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Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 08:19:48 UTC No. 16635803
Clearly, it's not social contagion, right?
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 08:40:16 UTC No. 16635817
>>16635803
>identifying
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 08:44:08 UTC No. 16635824
>>16635803
something something left handed people therefore I masturbate staring at myself in the mirror while crossdressing
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 18:22:02 UTC No. 16636277
>>16635803
You have to prove reliable replication of supposed contagion vector anyway, why post here if it were?
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 18:55:57 UTC No. 16636332
Rigorously define social contagion without stealing the definition for meme.
Also articulate whether your definition allows for exposure to something causing the spread of behaviors or whether the spread of behaviors could be conditional upon how people engaging in those behaviors are treated by society.
Also explain what "it" refers to. How people identify to others? Behavior? How people identify to themselves?
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 19:17:05 UTC No. 16636354
>>16636332
>NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST ASK US TO LABEL THE TREND!!!!!!!!
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 19:20:58 UTC No. 16636363
>>16635803
Only .015% of the population are born intersex. I'm one of those unlucky people. All the others are just fucking pretenders.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 19:52:34 UTC No. 16636408
>>16635803
>thing becomes more socially acceptable
>more people express it in public
the handiwork of der crafty juden….
>>16636363
WAYYY more than 0.015% niglet
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 19:56:28 UTC No. 16636413
>>16636408
>digit ratios as a proof of anything
Pseudoscience long confirmed.
>WAYYY more than 0.015% niglet
You're right it's 0.018%. Unless we include people who picked up a doll once, therefore aren't boys anymore. (or a car if you are XX chromosomal).
Keep coping your propagandized fool. And remember. Don't have children. Unless you're Israeli.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:06:28 UTC No. 16636419
>>16636408
>Or it could simply be the influence of the social environment
No matter how much gatekeeping happens in that field, that prenatal hormonal theory won’t hold up once we have enough data. But then again, you’ll just find another narrative to justify your existence.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:09:08 UTC No. 16636422
>>16636354
>NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST ASK US TO LABEL THE TREND!!!!!!!!
If that was all you were doing, nobody would give a shit.
Nobody is claiming there isn't a trend and you can label shit whatever the fuck you want. Call this shit Bob if you want to.
Literally all I did was ask you what you meant by social contagion if anything at all. If it's just a label, go off, king.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:09:50 UTC No. 16636424
>>16636413
>XXY and other genetic intersex disorders arent intersex because… uhh… THEY JUST ARENT OK?
And you aren’t a downie just because you have a few extra ‘somes.
>>16636419
>trust me bro you will be proven wrong just 1 more study bro BELIEVE ME TRUST ME BRO ITS FAKE BRO BELIEVE ME
if it’s wrong then prove it nigger
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:10:12 UTC No. 16636425
>>16635803
perhaps people are more ready to admit they are trans than in the past due to social stigma
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:11:19 UTC No. 16636428
Here's the source
https://www.generationtechblog.com/
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:19:38 UTC No. 16636442
>>16636424
>XXY and other genetic intersex disorders arent intersex because
because they aren't you fucking tard. Neither does having fucking up hormones because of glands.
and the number is .018 with a variation of .015. If you include all those other conditions (which no one should because they aren't intersex) it's 1.7%.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:22:19 UTC No. 16636446
>>16636428
>dissertation presentation
>"fascinating, anon. What is the source on the data you base these claims on?"
>"this random tech blog with stock images on it"
>"remarkably sturdy work!"
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:25:59 UTC No. 16636450
>>16636424
If you include shit like downs or jacobs syndrome they don't change the sexual characteristics at all, so why would you include them? Same thing for adrenal glands that might affect the size of someone's genitals but not change from sex to sex. That's completely different than being born with both sets of external and internal male/female parts that will dramatically altered everything about a person.
