol and the yield was 79%.

Anonymous No. 16639028

>>16638989
No with an MBA and an engineer degree you're likely to be pushed into management positions.

Anonymous No. 16639035

>>16638898
>>16638904
have you documented everything you talked about? make sure to cover your ass if something bad does happen. I'll wait for the USCSB animation on youtube.

Anonymous No. 16639038

>>16639035
Every time I notice a thing like that, I take picture with timestamp. And I have a document called "Hall of Shame" where I order the offenses with descriptions.
>USCSB animation
Darling, I'm not in the USA. Although I have to work with some people from there...

I don't want to become a statistic because people are too fucking incompetent to do their work properly :(

Anonymous No. 16639040

So is getting a job just going to be impossible now?

Anonymous No. 16639044

>>16639040
no but its soul sucking and very difficult

Anonymous No. 16639114

>>16638970
>Disgusting
Yes, and since it is common, Dilbert will go on for years.

Anonymous No. 16639140

>>16639114
We need another revolution...

Anonymous No. 16639161

How are you guys not getting jobs? I legit don’t get it.

I think you are all applying for these dream job positions with fortune 50 companies or national labs or something and then whining because you aren’t nailing that shit right out of college. Oh no! You might have to pay some dues and work at some mom n pop company.

You all fancy yourselves super genius innovator Tony stark motherfuckers but really you are just the average STEM foot soldier keeping human civilization coherent. And there is nothing wrong with that, there is nothing wrong with being a vertebrae in the spine of what we currently have. Some reason, you all take affront to doing the menial, but important, things. Not content to being quiet creators, all longing for something grandiose even though you aren’t worthy.

Anonymous No. 16639181

>>16639161
>20$ has been added to your HR account

Anonymous No. 16639290

>>16638622
Retarded is what you have to be to go enlisted

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16639293

i dont want a stem career, i just want enough money to move away from niggers and have a peaceful life, cant i have some way to do it without inconveniencing actual passionate bigbrains?

Anonymous No. 16639294

>>16637438
I'm an EE and I've worked as an automation engineer in the US for over 15 years now. it's great. Germans use Siemens PLCs so get to learning those anon.

Anonymous No. 16639297

>>16639161
that's probably the vocal minority you are hearing. I unironically don't hate my job, it's a means to an end, thank god my boss and team are decent, etc. but I am blessed in that I have no debt, no children, rent is fairly cheap where I am at

Anonymous No. 16639461

>>16639290
Wrong, I’ve mentioned this in previous threads.

Going officer is the superior choice if and ONLY IF you make it a career. If you are just doing a one shot 4-5 year stint, enlisted is better.

Anonymous No. 16639508

>>16639161
A lot of biologically inferior males study STEM as a betabux reproductive strategy, so gunning for high status jobs is just a part of their broader plan and that's why it's extremely personal to them when they can't get those positions.
That's why you see so much grandiosity from STEMcels. It isn't that they actually think they are geniuses or have some Iron Man fantasy, it's that they are status striving.

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Anonymous No. 16639538

>>16639161
I dunno either you apply and just nothing happens, Im not trying to work at Tesla or whatever

Anonymous No. 16639563

>>16639538
Kek.
A few months ago when everyone was hysterical over the federal job cuts, out of no where I got these emails from usajobs.gov about how the positions I applied for had been cancelled because of Hitler 2 and it was written in this helpless "so this is how democracy dies" tone.
I had no idea what they were talking about so I logged in and realized the "cancelled jobs" were jobs I had applied for in 2022 and that I had been "under consideration" for them since then.

Anonymous No. 16639568

>>16639508
>A lot of biologically inferior males study STEM as a betabux reproductive strategy
What? I have never met anyone fitting that description by a wide margin. Status strivers go for business or law degrees.

Anonymous No. 16639672

>>16639568
You've never met a biologically inferior male in STEM by a wide margin. Ok. Kek.
Business is a chad/stacey degree. The only people who study business are massive extroverts. By some coincidence the degree that focuses on socialization is also known as the party degree. It's the opposite of an incel degree.
Law degrees aren't for status strivers, they are for people who already come from high status families. You have to be a total moron burnout to study law/medicine with a working class background, barely anyone tries to make that leap because it's a recipe for enormous debt.

Anonymous No. 16639700

>>16639672
>You've never met a biologically inferior male in STEM by a wide margin. Ok. Kek.
you forgot the second part, "as a betabux reproductive strategy".

Anonymous No. 16639821

>>16639508
>chose a biochemistry degree because I'm too dumb for physics
>chose to go into drug discovery & cancer for career prospects
>chose a breast cancer PhD over other cancers because I thought it would score me some feminism points
Yeah this describes me pretty well. I am the definition of a beta male. I didn't set out with this intent when I was 18 though, just kind of slid into it over the years.

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Anonymous No. 16639901

>>16639161
You again?