That's why you don't include those other conditions. They aren't actually intersex. You kinda need the parts.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:39:24 UTC No. 16636470
>>16635803
Maybe it's because for the first time in history they're allowed to express themselves as they truly are?
No it must be chemicals turning the freaking frogs gay
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:40:34 UTC No. 16636472
>>16636332
First please define what you mean by "rigorously", and give us the definition of meme so anon doesn't accidentally copy it. Also please define what you mean by "exposure" and "spread of behaviors", and elaborate on what you mean by "treated by society" (very vague phrase). Also please define "identify"
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:41:34 UTC No. 16636476
>>16636446
The article shows where the data comes from though
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:42:02 UTC No. 16636478
>>16636470
>No it must be chemicals
>gonads don't produce different chemicals
hur durr
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:42:50 UTC No. 16636481
>>16636472
>subbing this convo
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:53:04 UTC No. 16636496
>>16636442
>>16636450
>it doesn’t count because it just doesn’t, ok?
Cool
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:55:28 UTC No. 16636499
>>16636472
>First please define what you mean by "rigorously", and give us the definition of meme so anon doesn't accidentally copy it
Dictionaries exist. I wouldn't be asking if social contagion were in one.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dic
tl;dr google is your friend
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:57:48 UTC No. 16636501
>>16636499
>>16636472
Oh, but maybe I should check an encyclopedia. Nope. Still no luck.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soci
>Scholars have long reported that the study of social contagion has suffered from the lack of a widely accepted and precise definition.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:57:52 UTC No. 16636502
>>16636496
are you fucking illiterate?
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:58:11 UTC No. 16636503
>>16636499
https://dictionary.apa.org/social-c
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:58:58 UTC No. 16636504
>>16636332
Rigorously define every word in your post.
Until then I just read it as, 'trans rights is population control.'
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:00:56 UTC No. 16636506
>>16636470
>Environmental factors lowering testosterone for decades prior. Endocrine disruptors everywhere
NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
ALSO COULD NOT BE A FAD LIKE FASHION AND MUSIC GO THROUGH.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:03:58 UTC No. 16636507
>>16636503
Keeping this in a buffer
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:04:02 UTC No. 16636508
>>16636503
>the spread of behaviors, attitudes, and affect through crowds and other types of social aggregates from one member to another
Not a social contagion then. Glad we sorted that out. Frankly given that definition I don't even know why you'd ask.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:05:08 UTC No. 16636509
>>16636504
Show your reading
Not even for the sake of science, I want to see if you can make something which looks half honest
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:07:07 UTC No. 16636512
We need a treatment for the social contagion of transphobia. Possibly conversion therapy.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:10:04 UTC No. 16636515
>>16636512
There is a whole board for this. Literally one step:
>convince me it is not shit today
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:12:21 UTC No. 16636516
>>16636508
How so?
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:13:50 UTC No. 16636518
>>16636516
You are already filtered:
>neither affect nor either other
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:15:20 UTC No. 16636521
>>16636518
but trans absolutely is a set of behaviors, attitudes and affects
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:16:05 UTC No. 16636522
>>16636521
I'm not even the same anon, faggot.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:20:14 UTC No. 16636528
>>16636522
Neither am I retard
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:21:40 UTC No. 16636531
>>16636528
I automatically win if me agreeing with calling something 'filtered' has a trivial mechanism.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:22:31 UTC No. 16636533
>>16636509
>I am going to deflect into semantics rather than address an exponential portion of the population self-neutering. This belies my real concerns.
I think that's 90% honest at least?
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:22:47 UTC No. 16636536
>>16636531
But I also underneath did win if the filter post we read and able to simplify
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:29:34 UTC No. 16636558
>>16636533
>exponential
Wrong, don't care about the rest.