Anonymous No. 16639929

so what happens when you manage to get a STEM degree but you're too dumb to hold a STEM job?

Anonymous No. 16639949

>>16639929
You get a job outside STEM. What form this takes depends on some factors. My university was prestigious, so a good chunk of the cohort went to consultancies of various forms where they can sell prestige. A few people went to civil service and patent law, they were quite capable though.

Back in my one horse home town there were news stories about people with astrophysics PhDs handing out parking tickets etc. because they were not qualified for shit and not connected or whatever.

I currently have a STEM job and my coworkers are pretty dumb so I don't really think being too dumb for STEM is likely to be an issue.

Anonymous No. 16640516

>>16639949
Aren't consultancies a STEM job? I thought they do all the plans and calculations for whatever shit is gonna be made, sounds like doing a big university project.

Anonymous No. 16640673

>>16639700
How would you even know their motivation for studying STEM? Oh that's right you don't.

Anonymous No. 16640679

>>16639929
This happens more often than you think thanks to the massive dumbing down of education standards in service of the massive liberal delusion that everyone is equal.
If you are afflicted by this then what you have to do is bounce from job to job until you finally find a place that is tolerant enough to keep you on board. Generally you are looking for Fortune 500 companies with so much diffusion of responsibility that you can slip through the cracks and not be noticed too much.

Anonymous No. 16640682

>>16639949
The problem with dumb STEM coworkers is they are simultaneously convinced that they are highly intelligent by virtue of being STEM.
This is an unshakeable conviction too because it's something they've built their entire identity around. No amount of error will put even a dent in their inflated sense of ability.
What ends up happening is you work with incredibly stubborn people who are incapable of learning ANYTHING and sound insane when they talk because they are floundering in stuff that's way over their head and you have no way to reach them. It's an absolutely brutal work environment.

Anonymous No. 16640703

>>16639929
If you’re /fit/ and can handle being outdoors, you get a field STEM job where all the people who know stuff are in an office 9000 miles away and you simply have to be their eyes, ears, and hands.

I’m retarded and get paid really good money to just hang out in the woods and send emails.

Anonymous No. 16640718

>>16640516
There are many forms of consultancy. The closest I got to considering that career path was a scientific consultancy where at least it was presented to me as basically R&D for hire. On the other end of the spectrum you have management consultancy and their ilk, who generally have nothing to do with science but who still like to hire STEM grads from prestigious universities. Many of my PhD cohort went to some "energy consultancy" type places which I got the impression were somewhere in between. Maybe the subject matter is a bit more science-adjacent, but the day-to-day is not and the "hard" STEM skillsets are not in use.

Anonymous No. 16640850

>>16640718
Most actual “consultants” are niche shops. Stuff like vibrations, energy efficiency, constructability, weldments, specific chemistry, etc. These kinds of topics are so specific that you can’t just find an SME off the street somewhere, and if you could, you aren’t going to hire that person full time because you’d use them twice a year AND these consultants invest in expensive tools and software that, unless you do that stuff full time like they do, straight up ain’t worth it.

Anonymous No. 16640852

There are many forms of stinkyness. The closest I got to considering that stinky path was a stinky consultancy where at least it was presented to me as basically stinky for hire. On the other end of the stinky you have management stinkyness and their ilk, who generally have nothing to do with stinkyness but who still like to hire STINKY grads from stinky universities. Many of my stinky cohort went to some "stinky consultancy" type places which I got the impression were somewhere in between. Maybe the stinky matter is a bit more stinky-adjacent, but the day-to-day is not and the "hard" STINKY skillsets are not in use.

Anonymous No. 16640857

>>16640850
To build on this, many design firms call themselves “consultants” because a lot of the deliverables weren’t design packages. They were “studies” that would investigate a specific problem or explore the feasibility of a certain project without actually getting into detailed design or mobilizing an entire design team. A LOT of times it’s just one thorn in their ass problem that’s a result of some other designers work that they want fixed.

Anonymous No. 16642684

I make 50k a year (36k after taxes). I live in a cluttered dilapidated one-bedroom flat with an half-employed overweight female, don't have a car or even a washing mashine. I barely manage to save anything most months.

I'm 31, with a physics PhD working in industry. I've basically busted my ass since I was a teenager.

Give me one scientific reason to not experimentally test the Official Table of Drops.

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Anonymous No. 16642765

>>16639161
I've never had a job bro, what am I supposed to do with my masters degree at 30?