>graph of percentage CANNOT exceed 100% and will necessarily taper off
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:30:35 UTC No. 16636563
>>16636558
true of literally every situation described as exponential
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:30:36 UTC No. 16636564
>>16636536
I already have true dominion over simplicity, hence auto
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:31:37 UTC No. 16636567
>>16636363
>intersex
abused term. they're still male or female
>>16635803
number of US men who are actually women: 0_______________________________
>>16635824
kek
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:34:40 UTC No. 16636573
>>16636563
I don't know if 'every' would work, not gonna try to broadstroke grand calculus for this many kinds of margin configuration
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:39:24 UTC No. 16636582
>>16636573
I can't blame you, I was similarly autistic when people said covid was growing exponentially, but it's clear what anon meant
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:40:55 UTC No. 16636587
>>16636567
>they're still male or female
I was born with a vagina, penis, testicles, and ovaries. What am I?
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:41:33 UTC No. 16636590
>>16636502
Concession accepted
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:42:50 UTC No. 16636593
>>16636587
Someone lying to win an internet argument
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:44:39 UTC No. 16636598
>>16636593
Do your really want me to post a picture of my genitals here? I mean fucking really?
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:45:39 UTC No. 16636600
>>16636587
No, you weren't
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:48:35 UTC No. 16636608
>>16636600
You can literally google the condition. There are 60k people in the US like me whether you want to believe it or not.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:48:54 UTC No. 16636609
>>16636598
Yes, I’m afraid it’s the only surefire method of verification. And your tummy/butt as well, so that we can inspect for hormonal irregularities and the possible presence of internal sex organs.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:50:09 UTC No. 16636613
>>16636608
I am aware of the conditions, there is not one like you described
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:52:51 UTC No. 16636617
>>16635803
right
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:54:14 UTC No. 16636620
>>16636600
You just want a picture of their face for your physiognomy fetish, take it back to fucking >>>/soc/
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:54:32 UTC No. 16636621
>>16636598
Absolutely
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:54:48 UTC No. 16636622
>>16635803
It should be. Low quality males should be made into submissive boywives, with a good sprinkling of dommy mommies as well. Not to mention sexy cuntboy twinks.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:55:32 UTC No. 16636623
>>16636608
probabilistically that means you're waaaay more likely to be lying about having it
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:56:09 UTC No. 16636624
>>16636621
Well fuck. You both consent, it is for science.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:59:24 UTC No. 16636630
>>16636622
>Low quality males should be made into submissive boywives, with a good sprinkling of dommy mommies as well. Not to mention sexy cuntboy twinks
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:00:57 UTC No. 16636634
>>16636613
PMDS has all of it. I'm sure I just take birth control for the fun of it and not because my hormones have been driving me insane my entire life. Or the constant stomach cramps that use to happen every month until I did.
Also, just FYI, hormone therapy like that makes you completely fucking dead inside so you can't feel any emotions at all.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:05:29 UTC No. 16636637
>>16636634
if you really have PMDS then according to wiki you're male
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:13:47 UTC No. 16636642
>>16636573
>I don't know if 'every' would work
Considering the universe is finite, the other anon is correct.
You realize you're being retarded because fitting a function never implies it holds over all values, particularly values at ±∞
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:15:44 UTC No. 16636643
>>16636637
That's because it's defined differently by the people that wrote it. Going by phenotype, or typical binary notions of male or female bodies I'm neither male or female.
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it's a dog apparently.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:15:51 UTC No. 16636645
>>16636642
My answer is informed by the neutral validity of not assuming beyond the cosmic horizon.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:17:01 UTC No. 16636647
>>16636645
But the cosmic horizon still is a finite bubble of causality.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:17:50 UTC No. 16636649
>>16636643
Post bussy
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:19:13 UTC No. 16636653
>>16636647
Which means not assuming how infinity might function there.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:24:08 UTC No. 16636661
>>16636649
I mean if you honestly care my anatomy is completely fucked down there so yeah. Surgery was done, there's a lot of scar tissue. It's like a maze down there.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:28:28 UTC No. 16636668
>>16636653
It means there is no need to assume infinity at all.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:32:05 UTC No. 16636677
>>16635803
looks normal to me schizoid
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:33:05 UTC No. 16636681
>>16636668
Yes, there is. Not my fault if you chose retarded over actual reasoner.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:34:05 UTC No. 16636684
>>16635803
When your options are either pretend you like to get fucked in the asshole to get a job or go homeless and get fucked in the asshole for real, in that case many people will pick the first option.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:34:58 UTC No. 16636685
>>16636684
sounds like a rael woman
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:35:08 UTC No. 16636686
>>16636681
>Talking about a finite planet
>Assume infinity
You chose very retarded
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:39:19 UTC No. 16636692
>>16636634
too easy kek
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:40:08 UTC No. 16636695
>>16636686
Earth is least finite, you wanting everything to die feeds me brownie points.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:47:43 UTC No. 16636704
>>16636692
can you not read? It can be defined in multiple ways.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offic
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:49:53 UTC No. 16636709
>>16636332
>Rigorously define social contagion without stealing the definition for meme.
Why? Seems like his term is descriptive enough.
>tl;dr
I hope your definition of eugenics allows for softer enforcement (like through praise or shaming in your hedonistic death cult) that induces socially susceptible people to self remove from the gene pool.
Pretty sure they self id as trans, which is as subjective as it gets.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Apr 2025 22:50:24 UTC No. 16636711
>>16636704
You're male, dude. Your condition is unfortunate and I would never mock you for it, but don't let troon propaganda damage your mind. The "intersex" are the first victims of this fetish cult
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 00:44:57 UTC No. 16636872
>>16636711
>You're male, dude
I don't even dress like a girl but I've forgotten how many times guys have come up to me and started to talk to me. Or entering a room and someone says "hello ladies." or a million other things.
So yeah, I'm totally just whatever I am and I'm not even trying. I'm just neither.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 00:54:06 UTC No. 16636886
>>16636872
post vocaroo
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 01:08:42 UTC No. 16636903
>>16636598
It's penis inspection day. We all knew this meme, *ahem* SoCiAl CONtaGioN, was true 10+ years ago.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 02:26:49 UTC No. 16636931
>>16636872
If you aren't male, why are you on 4chan?
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 03:07:21 UTC No. 16636948
/sci/ - trannies and schizophrenia
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 03:37:26 UTC No. 16636965
>>16636948
4chan in general
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 03:58:42 UTC No. 16636973
And they used to say, "Why are you so obsessed with trans ppl? They only make up 0.5% of the population." Look how quickly they come up with a new excuse.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 04:10:39 UTC No. 16636976
>>16635803
Oh my god, it's almost as if people who had to hide who they were are able to finally express themselves
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 04:39:49 UTC No. 16636983
>>16636976
Nope. Just secular peeps
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 04:43:19 UTC No. 16636991
>>16636643
The presence or absence of the Y chromosome is binary. You are a eutherian and have a Y chromosome and testes, therefore male. With no functional ovaries (with the female gametes) you are unambiguously male. The sexual dimorphism (phenotype) is derived from the sex if everything is working correctly; it does not determine the sex.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 04:45:27 UTC No. 16636992
>>16636976
Surely that expression has nothing to do with the type of media, peer, and parental influence a child receives during their formative years
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 04:48:49 UTC No. 16636994
>>16636976
>had to hide who they were
I thought the pro-trans argument is that you need to "affirm" their delusions to reduce the harm of gender dysphoria, not that it's actually who they are. But of course, you're talking out of your ass.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 04:50:45 UTC No. 16636996
>>16635824
>left handed people
Increased by like 3 times in a whole century. Meanwhile trannies have increased by that much in just a few decades
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 06:32:20 UTC No. 16637014
>>16636516
>How so?
Identity isn't behavior, attitude, or affect. What's next? Race and religion are social contagions?