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Anonymous No. 16642899

>be me
>2nd year postdoc in USA (biochem)
>Absolute shitshow with science funding getting yanked left and right
>LinkedIn is 90% academics seething at NSF and NIH freezes
>see supervisor get noticably more stressed and irritable over last 2 months
>guess that tenure track not looking so likely now
>otherwise group is an absolute shit-show with no real research direction
>everyone kinda does whatever and nothing actually gets done
>Entire group of 5 postdocs, 3 PhDs and 1 masters student only has 5 publications in last 2 years, plus a few minor collaborations with other groups
>new zoomer PhD and masters students are comically inept (have massive gaps in fundamental knowledge of subject)
>whenever I ask them to do something they always say they have class (I suspect they can't be fucked to learn how to use the instruments despite me and supervisor repeatedly offering to teach them) so ends up being quicker for me to run most of the experiments myself
>2 of the postdocs are always fighting over the most trivial shit (group meetings often end with them calling each other out over retarded & pedantic experimental details)
>supervisor thinks its cute to send sassy emails once a week about random shit he was thinking about (literal reddit-tier shower thoughts about the research) making sure that projects never get finished because he always wants to include 'just one more experiment'
ngl I think it's time for me to peace out for a job in industry

Anonymous No. 16642901

i wanna do a stem bashlors at 31

Anonymous No. 16642902

>>16642901
Do it man, you'll be behind some coworkers but it's still not too late.

Anonymous No. 16642904

>>16642902
is there a way to do it stress free i dont want to age faster, one of my goals is looking youthful as i get older. thinking electrical engineering.

Anonymous No. 16642911

do engineering classes have cute gurls :)

Anonymous No. 16642952

>>16642911
Sure if you go into biomedical engineering

Anonymous No. 16642955

>>16642684
because i'll miss you and your posts.

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Anonymous No. 16642968

Aussie here. Sick of wasting my life working as a car mechanic, looking at the possibility of working full time and studying part time. From what I've found so far, I could probably do an Associate Degree in Engineering through mostly online means, but I'm not entirely sure what kind of jobs that would open up for me.

I did well in school and got good final grades, but that was 15 years ago now so I'll obviously have to brush up on stuff like math. I've done a bit of hobby-tier programming, I have experience with most of the electromechanical systems that all modern cars are equipped with, so I guess I'm looking for possible university courses that I can apply those skills to.
Ideally I'd prefer to end up in a job where I'm either designing or maintaining embedded systems, plant mechatronics, or similar "practical" applications of mechanical and electrical knowledge, but I'm not really sure where to start.

tl;dr - how do I into engineering degree/job while working full time in Australia?

Anonymous No. 16643083

>>16642904
>thinking electrical engineering
Well I didn't look older personally when I was going through, but as soon as I got a job I started greying. It will NOT be stress free, you're going to have to put in the hours to get an EE degree. Well worth it though.

Anonymous No. 16643148

>>16642968
>associates

I’m not an Aussie but here in burger land, an associates in engineering a glorified trades degree where you end up being a technician somewhere. Yeah it’ll be more involved than being a mechanic but not by much.

Anonymous No. 16643150

>>16635710
How cringe is it to start medical school (MD, not DO) at 30 if you were a basket-weaving basket case beforehand? I know I can't be a nuclear physicist or Erdos-tier mathematician, but I think it's still possible to become a radiologist if I try hard enough.

Anonymous No. 16643152

>>16642901
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. You will never retire. Even if you graduate at 35, you still have another thirty (30) fucking years of career ahead of you: most people land in their forever position after 8-10, so you’ll be 45. Guess what? You would still be there at 35. Makes no difference.

Anonymous No. 16643155

>>16642765
Autism or entitlement? You are supposed to have worked some shit jobs a couple points in your life before you got a degree. It’s proves you are capable of showing up on time and working with other real human people. Go get a job at Starbucks or something for 6 months and learn how to be an adult.

Anonymous No. 16643164

>>16642968
Controls and PLCs. Every factory/plant has these things. Look for jobs at industrial plants and factories that need a controls engineer. If you know how a PID loop works you are 90% there.

If this video makes sense to you, you have learned. https://youtu.be/bZe5J8SVCYQ?si=B7ceWZvmRzMeI8H_

Anonymous No. 16643235

>>16643155
Working shit jobs is a literal waste of life. If you have to then you have to. But if you have options e.g. going to university sooner then you definitely should just do that.

At no point after graduating did I even list my shit job experience on my CV. Nobody gives a shit about experience that is not related to the job.

Anonymous No. 16643371

>>16643235
Even if you don’t list it, people can tell you haven’t been employed before. It shows up in interviews.

Anonymous No. 16643383

>>16642684
>have a gf
>complains
You are just a failed normie with a PhD.

Anonymous No. 16643419

>>16643371

Upper middle and upper class people will label you as a serf once they hear you've worked wagie jobs. They do not see the working class as the same species, even if they do not admit it and maybe are themselves not even aware of just how skewed their perception is.

Anonymous No. 16643423

>>16643383
This is a career general, for NEET/incel inverse dick measuring go to /r9k/.

Anonymous No. 16643677

>>16643419
Every fortune 50 company I’ve worked for (several), the C-suite was mostly workaholic ladder climbing psychopaths who came from pretty humble beginnings shining shoes or waiting tables or something. I don’t know what decade you’ve been hiding in, but having a MUH BOOTSTRAPS origin story is in vogue.