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 06:36:44 UTC No. 16637015
>>16636521
>but trans absolutely is a set of behaviors, attitudes and affects
No. Trans people have behaviors, attitudes, and affects. Just like everyone else. There isn't a claim or evidence that those have changed over time though. Someone identifying with an identity doesn't mean they're otherwise changing anything about their behavior, attitude, or affect. Trans people existed before the concept of transness was a thing just like cis people did before the concept of cisness was a thing. Hell, some cis people don't even identify as cis cause they think it's a slur.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 06:42:57 UTC No. 16637020
>>16637014
huh?
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 06:51:50 UTC No. 16637025
>>16635824
using your left hand to jerk it is a bit of a farce comparison to folks whom believe they must kill themselves if they dont amputate their cocks
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 06:56:03 UTC No. 16637028
stop throwing around the term social contagion and just say mass hysteria
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 07:41:36 UTC No. 16637053
>>16637020
I don't think I could be more clear. Identifying as trans has nothing to do with the given definition of social contagion because identity isn't mentioned in that definition. I don't care if it's woman, white, Christian, or juggalo, shit's not a social contagion by that definition.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 07:49:18 UTC No. 16637057
data shows this, data shows that, blah blah blah every single troon must also lay down and accept the festering number of people whom legitimately believe they are animals trapped in human bodies, they go by "therians" and compose about probably somewhere within the range of 5-10% of all furries and it is only growing. They just need their own Caitlyn Jenner national news catalyst and you won't hear the end of it. Every argument for the validation of troons can also apply in analogous ways to this specific sperg subculture
>they have untreatable "species dysphoria" (Not in the DSM yet but Gender Dysphoria originally wasn't either until 2013)
>therians were once poorly understood in medicine but here's some brand new politically charged "research" to show they exist
>letting therians act and dress as animals will improve their mental health and reduce suicide risk and it makes them happy, why should you care
>Hell, let's give them plastic surgery to live out their f̶e̶t̶i̶s̶h̶ identity to the truest extent
>therians have always existed throughout time, look at these historical fringe autists that prove our point, times are changing and now they are just more comfortable to be themselves
t. a furry who sees this shit firsthand
I have conversed with many troons about this concept before and 99% of the time they get defensive and reject the whole notion. You can find many reddit threads of them anxiously shooting down the idea in fear that it makes them look crazy in comparison, going nuh uh it's not the same, which I find surprising. They genuinely want to have their cake and eat it too, it must sting to have that sort of mirror held up. But that's anecdotal anyway
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 07:53:57 UTC No. 16637060
>>16637057
I thought it was called otherkin
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 07:54:33 UTC No. 16637062
>>16637060
its the zoomer rebrand
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 08:46:31 UTC No. 16637086
>>16637057
Why do you care about furries? Why should I care about furries? Why do you want me to care about furries?
You sound mentally ill. Try minding your own damn business.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 08:52:02 UTC No. 16637091
>>16637025
>folks whom believe they must kill themselves if they dont amputate their cocks
Given their suicide rate after the deed is done, they rather believe they must kill themselves AND amputate their cocks.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 10:23:59 UTC No. 16637138
>>16636422
It's pretty self explanatory. A contagion spread socially.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 13:45:00 UTC No. 16637242
>>16637086
Anon's right. What's the difference between believing I'm a woman and believing I'm a wolf?
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 14:11:28 UTC No. 16637255
>>16637242
>What's the difference between believing I'm a woman and believing I'm a wolf?
Again, why should I care what you believe you are?
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 14:22:27 UTC No. 16637261
>>16637255
Same reason why you "should" care about anything ever: none. Are you saying you agree it's basically the same situation?
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 14:31:40 UTC No. 16637268
>>16637261
>Are you saying you agree it's basically the same situation?
I never claimed either was the same situation. I simply pointed out that neither matters.
If I say I don't care equally about a dude running down the sidewalk carrying a watermelon and a dude running down the sidewalk carrying a cockatoo that wouldn't make those the same situation.
>Same reason why you "should" care about anything ever
So there isn't one? I don't care about most shit. You should try that.
Seriously, would you care if some dude was running down the sidewalk carrying a penny-farthing?
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 14:38:30 UTC No. 16637274
>>16637269
If it did, you'd be able to articulate that.
It's weird that you take it as a given that people should obsess over furries and trans people. Seek help.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 14:38:42 UTC No. 16637275
>>16637268
I legit don't care if someone is trans or otherkin, I just see them essentially the same situation. I assume you do as well since you can't give any reason they're different
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 14:46:54 UTC No. 16637280
>>16637275
>I assume you do as well since you can't give any reason they're different
Trans and otherkin aren't the same thing. Seems a given they're different. You wouldn't say a man and an otter are the same thing.
>I legit don't care if someone is trans or otherkin
Kay.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 15:13:59 UTC No. 16637292
>>16637269
>REEEEE AN ADULT WEARS A SKIRT LITERALLY FALL OF MUH WEST REEEEEEEE
#BasedRight
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 15:18:35 UTC No. 16637293
>>16637292
Degenerate retards need to be put down before they become the majority, otherwise it'll be a race to the bottom (and it has been for a while).
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 15:20:43 UTC No. 16637294
>>16637292
It's more complex than that and you know it. In short, there is a social contract to follow for civilized communities. Kids passively learn the rules of these contracts, even if they have difficulty articulating such rules even as adults. Violations of these rules can have deleterious impacts to social cohesion. Which is exactly what we're seeing today with the insulated online siloed information spheres people find themselves in. But you don't care. As long as you or someone else can wear a skirt, feel victimized while doing it, and then decree that society is the problem instead of their violations of social cohesion, then all is right in the world. I swear, the arguments in favor of these things sound like a they're coming from individuals who have the maturity of children.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 15:28:37 UTC No. 16637302
>>16637294
>Violations of these rules can have deleterious impacts to social cohesion
Being transphobic is a violation of the current rules for civilized communities. Please stop ruining social cohesion. Please and thank you.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 15:34:02 UTC No. 16637305
>>16637302
I just hope you realize, when this selection bottleneck we live in opens up, the people on the other side will not tolerate you. And since your kind only depends on external support and cannot reproduce on your own, you will be utterly wiped out.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 15:35:45 UTC No. 16637307
>>16637305
I just hope you realize that you refuse to live by the principles you espouse or recognize your own position in society. You're a bitter loser and a hypocrite.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 15:37:22 UTC No. 16637308
>>16637302
It's really no surprise to me that you don't understand the difference between a social contract and the violation of one.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 15:38:02 UTC No. 16637309
>>16637307
In just a number of generations society will have heternormative family values again. Because everyone else can't reproduce on their own. You are bound to lose.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 15:39:53 UTC No. 16637311
>>16637302
>>16637308
To add on: every single trans person (every single one of them) has grown up in an abusive household and has a horrible relationship to at least one family member (typically the one who caused the most abuse). It's not your fault. But I also won't absolve you of the responsibility you hold for destroying social cohesion.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 15:47:26 UTC No. 16637316
>>16637280
By that logic, there is no such thing as "trans" at all because transwomen and transmen are inherently different
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 15:55:59 UTC No. 16637331
>>16637309
That's unlikely since nobody wants kids now. Combination of capitalism and progressive ideology has really fucked us all. I don't see any way out of it.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 15:57:25 UTC No. 16637335
>>16637316
>By that logic, there is no such thing as "trans" at all because transwomen and transmen are inherently different
I don't think anyone would argue that trans women and trans men are inherently the same or that "trans" makes any sense as a concept in isolation. It's definitionally contextual. It's like "left of" means nothing absent more information.
Was this supposed to be a gotcha? Trans women are women. Trans men are men.
>>16637308
>>16637309
>>16637311
Bitter as fuck, lmao. Trans acceptance isn't going anywhere, m8. You lost. Get over it and stop violating the social contract. Or don't. I really don't care if you throw a tantrum. Lord knows it isn't gonna sway anyone to your cause.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 16:02:04 UTC No. 16637346
>>16637335
If this is bait, you're a master at it. Otherwise, you aren't doing your cause any good.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 16:02:12 UTC No. 16637347
>>16637331
>I don't see any way out of it
Paid family leave, socialized medicine, and state funded childcare? Basic fucking social policy that removes economic barriers for having and raising children?
>progressive ideology
Progressive ideology doesn't disincentivize having children. In fact it pushes for the aforementioned removal of economic barriers as well as the erosion of strict gender so you can have shit like stay at home dads without shame.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 16:02:22 UTC No. 16637348
>>16637302
>Being transphobic is a violation of the current rules for civilized communities
Which civilized communities are you talking about? Pretty countries like China can operate just fine by violating your so called " trans rights".
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 16:04:04 UTC No. 16637351
>>16637346
>you aren't doing your cause any good.
My cause is winning. Why would it need my help? Trans acceptance has skyrocketed over the past few decades.
You're the one that should be trying to look like less of a bitter, hypocritical shitbag trying to police a society that has evolved past you.
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 16:04:17 UTC No. 16637353
>>16637302
>Being transphobic is a violation of the current rules for civilized communities
Which civilized communities are you talking about? Pretty sure countries like China can operate just fine by violating your so called " trans rights".
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 16:05:07 UTC No. 16637355
>>16637348
I wouldn't call China civilized, but if you like their current societal rules, I encourage you to move there.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 16:06:53 UTC No. 16637359
>>16637331
Devout religious communities have above replacement fertility. It's the white atheists who have korea-tier TFR.
>>16637335
tick tock, you don't have much left
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 16:13:05 UTC No. 16637367
>>16637057
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sta
With that logic in-hand, this guy has to be the closest furfag equivalent to that Danish Girl troon-surgery-pioneer they made an Oscar bait movie about. God, you have no idea what I’d give to see people walking the streets looking like this, it would be so fucking funny you have no idea
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 16:24:23 UTC No. 16637400
>>16637359
>you don't have much left
Would you say there are more or less transphobes per capita now vs 40 years ago, vs 20 years ago, vs 10 years ago?
Hell, if you were winning, wouldn't we be seeing more trans people as a share of the population hiding in the closet nowadays? Isn't trying to frame it as a social contagion just cope for your side losing? Doesn't the OP make clear you don't have much left?
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 16:32:58 UTC No. 16637411
>>16637400
Support for gay marriage has already hit a plateau, with signs of a possible decline. All this before the selection bottleneck has even kicked into gear. People still have their bread and circuses and they're already souring on you. Imagine how it will look like on the other side. Well it will be completely normal, without you around.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 16:39:15 UTC No. 16637415
>>16637411
>Support for gay marriage has already hit a plateau,
Because we have gay marriage. Gays won. Also plateau *at what*? ~70% right?
>selection bottleneck
Gays have always existed. If a selection bottleneck were going to help you, you wouldn't have lost half the fucking 40% of the country in just a few decades.
Your entire social theory is based on the idea that the past doesn't fucking exist.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 16:40:42 UTC No. 16637417
>>16637415
>Your entire social theory is based on the idea that the past doesn't fucking exist.
On the contrary, it's based on the idea that the past is the future. You're the aberration.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 16:52:09 UTC No. 16637427
>>16637417
>the past is the future
The belief that the past is the future is a pretty good definition of cope.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Apr 2025 16:57:04 UTC No. 16637432
>>16637302
You can't simply relativize facts of life away such as mortality, reproduction, and the consequences of your actions. You'll learn this in due time the hard way.